[Biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11 For Grown-ups
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0917-02.htm Published on Friday, September 17, 2004 by CommonDreams.org Journalism Under Fire by Bill Moyers Address to the Society of Professional Journalists Saturday, September 11, 2004 New York City --- http://www.tompaine.com/articles/fahrenheit_911_for_grownups.php Fahrenheit 9/11 For Grown-ups Robert Jensen September 17, 2004 Fahrenheit 9/11 stirred up emotions about the war in Iraq, but Hijacking Catastrophe arms us with an understanding of how we got there. Moore avoided discussing the real reasons the Bush administration invaded Iraq; i nstead he made inferences about George W. Bush's allegiance to the Saudi royalty and desire to avenge his father. But Bush alone wasn't leading the charge to invade. Jensen writes that a new documentary lays clear the path to war and the media's role in selling it. Robert Jensen is a journalism professor at the University of Texas at Austin and the author of Citizens of the Empire: The Struggle to Claim Our Humanity from City Lights Books. He can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a former full-time journalist turned journalism professor. I continue to commit occasional acts of journalism, and I retain a deep affection for, and commitment to, the craft and its ideals. That's why it pains me to say this: The performance of the U.S. corporate commercial news media after 9/11 has been the most profound and dangerous failure of journalism in my lifetime. That's the bad news. The good news is that the void is being filled by other institutions, including the Media Education Foundation with its new documentary, Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear the Selling of American Empire. That performance of journalists in the run-up to the U.S. invasion of Iraq was so abysmal that the country's top two daily newspapers, the Washington Post and New York Times , eventually were forced to engage in a bit of self-criticism, albeit shallow and inadequate. The U.S. news media's willingness to serve as a largely uncritical conduit for the lies, half-truths and distortions the Bush administration used to create the pretext for war showed how easily journalists can become de facto agents of a state propaganda campaign, which in this case mobilized public support for an illegal war. But the lies that led to the Iraq war are only part of a bigger story, the most important story of the past three years: The Bush administration's manipulation of the tragedy of 9/11 to extend and intensify the longstanding U.S. project of empire building (and the complicity of most Democrats in that endeavor). No publication or network in the mainstream of U.S. journalism has offered an independent, critical analysis of that project. Only a few journalists, mostly on the margins, have even dared to take a crack at it. The best consistent work has been in the foreign press or the alternative media in the United States. This also has been the year of the political documentary, and Hijacking Catastrophe is the best film in this genre to date. (Full disclosure: I was one of the people interviewed for Hijacking Catastrophe, and I also have appeared in two other MEF films. I agreed to participate in these projects because, after years of using MEF videos in the classroom, I have come to respect the quality of the work and the integrity of its staff.) Until this year, MEF had focused primarily on media criticism; its videos examined the effect of mass media on U.S. politics and culture. MEF primarily took as its task the job of explaining the failures of journalists, not doing the work of journalists. With Hijacking Catastrophe, directors Sut Jhally and Jeremy Earp also take up that task, covering the tremendously important story of the current phase of the U.S. empire that journalists have let slip through their fingers. The film concentrates on two major topics: The neoconservative agenda for U.S. domination of the world, which was created long before 9/11, and the selling of that agenda to the U.S. public after 9/11. The first story goes back to the early 1990s and the end of the Cold War, when policy planners such as Paul Wolfowitz (current deputy secretary of defense) were devising a more aggressive foreign policy and military posture to allow the United States to capitalize on the collapse of the Soviet Union and to dominate the globe in ways that had not previously been possible. At the time, the plans were considered so extreme that the first Bush administration reined in these ideological fanatics; the U.S. empire could go forward, but not in such radical form. During the remainder of the 1990s, these neoconservative planners chafed at what they saw as an insufficiently aggressive approach to expansion of the empire in the Clinton administration. The Project for the New American Century, a neoconservative think tank, was created as a vehicle for promoting this ideology, which
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
The Cameo is indeed an art house movie theater.And as such its not too hard to
break an attendence record in a venue that seats only 162 people.
Rico
MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fahrenheit 9/11, a left-sided documentary that
bashes the Bush administration's war on terrorism,
wouldn't find much of an audience in a military town.
Or so they thought.
'Fahrenheit 9/11' sets record
By Matt Leclercq
2004-06-29
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=localStory=6429101
This has broken all of our past records, said Nasim Kuenzel,
an owner of the Cameo Art House Theatre. The movie that I thought
would make us hardly any money - I never thought it would break
all the records.
Both showings sold out Friday at the Cameo, the only theater in
Fayetteville to carry the Michael Moore film. A midnight showing
added at the last minute Friday brought in 60 more people.
Saturday and Sunday were just as busy, Kuenzel said, with nearly
1,000 tickets sold over the weekend. As many as 75 percent of
moviegoers were soldiers or military families, Kuenzel said.
Many were like Natalie Sorton. She is 25 and married to an
infantryman who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I want to see what my husband is fighting for, Sorton said
Monday before going into the theater with a friend, Kathy Norris.
Another military spouse had recommended the movie. While
Sorton described herself as a moderate Republican, she said
she gained respect for Moore after seeing his last documentary,
Bowling for Columbine.
In that film, Moore pestered corporations and celebrities to
take responsibility for gun violence. Sorton said she wanted
to see Moore be equally pestering to politicians who make
decisions about war.
I'm going because from what I heard about ('Fahrenheit 9/11'),
it fills in a lot of blanks, a lot of questions we've had about
the Bush administration, Sorton said.
The documentary assails President Bush's decisions surrounding
the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Moore attempts to link the
Bush family with Saudi Arabia and blame business interests as the
reason for invading Iraq. Fahrenheit 9/11 includes frank comments
from soldiers in Iraq and emotional interviews with families who
lost children in the fighting.
Almost all the crowds at the Cameo have applauded the film at
the end, with some people giving standing ovations, Kuenzel said.
Many have tears in their eyes as they leave the theater.
I think it's going to open my eyes a little, and that worries me,
Sorton said before taking her seat.
Lea Barnes, a Republican, seemed giddy as she and a friend bought
tickets Monday.
I'm not pleased at all about the way things are going with the war,
Barnes said. I trust Michael Moore. He can be out there a bit, but
he's for the common man.
Negative reactions have been few, Kuenzel said. The theater received
three calls and two letters in opposition of carrying the film, she
said. No one has protested, though some people handed out anti-war
fliers on the street Friday evening.
Nationwide ticket sales totaling $23.9 million launched the film to
the No. 1 spot over the weekend, a record for a documentary.
Twelve other theaters in North Carolina are carrying Fahrenheit 9/11,
according to the film's Web site.
Other theaters
The Varsity Theatre in Chapel Hill also sold out over the weekend,
with some patrons from the Fayetteville area, said owner Mary Jo
Stone. The publicity surrounding Disney's refusal to distribute
the film because of its political content helped ignite sales.
I think people are interested in perhaps getting a different
perspective than what they see in the news all the time, Stone said.
Since the Cameo opened in 2000, the only other movies that
approached the sales figures for Fahrenheit 9/11 were
My Big Fat Greek Wedding and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
Other theaters across the country are expected to start showing
the film in the next few weeks.
After Monday's showing, Sorton emerged with a grim face.
She said she plans to buy the film on DVD and give it to
everyone she knows.
I'm disgusted, she said. Disgusted.
The film changed her opinions on the war in Iraq by convincing
her that oil and corporate interests were behind decision-making,
she said. Worries over whether Moore would vilify soldiers were unfounded.
I don't think they portrayed them as bad, she said. I don't
think it portrayed them as not doing their jobs. It showed them
doing what they're told.
All this movie did was open my eyes a little more to what's
really going on, she said. I think this is definitely going
to have an impact on the election. I'm glad I'm a voter.
