Re: [svg-developers] FF3.0a2 works great
On 2/13/07 8:32 AM, André M. Winter - Carto.net wrote: i was just testing a map interface with FF2 and was disappointed while unloading a map and reloading another form the local filesystem. it took around 15sec. now FF3 (feb. 8th) does it in around 1sec and this over the web. this is faster than IE6/ASV3. mouse interactions work smooth, pages (also html) load at an amazing speed :-) give it a try with your own files, here you go: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/3.0a2/releasenotes/#download Some information about the SVG capabilities in 3.0a2 are listed in the following URL. Note that a number of SVG applications will have problems due to regressions caused by some tree-wide gecko changes. The good news is that we now have a handle on these issues and have patches in hand to fix them. One thing I forgot to mention in the following is that we now have incremental loading of XML, so you'll see progressive rendering of SVG files as they load. http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/tor/archives/2007/02/gran_paradiso_alpha_2_and_svg.html -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] FF3.0a2 works great
On 2/13/07 2:24 PM, TheMountainScene wrote: In a FF test I've created, a mouseover of Canada 364 Kb, it has improved from 6 seconds to 2 seconds. 2 Seconds is still much too slow compared to the Adobe viewer, but it is an improvement. I submitted this as a bug some time ago. For my purposes, it still falls short, and given the snail's pace anything svg is moving, I see flash in my future. I keep my fingers crossed, but my optimism wanes with each passing day. Assuming you're talking about the Canada map in bug 319990, the version you have online right now has a JS error. Correcting that, removing the alert, and moving in/out right near the border (which defeats our early-reject hit detection), the major hotspots in the profile all appear inside the cairo 2D graphics library: 57.20% checking if a point is inside the path 99.7% of this time is spent tesselating the path to trapezoids 14.83% painting paths 99% of this time is spent tesselating the path to trapezoids 14.51% getting screen path extent 99.9% of this time is spend tesselating the path to trapezoids The reason this appears in the profile is because the style change information Gecko gives us is a general things changed rather than detail which would let us realize that only the fill changed and the extent didn't need to be recalculated. It seems that if cairo improved their point-in-path functionality using one of the techniques that doesn't need a whole trapezoid list, things would be a fair bit faster. Changing the style system to give detailed information is a larger scope item, though maybe something gecko would want to do as it could help other sorts of content. It does seem as though this map is a bit of a torture case for cairo's tesselator - I've passed on the URL to the cairo developers. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] FF3.0a2 works great
On 2/13/07 3:37 PM, T Rowley wrote: Changing the style system to give detailed information is a larger scope item, though maybe something gecko would want to do as it could help other sorts of content. Correction - gecko does have a mechanism for splitting style information into repaint/reflow, SVG just isn't using it yet. The fun of depreciated APIs floating around... -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] FF3.0a2 works great
On 2/13/07 2:58 PM, Guy Morton wrote: I wish I could report the same happy news. Unfortunately, GranParadiso (on MacOSX at least) fails to render *anything* for me. It even seems buggy in doing normalish browser things like resizing framesets (the toolbar has half disappeared under the window title in my testing). Have a look at http://bct2.webtrak-lochard.com/ and see. It's not generating anything in the error logs that gives any indication of what it might be taking exception to either. This appears to be one of the SVG applications having a regression of the onload behavior. It is fixed in my local tree which contains the patch from bug 370210. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] FF3.0a2 works great
On 2/13/07 3:41 PM, Guy Morton wrote: Aha...well that's the problem for me. I resized the window and it appeared. Good to know you know what is causing it. And I'll add my Wow to Andre's...FF used to use 70% of my CPU playing this file. Now it's using about 7%. In your case, this is probably largely due to the background image you're using and changes in how we implement svg:image internally. There are some screen redrawing issues though still, which you'll see if you look at the link I sent (the planes are leaving translucent colour over the map). I don't see redraw problems on linux here. If you could send me a screenshot I can look into the problem a bit. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: WPF/E Goes Beta Community preview available for download
On 12/6/06 10:36 AM, Jeff Schiller wrote: I think I've asked before, but couldn't find my post when searching: What would be the challenge in taking the Mozilla codebase and turning that into an ActiveX control for IE that handles XHTML and SVG content? IE6 and 7 both don't support either MIME types, so this would allow XHTML with SVG inline as well as SVG linked by reference (HTML:object). Get that deployed far enough and you could actually see XHTML and SVG start to make inroads into the web. Granted, it's still a plugin, but at least it couldn't be killed by a corporation's whim. Mozilla as an ActiveX control already exists: http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/control.htm You'd still be stuck with the click-to-active behavior of plugins in IE. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] FF2 text-anchor bug?
On 11/14/2006 8:38 PM, Doug Schepers wrote: Not to speak for Tim, but I think he was asking for an minimal test case, not a full application where the error was occurring. Right, as I mentioned in my email to to Guy, I've done some preliminary investigation, but haven't gotten around to reducing your application into a reasonable testcase for debugging purposes yet. If you have anything smaller that exhibits the same bug, it'll greatly accelerate the process of fixing this. Thanks. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] FF2 text-anchor bug?
