RE: [svg-developers] SVGs, JavaScript and Adobe Illustrator CS2 and SVG RoboHelp Question
Use the following to get rid of the annoying Activate this control, in your html page put this as it is exactly (apart from the names or id's of your svg files etc..) !-- Workaround Script for Embed Activation Warnings in IE Patch KB912812 -- script type=text/javascript!-- theCtrl=''; theCtrl+='embed type=image/svg+xml width=740 height=610 src=mySVG.svg id=svgname name=svgname /embed'; //--/script script type=text/javascript src=scripts/writecontrol.js /script noscript embed type=image/svg+xml width=740 height=610 src=mySVG.svg id=svgname name=svgname /embed /noscript then have the following in your .js file (writecontrol.js) document.write(theCtrl); Works well Richard To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 08:31:32 -0800Subject: Re: [svg-developers] SVGs, JavaScript and Adobe Illustrator CS2 and SVG RoboHelp Question Hi Charles,Yes, I agree that one can get around this problem by using a browser thatsupports SVG natively, and congratulations to the browsers such as Operathat do in fact support SVG natively. However, if SVG developers findthemselves forced into supporting stubborn users who continue to supportbrowsers without native SVG support, such as IE, and must continue to useASV, then there is a different workaround. It is the same workaround thatFlash developers have had to use. One URL that shows how to achieve theFlash workaround ishttp://www.informit.com/guides/content.asp?g=flashseqNum=376rl=1. Ibelieve that the corresponding tricks necessary to do the same thing withSVG have been posted to this list (or elsewhere), but I haven't been ableto find them.JonJon Ferraiolo [EMAIL PROTECTED]Web Architect, Emerging TechnologiesIBM, Menlo Park, CAMobile: +1-650-464-7817Charles McCathieNevile [EMAIL PROTECTED] To svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent by: cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoogroups.com Subject Re: [svg-developers] SVGs, JavaScript and Adobe Illustrator 11/09/2006 06:49 CS2 and SVG RoboHelp Question AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoogroups.com On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 05:55:57 -0800, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second Question: I am creating a project where I will embed interactive SVGs into RoboHelp. So far it has worked great, but one thing I have noticed is that I have to click on the SVG once (from within the finished RoboHelp htm file)and then click again to access the interactivity. When I roll the mouse over the SVG, I get Click to activate and use this control (using IE7 with ASV 3.0). Does anyone know why this is the case? Why can't I just rollover the SVG?Because Microsoft got sued by EOLAS and part of their response was torequire clicking on any plugin before it works. Is there a way to correct this issue?Use a browser that has native SVG, such as Opera or Firefox (depending onwhether you need animation and so on, or just some simple SVG constructsand javascript)cheersChaals--Charles McCathieNevile, Opera Software: Standards Grouphablo español - je parle français - jeg lærer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try Opera 9 now! http://opera.com-To unsubscribe send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit mymembershipYahoo! Groups Links[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Adobe extends ASV customer support and download availability
Yep and then a few hours later this happens Adobe has acquired vector graphics technology developed by Actimagine. Why didnt they just use SVG Seems like they have a new vector technology they are pushing Richard From: Chris Lilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com To: Paton J. Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Adobe extends ASV customer support and download availability Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:21:44 +0200 On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 1:47:18 AM, Paton wrote: PJL In response to customer feedback, Adobe has extended customer support PJL and download availability for Adobe SVG Viewer. Customer support for PJL Adobe SVG Viewer will now cease on January 1, 2008; downloads of PJL Adobe SVG Viewer will cease on January 1, 2009. PJL For details, please see http://www.adobe.com/svg/eol.html Thanks for that, Paton. I think those are much more realistic timescales for those with heavy investments in ASV-specific solutions to transition to an alternative SVG solution. -- Chris Lilleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Interaction Domain Leader Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Performance tips
Are you using styles in your svg?
for example
style type=text/css![CDATA[.Pen0 {fill:none; stroke:#FF;
stroke-width:0.5}.Brush0 {fill:#FF; stroke:#FF; st
and then
path d=M172.5,263.261 L187.5,263.261 L187.5,238.261 L172.5,238.261
L172.5,263.261 class=Brush0 /
if you are then expect FF to run slowly if your doing some animation with a
stylesheet.
