Re: [biofuel] Bottom of the Barrel

2003-12-09 Thread milliontc

 I wonder if anyone knows how many barrels of oil it takes to produce 1 
megawatt hour of electricity?
Thanks in anticipation
James


Re: [biofuel] Bottom of the Barrel

2003-12-09 Thread milliontc

 I wonder if anyone knows how many barrels of oil it takes to produce 1 
megawatt hour of electricity?
Thanks in anticipation
James

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Re: [biofuel] Bottom of the Barrel

2003-12-09 Thread Friedrich Friesinger

Hi James,
my Generator uses 24 liters per hour,producing 80 to100 kva.
the rest is simple Mathematics
Greedings from Qubec
Fritz
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  I wonder if anyone knows how many barrels of oil it takes to produce 1 
  megawatt hour of electricity?
  Thanks in anticipation
  James

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Re: [biofuel] Bottom of the Barrel

2003-12-09 Thread Appal Energy

~5,823,000 btu per barrel of imported crude

~6,287,000 btu per barrel of residual fuel oil

~10,720 btu/kWh when converting residual fuel oil to electricity.

These are numbers from an old American Petroleum Institute doc, circa 1994.
Efficiencies have probably improved somewhat for new generation facilities.
Yet there are numerous residual fuel oil facilities still on-line that were
built thirty years ago. Efficiencies may have improved there as well... or
not.

Todd Swearingen


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Re: [biofuel] Bottom of the Barrel

2003-12-09 Thread milliontc

 
~5,823,000 btu per barrel of imported crude

~6,287,000 btu per barrel of residual fuel oil

~10,720 btu/kWh when converting residual fuel oil to electricity.
 
Thanks very much.
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Re: [biofuel] Bottom of the Barrel

2003-12-06 Thread Keith Addison

On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 11:10  AM, Keith Addison wrote:

  Bottom of the Barrel
  The World is Running out of Oil - So why do Politicians
  Refuse toTalk About It?
 
  by George Monbiot
 
 
  Every generation has its taboo, and ours is this: that the
  resource upon which our lives have been built is running
  out. We don't talk about it because we cannot imagine it.
  This is a civilization in denial.
 


Great article -- if I were inclined to prognosticate, I'd bet on
nuclear used to make hydrogen.  Won't be without its own
major disruptions, and won't last very long, hopefully, but
could buy a little time (for some serious self-examination
on a global scale) without meanwhile turning Earth into
another Venus.

And if we're really lucky, we won't turn into another
Moon, either!...:-)   -K

Yes... but, for instance (etc etc etc):

http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/22994/story.htm

Clean-up funds too low at 42 US nuke plants - GAO

USA: December 3, 2003

WASHINGTON - Exelon Corp. (EXC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) , the 
Tennessee Valley Authority and other energy firms that own 42 U.S. 
nuclear power plants aren't setting aside enough money to pay for 
cleaning up the sites when their government licenses eventually 
expire, congressional investigators said on Monday.

While the collective status of the decommissioning accounts for the 
country's nuclear power plants has improved in recent years, the 
General Accounting Office said some individual plant owners are not 
on track to have sufficient shut-down funds.

The worst offenders are Exelon and the government-owned Tennessee 
Valley Authority (TVA), said the GAO, which is the investigative arm 
of Congress.

The trust funds for 11 of Exelon's 20 nuclear power plants and all 
six of TVA's plants are either below the benchmark or have too low a 
contribution rate to be fully funded by the time decommissioning 
takes place, the agency said.

Nine other owners have insufficient trust funds for two or more of 
their nuclear plants, and 29 are lagging on trust funds for a single 
plant, according to the GAO.

Under our most likely assumptions, these owners will have to 
increase the rates at which they accumulate funds to meet their 
future decommissioning obligations, the agency said.

After the shutdown of a nuclear power plant and the removal of spent 
fuel, a nuclear facility remains a significant hazard until all 
radioactive materials are removed and the site is fully 
decommissioned.

In order to clean up the plants when are eventually retired, utility 
owners are required to pay into decommissioning trust funds over the 
lifetime of their plants.

The plants with the poorest decommissioning funds include Browns 
Ferry 1, 2 and 3 (Alabama); Dresden 1 (Illinois); Duane Arnold 
(Iowa); Indian Point 1 (New York); Peach Bottom 1 (Pennsylvania); 
Rancho Seco (California); and Zion 1 and 2 (Illinois).

Six of these 10 plants have already permanently shut down but are 
still awaiting full cleanup, according to Democratic Rep. Edward 
Markey of Massachusetts. Markey requested the GAO report and is one 
of the strongest nuclear industry critics in Congress.

This report should open the eyes of the American people to the 
irresponsibility of many nuclear plant owners, said Markey. While 
happily pocketing their profits today, many plant owners are shirking 
their duty to save for tomorrow.

Markey warned that if utilities do not set aside enough money, 
taxpayers may get stuck with billions of dollars in clean-up costs. 
The Nuclear Energy Institute, the industry's main trade group, said 
many of the utilities invest their decommissioning funds in the stock 
market and the GAO report reviewed the status of those funds during 
the year 2000, when there was a downturn in the market.

It's not surprising that there may be some individual firms who may 
not be where they want to be with their decommissioning funds, said 
a spokesman for the trade group.

Many of the plant owners are seeking 20-year extensions on the 
original 40-year licenses for their facilities, which will give the 
firms more time to come up with the decommissioning funds that will 
be needed, the NEI spokesman added.

Government regulations limit commercial nuclear power plant licenses 
to an initial 40 years of operation, but licenses can be renewed for 
another 20 years if the plant can be operated safely over the 
extended period.

Of the 125 nuclear power plants that have been licensed in the United 
States since 1969, three have been completely decommissioned.

Of the remaining 122 plants, 104 have operating licenses and 18 
plants have been shut down but not fully cleaned up.

Story by Tom Doggett

REUTERS NEWS SERVICE


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Re: [biofuel] Bottom of the Barrel

2003-12-05 Thread Ken Provost


On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 11:10  AM, Keith Addison wrote:

 Bottom of the Barrel
 The World is Running out of Oil - So why do Politicians
 Refuse toTalk About It?

 by George Monbiot


 Every generation has its taboo, and ours is this: that the
 resource upon which our lives have been built is running
 out. We don't talk about it because we cannot imagine it.
 This is a civilization in denial.



Great article -- if I were inclined to prognosticate, I'd bet on
nuclear used to make hydrogen.  Won't be without its own
major disruptions, and won't last very long, hopefully, but
could buy a little time (for some serious self-examination
on a global scale) without meanwhile turning Earth into
another Venus.

And if we're really lucky, we won't turn into another
Moon, either!...:-)   -K


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