On 11/8/06 6:11 PM, Guy Morton wrote: It seems in FF2 on Windows that all my text elements that use text- anchor=middle are now positioned incorrectly. FF2 on Mac doesn't show the problem (though it has other text bugs) Anyone know anything about this? Anyone at Mozilla working on it? It is a MAJOR pain. In fact, FF2 on windows only seems to have gotten worse for SVG, not better, which is disappointing. Do you have a testcase? FF2 on win32 displays the w3c svg testcases using anchor=middle (text-align-01-b, text-align-03-b, and text-align-04-b) fine here. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG performance
On 11/6/06 1:58 PM, brucerindahl wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, T Rowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are certainly known areas where things will be slow. Also keep in mind that I haven't seriously used the SVG code shipped in Firefox 1.5 and 2.0 for over a year now. The trunk code I work with has different performance characteristics. In general does this mean that bugs should only be reported against Minefield? The performance on windows is definitely better in Minefield by the way - thanks. We'll look at bugs for both, but we're much more conservative about what will go into the 2.0.x releases. Security and crash fixes are easy to get in, but others will involve benefit/risk judgment. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG performance
On 11/4/06 4:30 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote: and I am pretty sure that it has to do with the X server configuration. The main developer, Tim Rowley develops on Linux and he says that he doesn't experience these performance problems. I don't think I've ever said I don't see performance problems - there are certainly known areas where things will be slow. Also keep in mind that I haven't seriously used the SVG code shipped in Firefox 1.5 and 2.0 for over a year now. The trunk code I work with has different performance characteristics. I, you and several others seem to have these issues, so I am pretty sure there are some hidden XServer settings that we should be able to set. Its a problem for me as well. FirefoxSVG on Linux is currently unusable for me, but Opera9 and Apache Batik work well under Linux. Firefox on Windows works at reasonable speed, yes it could be faster, but its usable for the majority of applications. There aren't hidden XServer settings, unless your distribution has for some reason set up your server with no hardware acceleration at all, which you'd notice in all platforms. Cairo can accelerate some operations using the RENDER extension, but unfortunately most deployed servers have a buggy versions of this extension, which cairo autodetects and then turns off those accelerations. If you are seeing performance problems, it's something we want to know about and investigate. Please file bugs with links to the problem SVG or attached testcases. Vague mentions of performance problems aren't useful, as we need to be able to reproduce what you're seeing. Bugs are also preferable to mail and newsgroup postings as they're queryable and can't be forgotten. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Corecomponent=SVG As an example, I am pretty sure that your thousands or 10.000s of polylines could easily be reduced to a much smaller number of path elements. A single path element can represents several polylines, by using several M commands and greatly improve the performance. Generally, what slows down the SVG renderers is the large number of DOM elements, not the complexity of the graphics itself. So I would really recommend that you try reducing the number of elements. Actually, for Firefox 1.5 and 2.0, large paths can be a serious performance problem as the cairo tesselator has poor scaling behavior. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: tspan in mozilla
On 9/25/06 11:39 AM, T Rowley wrote: On 9/25/06 10:12 AM, revelonshift wrote: Yeah, it is workaround, but I could it use, perhaps. Hope FFX2 will be working already as expected... Err, oops. While the fix is trivial and has been on the trunk since February, it was missed when merging low risk changes to the branch because it was included in a much larger patch. I've filed a bug/patch for the branch, but as RC1 is currently in QA the chances of getting approval to include this in FF2 are slim. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354147 Patch is in - will make FF2 RC2 and final. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Performance tips
On 9/21/06 7:29 AM, revelonshift wrote: No, I'm not using styles at all, knowing, that they are not so fast as direct properties. Some other ideas, if Mozilla specific, the better... There will be no performance difference between style and property attributes in Mozilla SVG, as they are both mapped internally to the same core style system. Major items to keep an eye out for performance in Firefox 1.5/2.0 SVG are group opacity (fill-opacity is fine), clipPaths, and complex paths (the current cairo tesselator has poor scalability). All of these should improve in Firefox 3.0. Like Erik I'd be interested in a copy of the application to take a look at what might be causing performance problems. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Performance tips
On 9/21/06 10:18 AM, T Rowley wrote: Major items to keep an eye out for performance in Firefox 1.5/2.0 SVG are group opacity (fill-opacity is fine), clipPaths, and complex paths (the current cairo tesselator has poor scalability). All of these should improve in Firefox 3.0. A little more information on the clipPath note - trivial clipPaths consisting of a single graphics element will be a fast path, but nontrivial ones fall onto a slower general codepath. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Performance tips
On 9/21/06 10:42 AM, Phi Tran wrote: Lately I am very careful in what I will say specially after ADOBE's announcement. For not to be misunderstood as a cheap-shot to promote my SVG/Zip . . . . Let me make my point on this thread. I only trying to help to save some CPU instructions here and there; Base on my background and study of the codes. I do not have any intention to undermine any SVG players. Please take my apology if any one you feel offended None taken, and I wasn't referring to your mention of clipPath, but rather trying to clarify my own vague note to avoid it in MozSVG for performance reasons. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Performance tips
