Re: [biofuel] This is so pathetic, then read this

2003-06-13 Thread Irwin Levinson

Mr. M.
Are you so niave?  that the phrase We(The USA) will use the worlds energy 
producing materials anywhere (place) they are, until they are all gone and THEN 
we will start to use The USA's fuel next.
If you are not niave, then you know USCorps and Monops will control all 
sources of energy, even not on USA soil and sell it to ourselves and others at 
top price.
Irv Levinson
***
---Original Message---
From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06/11/03 09:10 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] This is so pathetic

 
 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030610/ap_on_go_co/natural_gas_crunch_13
 
 The U.S.'s only response to this looming crunch on natural gas is to fall into
 the same trap we have done with Oil?  Where does it end?  Why does such a 
 great
 country have to just demand such massive energy imports when it could
 manufacture or harvest more of its own energy?
 
 We could easily set up to harvest wind, solar biomass and other energy,
 manufacture electricity or natural gas or whatever from these sources, and
 satsify at least some of this rising demand.  I do not suggest these as 
 cure-all
 solutions. I suggest only that it's pathetic that the U.S. has only the answer
 to fall into this giant new dependency, when we have so much technological
 expertise.  
 
 I wonder if we will prop up (or create) semi-totaltarian regimes in countries
 which send us LNG, in the same sense that we have propped up such regimes in
 some of the countries which send us Oil, feigning concern for upright 
 political
 philosophy while practicing policies of diplomatic expediency.
 
 The advocates of these LNG-Importation-will-solve-everything policies 
 apparently
 have little more concern for our Trade Deficit than for our Budget Deficit.
 There is a lot of Energy that we could harvest and convert right here at home,
 if only we will bother.
 
 MM
 
 
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Re: [biofuel] This is so pathetic, then read this

2003-06-13 Thread murdoch

On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 18:29:08 -0500 (CDT), you wrote:

Mr. M.
Are you so niave?  that the phrase We(The USA) will use the worlds energy 
producing materials anywhere (place) they are, until they are all gone and 
THEN we will start to use The USA's fuel next.
If you are not niave, then you know USCorps and Monops will control all 
sources of energy, even not on USA soil and sell it to ourselves and others at 
top price.
Irv Levinson
***

Doesn't stop me from pointing out the wrongness of it, nor the hypocrisy of it.
If they want to admit and say what they're up to, that's fine.  But as long as
they pretend they're doing this because they want to further my interests and
the interests of Individual Rights, American and otherwise, they're hypocrites
and liars and I'm going to say so.

MM

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Re: [biofuel] This is so pathetic

2003-06-12 Thread murdoch

On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 21:31:59 -0700, you wrote:



murdoch wrote:

 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030610/ap_on_go_co/natural_gas_crunch_13

 The U.S.'s only response to this looming crunch on natural gas is to fall 
 into
 the same trap we have done with Oil?  Where does it end?  Why does such a 
 great
 country have to just demand such massive energy imports when it could
 manufacture or harvest more of its own energy?


I've been complaining about this problem to anyone who will listen for 
 quite some time now.
Today, for the first time, a friend acknowledged that I have a point about 
natural gas
supplies--but only AFTER he'd heard about Greenspan's remarks.

Nobody wants to hear the truth!

Indeed.  Also, I forgot to add conservation to the several additional areas we
should be exploring more in earnest.

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[biofuel] This is so pathetic

2003-06-11 Thread murdoch

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030610/ap_on_go_co/natural_gas_crunch_13

The U.S.'s only response to this looming crunch on natural gas is to fall into
the same trap we have done with Oil?  Where does it end?  Why does such a great
country have to just demand such massive energy imports when it could
manufacture or harvest more of its own energy?

We could easily set up to harvest wind, solar biomass and other energy,
manufacture electricity or natural gas or whatever from these sources, and
satsify at least some of this rising demand.  I do not suggest these as cure-all
solutions. I suggest only that it's pathetic that the U.S. has only the answer
to fall into this giant new dependency, when we have so much technological
expertise.  

I wonder if we will prop up (or create) semi-totaltarian regimes in countries
which send us LNG, in the same sense that we have propped up such regimes in
some of the countries which send us Oil, feigning concern for upright political
philosophy while practicing policies of diplomatic expediency.

The advocates of these LNG-Importation-will-solve-everything policies apparently
have little more concern for our Trade Deficit than for our Budget Deficit.
There is a lot of Energy that we could harvest and convert right here at home,
if only we will bother.

MM

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Re: [biofuel] This is so pathetic

2003-06-11 Thread robert luis rabello



murdoch wrote:

 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030610/ap_on_go_co/natural_gas_crunch_13

 The U.S.'s only response to this looming crunch on natural gas is to fall into
 the same trap we have done with Oil?  Where does it end?  Why does such a 
 great
 country have to just demand such massive energy imports when it could
 manufacture or harvest more of its own energy?


I've been complaining about this problem to anyone who will listen for 
quite some time now.
Today, for the first time, a friend acknowledged that I have a point about 
natural gas
supplies--but only AFTER he'd heard about Greenspan's remarks.

Nobody wants to hear the truth!

robert luis rabello
The Edge of Justice
Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.1stbooks.com/bookview/9782



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