RE: [biofuels-biz] Emissions of micro emulsions of vegetable oil
Steven, Good to hear you are having good experiences with this. My main concern would be with material compatibility with the ethanol and fuel system components. Are you aware of the problems encountered early this year with the VP44 Bosch Injector Pumps? Do you find this blend stays mixed over time? Do you find any issues with this fuel blend? I cannot recall having seen any of the data you are looking for although I will have a search soon as this is of interest to me also. Darren -Original Message- From: Steven Helen Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 July 2003 22:52 To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuels-biz] Emissions of micro emulsions of vegetable oil Back again. I am intrigued by recent mentions of Green diesel, blends of 75% vegeoil and 25% diesel. Vegeburner (great website by the way) also has quite a commentary on micro emulsions. Emulsions are very simple to make, and are less involved than producing biodiesel, and can be used straight away after blending. I have been using the 9% blended ethanol with vegeoil in my SVO kit (as per ACREVO report)and have been unable to notice any power difference between the emulsion and diesel. I presume there are quite a number of different emulsion blends out there, but has there been research that has studied emissions outputs or wear characteristics of these blends? Steven Hobbs www.bebioenergy.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.500 / Virus Database: 298 - Release Date: 10/07/2003 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Coral Calcium for Greater Health. 1 month supply - $23.95 (1 bottle, 90 tablets, 400mg each with Magnesium Vitamin D) http://www.challengerone.com/t/l.asp?cid=2805 lp=calcium2.asp http://us.click.yahoo.com/mcIe3D/v9VGAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuels-biz] Emissions of micro emulsions of vegetable oil
Hi Darren, Steven Steven, Good to hear you are having good experiences with this. My main concern would be with material compatibility with the ethanol and fuel system components. Are you aware of the problems encountered early this year with the VP44 Bosch Injector Pumps? Do you find this blend stays mixed over time? I found you can blend up to 21% absolute ethanol with virgin canola and it stays mixed, and 5% water content in the ethanol (as per ACREVO) didn't make much if any difference. Only up to 13% absolute methanol, by contrast. Best Keith Do you find any issues with this fuel blend? I cannot recall having seen any of the data you are looking for although I will have a search soon as this is of interest to me also. Darren -Original Message- From: Steven Helen Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 July 2003 22:52 To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuels-biz] Emissions of micro emulsions of vegetable oil Back again. I am intrigued by recent mentions of Green diesel, blends of 75% vegeoil and 25% diesel. Vegeburner (great website by the way) also has quite a commentary on micro emulsions. Emulsions are very simple to make, and are less involved than producing biodiesel, and can be used straight away after blending. I have been using the 9% blended ethanol with vegeoil in my SVO kit (as per ACREVO report)and have been unable to notice any power difference between the emulsion and diesel. I presume there are quite a number of different emulsion blends out there, but has there been research that has studied emissions outputs or wear characteristics of these blends? Steven Hobbs www.bebioenergy.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Emissions of micro emulsions of vegetable oil
Back again. I am intrigued by recent mentions of Green diesel, blends of 75% vegeoil and 25% diesel. Vegeburner (great website by the way) also has quite a commentary on micro emulsions. Emulsions are very simple to make, and are less involved than producing biodiesel, and can be used straight away after blending. I have been using the 9% blended ethanol with vegeoil in my SVO kit (as per ACREVO report)and have been unable to notice any power difference between the emulsion and diesel. I presume there are quite a number of different emulsion blends out there, but has there been research that has studied emissions outputs or wear characteristics of these blends? Steven Hobbs www.bebioenergy.com Hello Steve What have you noticed comparing the 9% ethanol-SVO (or WVO?) blend with straight SVO (WVO), if anything? Which SVO kit is it (probably a pertinent question)? Anyway, as long as you (and all) are well aware that, unlike biodiesel use, it's not a well-travelled road and you can't trust the signposts, even more so than with SVO (still the case, though increasingly less so with good two-tank systems). I think Darren emphasizes that with micro-emulsions. An archive search for emulsion will give you some interesting reading, by the way: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuels-biz Best Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free shipping on all inkjet cartridge refill kit orders to US Canada. Low prices up to 80% off. We have your brand: HP, Epson, Lexmark more. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5510 http://us.click.yahoo.com/GHXcIA/n.WGAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuels-biz] Emissions of micro emulsions of vegetable oil
Hi Keith I installed a kit using one of Eds heaters. The old ute purred away happily enough on SVO, but I lost a bit of steam going up hills. I read the ACREVO report and I thought that sounded pretty impressive. I initially tried methanol, but it wouldn't stay in emulsion...so I got hold of, and tried some ethanol (exactally what the report said!) When I tried it in the ute, I couldn't pick any difference between the power loss I normally experience on diesel and the emulsion. Just as another note, I use cold pressed virgin oil, unrefined. Perhaps to use it more successfully I should refine it (degum) Thanks for the link Regards Steven www.bebioenergy.com -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 5:00 PM To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Emissions of micro emulsions of vegetable oil Back again. I am intrigued by recent mentions of Green diesel, blends of 75% vegeoil and 25% diesel. Vegeburner (great website by the way) also has quite a commentary on micro emulsions. Emulsions are very simple to make, and are less involved than producing biodiesel, and can be used straight away after blending. I have been using the 9% blended ethanol with vegeoil in my SVO kit (as per ACREVO report)and have been unable to notice any power difference between the emulsion and diesel. I presume there are quite a number of different emulsion blends out there, but has there been research that has studied emissions outputs or wear characteristics of these blends? Steven Hobbs www.bebioenergy.com Hello Steve What have you noticed comparing the 9% ethanol-SVO (or WVO?) blend with straight SVO (WVO), if anything? Which SVO kit is it (probably a pertinent question)? Anyway, as long as you (and all) are well aware that, unlike biodiesel use, it's not a well-travelled road and you can't trust the signposts, even more so than with SVO (still the case, though increasingly less so with good two-tank systems). I think Darren emphasizes that with micro-emulsions. An archive search for emulsion will give you some interesting reading, by the way: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuels-biz Best Keith Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.500 / Virus Database: 298 - Release Date: 10/07/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.500 / Virus Database: 298 - Release Date: 10/07/2003 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free shipping on all inkjet cartridge refill kit orders to US Canada. Low prices up to 80% off. We have your brand: HP, Epson, Lexmark more. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5510 http://us.click.yahoo.com/GHXcIA/n.WGAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Emissions of micro emulsions of vegetable oil
Back again. I am intrigued by recent mentions of Green diesel, blends of 75% vegeoil and 25% diesel. Vegeburner (great website by the way) also has quite a commentary on micro emulsions. Emulsions are very simple to make, and are less involved than producing biodiesel, and can be used straight away after blending. I have been using the 9% blended ethanol with vegeoil in my SVO kit (as per ACREVO report)and have been unable to notice any power difference between the emulsion and diesel. I presume there are quite a number of different emulsion blends out there, but has there been research that has studied emissions outputs or wear characteristics of these blends? Steven Hobbs www.bebioenergy.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.500 / Virus Database: 298 - Release Date: 10/07/2003 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Coral Calcium for Greater Health. 1 month supply - $23.95 (1 bottle, 90 tablets, 400mg each with Magnesium Vitamin D) http://www.challengerone.com/t/l.asp?cid=2805lp=calcium2.asp http://us.click.yahoo.com/mcIe3D/v9VGAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