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A British General's View of Fahrenheit 9/11 General Sir Michael Rose, Former Commander of the UN Protection Force in Bosnia DAILY MAIL (London) / July 1, 2004 http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/mikeinthenews/index.php?id=47 I suspect many soldiers serving in Iraq today will find Michael Moore's film intensely irritating. This is because for much of the film he allows his antiwar, anti-Bush and anti-big business stance to obscure the important debate: whether President George W. Bush led his country - and by default the UK - into war in Iraq on a lie and whether subsequently, in trying to impose justice, freedom and democracy on the Iraqi people by force, the Americans became so violent and brutal themselves that they lost the moral high ground for ever. Nevertheless, Moore has mounted a powerful protest against the Bush administration, in which he uses all the tricks of the skilled polemicist - ridicule, conspiracy theory and sensationalism. He shows terrible images of dead and dying civilians and soldiers in Iraq. He interviews U.S. soldiers both in Iraq and in hospital in America who question why they went to Iraq 'to kill innocent civilians', and he intrudes closely on the grief of an American mother who lost her son. I believe that this film will utterly destroy any residual confidence that the American people might have in the credentials of George W. Bush as a decisive war leader. For a full five minutes, Moore cruelly dwells on Bush's vacuous, tortured face in close-up immediately after he had been told about the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. The message is clear. Here is no Roosevelt, Churchill or Thatcher, but a deeply inadequate man whose mind is frozen with indecision and fear. It is a look I know well - if he had been a subordinate commander in battle I would have immediately relieved him of his command. What emerges from this film is that America is unlikely ever to attempt such a disastrous military adventure again. The trust of many of the American people in their leadership is destroyed and the all-volunteer Army in Iraq has run out of steam. It is now heavily dependent on the reservists who are taking much of the strain of operations in Iraq. Many of these young people only joined the army to obtain funding for their university education. They never expected to be sent overseas for such a prolonged period of time, and - if Moore's film is a true reflection of American opinion - they will not allow themselves to be so badly misled again. Looking beyond Moore's sensationalism, I think that his underlying message is nonetheless valid. The war in Iraq was immoral and it has caused some Americans to behave in an immoral way themselves. Meanwhile, the wider war on terror is being lost. Fact or fiction, everyone should see this film. I, for one, support Moore's protest. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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The [U.S.] Army and Air Force Exchange Service, which books films to be shown on military bases around the world, has contacted Fahrenheitâs distributor to book the film, TIME reports. http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,660927,00.html Moore unfriendly fire bombs Bush Leigh Paatsch Review [Australia] 03jul04 http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/printpage/0,5481,10023286,00.html IN just seven days, Michael Moore's controversial Fahrenheit 9/11 has graduated from the most talked-about film in America to the most widely seen. The independently distributed documentary yesterday completed its first week of release as the No. 1 film at the US box-office. Fahrenheit 9/11 has grossed $50.5 million, double what Moore's Bowling for Columbine took in total. By the time Fahrenheit 9/11 premieres in Melbourne in mid-July, Moore's provocative attack on the Administration of US President George W. Bush will be nearing its peak of influence as a worldwide political and pop-cultural phenomenon. snip Insightful, incendiary and sometimes irrational, Fahrenheit 9/11 is a current-affairs cocktail that should be tasted (if not entirely swallowed) by anyone concerned by the bitter flavour of global politics. FAHRENHEIT 9/11 opens July 29. Sneak previews July 15-18 and 23-25. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Filled with probing questions and disturbing footage, Fahrenheit 9/11 covers territory and accusations that may be familiar to many but does a fascinating job of stitching them all together into a critical mass and exposing the profound failure of democracy in America. The Democrats are seen to be irrelevant as a force of opposition. The media is widely partisan. The public is ill-informed and gullible. The politicians are cynical and sly. One member of the House of Representatives calmly informs Moore that nobody ever reads the bills that they pass and he's ridiculously naive to believe that they ever could. There are moments that take the breath away. Deadeye Mike bowling for Bush FILM REVIEW Allan Hunter FAHRENHEIT 9/11 Director: Michael Moore MUCH more than a movie, Fahrenheit 9/11 has already become the documentary equivalent of The Passion of the Christ. Eagerly awaited, much discussed, trailing clouds of glory and controversy from its Cannes Palme D'Or win, it is a cultural phenomenon in its own right. No longer just preaching to the converted, it has achieved the kind of reputation that means it has to be seen regardless of your political affiliation or your feelings on the subject of its creator, people's champion Michael Moore. CONTINUED http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/thereview.cfm?id=763252004 --- End forwarded message ---
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--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fahrenheit 9/11 Moore vs Bush FILMS WORTH WATCHING by Robert Alstead They should make a film about Michael Moore's battle to get his latest documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 distributed in the States. What is it about the subject matter that caused financial backers like Mel Gibson's Icon Productions to get cold feet? Why did Disney want to block its release? Even if you don't agree with his politics or his documentary style, Michael Moore is a highly bankable, Oscar-winning filmmaker. His attack on America's gun crime epidemic, Bowling for Columbine, was the most profitable documentary in filmmaking history. Even before its nationwide release, Fahrenheit 9/11 promised to better that, having scooped the top film award at the Cannes film festival in May, received standing ovations at its premieres and impressive reviews from around the world, including from publications such as The Washington Post and New York Times. Have film distributors and theatre owners, who balked at releasing the film, ceased to be interested in the green stuff? Hardly. Moore's claim that distributors and theatre owners bowed to Republican pressure to block the film sounds perfectly plausible. See Fahrenheit 9/11 and you begin to realize why, as Moore has suggested, the White House wants to stop people in the US from seeing this film so badly in the run up to the presidential election. Moore's two-hour op-ed has the traits of his other films. It is an opinionated and passionate argument full of gut-wrenching emotion, rancor and laugh-out-loud comedy. Yes, there are occasions when you feel that the edits are steering you with a heavy hand in a certain direction, but Michael Moore is the first to admit that he is a partisan filmmaker. Love him or hate him, you have a pretty good idea what you will get in a Michael Moore movie. CONTINUED http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0407156/fww.shtml --- End forwarded message ---
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--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VCS Gives Fahrenheit 9/11 a Five Star Rating Veterans for Common Sense http://www.michaelmoore.com Posted 6/25/2004 Veterans for Common Sense presents Michael Moore and his film crew and staff with a five star review for his superb film. The facts Moore presents are compelling and accurate. Simply put, Moore connects the dots where the mainstream press fails. For veterans, the most important part of Fahrenheit 9/11 comes at the very end, when Moore dedicates his efforts to the 851 U.S. service members who have so far fallen in Bush's reckless war. As a reminder to our members, supporters, and web site visitors, we are posting our letter delivered to Bush before the invasion, signed by 1,000 war veterans, where we strongly questioned Bush's reasons for his war. Bush never responded. The following letter was signed by 1,000 war veterans and given to the President on March 10, 2003. March 10, 2003 The Honorable George W. Bush President of the United States of America 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500 Dear Mr. President: CONTINUED http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/newsArticle.asp?id=1772 --- End forwarded message ---
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
Sunday, July 4th, 2004 My First Wild Week with Fahrenheit 9/11... By Michael Moore http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-07-04 Friends, Where do I begin? This past week has knocked me for a loop. Fahrenheit 9/11, the #1 movie in the country, the largest grossing documentary ever. My head is spinning. Didn't we just lose our distributor 8 weeks ago? Did Karl Rove really fail to stop this? Is Bush packing? Each day this week I was given a new piece of information from the press that covers Hollywood, and I barely had time to recover from the last tidbit before the next one smacked me upside the head: ** More people saw Fahrenheit 9/11 in one weekend than all the people who saw Bowling for Columbine in 9 months. ** Fahrenheit 9/11 broke Rocky III's record for the biggest box office opening weekend ever for any film that opened in less than a thousand theaters. ** Fahrenheit 9/11 beat the opening weekend of Return of the Jedi. ** Fahrenheit 9/11 instantly went to #2 on the all-time list for largest per-theater average ever for a film that opened in wide-release. How can I ever thank all of you who went to see it? These records are mind-blowing. They have sent shock waves through Hollywood - and, more importantly, through the White House. But it didn't just stop there. The response to the movie then went into the Twilight Zone. Surfing through the dial I landed on the Fox broadcasting network which was airing the NASCAR race live last Sunday to an audience of millions of Americans -- and suddenly the announcers were talking about how NASCAR champ Dale Earnhardt, Jr. took his crew to see Fahrenheit 9/11 the night before. FOX sportscaster Chris Myers delivered Earnhardt's review straight out of his mouth and into the heartland of America: He said hey, it'll be a good bonding experience no matter what your political belief. It's a good thing as an American to go see. Whoa! NASCAR fans - you can't go deeper into George Bush territory than that! White House moving vans - START YOUR ENGINES! Then there was Roger Friedman from the Fox News Channel giving our film an absolutely glowing review, calling it a really brilliant piece of work, and a film that members of all political parties should see without fail. Richard Goldstein of the Village Voice surmised that Bush is already considered a goner so Rupert Murdoch might be starting to curry favor with the new administration. I don't know about that, but I've never heard a decent word toward me from Fox. So, after I was revived, I wondered if a love note to me from Sean Hannity was next. How about Letterman's Top Ten List: Top Ten George