Re: Kerosene stoves - was Re[2]: [biofuel] Raschig rings
Hello folks, this passage have caught my eye: --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo Keith, Saturday, 26 June, 2004, 23:19:07, you wrote: ...snips throughout... even more snips I have seen them using kerosene refrigerators and freezers though. Now, after reading this, I remembered, that there are thermaly driven refrigerators. And this lead me to the idea: to have a thermally driven air conditioner. It seams perfectly reasonable for homes with the solar in mind, _not_ to do air conditioning through this process: solar--(photovoltaic panel)--electricity--(air conditioner)--cooling but through this process: solar--(thermal collector)--heat--(heat driven AC)--cooling This eliminates the inefficient and costy solar energy conversion into electricity; quite a few houses have thermal panels for water heating already, so this method of AC might also use them... Has anyone here encountered such a beast? PS sorry, a little bit off-topic, but hey, still interesting... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Re[2]: [biofuel] Raschig rings
These stoves... I saw a lot of people in Sierra Leone use kerosene stoves to cook with everyday Something to think about Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hallo Folks, Friday, 25 June, 2004, 17:27:31, you wrote: JD Thanks! All I know is that I have to do something. Fossil is JD nolonger the way... Money for them, yet very bad for OUR Earth! JD Jonathan I downloaded the still.pdf and sent it to Jonathan and while looking at the plans for the thing I came across the boiler section in which they say that the boiler has to be either electric or propane/natural gas. That got me to thinking. The Amish use kerosene stoves. I don't see why a kerosene stove couldn't be used using biodiesel as fuel. Any ideas on this? Happy Happy, Gustl -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. J.J.A.M., Inc. Jonathan Lynden Dunlap IS Network Systems Analyst Your PC Linux Specialist P.O. Box 4209 Inglewood, California 90309-4209 323-779-2752/Home - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Kerosene stoves - was Re[2]: [biofuel] Raschig rings
Hello Gustl Hallo Folks, Friday, 25 June, 2004, 17:27:31, you wrote: JD Thanks! All I know is that I have to do something. Fossil is JD nolonger the way... Money for them, yet very bad for OUR Earth! JD Jonathan I downloaded the still.pdf and sent it to Jonathan and while looking at the plans for the thing I came across the boiler section in which they say that the boiler has to be either electric or propane/natural gas. That got me to thinking. The Amish use kerosene stoves. I don't see why a kerosene stove couldn't be used using biodiesel as fuel. Any ideas on this? Yup - more than just ideas. There's a picture here of a kero doing just that (scroll down to The pre-heating tank): http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html Journey to Forever 90-litre processor It works really well - better than on kerosene, if anything. There's some discussion of it here: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/35611/1 Ok, so you got a fancy dancy stove that uses biodiesel and we are now all drooling, so, do you also have a contact adress/website where we can get one too? Please? Ta! The Amish use pressure stoves like this one don't they Gustl? Would Lehman's stock them? I don't see one at their site: http://www.lehmans.com/ Like this: http://www.lovson.com/lightengineering.html Best wishes Keith Happy Happy, Gustl -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Kerosene stoves - was Re[2]: [biofuel] Raschig rings
Hallo Keith, Saturday, 26 June, 2004, 23:19:07, you wrote: ...snips throughout... That got me to thinking. The Amish use kerosene stoves. I don't see why a kerosene stove couldn't be used using biodiesel as fuel. Any ideas on this? KA Yup - more than just ideas. There's a picture here of a kero doing KA just that (scroll down to The pre-heating tank): KA http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html KA Journey to Forever 90-litre processor KA It works really well - better than on kerosene, if anything. KA There's some discussion of it here: KA http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/35611/1 KA The Amish use pressure stoves like this one don't they Gustl? Would KA Lehman's stock them? I don't see one at their site: KA http://www.lehmans.com/ I have never seen the Amish using pressure stoves of any kind although I have seen them using the pressure lamps for lighting. But in this area we only have Swiss and Old Order Amish and a few Beachy Amish who use electricity, phones and autos. I can't speak as to what the Renno, Nebraska, Swartzentruber or other Amish groups use. I have seen them using kerosene refrigerators and freezers though. The next time I am by my Amish brethren I will ask them about where they get their kerosene stoves. I would almost bet it would be down in Indiana among the Old Order Amish there. It is sometimes difficult to find their stores because they have them often in their homes. My friend Jake Eicher has a store in his home but he doesn't sell such items. He will surely know where to find kerosene stoves. As for kerosene refrigerators...just outside Shipshewana, Indiana there is an Amish fellow who sells reconditioned and used kerosene refrigerators. North side of US20 but I don't remember which farm. I will have to ask Orva Miller. That is a drive though. Next time I head that way I will remember to ask Orva and then report back. KA Like this: KA http://www.lovson.com/lightengineering.html Happy Happy, Gustl -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re[2]: [biofuel] Raschig rings
Hallo Folks, Friday, 25 June, 2004, 17:27:31, you wrote: JD Thanks! All I know is that I have to do something. Fossil is JD nolonger the way... Money for them, yet very bad for OUR Earth! JD Jonathan I downloaded the still.pdf and sent it to Jonathan and while looking at the plans for the thing I came across the boiler section in which they say that the boiler has to be either electric or propane/natural gas. That got me to thinking. The Amish use kerosene stoves. I don't see why a kerosene stove couldn't be used using biodiesel as fuel. Any ideas on this? Happy Happy, Gustl -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