On 9/21/06 11:27 AM, Jim Ley wrote: The biggest Mozilla speed improvement in scripting will be to not use getElementById() but to cache every single reference in a seperate variable of your own. currently mozilla re-looks up every node in the DOM for XML documents, and it's very, very slow. I have a patch which fixes this behavior - if you have testcases/applications which you believe suffer from getElementId() performance I'd be quite interested in obtaining them for testing. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF
On 9/12/06 9:51 AM, Tim Hesse wrote: Another huge issue for our firm is that FF (at least, haven't tested opera) doesn't support compressed .svgz which ASV did. Our clients won't be happy if we start sending 5+mb docs over the wire to them, when with ASV they would compress down to under a meg. Mozilla/Firefox's SVG will happily deal with svgz files if the server is providing them up with the appropriate content-encoding header. See this link for server configuration tips: http://wiki.svg.org/index.php?title=Server_Configuration Note that local (file:) svgz files will not load, due to this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52282 - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer
On 9/7/06 1:19 PM, Jeff Schiller wrote: So where are the open source, cross-platform SVG 1.1 viewers ? What about taking the Mozilla base and developing a browser plugin from that for only SVG support? What about candidates like AmanithVG and Renesis for a SVG 1.2 viewer? Let's get a list of all the candidate open-source projects and contribute so that they flourish before Jan 2008. The SVG code in mozilla is tied closely with the rest of the layout engine, so you need to take pretty much the whole Gecko engine if you wanted to do something like this. There is already code in the mozilla tree that turns it into an ActiveX Control which could serve as a starting point. http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/control.htm - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer
On 9/6/06 10:55 AM, Sean wrote: My concern with FF, is how slow it is with SVG over 300k. Hopefully within 1.5 years the issue will be solved. I tested it with the FF 2 beta 2, and mouseover events are still laboriously slow. I posted it as a bug back in January, but nothing. Have a bug # to reference? Firefox 2's SVG support is almost the same as 1.5, with the addition of textPath and some low-risk, high-gain bug and specification fixes backported from the trunk. Firefox 3 (which can be previewed by looking at a trunk nightly) is where development is happening. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WktRrD/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: arc and markers
On 7/13/06 9:22 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote: the reason is that FF does not yet implement .getPointAtLength() - at least not in version 1.5. Will be in Firefox 3: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344378 -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox on MacOSX, or is it Intel-related? / progress with latest Cairo?
On 7/4/06 8:27 AM, meikelneu wrote: jophof007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes firefox on the Mac (Intel or PPC) is on SVG much worse than under PC. yes, this is unfortunately true and it's mainly due to poor Cairo (the graphic engine for SVG behind Firefox) development on MacOSX. Has anyone more insight in what the latest Cairo release is up to on OSX and if it will make it into Firefox2? http://cairographics.org/news/cairo-1.2.0 (July 1st, 2006) At this point we don't plan on updating to cairo-1.2 in Firefox 2, as there's a serious regression in cairo's atsui font backend when dealing with transformed text. -tor Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Firefox on MacOSX, or is it Intel-related?
On 7/3/06 9:13 AM, Guy Morton wrote: I've just got myself a macbook pro running mac os x 10.7, and i downloaded firefox (the current version) and SVG is terrible in it. the bitmaps are all in a weird colour space and the text is outlined weirdly and so on. Is this just a problem with FF on a mac? Firefox 1.5.0.5 and Firefox 2 will contain the fixes for the byte ordering problems that cause SVG to look different between OS-X PPC and Intel. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Firefox 1.5 with SVG now officially released
On 12/1/05 3:07 PM, Richard Pearman wrote: Firefox doesn't correctly display any of the SVG's on my site, including ones I'm pretty sure have the Kosha namespace declarations etc. Also, as far as I can tell, the server uses the correct mime type for SVGZ. Can anyone please tell me what the problem is? Your server isn't sending the Content-Encoding header for svgz files: http://jwatt.org/svg/authoring/#server-configuration -tor Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: [update] Mozilla SVG report from XTech 2005
Ronan Oger ronan at roasp.com writes: 3/ MOZ SVG will support scripting Mozilla/Firefox SVG already supports scripting. The problem you might be seeing is the script mimetype: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/faq.html#script 4/ MOZ SVG will support XForms. While Mozilla/Firefox SVG should work with XForms, XForms is not currently planned to be shipped with Firefox 1.1, it will be a seperate download. 5/ MOZ SVG will not support SMIL at first, but Mozilla intend to support the full SVG 1.0 (1.1?) specification as soon as possible. Actually, I hear there is currently *some* SMIL support, and more coming, but it is not supported yet. There is currently no support for declarative animation in the codebase, but discussion and development has begun. Extremely doubtful that it will make it in the Firefox 1.1 timeframe. 7/ The Moz team is concentrating on matching the rendering that Opera8 provides. I heard it mentioned that Opera may be working on implementing a full-SVG version of their browser, since they currently support SVGT only. Matching Opera is not the goal, the specification (1.1) is. -tor - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