W. Bush Complaints About Fahrenheit 9/11: 10. That actor who played the President was totally unconvincing 9. It oversimplified the way I stole the election 8. Too many of them fancy college-boy words 7. If Michael Moore had waited a few months, he could have included the part where I get him deported 6. Didn't have one of them hilarious monkeys who smoke cigarettes and gives people the finger 5. Of all Michael Moore's accusations, only 97% are true 4. Not sure - - I passed out after a piece of popcorn lodged in my windpipe 3. Where the hell was Spider-man? 2. Couldn't hear most of the movie over Cheney's foul mouth 1. I thought this was supposed to be about dodgeball But it was the reactions and reports we received from theaters around the country that really sent me over the edge. One theatre manager after another phoned in to say that the movie was getting standing ovations as the credits rolled - in places like Greensboro, NC and Oklahoma City -- and that they were having a hard time clearing the theater afterwards because people were either too stunned or they wanted to sit and talk to their neighbors about what they had just seen. In Trumbull, CT, one woman got up on her seat after the movie and shouted Let's go have a meeting! A man in San Francisco took his shoe off and threw it at the screen when Bush appeared at the end. Ladies' church groups in Tulsa were going to see it, and weeping afterwards. It was this last group that gave lie to all the yakking pundits who, before the movie opened, declared that only the hard-core choir would go to see Fahrenheit 9/11. They couldn't have been more wrong. Theaters in the Deep South and the Midwest set house records for any film they'd ever shown. Yes, it even sold out in Peoria. And Lubbock, Texas. And Anchorage, Alaska! Newspaper after newspaper wrote stories in tones of breathless disbelief about people who called themselves Independents and Republicans walking out of the movie theater shaken and in tears, proclaiming that they could not, in good conscience, vote for George W. Bush. The New York Times wrote of a conservative Republican woman in her 20s in Pensacola, Florida who cried through the film, and told the
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
Dissent, not censorship, is our heritage. Let's remember that this Independence Day. Anti-Bush film speaks for Kansans Sun, Jul. 04, 2004 http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/local/9076425.htm Scanning the cable news channels at home last week after watching Fahrenheit 9/11, a cinematic commentary about President Bush, Bush's ties to the oilindustry and our nation's involvement in Iraq, I found myself thinking about Toni Smith. It has been more than a year since the women's college basketball player repelled and rallied people last year by turning away from the flag before her team's games, in protest of the war in Iraq. I thought about Toni because Fahrenheit's writer, producer and director, Michael Moore, was getting the Toni Smith treatment from the usual suspects on the cable news networks that night, and that treatment contrasted sharply with the standing ovations the movie received. People who disagreed with Toni wanted to shut her up. This is something we can see now in the response to Moore's film, an un-American turn if there ever was one. Moore has been called a traitor by some, subversive and dangerous by others and a pathological liar by still more. There's even a move now to pull Moore's movie trailers because the ads may violate presidential campaign advertising laws. Almost everyone who dislikes the movie talks at length about its factual errors, and I saw a few myself. The scene where Bush asks world leaders to help fight terrorism before turning to tee off on a golf ball seemed a little unfair. Had he refused to comment, he'd have been branded as aloof and out of touch. And suggesting that Bush takes foreign policy directives from the Saudis ignores the fact that he refused a large check from a Saudi official after Sept. 11, insulting the Saudi royals. Bush also pressed our nation forward into wars in Afghanistan and Iraq to which the Saudis strongly objected. But critics omit the movie's poignant and undisputed truths about the war -- the large number of innocent Iraqi civilians maimed, terrorized and killed. No one talks about the way the haves and have-mores that Bush so blithely refers to as his base in the movie have closed factories and outsourced jobs and left young people with military service as virtually their only option for survival. None of those critics mention the most penetrating line in the movie, which said in substance that the people our society cruelly forces into the margins always seem to step forward first to defend our country and that all that they ask is to not be sent into harm's way without good reason. No one wants to talk about a grieving mother's pain multiplied over the more than 800 mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers and children who've lost loved ones in this war where no weapons of mass destruction have been found. No one wants to talk about that. Instead, they want to stop movie trailers, prevent people from going to see it and discredit the man who made it. People such as Toni and Moore speak for people here in conservative Kansas. People who, for whatever reason, don't or can't speak out. I heard cheers and applause in that Northrock theater, and I can't remember ever hearing cheers and applause following a movie. Those were people who wanted desperately to be heard. If our founders had intended for people to be censored and intimidated the way people have attempted to censor and intimidate Toni and Moore, they wouldn't have created a document called the Constitution that allows for freedom of expression. Dissent, not censorship, is our heritage. Let's remember that this Independence Day. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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'Fahrenheit 9/11' prompts clean, righteous anger Sun, Jul. 04, 2004 http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/americannews/news/opinion/9079136.htm Fahrenheit 9/11 made me angrier than any movie I've ever seen. It was a good anger, hard, clean and righteous, and I enjoyed it so much that I went back three days later to experience it again. Took two of my sons and two of their friends so they could become angry, too. It's not that I was unaware the movie is less documentary than propaganda, one-sided and proud of it. It's not that I buy its conspiracy theories tying the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq to Bush cronies and their thirst for oil. It is, rather, that the movie brings us face to face with things we have largely failed to appreciate these last months, things essential and disturbing about the president, his people and his war. Things like human cost, as in Lila Lipscomb, an erstwhile proud military mother who is literally bent double by grief after losing her son to a war whose righteousness she had not thought to question. Things like human greed, as in a gathering of military contractors who are barely able to contain their glee as they calculate the profit from this war. Things like human hubris, as in George W. Bush himself. He brags in an old interview about people wanting to do business with him because he can provide access to his father the president and you are appalled by his fratboy arrogance. He makes vague allusion to ''things'' he and his aides will be working on, and you sense he hasn't a clue what they are. He squints and smirks and stumbles back and forth over his own tongue, and you have this fantasy that if you could peer into his brain, you'd find a hamster running hard on a squeaky wheel. Then there's the footage from that morning in a Florida classroom when an aide whispers to him that the nation has come under attack. For seven agonizing minutes he just sits there, his expression clearly that of a man who has not a clue. You want him to stand up, demand information, give an order, be the ''president.'' Instead, he sits. The White House has said Bush was seeking to project an air of calm. What he projects instead is an air of utter incompetence. Some people will call that ''Bush bashing,'' of course. They will cluck piously about the need to respect the president. These would be the same people who kept accusing the previous president of drug dealing and murder. It strikes me that their anger toward him probably felt hard, clean and righteous, too. The realization is sobering. It's the thing that finally stops me in my tracks. After all, if smugness was one of liberalism's most glaring flaws from the 1960s to the doorstep of the Reagan revolution, one of the least attractive characteristics of conservatism from that era forward has been its perpetual anger. Meaning its capacity to feel put upon, to work itself into a froth of righteous indignation, demonizing the opposition such that ''liberal'' becomes not a competing political philosophy but a curse word. Nowadays, that kind of anger seems to be working its way from right to left. Witness the recent spate of harshly anti-conservative books, radio programs and now, Michael Moore's movie. Maybe we shouldn't be surprised. After all, there's something seductive about anger, something attractive in its minimalist simplicity. No thought, no reasoning, just a strident declaration. ''I'm right, and you're evil.'' The political left once prided itself on being better than that, on reading between the lines, comprehending nuance and illuminating areas of gray. And now? Well, in the words of the old song, there's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear. I find myself wondering if we will not all become self-righteous and extreme now, pulling away from a center that no longer holds. And if so, who will be left to seek common ground for the common good? ''Fahrenheit'' made me angry. It scares me how easily that happened. And how good it feels. Leonard Pitts Jr., winner of the 2004 Pulitzer Prize for commentary, is a columnist for the Miami Herald, 1 Herald Plaza, Miami, Fla. 33132. Readers may write to him via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or by calling toll-free at 1-888-251-4407. His columns appear most Sundays and Wednesdays in the American News. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit
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Fahrenheit 9/11, a left-sided documentary that
bashes the Bush administration's war on terrorism,
wouldn't find much of an audience in a military town.
Or so they thought.
'Fahrenheit 9/11' sets record
By Matt Leclercq
2004-06-29
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=localStory=6429101
This has broken all of our past records, said Nasim Kuenzel,
an owner of the Cameo Art House Theatre. The movie that I thought
would make us hardly any money - I never thought it would break
all the records.
Both showings sold out Friday at the Cameo, the only theater in
Fayetteville to carry the Michael Moore film. A midnight showing
added at the last minute Friday brought in 60 more people.
Saturday and Sunday were just as busy, Kuenzel said, with nearly
1,000 tickets sold over the weekend. As many as 75 percent of
moviegoers were soldiers or military families, Kuenzel said.
Many were like Natalie Sorton. She is 25 and married to an
infantryman who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I want to see what my husband is fighting for, Sorton said
Monday before going into the theater with a friend, Kathy Norris.
Another military spouse had recommended the movie. While
Sorton described herself as a moderate Republican, she said
she gained respect for Moore after seeing his last documentary,
Bowling for Columbine.
