Re: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers?
Keith, I have not made biodiesel myself, but have researched it a lot. Can you check my figures as to the available heat from the glycerin? Heat capacity of oil ~ 0.5 BTU/lb/F Heat of combustion ~ 12-14 BTU/gal (depending on which oil) Density of water ~ 8lb/gal Density of oil ~ 0.7*water ~ 6lb/gal %yield of glycerin ~ 10% T increase ~ 100F Heating 100lbs of oil 100F = (0.5)*(100lbs)*(100F) = 5,000 BTU Yielding 10lbs of glycerin or ~ 1.66 gal Heat of combustion of 1.66 gal of glycerin = (12)*(1.66) ~ 200,000 BTU According to my estimates you only need to recovery 2.5% of the heat of combustion of the glycerin to preheat the oil. Let me know if anyone has any different values above and I can recalculate. Thanks Andy - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers? Andy Lynn wrote: Doesn't glycerin burn? Couldn't you burn some with a wick in it to provide heat for the biodiesel process? I don't think it will travel up a wick - I tried it without success (biodiesel won't either). As for heating the biodiesel process, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I checked this out a while back and the tidings were that if you managed to harness the full heat of combustion available from that amount of glycerine, there might just be enough to heat up the WVO from 20 deg C to 25, rather doubtful though, probably more like 21. There just isn't enough of it. :-( Best wishes Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/uetFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers?
It has been suggested that since it is a sugar ... er. alcohol er somewhere in between, that it would (and does) make an excellent fuel for biological processes... I was wondering if it might not be a suitable additive to yeasts used to make ethanol, or as a feedstock for diesel producing algae On Wed, 14 May 2003 12:07 am, Andy Lynn wrote: Doesn't glycerin burn? Couldn't you burn some with a wick in it to provide heat for the biodiesel process? -- Dr Paul van den Bergen Centre for Advanced Internet Architectures caia.swin.edu.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM:bulwynkl2002 And some run up hill and down dale, knapping the chucky stones to pieces wi' hammers, like so many road makers run daft. They say it is to see how the world was made. Sir Walter Scott, St. Ronan's Well 1824 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Rent DVDs Online - Over 14,500 titles. No Late Fees Free Shipping. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/YoVfrB/XP.FAA/uetFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers?
Doesn't glycerin burn? Couldn't you burn some with a wick in it to provide heat for the biodiesel process? - Original Message - From: girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 8:28 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers? I don't know aobut Canada, but I've checked in the US and it's dismal. You're better off composting it or using it as soap. The renderers here want a railcar worth before they're interested in buying it. mark --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, brent3369 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone in Western Canada that will buy the glycerin I get from my diesel? Brent Sask. Canada Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Rent DVDs Online - Over 14,500 titles. No Late Fees Free Shipping. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/YoVfrB/XP.FAA/uetFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers?
Hmmm . . . OK, a company called Crown Ironworks say the 99.5% purity glycerol has a value of betwee $0.70 and $0.85 USD per LB. Mark = Mark Schofield M.Sc B.Eng DHE AMIMechE t 07944 401662 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] Autogas Conversions and LPG Pumps __ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Rent DVDs Online - Over 14,500 titles. No Late Fees Free Shipping. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/YoVfrB/XP.FAA/uetFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers?
Andy Lynn wrote: Doesn't glycerin burn? Couldn't you burn some with a wick in it to provide heat for the biodiesel process? I don't think it will travel up a wick - I tried it without success (biodiesel won't either). As for heating the biodiesel process, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I checked this out a while back and the tidings were that if you managed to harness the full heat of combustion available from that amount of glycerine, there might just be enough to heat up the WVO from 20 deg C to 25, rather doubtful though, probably more like 21. There just isn't enough of it. :-( Best wishes Keith - Original Message - From: girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 8:28 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers? I don't know aobut Canada, but I've checked in the US and it's dismal. You're better off composting it or using it as soap. The renderers here want a railcar worth before they're interested in buying it. mark --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, brent3369 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone in Western Canada that will buy the glycerin I get from my diesel? Brent Sask. Canada Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Rent DVDs from home. Over 14,500 titles. Free Shipping No Late Fees. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/BVVfoB/hP.FAA/uetFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers?
At those prices, you'd be better off spending a little time making your own soap. At the very least you wouldn't have to buy soap, and at best you could sell it for a couple dollars a bar if you added fragrance and tied a ribbon around it. -BRAH -Original Message- From: mark schofield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:50 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers? Hmmm . . . OK, a company called Crown Ironworks say the 99.5% purity glycerol has a value of betwee $0.70 and $0.85 USD per LB. Mark = Mark Schofield M.Sc B.Eng DHE AMIMechE t 07944 401662 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] Autogas Conversions and LPG Pumps __ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT http://rd.yahoo.com/M=253844.3292508.4586278.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705 083269:HM/A=1284714/R=0/*https:/ecom.yahoo.com/dir/express/intro http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=253844.3292508.4586278.1261774/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A=1284714/rand=901176025 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Rent DVDs Online - Over 14,500 titles. No Late Fees Free Shipping. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/YoVfrB/XP.FAA/uetFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers?
What about in a Turk Burner? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 12:22 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers? Andy Lynn wrote: Doesn't glycerin burn? Couldn't you burn some with a wick in it to provide heat for the biodiesel process? I don't think it will travel up a wick - I tried it without success (biodiesel won't either). As for heating the biodiesel process, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I checked this out a while back and the tidings were that if you managed to harness the full heat of combustion available from that amount of glycerine, there might just be enough to heat up the WVO from 20 deg C to 25, rather doubtful though, probably more like 21. There just isn't enough of it. :-( Best wishes Keith - Original Message - From: girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 8:28 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers? I don't know aobut Canada, but I've checked in the US and it's dismal. You're better off composting it or using it as soap. The renderers here want a railcar worth before they're interested in buying it. mark --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, brent3369 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone in Western Canada that will buy the glycerin I get from my diesel? Brent Sask. Canada Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Rent DVDs Online - Over 14,500 titles. No Late Fees Free Shipping. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/YoVfrB/XP.FAA/uetFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: glycerin buyers?
Hi Glycerine is a hydrocarbon fuel but before doing so read the article on Journey to forever about making a suitable stove. Mark __ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Rent DVDs from home. Over 14,500 titles. Free Shipping No Late Fees. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/BVVfoB/hP.FAA/uetFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