Hope ive been helpful
Richard
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:55:38 -
Hello there. Is there somebody experienced in
high-perrformance-tweaking of SVG implementation in Mozilla? I did
almost everything I could think about for optimization, but still, my
Submarine close-to-finish game performs in Gecko based browsers the
worse. The best is of course ASV (taking rouhly about 30% os CPU),
second is Batik (taking in some actions 100% of CPU), then Opera (is
optically slower than Batik but takes maximally 70% of CPU = I don't
know why :-( ) and Mozilla/Firefox is the worst of them, reaching
100% of CPU power very often. I tried use of cloneNode instead of
creating new one, without benefit, I tried use one complex gradient
instead of several simple ones, again no benefit. The only possible
way to speed things in Firefox up is disable almost everything and
reduce greatly number of elements. But I'm quite sure that there must
be something I'm still not aware of...
Thx for any tips, Marek
PS: Another problem I'm heading is sound = is there someone who knows
how to via Scripting control playing sounds, compatibility in many
browsersa is especially welcome. I failed using embed objects, playing
through FLASH API is also not very working, but perhaps there is some
way
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RE: [svg-developers] Re: Replace ASV with CSV
I think this is the beggining and not the end. Firefox, Safari, Opera will support SVG pretty fully by end 2007 Emiasys will have a plugin available for IE XAML will be out and supported in IE7, 8 IE8 will have XAML SVG support If all the above fails then Google will buy Opera and Firefox and everyone will download the browser and replace IE as everybody loves Google. Everyone decides not to download flash player cos know that all it does is play annoying adverts. We will all be on high paid jobs because we are SVG experts :) Richard From: zedkineece [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Replace ASV with CSV Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:54:41 - No slight taken... In rebuttal: This big project I am on is going to move to Windows Vista when it is released. We have gone down a road using ASV for quite a while now, and now we have to rethink the entire project. How will ASV 3.0.2 work on Vista? (rhetorical question). --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Al Darby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What am I missing? All this The Sky is Falling talk has me baffled. My understanding is that at some date in the future, Adobe will discontinue ASV ... so what? As far as I know, it was discontinued some time ago, I mean when did we last see an update? Will it stop working, will my PC explode if I have it installed, will I be unable to install my downloaded copy on another PC? Is it unlikely that there will ever be a replacement for ASV, or a migration path for SVG. I suspect the answer to both is No. As I said, what have I missed? BTW zedkineece I mean you no personal slight, it's just that yours is the most recent post in this vein. Pax Al --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, zedkineece zedkineece@ wrote: I have tried every other available SVG viewer, and none of them work on my project, nor do they provide the capabilities that ASV does (highlighting circuit signals, high use of context menu). This news has all but destroyed my business. [...] _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Re: COALITION - (WAS: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer)
The other point of ADOBE downloads. This sort of thing is bound to happen Maybe someone who was previously interested in SVG and made a download available on a website , this person, whoever it was, wasnt interested in SVG, forgot about his website and went onto something else and never heard of SVG, forgot about his website or even deceased. The domain still holds an SVG download but due to this person forgetting about it forgot to do the right thing and disable the download. I'm sure theres loads of websites out there that people set up and forget about. Just a thought, but im sure that will happen. Richard From: domenico_strazzullo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: COALITION - (WAS: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:47:40 - --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Ronan Oger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 17 September 2006 23:29, domenico_strazzullo wrote: WARNING, I'm going to do my Savonarola bit. What, this bit? On May 23, 1498, this extraordinary man and two Dominican disciples were hanged and burned, still professing their adherence to the Church. Not that one! The one against the Borgias. I don't think that bit would happen these days...mind you, you never know :( http://www.historyguide.org/intellect/savonarola.html Mind you, if everyone were to make ASV3.0.3 available through peer- to-peer and web download facilities, then there would be nobody to hang and burn. That's the point. Domenico Ronan -- Ronan Oger Director RO IT Systems GmbH ...Building Web2.0 with SVG since 2001 http://www.roitsystems.com _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer
Tell me about it, a complete nightmare. Our apps solely work on SVG with some large companies and we are rewriting our apps to work on IE and all the Native SVG browsers coming out. The headache for me is these large companies are phasing out Flash availability in the company. Yep no flash player allowed to be installed, so I cannot (wouldnt anyway) move to flash. 3 companies IT depts have already confirmed this, SVG is ok luckily, but lo and behold, they use IE Im also standing at the crossroads, the only thing that keeps me going is the hope that Adobe dropping SVG is realised by some one at MS to see this as an opportunity to get back at Adobe and grasp back the browser market. I think im going to bury my head in the sand for 6 months, hope an alternative is on the way, if there isnt then probably s**t my pants and find another way. Sorry this has been useless info but had to get it off my chest. Richard From: Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:14:34 - Hi all, I'm just in the process of developing an SVG application using AJAX and PHP for a client. The idea of Adobe backing out of the Adobe SVG field is causing some concern and to be honest I'd like to know what real options are available out there otherwise I'll be tempted to move over to Flash MX. The real bonus for this product I'm developing is indeed cost, it's practically free BUT I need to know that the application based on SVG is going to be suitable for the client long into the future. If I can't gurantee that, then I need to look for a solution that is more long-term. What effect is the loss of Adobe SVG plugin going to have on coding? Will my javascript/php code need to change? Will I need to make changes to the servers to allow new SVG plugins/browsers to work? Will I have to install anything new, complicated onto users machines? Will SVG remain widely supported by the open source community? I feel very much as though I should stop current development before I've invested too much time in a solution that is not suitable or worse sustainable. SVG has been a life-saver and to think I might have to move over to another product kinda annoys the hell out of me. Ben _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer
Doug Thanks, at least there are some options but correct me if i'm wrong, Dojo2D interpretes SVG into VML for IE and if its FF, Opera, Safari it would not need to use Dojo, or if it did it would be output as SVG. What would happen if IE get rid of VML? Im reading up on Dojo just to get an idea but would welcome your comments on the above as you have some experience in this area. Many thanks Richard From: Doug Schepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 18:11:54 -0400 Hi, Richard- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Yeh it would be good to perhaps have some idea of where we are going, our apps rely heavily on SVG (closed apps that have logins) but my head is spinning at the moment what to do. Maybe I should leave it for another 12 months and then start to worry 8 months or so before ASV gewts pulled, hopefully there will be good news around the corner, unfortunatley all our users use IE, we are rewriting a new version to include FF, Opera and Safari, but IE is still the main browser. I hear Ajax , Dojo2d, laszlo, emiasyswhich is the right path.oh dear. Well, I don't think it's all that confusing. The choices really break down to 3 options: 1) hope/work toward SVG support in IE, either native or via a plugin (EmiaSys and all others mentioned on this list fall into this category) 2) use an abstracted framework that delivers whatever graphics format is appropriate for the target platform (Ajax, Dojo2d, laszlo all fall into this category) 3) use some other technology (XAML and Flash [possibly laszlo?] fall into this category) I'm avoiding category 3 like the plague. The nice thing is that categories 1 and 2 are orthogonal... a business can use a framework, and when IE SVG support is stable, reexamine if they still need that framework. It can be a permanent commitment (dojo has a lot of advantages apart from SVG) or a stopgap. I can tell you what my company is considering doing, and maybe that might help inform your choices. We are already using dojo, so we will be investigating how well our content can be presented in dojo2D. I admit to some initial skepticism; VML is really limited, but I will follow up on it and see how much can be done. If it is designed correctly, it could deliver SVG to FF, Opera, Safari, etc., VML to base IE, and SVG to IE+SVG (either via plug-in or native, down the line). dojo2D pros: * abstracted development layer * browser independent * doesn't matter if IE has an SVG plug-in or not dojo2D cons: * dependence on dojo framework (not so bad for my company) * new abstracted layer to learn * may not be as full-featured as programming to native SVG implementations (lowest common denominator) But my real aim is finding a replacement for ASV. Having spent a few days taking stock of our options, I am pretty confident that with the will behind this group, the commercial opportunities and incentives for other companies, and the available resources (both open and closed source), we will be able to get at least fair SVG support for IE. Of course, Adobe could help this along by providing the code to help us do this, rather than aggressively attacking SVG. As has been said before, they have every right to stop supporting ASV, but their next move determines how they will be seen in doing so. Regards- -Doug _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer
I spose we are now in the hands of http://www.gosvg.net/ From: Jon Ferraiolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:30:16 -0700 As of when??!?!?!!? What happened??? Leonard -- Hi Leonard (and the other 7455 people on this list), I changed jobs in May, leaving Adobe to join IBM's Emerging Technologies group to help with OpenAjax. I left Adobe for IBM because this OpenAjax opportunity was just too attractive, even though my previous assignments at Adobe were also interesting and fun. (OK. I'll come clean. The REAL reason was I felt hugely embarrassed about living in Silicon Valley and not changing jobs in 13 years.) Here are some URLs on OpenAjax: http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/19187.wss - OpenAjax launched with 15 original members http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/19623.wss - OpenAjax gains 13 additional members http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/05/22/78577_HNajaxforge_1.html - Press report on first OpenAjax Alliance meeting http://ajax.sys-con.com/read/233247.htm - About me taking the reins There will be a lot more information about OpenAjax in the coming weeks. In particular, we are about to unveil our web site, a white paper, outline definition of the OpenAjax Hub (and associated open source project), announcements of new members, and have our second face-to-face meeting. Very cool stuff. Maybe not as cool as SVG or next-generation PDF, but cool nonetheless, and as I have mentioned in previous emails, SVG is becoming a component technology of Ajax. (And I can now hang my head high again in Silicon Valley due to having job-hopped recently.) Jon Jon Ferraiolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Architect, Emerging Technologies IBM, Menlo Park, CA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer
Doug Yeh it would be good to perhaps have some idea of where we are going, our apps rely heavily on SVG (closed apps that have logins) but my head is spinning at the moment what to do. Maybe I should leave it for another 12 months and then start to worry 8 months or so before ASV gewts pulled, hopefully there will be good news around the corner, unfortunatley all our users use IE, we are rewriting a new version to include FF, Opera and Safari, but IE is still the main browser. I hear Ajax , Dojo2d, laszlo, emiasyswhich is the right path.oh dear. Richard From: Doug Schepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:36:40 -0400 Hi- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spose we are now in the hands of http://www.gosvg.net/ I just want to note here that the team behind the Renesis SVG viewer is under new management... there is a new company, EmiaSys, with only the core technical staff, and with a different financial backer. From what I understand, the original parent company, EvolGrafiX, was a source of a lot of the frustrations we felt. I think we should keep an open mind about the Renesis platform. I've been talking to EmiaSys casually for a couple months as an SVG WG member (they've been asking about some technical matters related to SVG Tiny 1.2) and they seem much more focused than before. But I agree with Ronan's post in this thread. There are several options out there, including existing SVG viewers that haven't bothered to create plug-ins for IE because Adobe had already staked that ground out. This does represent an opportunity for one or more companies to prove their mettle. I would like to see several viewers available... not just for redundancy, but to drive innovation. Even if IE ends up supporting SVG, we won't know to what degree or how cross-browser compatible it will be, so as a business decision, I would like to have the option to distribute an alternate viewer of my choosing that has all the features that I need. I would not be surprised if companies using SVG would pay for support and distribution contracts, something Adobe never offered. Regards- -Doug _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG Logo Contest: personal preferences sought