In that film, Moore pestered corporations and celebrities to
take responsibility for gun violence. Sorton said she wanted
to see Moore be equally pestering to politicians who make
decisions about war.
I'm going because from what I heard about ('Fahrenheit 9/11'),
it fills in a lot of blanks, a lot of questions we've had about
the Bush administration, Sorton said.
The documentary assails President Bush's decisions surrounding
the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Moore attempts to link the
Bush family with Saudi Arabia and blame business interests as the
reason for invading Iraq. Fahrenheit 9/11 includes frank comments
from soldiers in Iraq and emotional interviews with families who
lost children in the fighting.
Almost all the crowds at the Cameo have applauded the film at
the end, with some people giving standing ovations, Kuenzel said.
Many have tears in their eyes as they leave the theater.
I think it's going to open my eyes a little, and that worries me,
Sorton said before taking her seat.
Lea Barnes, a Republican, seemed giddy as she and a friend bought
tickets Monday.
I'm not pleased at all about the way things are going with the war,
Barnes said. I trust Michael Moore. He can be out there a bit, but
he's for the common man.
Negative reactions have been few, Kuenzel said. The theater received
three calls and two letters in opposition of carrying the film, she
said. No one has protested, though some people handed out anti-war
fliers on the street Friday evening.
Nationwide ticket sales totaling $23.9 million launched the film to
the No. 1 spot over the weekend, a record for a documentary.
Twelve other theaters in North Carolina are carrying Fahrenheit 9/11,
according to the film's Web site.
Other theaters
The Varsity Theatre in Chapel Hill also sold out over the weekend,
with some patrons from the Fayetteville area, said owner Mary Jo
Stone. The publicity surrounding Disney's refusal to distribute
the film because of its political content helped ignite sales.
I think people are interested in perhaps getting a different
perspective than what they see in the news all the time, Stone said.
Since the Cameo opened in 2000, the only other movies that
approached the sales figures for Fahrenheit 9/11 were
My Big Fat Greek Wedding and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
Other theaters across the country are expected to start showing
the film in the next few weeks.
After Monday's showing, Sorton emerged with a grim face.
She said she plans to buy the film on DVD and give it to
everyone she knows.
I'm disgusted, she said. Disgusted.
The film changed her opinions on the war in Iraq by convincing
her that oil and corporate interests were behind decision-making,
she said. Worries over whether Moore would vilify soldiers were unfounded.
I don't think they portrayed them as bad, she said. I don't
think it portrayed them as not doing their jobs. It showed them
doing what they're told.
All this movie did was open my eyes a little more to what's
really going on, she said. I think this is definitely going
to have an impact on the election. I'm glad I'm a voter.
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Michael Moore's daring film By Bill Press July 2, 2004 http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39241 If you haven't yet seen it, what are you waiting for? Check your local listings, round up the family and head out to the movies. Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 is a must-see film for all Americans: Kerry supporters, undecided voters and even devoted Bushies ö so they can see just how inept a president their man really is. Is it perfect? No. Sometimes, Michael Moore goes over the top. He can't resist the occasional cheap shot, or forcing himself front and center ö as in the scene where he tries to convince members of Congress to sign up their own kids for the war in Iraq. Funny stuff, but Moore's sidewalk shenanigans get in the way of making a serious point. Do I believe every accusation he makes against Bush? No. Even though a natural gas pipeline from the Caspian Sea across Afghanistan has long been talked about, I don't buy Moore's theory that it was the reason we went to war in Afghanistan. That war, which I supported, was motivated by the Taliban's refusal to turn over Osama bin Laden. Predictably, Bush apologists are trying to silence or smear Michael Moore. Disney refused to distribute the film. White House spokesperson Dan Bartlett said the movie was so outrageously false it's not even worth comment. A group called Citizens United is now suing to block TV commercials for the movie. And stiff shirt Bill O'Reilly compares Moore to Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels. Nonsense. Moore's no propagandist; he's a protagonist. He doesn't mask his strong differences with President Bush, especially over his ties to Saudi Arabia and his pursuit of the war in Iraq. Moore has a clear message, which he pounds home with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer. Yet, despite its flaws, Fahrenheit 9/11 is a searing, blockbuster documentary that will make you laugh, cry, shake your head in disbelief ö and then run out to try and save your country. What makes Fahrenheit 9/11 so effective is that Moore dares to go where the networks fear to tread. He brings to the big screen footage we've never before seen on the little screen. In gruesome detail, for example, he shows video of Iraqi civilians who are victims of U.S. bombs, including one little boy with a badly mutilated arm. He records the agony of families whose homes were destroyed. Their grief belies the phony assurances of Donald Rumsfeld that our precision-driven weapons, aimed with humanity, never miss their target. Moore also shows President Bush at a Florida elementary school on the morning of September 11. On his way into the school, he's informed that a plane has struck the World Trade Center. A few minutes later, while Bush is sitting in front of school children, Chief of Staff Andy Card tells him the second tower has been struck. Yet Bush continues to sit there for seven long minutes, reading My Pet Goat ö while America, in Card's chilling words, is under attack. What was Bush thinking? What was he waiting for? Did he need Dick Cheney to tell him what to do? And why haven't we seen this video before? Finally, in the film's most poignant moments, Moore introduces us to a woman from Flint, Mich., whose son was killed in Iraq. Lila Lipscomb is part of an extended, patriotic American family. Her grandfather, father, uncles, brothers and daughter all served in the military ö and she's proud of them. But she believes her son died fighting an unnecessary war in Iraq. Speaking from the heart, in words more powerful than any political candidate or anti-war activist could ever invent, Lipscomb regrets our involvement in a war against a country that had never attacked America, and had never threatened to attack America. And she lays the blame squarely at the feet of George W. Bush. Question: In all the interviews of families of American troops we've seen on national television, why haven't we met one family member critical of the war in Iraq? Is Michael Moore the only one in the whole media world who could discover Lila Lipscomb or others like her? Or are networks afraid of White House retaliation? Michael Moore has done this nation a great service. He has already produced the most successful documentary ever at the box office. If crowds continue to pour in, he may also have produced the first documentary ever to decide an election. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
Okay. But that's last week.
The truth comes out this weekend. Three days. A national holiday. The choir
has digested.
What will the rest of the world do?
Surely will be one of those fractional thermometers of the global heartbeat.
Pray for peaceIf they don't capitulate?.Wrap 'em in duct tape
Todd Swearingen
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Fahrenheit 9/11, a left-sided documentary that
bashes the Bush administration's war on terrorism,
wouldn't find much of an audience in a military town.
Or so they thought.
'Fahrenheit 9/11' sets record
By Matt Leclercq
2004-06-29
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=localStory=6429101
This has broken all of our past records, said Nasim Kuenzel,
an owner of the Cameo Art House Theatre. The movie that I thought
would make us hardly any money - I never thought it would break
all the records.
Both showings sold out Friday at the Cameo, the only theater in
Fayetteville to carry the Michael Moore film. A midnight showing
added at the last minute Friday brought in 60 more people.
Saturday and Sunday were just as busy, Kuenzel said, with nearly
1,000 tickets sold over the weekend. As many as 75 percent of
moviegoers were soldiers or military families, Kuenzel said.
Many were like Natalie Sorton. She is 25 and married to an
infantryman who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I want to see what my husband is fighting for, Sorton said
Monday before going into the theater with a friend, Kathy Norris.
Another military spouse had recommended the movie. While
Sorton described herself as a moderate Republican, she said
she gained respect for Moore after seeing his last documentary,
Bowling for Columbine.
In that film, Moore pestered corporations and celebrities to
take responsibility for gun violence. Sorton said she wanted
to see Moore be equally pestering to politicians who make
decisions about war.
I'm going because from what I heard about ('Fahrenheit 9/11'),
it fills in a lot of blanks, a lot of questions we've had about
the Bush administration, Sorton said.
The documentary assails President Bush's decisions surrounding
the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Moore attempts to link the
Bush family with Saudi Arabia and blame business interests as the
reason for invading Iraq. Fahrenheit 9/11 includes frank comments
from soldiers in Iraq and emotional interviews with families who
lost children in the fighting.
Almost all the crowds at the Cameo have applauded the film at
the end, with some people giving standing ovations, Kuenzel said.
Many have tears in their eyes as they leave the theater.
I think it's going to open my eyes a little, and that worries me,
Sorton said before taking her seat.
Lea Barnes, a Republican, seemed giddy as she and a friend bought
tickets Monday.
I'm not pleased at all about the way things are going with the war,
Barnes said. I trust Michael Moore. He can be out there a bit, but
he's for the common man.
