Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost
Hello, Jonathan, I have seen this done in the cities of Kano and Lagos. In Kano, the farmer use donkeys with a bag on rach side of to pack. There many who live mainly to supply vegetable farmers such compost using donkeys to carry it. In mynown practiser as a farmer, i have sometime have stubble left own its own changing into compost too. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:51:16 -0800 (PST) Hey! What part of Africa? What Country??? Jonathan addy abslew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HELLO, AAL OUT THERE, This is just what happens in city rubbish piles here in Africa where farmers go to pack compost soil from under. Nobody turns the piles and everyday there is compost fot the urban farmers. But i want to do composting of mainly sawdust and much less farm stubbles in a really fast way. I have read of a stock made out of cassava by a now late farmer in Asia. This stock speeds up compostimg. Any one who can tell how to make this stock and use it in composting? Thanks to all you guys who care to give answers. - Original Message - From: Gustl Steiner-Zehender To: Keith Addison Subject: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:47:59 -0500 Hallo Keith, We're sort of passive aerobic here. We just keep piling stuff on the top and taking what we need from the bottom. Never turn it and never water it and we have always had plenty for our needs. It probably takes longer this way but it suits our needs. Happy Happy, Gustl Wednesday, 24 November, 2004, 08:31:59, you wrote: Hi, To speed up the decomposition, you have to add some water and turn the material once a day to introduce oxygen. KA Certainly no need to turn once a day, if ever. It needs water, yes, KA but not too much water or it will go anaerobic, very difficult to KA recover - that's probably the most common reason for failure. Water KA content should be about 60-65%, overall carbon/nitrogen ratio should KA be 25-30:1, and it needs plenty of air. Surface area is important - KA the greater the surface area of the materials, ie the smaller the KA bits are, the easier it is for the microorganisms to attack them, BUT KA the smaller the bits are the less the aeration through the heap. -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ -- ___ Get your free email from www.doramail.com with 30 Megs of disk space in webhosting and e-mail storage! Powered by Outblaze ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ J.J.A.M., Inc. Jonathan Lynden Dunlap IS Network Systems Analyst Your PC Linux Specialist P.O. Box 4209 Inglewood, California 90309-4209 323-779-2752/Home - Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ -- ___ Get your free email from www.doramail.com with 30 Megs of disk space in webhosting and e-mail storage! Powered by Outblaze ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
Re[2]: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost (new technique)
Hallo Keith, Friday, 26 November, 2004, 11:10:25, you wrote: ...snip... KA Wrong! NOT goats! DON'T let goats into a forest! Goats are if KA anything fertility destroyers, not fertility builders. They'd KA probably get rid of your trees one way or another, but perhaps not in KA a way you'd like. ...snip... You are absolutely correct. Sheep are grazers and goats are browsers. If you have a brushy area you want cleaned up get goats but if you have grass you want cleaned up get sheep. Happy Happy, Gustl -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost
HELLO, AAL OUT THERE, This is just what happens in city rubbish piles here in Africa where farmers go to pack compost soil from under. Nobody turns the piles and everyday there is compost fot the urban farmers. But i want to do composting of mainly sawdust and much less farm stubbles in a really fast way. I have read of a stock made out of cassava by a now late farmer in Asia. This stock speeds up compostimg. Any one who can tell how to make this stock and use it in composting? Thanks to all you guys who care to give answers. - Original Message - From: Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:47:59 -0500 Hallo Keith, We're sort of passive aerobic here. We just keep piling stuff on the top and taking what we need from the bottom. Never turn it and never water it and we have always had plenty for our needs. It probably takes longer this way but it suits our needs. Happy Happy, Gustl Wednesday, 24 November, 2004, 08:31:59, you wrote: Hi, To speed up the decomposition, you have to add some water and turn the material once a day to introduce oxygen. KA Certainly no need to turn once a day, if ever. It needs water, yes, KA but not too much water or it will go anaerobic, very difficult to KA recover - that's probably the most common reason for failure. Water KA content should be about 60-65%, overall carbon/nitrogen ratio should KA be 25-30:1, and it needs plenty of air. Surface area is important - KA the greater the surface area of the materials, ie the smaller the KA bits are, the easier it is for the microorganisms to attack them, BUT KA the smaller the bits are the less the aeration through the heap. -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ -- ___ Get your free email from www.doramail.com with 30 Megs of disk space in webhosting and e-mail storage! Powered by Outblaze ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost
Hey! What part of Africa? What Country??? Jonathan addy abslew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HELLO, AAL OUT THERE, This is just what happens in city rubbish piles here in Africa where farmers go to pack compost soil from under. Nobody turns the piles and everyday there is compost fot the urban farmers. But i want to do composting of mainly sawdust and much less farm stubbles in a really fast way. I have read of a stock made out of cassava by a now late farmer in Asia. This stock speeds up compostimg. Any one who can tell how to make this stock and use it in composting? Thanks to all you guys who care to give answers. - Original Message - From: Gustl Steiner-Zehender To: Keith Addison Subject: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:47:59 -0500 Hallo Keith, We're sort of passive aerobic here. We just keep piling stuff on the top and taking what we need from the bottom. Never turn it and never water it and we have always had plenty for our needs. It probably takes longer this way but it suits our needs. Happy Happy, Gustl Wednesday, 24 November, 2004, 08:31:59, you wrote: Hi, To speed up the decomposition, you have to add some water and turn the material once a day to introduce oxygen. KA Certainly no need to turn once a day, if ever. It needs water, yes, KA but not too much water or it will go anaerobic, very difficult to KA recover - that's probably the most common reason for failure. Water KA content should be about 60-65%, overall carbon/nitrogen ratio should KA be 25-30:1, and it needs plenty of air. Surface area is important - KA the greater the surface area of the materials, ie the smaller the KA bits are, the easier it is for the microorganisms to attack them, BUT KA the smaller the bits are the less the aeration through the heap. -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straße liegen, daß sie gerade deshalb von der gewöhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ -- ___ Get your free email from www.doramail.com with 30 Megs of disk space in webhosting and e-mail storage! Powered by Outblaze ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ J.J.A.M., Inc. Jonathan Lynden Dunlap IS Network Systems Analyst Your PC Linux Specialist P.O. Box 4209 Inglewood, California 90309-4209 323-779-2752/Home - Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re[2]: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost
Hallo Keith, We're sort of passive aerobic here. We just keep piling stuff on the top and taking what we need from the bottom. Never turn it and never water it and we have always had plenty for our needs. It probably takes longer this way but it suits our needs. Happy Happy, Gustl Wednesday, 24 November, 2004, 08:31:59, you wrote: Hi, To speed up the decomposition, you have to add some water and turn the material once a day to introduce oxygen. KA Certainly no need to turn once a day, if ever. It needs water, yes, KA but not too much water or it will go anaerobic, very difficult to KA recover - that's probably the most common reason for failure. Water KA content should be about 60-65%, overall carbon/nitrogen ratio should KA be 25-30:1, and it needs plenty of air. Surface area is important - KA the greater the surface area of the materials, ie the smaller the KA bits are, the easier it is for the microorganisms to attack them, BUT KA the smaller the bits are the less the aeration through the heap. -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