Just a thought. Why do we actually need an svg logo and who will it benefit? Does HTML, XML, Javascript(I could go on) have a logo, so why does SVG have to, I dont see the point apart from something to do. Just my opinion but I'm not sure where this is going, maybe someone will print a 10ft poster at the SVG Open 2007 (if it ever happens) and the 20 or so people that turn up can stare at it and smile. Are you trying to create a brand? Are you intending to sell t-shirts and jackets? On another point, maybe no one noticed but IE7 add ons library removed the SVG download a few weeks ago and when I emailed IE addons they put it back in albeit the version 3 download. I received an email from the IE team yesterday. The updated product is now live, and should show up on the site tomorrow. Thanks for the feedback! IEAddOns.com Sorry I didnt submit my SVG logo but I felt having the SVG in the IE addons for the little time it has left more important and useful. Richard From: Ronan Oger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] SVG Logo Contest: personal preferences sought Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:25:09 +0200 Jonathan, Maybe you could propose some metadata, maybe 20-60 characters' worth? Other than that, I doubt we can have that much accesibility support given that it has to be a lowest-common-denominator-svg logo, in other words it needs to be static, all in the same unit set and work with svg1.0 and svgt1.1. But in the end, how exactly are we meant to implement this PR graphic? I guess the recommended practice will be to either add it as an image within our svg at the end of the document, or as an inline group? As far as choice of graphics goes, the ones I have seen are generally quite nice. I agree with you though that a simple, clean graphic is the best. Hopefully we won't end up with a flaming, pulsating, rotating SVG logo... ;-) Ronan On Sunday 03 September 2006 09:55, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: a please could others express there thoughts regarding their preferences for a logo? as to my own, read on: Yesterday Stelt asked me on IRC if I was entering the SVG Logo Contest. I replied that I rather thought not as I liked the current W3C graphics logo -- as used here http://www.w3.org/Graphics/ which I find humane and homely unlike much technology which can be hard and cold. it was suggested that it wasn't interactive, and I agreed that cowboys.svg has much to commend it, though it isn't a logo. overnight it occurred to me that as a minimum I would naturally require a logo to be accessible. which might for instance mean that for me there - must - be some visual feedback to tell the user which element in the logo has focus, there should also be audio, keyboard tabbing, text equivalent and more. cheers Jonathan Chetwynd [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links -- Ronan Oger Director RO IT Systems GmbH ...Building Web2.0 with SVG since 2001 http://www.roitsystems.com _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: IE tries to download, not display svg file
I had this problem similar to this and it was down to the declaration in the ..aspx page svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; xmlns:ev=http://www.w3.org/2001/xml-events; viewBox=0 0 740 610 From: Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: IE tries to download, not display svg file Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:19:28 -0600 I haven't had much opportunity to work on the problem since my work and home pc both are fine. Last night I was able to reproduce the problem on a laptop I recently reformatted, which was quite annoying, but at least I now have a computer with the problem. I tried the .htaccess file and doesn't help. I haven't had time to explore much with my laptop, but it prompts to either save or open the SVG file. When I try to open it, IE crashes. I tried lowering the security, but that doesn't seem to work either. The SVG is dynamically generated with PHP, and the mime type and header are set accordingly. Like I said, it is only a problem on some computers. Thanks! Sean Sherm wrote: Sean, Have you set the SVG MIME type on your server? I've run into this issue twice before, and neither server had SVG/SVGZ set as a MIME type. I always send server admins to this page to get info on setting the MIME type: http://www.svgfaq.com/ServerGen.asp http://www.svgfaq.com/ServerGen.asp HTH. Sherm - On 16/08/2006, at 2:42 AM, Sean wrote: I had put this off to the side thinking it might have been an error in my file, but it apparently is not. This is not an Adobe viewer vs native issue. It seems to me to be a security issue. But I can't reproduce it on my computer. I've tried increasing the security, but my computer works fine. My friends are unable to view my SVG. It is database driven, php, svg maps. When they try to open them, it wants to save them or open them, but trying to press the open button does nothing. Any insight would be most appreciated. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