Negative reactions have been few, Kuenzel said. The theater received
three calls and two letters in opposition of carrying the film, she
said. No one has protested, though some people handed out anti-war
fliers on the street Friday evening.
Nationwide ticket sales totaling $23.9 million launched the film to
the No. 1 spot over the weekend, a record for a documentary.
Twelve other theaters in North Carolina are carrying Fahrenheit 9/11,
according to the film's Web site.
Other theaters
The Varsity Theatre in Chapel Hill also sold out over the weekend,
with some patrons from the Fayetteville area, said owner Mary Jo
Stone. The publicity surrounding Disney's refusal to distribute
the film because of its political content helped ignite sales.
I think people are interested in perhaps getting a different
perspective than what they see in the news all the time, Stone said.
Since the Cameo opened in 2000, the only other movies that
approached the sales figures for Fahrenheit 9/11 were
My Big Fat Greek Wedding and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
Other theaters across the country are expected to start showing
the film in the next few weeks.
After Monday's showing, Sorton emerged with a grim face.
She said she plans to buy the film on DVD and give it to
everyone she knows.
I'm disgusted, she said. Disgusted.
The film changed her opinions on the war in Iraq by convincing
her that oil and corporate interests were behind decision-making,
she said. Worries over whether Moore would vilify soldiers were
unfounded.
I don't think they portrayed them as bad, she said. I don't
think it portrayed them as not doing their jobs. It showed them
doing what they're told.
All this movie did was open my eyes a little more to what's
really going
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
$coreboard for Fahrenheit 9/11 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=fahrenheit911.htm 02.Juli 2004 Moore's Public Service Despite its flaws, Fahrenheit 9/11 tells essential truths about leaders that should have been told by the media. By PAUL KRUGMAN http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,306856,00.html Since it opened, Fahrenheit 9/11 has been a hit in both blue and red America, even at theaters close to military bases. Last Saturday, Dale Earnhardt Jr. took his Nascar crew to see it. The film's appeal to working-class Americans, who are the true victims of George Bush's policies, should give pause to its critics, especially the nervous liberals rushing to disassociate themselves from Michael Moore. There has been much tut-tutting by pundits who complain that the movie, though it has yet to be caught in any major factual errors, uses association and innuendo to create false impressions. Many of these same pundits consider it bad form to make a big fuss about the Bush administration's use of association and innuendo to link the Iraq war to 9/11. Why hold a self-proclaimed polemicist to a higher standard than you hold the president of the United States? And for all its flaws, Fahrenheit 9/11 performs an essential service. It would be a better movie if it didn't promote a few unproven conspiracy theories, but those theories aren't the reason why millions of people who aren't die-hard Bush-haters are flocking to see it. These people see the film to learn true stories they should have heard elsewhere, but didn't. Mr. Moore may not be considered respectable, but his film is a hit because the respectable media haven't been doing their job. For example, audiences are shocked by the now-famous seven minutes, when George Bush knew the nation was under attack but continued reading My Pet Goat with a group of children. Nobody had told them that the tales of Mr. Bush's decisiveness and bravery on that day were pure fiction. Or consider the Bush family's ties to the Saudis. The film suggests that Mr. Bush and his good friend Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the ambassador known to the family as Bandar Bush, have tried to cover up the extent of Saudi involvement in terrorism. This may or may not be true. But what shocks people, I think, is the fact that nobody told them about this side of Mr. Bush's life. Mr. Bush's carefully constructed persona is that of an all-American regular guy - not like his suspiciously cosmopolitan opponent, with his patrician air. The news media have cheerfully gone along with the pretense. How many stories have you seen contrasting John Kerry's upper-crusty vacation on Nantucket with Mr. Bush's down-home time at the ranch? But the reality, revealed by Mr. Moore, is that Mr. Bush has always lived in a bubble of privilege. And his family, far from consisting of regular folks with deep roots in the heartland, is deeply enmeshed, financially and personally, with foreign elites - with the Saudis in particular. Mr. Moore's greatest strength is a real empathy with working-class Americans that most journalists lack. Having stripped away Mr. Bush's common-man mask, he uses his film to make the case, in a way statistics never could, that Mr. Bush's policies favor a narrow elite at the expense of less fortunate Americans - sometimes, indeed, at the cost of their lives. In a nation where the affluent rarely serve in the military, Mr. Moore follows Marine recruiters as they trawl the malls of depressed communities, where enlistment is the only way for young men and women to escape poverty. He shows corporate executives at a lavish conference on Iraq, nibbling on canapes and exulting over the profit opportunities, then shows the terrible price paid by the soldiers creating those opportunities. The movie's moral core is a harrowing portrait of a grieving mother who encouraged her children to join the military because it was the only way they could pay for their education, and who lost her son in a war whose justification she no longer understands. Viewers may come away from Mr. Moore's movie believing some things that probably aren't true. For example, the film talks a lot about Unocal's plans for a pipeline across Afghanistan, which I doubt had much impact on the course of the Afghan war. Someday, when the crisis of American democracy is over, I'll probably find myself berating Mr. Moore, who supported Ralph Nader in 2000, for his simplistic antiglobalization views. But not now. Fahrenheit 9/11 is a tendentious, flawed movie, but it tells essential truths about leaders who exploited a national tragedy for political gain, and the ordinary Americans who paid the price. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM
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Fahrenheit 9/11 Facts http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/f911facts/ What does the media have to say about Fahrenheit 9/11 http://www.fahrenheit911.com/about/press/ June 30, 2004 NY Daily News: A soaring display of American patriotism Moore's message delivered, big-time By Denis Hamill / New York Daily News Tuesday, June 29th, 2004 http://www.fahrenheit911.com/about/press/view.php?id=15 You could have heard a tear fall. As an American mother named Lila Lipscomb drowned in anguish over the death of her son in Iraq, the packed Loews Bay Terrace theater in Queens was so silent at the 11 a.m. show of Fahrenheit 9/11 on Friday that all you could hear was the rustle of tissues. I sat in the back of the theater, with an unemployed construction worker from Brooklyn, and as the movie played, I watched men and women, young and old, wiping their eyes in silhouette. They were the tears of the nation this weekend as Fahrenheit 9/11 blazed from sea to shining sea as the No.1 movie in America. This was a brand-new moviegoing experience. Since I started going to the movies at age 4 at the RKO Prospect in Brooklyn, I don't think I've ever sat with an audience so personally involved with the story being told on screen. This was not, after all, some exploding-fireball blockbuster. No, the exploding fireballs in this film are real. The dead people in this film are real. The dialogue is real. Real soldiers, real victims, real mothers, real dead kids. The bad guys, as portrayed by filmmaker Michael Moore, are all too real. The only thing fake is this administration's reasons for going to war, exploiting the nearly 3,000 deaths of Sept. 11 so that a rich kid who went AWOL from the National Guard during the Vietnam War could send American troops to die in Iraq and call himself a war prez'dint. And the reason the people in the audience, the American people, get so involved in this movie is because we are all extras in the story. The film - as sidesplitting as it is heartbreaking - is a soaring display of American patriotism, one that defies classification because it is a personal statement, the way Thomas Paine's Common Sense was something brand new in its bloody day. As Paine wrote, Government, even in its best state, is a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one. Moore doesn't tolerate Bush's government. Sometimes we need a smart, funny, common Joe to make some common sense out of what's happening in his country. If there had been cameras around back in the day, Tom Paine might have made a documentary instead of writing a pamphlet urging independence from England. Fahrenheit 9/11 oozes with patriotism because it is a loud celebration of our great Bill of Rights, telling our commander in chief that we think his war stinks in an election year. Look, the Bush campaign spent $85 million in three months trying to convince the electorate that John Kerry is a flip-flopping left-wing threat to national security. Moore spent $6 million to make his documentary showing that Bush is an arrogant, self-serving, dangerous buffoon who is a threat to national security. Fahrenheit 9/11 is also a corrective to the daily drumbeat of right-wing talk radio, which slants the news to fit a radical agenda. Yet the Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys scorn Michael Moore for daring to express his point of view with pictures. But Americans don't like hypocrites. And so they are forking over $10 a head to say so, in places like Queens and Brooklyn and small working-class towns and neighborhoods across the fruited plain from which come the kids who do the dying in America's good and bad wars. Fahrenheit 9/11 also has been picked apart by the legitimate press. But this is because Moore spanks the American news media for being swept up in the myopic post-9/11 patriotic hysteria, allowing themselves to be embedded by the administration and spoon-fed jingoistic Iraqi war news. Fahrenheit 9/11 is also a testament to American capitalism, because nowhere else on the planet could a working-class guy from a place like Flint, Mich., grow up to skewer the President of the United States with his own words and actions and turn it into the biggest-grossing documentary in history, taking in $21.8 million in its opening weekend. This is a great American Horatio Alger story, one that every American should applaud. Which is exactly what the audience in Queens did last week after George W. Bush mangled his final sentence and the end credits rolled. I was as emotionally moved by the applause as I was by the film, because that was the powerful sound of Joe Public, as Bush refers to We the People. Out here in the opinionated boroughs, I expected some boos. I didn't hear one. Instead, I left with a deeply moved crowd, passing a long line for the next show. Back in Brooklyn, the unemployed construction worker bought a bootleg copy of
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
