Re: [biofuel] compost septics
Greenhouse problems, heat in summer you can use shade cloth over the greenhouse or shade compound on outside of glazing. Will keep greenhouse 10-15 degrees cooler. In winter, use double glazing, insulation below benchs, if axis is east west- insulate north, east, and west walls, also north roof. There are many books on solar greenhouses that you can look into at the library or book store. Also you can use large contaners full of water under the benche to moderate the heat. Hope this helps. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harmon Seaver wrote Yes, if you look in the city gardening especially the container gardening pages of journeytoforever, you'll find a wealth of info on truly viable gardening in tiny spaces. I'm playing around with the concept found at http://journeytoforever.org/garden_con-mexico.html this year. We have a very tiny lot here in the city, occupied almost totally by a large house. I built a greenhouse on top of the 10'x20' brick garage, replaced the garage door with glass french doors (which face East) and converted the last half of the driveway (which is just two concrete strips running along the South side of the house) into a tiny herb garden. We dug the dirt out in the center down to two feet to get rid of the decades of oil drippings and filled it with clean topsoil and compost. Ê ÊÊ The problem with the greenhouse is it just gets much too hot in the Summer and not hot enough in the Winter, problems I'm working on, but also we want to start using some of the large porch roof space for container gardening. The ideas in the above site seem ideal, as they are using very little dirt (greatly reducing weight) in the containers, mostly leaves and grass clippings, human urine and worm castings. , [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] compost septics
Hi, I tried to send this yesterday, but my computer told me it was too hot to work. I'm a city guy these days, but when I retire to the boondocks I'll be composting and using a septic tank, so I'm trying to learn about it ahead of time. If you are going to be composting, why do you want a septic? If you have more than 5 acres, it is nice to have facilities spread out around the land, so compost toilets wind up being installed anyway. If I had known about humanure and composting toilets, when I moved to the country, I would have saved $5000. Something to think about. Kim Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] compost septics
Hi, Thought let you know all that worm composting even if you live in urban area may be a good altarnative. Since most of the people here are concrened about enviroment this is another env friendly. I have started worm compost in my patio for all the kitchen waste using 10 gallons of rubber maid bins. This is an OSCR design based bins. I live in an apt and don't have any plants. You can visit www.wormdigest.org to start with. Best Regards, Suri. --- Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I tried to send this yesterday, but my computer told me it was too hot to work. I'm a city guy these days, but when I retire to the boondocks I'll be composting and using a septic tank, so I'm trying to learn about it ahead of time. If you are going to be composting, why do you want a septic? If you have more than 5 acres, it is nice to have facilities spread out around the land, so compost toilets wind up being installed anyway. If I had known about humanure and composting toilets, when I moved to the country, I would have saved $5000. Something to think about. Kim __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] compost septics
Yes, if you look in the city gardening especially the container gardening pages of journeytoforever, you'll find a wealth of info on truly viable gardening in tiny spaces. I'm playing around with the concept found at http://journeytoforever.org/garden_con-mexico.html this year. We have a very tiny lot here in the city, occupied almost totally by a large house. I built a greenhouse on top of the 10'x20' brick garage, replaced the garage door with glass french doors (which face East) and converted the last half of the driveway (which is just two concrete strips running along the South side of the house) into a tiny herb garden. We dug the dirt out in the center down to two feet to get rid of the decades of oil drippings and filled it with clean topsoil and compost. The problem with the greenhouse is it just gets much too hot in the Summer and not hot enough in the Winter, problems I'm working on, but also we want to start using some of the large porch roof space for container gardening. The ideas in the above site seem ideal, as they are using very little dirt (greatly reducing weight) in the containers, mostly leaves and grass clippings, human urine and worm castings. Sureshbabu B wrote: Hi, Thought let you know all that worm composting even if you live in urban area may be a good altarnative. Since most of the people here are concrened about enviroment this is another env friendly. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] compost septics
Harmon wrote: Yes, if you look in the city gardening especially the container gardening pages of journeytoforever, you'll find a wealth of info on truly viable gardening in tiny spaces. I'm playing around with the concept found at http://journeytoforever.org/garden_con-mexico.html this year. We have a very tiny lot here in the city, occupied almost totally by a large house. I built a greenhouse on top of the 10'x20' brick garage, replaced the garage door with glass french doors (which face East) and converted the last half of the driveway (which is just two concrete strips running along the South side of the house) into a tiny herb garden. We dug the dirt out in the center down to two feet to get rid of the decades of oil drippings and filled it with clean topsoil and compost. The problem with the greenhouse is it just gets much too hot in the Summer and not hot enough in the Winter, problems I'm working on, but also we want to start using some of the large porch roof space for container gardening. The ideas in the above site seem ideal, as they are using very little dirt (greatly reducing weight) in the containers, mostly leaves and grass clippings, human urine and worm castings. More on worm composting here: http://journeytoforever.org/compost_worm.html Vermicomposting And on composting: http://journeytoforever.org/compost.html Composting Regards Keith Sureshbabu B wrote: Hi, Thought let you know all that worm composting even if you live in urban area may be a good altarnative. Since most of the people here are concrened about enviroment this is another env friendly. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
