Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog
Hi they from Mercedes-Benz but they are assembled on a contract basis by PUCH in Austria. Have seen them often they ok but the Hummer (got one) is better as long as it fits in with.. So your Hummers must have been stuck in the Forest between the trees.. (or in a German Town as noted...) Urs - Original Message - From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:41 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog Graz. Austria. From: Ken Basterfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:49:13 + To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog I have Viennese friends who proudly claim the GWagen as Austrian built. I have a friend with one so I will lift the bonnet to see the manufacturer's plate. Thanks - Original Message - From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: 09 December 2001 18:40 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog The Gelaendewagen is produced by Mercedes-Benz. http://www.gwagen.com at $135k, I'll pass. Are you thinking of the Pinzgauer (Steyer Daimler Puch )? http://www.users.qwest.net/~zandersson/pinzfaq.html Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ken Basterfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog Am I confused? re 'Mercedes' G Wagen. I had always thought the G Wagen was made in Austria by Daimler Steyer Puch. ken - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: 09 December 2001 04:29 Subject: [biofuel] Re: Unimog Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Unimog's overkill for you try the Mercedes G-Wagen. The US military's using them now because the Hummers get stuck and the G-Wagens don't. Do you have any links to support that? http://www.g4rce.net/engl/models-mil-ifav.html g4rce - or all about the Mercedes G. Keith In my 3 years experience with military Hummers we only got one of them stuck twice. Once while driving through a little German town because it was too wide to negotiate one of the turns, and another time when one of our medics high-centered one and lifted two of the wheels off of the ground. From my experience you really have to try to get a Hummer stuck. And even then they come equipped with a pioneer kit and a 10 ton winch to help them get unstuck. Alan Petrillo Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Stop Smoking Now Nicotrol will help http://us.click.yahoo.com/2vN8tD/_pSDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~ - Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Need new boots for winter? Looking for a perfect gift for your shoe loving friends? Zappos.com is the perfect fit for all your shoe needs! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ltdUpD/QrSDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send
Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog
Keith, thanks ken - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: 10 December 2001 03:32 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog Am I confused? re 'Mercedes' G Wagen. I had always thought the G Wagen was made in Austria by Daimler Steyer Puch. ken Hi Ken The Mercedes Gelaendewagen (cross-country car), or G-wagen, went into production in 1979, following five years of development by Mercedes and Steyr-Daimler-Puch (50-50 joint-venture). It's undergone continuous development since then and is still very much in production, with Mercedes guaranteeing production for NATO up to 2025. See: http://www.g4rce.net/engl/history1.html Steyr-Daimler-Puch was making them for the Eastern Bloc countries, I'm not sure if they're still involved. They still make the Pinzgauer though, which the UK armed forces have bought instead of the Land Rover, but there have been rumours they'll cease production soon. Mercedes recently launched three versions of the G in the US market, not including a diesel model apparently, nor the basic workhorse version, the 461. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/75YKVC/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog
I have Viennese friends who proudly claim the GWagen as Austrian built. I have a friend with one so I will lift the bonnet to see the manufacturer's plate. Thanks - Original Message - From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: 09 December 2001 18:40 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog The Gelaendewagen is produced by Mercedes-Benz. http://www.gwagen.com at $135k, I'll pass. Are you thinking of the Pinzgauer (Steyer Daimler Puch )? http://www.users.qwest.net/~zandersson/pinzfaq.html Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ken Basterfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog Am I confused? re 'Mercedes' G Wagen. I had always thought the G Wagen was made in Austria by Daimler Steyer Puch. ken - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: 09 December 2001 04:29 Subject: [biofuel] Re: Unimog Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Unimog's overkill for you try the Mercedes G-Wagen. The US military's using them now because the Hummers get stuck and the G-Wagens don't. Do you have any links to support that? http://www.g4rce.net/engl/models-mil-ifav.html g4rce - or all about the Mercedes G. Keith In my 3 years experience with military Hummers we only got one of them stuck twice. Once while driving through a little German town because it was too wide to negotiate one of the turns, and another time when one of our medics high-centered one and lifted two of the wheels off of the ground. From my experience you really have to try to get a Hummer stuck. And even then they come equipped with a pioneer kit and a 10 ton winch to help them get unstuck. Alan Petrillo Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/75YKVC/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog
Graz. Austria. From: Ken Basterfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:49:13 + To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog I have Viennese friends who proudly claim the GWagen as Austrian built. I have a friend with one so I will lift the bonnet to see the manufacturer's plate. Thanks - Original Message - From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: 09 December 2001 18:40 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog The Gelaendewagen is produced by Mercedes-Benz. http://www.gwagen.com at $135k, I'll pass. Are you thinking of the Pinzgauer (Steyer Daimler Puch )? http://www.users.qwest.net/~zandersson/pinzfaq.html Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ken Basterfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog Am I confused? re 'Mercedes' G Wagen. I had always thought the G Wagen was made in Austria by Daimler Steyer Puch. ken - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: 09 December 2001 04:29 Subject: [biofuel] Re: Unimog Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Unimog's overkill for you try the Mercedes G-Wagen. The US military's using them now because the Hummers get stuck and the G-Wagens don't. Do you have any links to support that? http://www.g4rce.net/engl/models-mil-ifav.html g4rce - or all about the Mercedes G. Keith In my 3 years experience with military Hummers we only got one of them stuck twice. Once while driving through a little German town because it was too wide to negotiate one of the turns, and another time when one of our medics high-centered one and lifted two of the wheels off of the ground. From my experience you really have to try to get a Hummer stuck. And even then they come equipped with a pioneer kit and a 10 ton winch to help them get unstuck. Alan Petrillo Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Stop Smoking Now Nicotrol will help http://us.click.yahoo.com/2vN8tD/_pSDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog
Am I confused? re 'Mercedes' G Wagen. I had always thought the G Wagen was made in Austria by Daimler Steyer Puch. ken - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: 09 December 2001 04:29 Subject: [biofuel] Re: Unimog Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Unimog's overkill for you try the Mercedes G-Wagen. The US military's using them now because the Hummers get stuck and the G-Wagens don't. Do you have any links to support that? http://www.g4rce.net/engl/models-mil-ifav.html g4rce - or all about the Mercedes G. Keith In my 3 years experience with military Hummers we only got one of them stuck twice. Once while driving through a little German town because it was too wide to negotiate one of the turns, and another time when one of our medics high-centered one and lifted two of the wheels off of the ground. From my experience you really have to try to get a Hummer stuck. And even then they come equipped with a pioneer kit and a 10 ton winch to help them get unstuck. Alan Petrillo Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Quit now for Great American Smokeout http://us.click.yahoo.com/0vN8tD/9pSDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog
The Gelaendewagen is produced by Mercedes-Benz. http://www.gwagen.com at $135k, I'll pass. Are you thinking of the Pinzgauer (Steyer Daimler Puch )? http://www.users.qwest.net/~zandersson/pinzfaq.html Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ken Basterfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog Am I confused? re 'Mercedes' G Wagen. I had always thought the G Wagen was made in Austria by Daimler Steyer Puch. ken - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: 09 December 2001 04:29 Subject: [biofuel] Re: Unimog Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Unimog's overkill for you try the Mercedes G-Wagen. The US military's using them now because the Hummers get stuck and the G-Wagens don't. Do you have any links to support that? http://www.g4rce.net/engl/models-mil-ifav.html g4rce - or all about the Mercedes G. Keith In my 3 years experience with military Hummers we only got one of them stuck twice. Once while driving through a little German town because it was too wide to negotiate one of the turns, and another time when one of our medics high-centered one and lifted two of the wheels off of the ground. From my experience you really have to try to get a Hummer stuck. And even then they come equipped with a pioneer kit and a 10 ton winch to help them get unstuck. Alan Petrillo Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog
Am I confused? re 'Mercedes' G Wagen. I had always thought the G Wagen was made in Austria by Daimler Steyer Puch. ken Hi Ken The Mercedes Gelaendewagen (cross-country car), or G-wagen, went into production in 1979, following five years of development by Mercedes and Steyr-Daimler-Puch (50-50 joint-venture). It's undergone continuous development since then and is still very much in production, with Mercedes guaranteeing production for NATO up to 2025. See: http://www.g4rce.net/engl/history1.html Steyr-Daimler-Puch was making them for the Eastern Bloc countries, I'm not sure if they're still involved. They still make the Pinzgauer though, which the UK armed forces have bought instead of the Land Rover, but there have been rumours they'll cease production soon. Mercedes recently launched three versions of the G in the US market, not including a diesel model apparently, nor the basic workhorse version, the 461. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Promise to Quit Nicotrol will help http://us.click.yahoo.com/5vN8tD/AqSDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog
- Original Message - From: steve spence Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 16:31 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog I know that the unimog can climb a 24 vertical obstruction from a standing start butted up against said object. The Hummer can't. You can also get 2-3 Uni's (new) for the price of a hummer. With front and rear PTO's, they are an interesting option. Were are you looking? The ones I've seen are almost as much as a hummer. Greg H. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Quit now for Great American Smokeout http://us.click.yahoo.com/0vN8tD/9pSDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Unimog
I know that the unimog can climb a 24 vertical obstruction from a standing start butted up against said object. The Hummer can't. You can also get 2-3 Uni's (new) for the price of a hummer. With front and rear PTO's, they are an interesting option. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Alan S. Petrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 3:31 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Unimog Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Unimog's overkill for you try the Mercedes G-Wagen. The US military's using them now because the Hummers get stuck and the G-Wagens don't. Do you have any links to support that? In my 3 years experience with military Hummers we only got one of them stuck twice. Once while driving through a little German town because it was too wide to negotiate one of the turns, and another time when one of our medics high-centered one and lifted two of the wheels off of the ground. From my experience you really have to try to get a Hummer stuck. And even then they come equipped with a pioneer kit and a 10 ton winch to help them get unstuck. Alan Petrillo -- Aviation is more than a hobby. It is more than a job. It is more than a career. Aviation is a way of life. A second language for the world: www.esperanto.com Processor cycles are a terrible thing to waste: www.distributed.net Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Promise to Quit Nicotrol will help http://us.click.yahoo.com/5vN8tD/AqSDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