SCORCHING! The best film Michael Moore has made so far, a powerful and passionate expression of outraged patriotism. THE NEW YORK TIMES - A.O. Scott http://www.fahrenheit911.com One of the most controversial and provocative films of the year, Fahrenheit 9/11 is Academy Award-winning filmmaker Michael Moore's searing examination of the Bush administration's actions in the wake of the tragic events of 9/11. With his characteristic humor and dogged commitment to uncovering the facts, Moore considers the presidency of George W. Bush and where it has led us. He looks at how - and why - Bush and his inner circle avoided pursuing the Saudi connection to 9/11, despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis and Saudi money had funded Al Qaeda. Fahrenheit 9/11 shows us a nation kept in constant fear by FBI alerts and lulled into accepting a piece of legislation, the USA Patriot Act, that infringes on basic civil rights. It is in this atmosphere of confusion, suspicion and dread that the Bush Administration makes its headlong rush towards war in Iraq - and Fahrenheit 9/11 takes us inside that war to tell the stories we haven't heard, illustrating the awful human cost to U.S. soldiers and their families. Lions Gate Films will release the film nationwide on June 25th. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
Fahrenheit Burns Up Box Office by Bridget Byrne Jun 28, 2004 http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,14397,00.html Fahrenheit 9/11 torched all comers this weekend. Michael Moore's assault on President Bush was even hotter than anticipated, earning a searing $23.9 million to become the first documentary in Hollywood history to top the box-office charts, according to studio tallies released Monday. The final figure was up 9 percent from initial estimates Sunday. In just three days, from Friday to Sunday, Fahrenheit 9/11 also eclipsed Moore's Bowling for Columbine as the highest grossing documentary of all time. Since opening in limited release Wednesday, Fahrenheit 9/11 has grossed $24.1 million. By now the film's backstory is legend. Fahrenheit 9/11 was dumped by Disney for political reasons. The right-wing Website MoveAmericaForward.org launched a letter-writing campaign trying to keep the film out of theaters. Another conservative group, Citizens United, filed a complaint with the Federal Elections Commission, asking it to investigate whether the movie's TV ads featuring a bumbling Bush violate federal laws. Then the MPAA refused to lower the film's rating from an R, effectively limiting the number of people who could see it. But Moore and producers Harvey and Bob Weinstein weren't deterred. After the film won the Palm d'Or at Cannes, the Weinsteins bought the rights from Disney and collaborated with Lions Gate Films and IFC Entertainment to bring the film to what turns out to be the eager masses. Although the distributors failed to reach the 1,000-theater mark they were aiming for, Fahrenheit 9/11 played to sold-out houses at just 868 sites, earning a blockbuster $27,558 per-screen average. Costing only $6 million to produce and less than $10 million to market, the pay-off is obvious for this provocative documentary critically praised for its wit, heart and chutzpah. If estimates hold, Fahrenheit 9/11 has already beaten Moore's anti-gun screed Bowling for Columbine, which has taken in $21.5 million since opening in October 2002. That movie only debuted at eight sites and, despite winning an Oscar, never played at more than 248 locations. Tupac: Resurrection had the previous best opening for a documentary, with $4.6 million in 801 theaters last November. Hearing this news this morning--these are mind-blowing numbers, Moore said during a Sunday morning teleconference. And the fact that all the predictions that the movie would only speak to the choir, that it would only be those who don't like Bush coming to the movie, I don't think have turned out to be true. This movie has played in the Red [Republican-leaning] States as strongly as it's played in the Blue [Democratic] States. This is maybe the sleeper hit of all time, said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office tracker Exhibitor Relations. Lions Gate President Tom Ortenberg said he'd never witnessed such a positive response before on exit surveys. In the 15 cities surveyed, the results were, he said, 91 percent 'excellent' and 93 percent 'definite recommend.' The audience was almost 50-50 male-female and the highest demographic was 25-34 year olds. Anticipating that excellent word of mouth will carry over, the distributors plan to add hundreds more screens next week, although they will be going up against the anticipated summer blockbuster Spider-Man 2. I am happy to announce the efforts of a small-minded few to suppress and censor the film have failed miserably, said IFC Entertainment President Jonathan Sehring. But he said he would not include Michael Eisner, Disney's head honcho, in that group. Why should he kick Mickey while he's down? While Fahrenheit 9/11 breaks box-office records, the Mouse House's latest offering, Around the World in Eighty Days, which only opened an abysmal ninth last week, dropped out of the top 10. Falling 44 percent to 13th place, the remake earned just $4.3 million from a $1,526 per-screen average to brings its current gross to a woeful $18.3 million. And it cost a reported $110 million to produce. CONTINUED http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,14397,00.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
Fahrenheit 9/11 (2004) RATING: FRESH READING: 85% A few featured Critics below http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/Fahrenheit911-1133649/reviews.php?beg=0int=123creamcrop_limit=34page=all The movie's conclusions -- true or otherwise -- and highly emotional interviews with bereaved parents and injured soldiers will have a big impact on audiences around the world. -- Ian Youngs, BBC Love it or hate it, Fahrenheit is unprecedented in its relentless and up-to-the-minute attack on a sitting president. -- Chris Vognar, DALLAS MORNING NEWS One every American should see. -- Eric Harrison, HOUSTON CHRONICLE Fahrenheit 9/11 isn't a cogent, revelatory expos, but a dizzying compendium of facts and opinions, wrapped up in a heartfelt, passionate, surprisingly moving package. -- Rene Rodriguez, MIAMI HERALD A film every citizen of voting age in America should see. -- Tom Long, DETROIT NEWS Not a film to be ignored. -- Bill Muller, ARIZONA REPUBLIC The documentary's scathing attack on the war in Iraq and George W. Bush's presidency is informative, provocative, frightening, compelling, funny, manipulative and, most of all, entertaining. -- Claudia Puig, USA TODAY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
Box Office Tally Climbs for 'Fahrenheit 9/11' Jun 28, 2004 http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNewsstoryID=5534559 LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Box-office fever for Michael Moore's searing anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 climbed a bit higher on Monday as distributors touted record-breaking ticket sales about $2 million more than first reported. According to a final tally of weekend receipts, Moore's critique of President Bush and his policies since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on America grossed $23.9 million during its first three days of release across the United States and Canada. That made it No. 1 at the box office and surpassed the $21.5 million generated by Moore's previous film, the Oscar-winning Bowling for Columbine, as the highest-grossing documentary ever. All told, the movie's total stood at just over $24 million counting the head-start it received on Wednesday in two Manhattan theaters generating extra media buzz before expanding to a relatively modest 868 theaters two days later. Previous tallies reported Sunday had Moore's film grossing $21.8 million since Friday. By contrast, most of the other movies in the top five were showing in more than 2,500 theaters each, giving Fahrenheit 9/11 a much higher per-theater average -- above $27,000 -- than any of its competition and demonstrating that it was playing to packed houses. The comedy White Chicks opened at No. 2 with $19.6 million in Friday-through-Sunday ticket sales, the same as reported over the weekend. Distributors Lions Gate Films and IFC Films have said release of the film, already unprecedented for a political documentary, would be expanded further in the weeks ahead. Tom Ortenberg, Lions Gate distribution president, said the film played strongly in big cities and small towns, alike, and in Democratic as well as Republican states. Next week, the film faces far stiffer competition from the highly anticipated opening of Spider-Man 2. Moore's film suggests that Bush's response to the September 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon were clouded by his relatives' close ties to the Saudi Arabian elite, including Osama bin Laden's family. It further claims that the Bush administration stoked public fears about terrorism to support a needless and costly invasion of Iraq. Moore and backers of the film have said they hope it can influence the outcome of the November presidential race. Republican supporters dismiss the movie as a blatant piece of political propaganda. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
'9/11' documents a mother's grief By Gary Strauss 6/28/2004 http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2004-06-28-fahrenheit-lipscomb_x.htm Fahrenheit 9/11 might be polarizing much of the nation, but there's one thing about the controversial Bush-bashing documentary most viewers probably will agree on: Key scenes featuring Lila Lipscomb are gut-wrenching and haunting. The Fahrenheit 9/11 scenes showing unabashed patriot Lila Lipscomb's reaction to her son's death in Iraq are difficult to watch. Lipscomb initially appears, literally, as a flag-waving patriot. Later, when her son Michael Pedersen is killed when his Black Hawk helicopter is downed in April 2003, Lipscomb breaks down as she reads his jaded letter from the front. By film's end, when Lipscomb makes a tearful pilgrimage to the White House, her sorrow - punctuated by a woman who questions her motives - is excruciating. At many screenings, her latter vignettes move audiences to tears. Documentary filmmaker Cory Kennedy says Lipscomb's scenes are among Fahrenheit 9/11's most moving. Former New York governor Mario Cuomo, hired by the film's distributors in a failed effort to get it a family-friendly PG-13 rating, says he found it difficult to watch her. You see Lila living through a despair that will never leave, Cuomo says. Lipscomb has seen Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 several times. She finds it difficult to watch herself and tearfully concedes that the raw emotion surrounding her son's death remains intense. I don't want any more mothers - Americans or Iraqis - to feel this pain, Lipscomb told USA TODAY on Monday. Still, moving from Bush supporter to war critic has been hard. I grew up with the understanding that you support the president, no matter who he is, says Lipscomb, an office administrator in Flint, Mich.. But after reading Michael's letters and seeing how angry and frustrated he was becoming and wondering why he was there in the first place, I started questioning why we were there. Lipscomb last saw Pedersen - nicknamed Pistol Ped for his basketball prowess - when he returned to Flint for Christmas in 2002. There were a number of things he did that might have made him think he wasn't coming home, Lipscomb says. He had a clear commitment to fulfilling his oath for this nation. Yet he had a clear understanding that he had been sent into harm's way for things that were not true. Lipscomb turned 50 Sunday. I went to his grave hoping I could hear him say, 'Happy birthday, Mom,' she says. But I didn't get it. She has three other kids and seven grandchildren. Her oldest daughter, Jennifer, served in the military during the 1991 Gulf War but wasn't in the conflict. Pedersen, her second oldest, joined the Army at 19, when his job at a local Long John Silver's fast-food outlet failed to pay enough to buy diapers and formula for his newborn daughter, Destiny, now 8. Like many teens with limited job prospects, Pedersen had his mother's blessing. Two of Lipscomb's older brothers are Vietnam vets, and she believed military service would be a good experience for her eldest son: He could travel, learn a career and earn a decent income. Who knew? she now asks, shaking her head. Pedersen rose to Black Hawk crew chief and was planning to train as a pilot, put in his 20 years and then retire from the military. He was shipped first to Kuwait and later to Iraq. We would send him boxes of beef jerky, Rice Krispies treats and Pepsi, Lipscomb says. He loved cold Pepsi and Rice Krispies treats. Although Lipscomb and her husband, Howard, are both longtime Flint residents, they knew little of Moore, who was raised in nearby Davison and had made Flint a focal point in 1989's Roger Me and 2002's Bowling for Columbine. A Moore staffer contacted Lipscomb after learning of her son's death. Though Moore has a reputation for being manipulative, Lipscomb says he made sure that she would not be offended by her scenes in the film, offering to remove anything she found troubling. Michael was fantastic, Lipscomb says. I hope everyone will see the film. I hope it will open people's eyes and make them begin to ask questions and start speaking up for themselves. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
Yeah, it is a little slanted isn't it? I for one do not care to see the country made over into the image that Michael Moore would like to see. I have seen pictures of that punk from his high school days reminds me too much of the hell raisers and agitators that are largely responsible for doing away with a number of the traditions and morals of this country. He still looks it, just older and uglier and fatter. Cliff Jobe Subject: Fahrenheit 9/11 Went to see this last night with my son (age 14). He thought it was awesome. Unfortunately, I could not interest any of the women in the party (my wife and sisters) in seeing it, so they went to something fluffy (multi-screen cinema). For those that don't know, this is a Michael Moore movie that touches on the American political scene since the last federal election, including the Florida voting fiasco, and the media-supported disinformation campaign that led up to the invasion of Iraq. While it covers some of the same material as the book Dude, Where's My Country, there is also a major difference in approach and material covered. Not much that will come as news to those of us on the biofuels list. Still, seeing the actual footage of Bush-ites mouthing the words, or the egg- pelting of the Bush II inauguration parade and the Congress (Senators), with Al Gore presiding, repudiating the democratic rights of American voters all resonated for me in a way it did not in print. Should be required viewing for all U.S. voters prior to November 2004. Darryl McMahon -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com/ It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
Published on Sunday, June 27, 2004 by Reuters Red-Hot 'Fahrenheit 9/11' a No. 1 Hit Across America by Dean Goodman LOS ANGELES - Bush-bashing became the nation's favorite spectator sport over the weekend as Michael Moore's red-hot documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 earned more in its first three days of release across North America than his previous record-breaking movie did in its entire run. According to studio estimates issued on Sunday, Fahrenheit 9/11, in which Moore takes aim at President Bush, and the war in Iraq, opened at No. 1 after selling about $21.8 million worth of tickets in the United States and Canada since June 25. All told, the movie's total stands at $21.96 million, because it got a head-start on Wednesday in two Manhattan theaters to help build more media buzz before expanding to a relatively modest 868 theaters two days later. (By contrast, most of the other movies in the top five were playing in more than 2,500 theaters each.) CONTINUED... http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0627-01.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, it is a little slanted isn't it? I for one do not care to see the country made over into the image that Michael Moore would like to see. I have seen pictures of that punk from his high school days reminds me too much of the hell raisers and agitators that are largely responsible for doing away with a number of the traditions and morals of this country. He still looks it, just older and uglier and fatter. Cliff Jobe You're right, it would be better if there were never any punks that wanted to change our traditions or morals. And you're right, he's ugly and fat so that makes all the difference! Thank you for making an excellent contribution to the biofuel list. -- -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/ http://nnytech.net/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
FAHRENHEIT FRENZY According to exit surveys in about 15 cities, 91 percent of respondents gave the film an excellent rating, while 93 percent said they would definitely recommend the film -- tallies that Ortenberg said were the best he had ever seen. The core audience was aged between 25 and 34, he added. Published on Sunday, June 27, 2004 by Reuters Red-Hot 'Fahrenheit 9/11' a No. 1 Hit Across America by Dean Goodman CONTINUED... http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0627-01.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
Yeah, it is a little slanted isn't it? I for one do not care to see the country made over into the image that Michael Moore would like to see. I have seen pictures of that punk from his high school days reminds me too much of the hell raisers and agitators that are largely responsible for doing away with a number of the traditions and morals of this country. He still looks it, just older and uglier and fatter. Cliff Jobe And the horrific erosion of just about everything worth half a damn wrought by the people you apparently support has somehow escaped your notice? Who poked your other eye out? Keith Subject: Fahrenheit 9/11 Went to see this last night with my son (age 14). He thought it was awesome. Unfortunately, I could not interest any of the women in the party (my wife and sisters) in seeing it, so they went to something fluffy (multi-screen cinema). For those that don't know, this is a Michael Moore movie that touches on the American political scene since the last federal election, including the Florida voting fiasco, and the media-supported disinformation campaign that led up to the invasion of Iraq. While it covers some of the same material as the book Dude, Where's My Country, there is also a major difference in approach and material covered. Not much that will come as news to those of us on the biofuels list. Still, seeing the actual footage of Bush-ites mouthing the words, or the egg- pelting of the Bush II inauguration parade and the Congress (Senators), with Al Gore presiding, repudiating the democratic rights of American voters all resonated for me in a way it did not in print. Should be required viewing for all U.S. voters prior to November 2004. Darryl McMahon -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com/ It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
Hallo, Writing from my daughters machine. New grandson last night! Why should it not be slanted? Mike is a liberal and states that from the get go. It is his movie, eh? As for the reminding one of a high school punk. I am a native of Flint and when I came home from the Nam and was hanging out here and there I met Mike. He was just a youngster in high school and he was a nice kid. Still is for that matter I would think. I remember Flint as is was in the late 40's and early 50's and he is right about the decline of Flint and the main reasons for that decline. Corporate greed. I remember my grandfather talking about the sit down strikes in '36 and the early union and how it became just like management in the mid '50's interested in only 2 things. More money/benefits for less and less work and the maintainance of the status quo, that being keeping the union bosses in their cushy jobs. Management wanted more and more work for less money and to maintain the status quo, that being keeping the managment bosses in their cushy jobs. Mike Moore tells it as he sees it and is right more often than not. There is no reason for him to be other than one sided because he is defending a partisan position. I don't remember seeing the rule which states that liberals have to be fair and balanced and conservatives not or vice versa. Moore is attacking evil as he sees it and unlike politicians he documents what he says and those documents are up for viewing on his web site. His documents are not fabricated as were those which this administration used to lead the country into an unjust and evil war. Bush and his running mates have been exposed for what they are. Moore will not have that trouble as he is up front in the first place and doesn't hide behind lies and national security. The difference between Bush and Moore is one of integrity. Both of them make mistakes but Moore does not lie about his mistakes. Bush has been proven to be a liar. Happy Happy, Gustl On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 14:25:19 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, it is a little slanted isn't it? I for one do not care to see the country made over into the image that Michael Moore would like to see. I have seen pictures of that punk from his high school days reminds me too much of the hell raisers and agitators that are largely responsible for doing away with a number of the traditions and morals of this country. He still looks it, just older and uglier and fatter. Cliff Jobe Subject: Fahrenheit 9/11 Went to see this last night with my son (age 14). He thought it was awesome. Unfortunately, I could not interest any of the women in the party (my wife and sisters) in seeing it, so they went to something fluffy (multi-screen cinema). For those that don't know, this is a Michael Moore movie that touches on the American political scene since the last federal election, including the Florida voting fiasco, and the media-supported disinformation campaign that led up to the invasion of Iraq. While it covers some of the same material as the book Dude, Where's My Country, there is also a major difference in approach and material covered. Not much that will come as news to those of us on the biofuels list. Still, seeing the actual footage of Bush-ites mouthing the words, or the egg- pelting of the Bush II inauguration parade and the Congress (Senators), with Al Gore presiding, repudiating the democratic rights of American voters all resonated for me in a way it did not in print. Should be required viewing for all U.S. voters prior to November 2004. Darryl McMahon -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com/ It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links
[biofuel] 'Fahrenheit 9/11' ban?
http://www.thehill.com/news/062404/moore.aspx June 24, 2004 'Fahrenheit 9/11' ban? Ads for Moore's movie could be stopped on July 30 By Alexander Bolton Michael Moore may be prevented from advertising his controversial new movie, Fahrenheit 9/11, on television or radio after July 30 if the Federal Election Commission (FEC) today accepts the legal advice of its general counsel. At the same time, a Republican-allied 527 soft-money group is preparing to file a complaint against Moore's film with the FEC for violating campaign-finance law. In a draft advisory opinion placed on the FEC's agenda for today's meeting, the agency's general counsel states that political documentary filmmakers may not air television or radio ads referring to federal candidates within 30 days of a primary election or 60 days of a general election. The opinion is generated under the new McCain-Feingold campaign-finance law, which prohibits corporate-funded ads that identify a federal candidate before a primary or general election. The proscription is broadly defined. Section 100.29 of the federal election regulations defines restricted corporate-funded ads as those that identify a candidate by his name, nickname, photograph or drawing or make it otherwise apparent through an unambiguous reference. Should the six members of the FEC vote to approve the counsel's opinion, it could put a serious crimp on Moore's promotion efforts. The flavor of the movie was encapsulated by a recent review in The Boston Globe as the case against George W. Bush, a fat compendium of previously reported crimes, errors, sins, and grievances delivered in the director's patented tone of vaudevillian social outrage. The FEC ruling may also affect promotion of a slew of other upcoming political documentaries and films, such as Uncovered: The Whole Truth About the Iraq War, which opens in August, The Corporation, about democratic institutions being subsumed by the corporate agenda, or Silver City, a recently finished film by John Sayles that criticizes the Bush administration. Another film, The Hunting of the President, which investigates whether Bill Clinton was the victim of a vast conspiracy, could be subject to regulations if it mentions Bush or members of Congress in its ads. Since the FEC considers the Republican presidential convention scheduled to begin Aug. 30 a national political primary in which Bush is a candidate, Moore and other politically oriented filmmakers could not air any ad mentioning Bush after July 30. That could make advertising for the film after July difficult since it is all about the Bush administration and what Moore regards as its mishandling of the war on terrorism and the decision to invade Iraq. After the convention, ads for political films that mention Bush or any other federal candidate would be subject to the restrictions on all corporate communications within 60 days of the Nov. 2 general election. Fahrenheit 9/11 opens nationally tomorrow. The film's distributor, Lions Gate Films, an incorporated organization, would almost certainly pay for its broadcast promotions. David Bossie, the president of Citizens United, plans to allege that Fahrenheit 9/11 violates federal election law, arguing that Moore has publicly indicated his goal is to impact this election season. Bossie had planned to file a complaint with the FEC yesterday but postponed action because his lawyers want to review it at the last minute, said Summer Stitz, a spokeswoman for Bossie's group. I don't think much of Michael Moore or his two-hour political advertisement - that's all it is, Bossie said. He uses all of these words to make it look like he makes documentaries, but it's the furthest thing from the truth. Documentaries tend to be fact-based. Sarah Greenberg, a spokeswoman for Lions Gate Films who is serving as Moore's spokeswoman, did not return a call for comment. The FEC counsel's draft advisory opinion responded to a request for guidance from David Hardy, a documentary film producer with the Bill of Rights Educational Foundation. Hardy asked whether he could air broadcast ads that refer to congressional officeholders who appear in his documentary. At issue in the FEC's opinion is whether documentary films qualify for a media exemption, which allows members of the press to discuss political candidates freely in the days before an election. In its opinion, the general counsel wrote, In McConnell vs. FEC É (2003) the [Supreme] Court described the media exemption as 'narrow' and drew a distinction between 'corporations that are part of the media industry' as opposed to 'other corporations that are not involved in the regular business of imparting news to the public.' The radio and television commercials that you describe in your request would be electioneering communications, the counsel concluded. The proposed commercials would refer to at least one presidential candidate. É
Re: [biofuel] 'Fahrenheit 9/11' ban?
Extremely unlikely. They are using the corporate sponsor thing to try and get adverts banned. I believe there is mention of a similar situation in the past where adverts for non-election related items that involved candidates were allowed. ALthough they did also make networks halt the playing of Arnold Swartzenager movies in California during their re-elections. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
Professional Critics Nationwide Applaud Fahrenheit 9/11 Friday June 25, 11:05 am ET http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040625/sff013_1.html Controversial Picture Earns Rotten Tomatoes' Certified Fresh Rating EMERYVILLE, Calif., June 25 /PRNewswire/ -- Rotten Tomatoes(SM), the most trusted source for gauging the critical reaction for movies, has officially declared Michael Moore's new documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 to be Certified Fresh, based on the overwhelmingly positive ratings of professional film critics nationwide. The high quality certification for a documentary is unprecedented. Certified Fresh recognizes and celebrates the best reviewed entertainment products based on the opinions of nearly 700 professional film critics. Movies must receive the approval of at least 75% of the critics reviewing the film in order to be Certified Fresh. Since launching the accolade earlier this year, only seven wide release films have achieved the rating. This weekend Fahrenheit 9/11 becomes only the seventh wide release film to reach this pinnacle, and becomes the first wide-release documentary to be Certified Fresh by Rotten Tomatoes. Rotten Tomatoes congratulates Lion's Gate Entertainment and Michael Moore on this achievement, Patrick Lee, Rotten Tomatoes' CEO. About Rotten Tomatoes Rotten Tomatoes, a premier online destination for casual movie-goers, film buffs, and industry insiders alike, delivers the most comprehensive information on the critical reaction. Voted the best movie review site in Time Magazine's online feature, The 50 Best Web Sites in 2003, Rotten Tomatoes has received glowing accolades from the Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker, USA Today, and many other respected publications. With information on more than one hundred thousand movies and half a million reviews, the website offers a full range of services, features, and community for its users, including the ability to quickly and easily create socially networked online journals. With the opinions of nearly 700 accredited film critics analyzed each week, Rotten Tomatoes is the most comprehensive and trusted source for reporting on the critical reaction. The award-winning Tomatometer rating system harnesses the power of written criticism by providing a capsule summary of the diverse opinions of the community of professional film critics. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11
Went to see this last night with my son (age 14). He thought it was awesome. Unfortunately, I could not interest any of the women in the party (my wife and sisters) in seeing it, so they went to something fluffy (multi-screen cinema). For those that don't know, this is a Michael Moore movie that touches on the American political scene since the last federal election, including the Florida voting fiasco, and the media-supported disinformation campaign that led up to the invasion of Iraq. While it covers some of the same material as the book Dude, Where's My Country, there is also a major difference in approach and material covered. Not much that will come as news to those of us on the biofuels list. Still, seeing the actual footage of Bush-ites mouthing the words, or the egg- pelting of the Bush II inauguration parade and the Congress (Senators), with Al Gore presiding, repudiating the democratic rights of American voters all resonated for me in a way it did not in print. Should be required viewing for all U.S. voters prior to November 2004. Darryl McMahon -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com/ It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
