[svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears
Here is another interesting animation in the same vein. It shows two sliding blocks, one moving horizontally and the other moving vertically. A rod is pined to the centers of the two blocks. When this is done the motion of the ends of the rod traces ellipses. The following works in IE/ASV, FF4, WebKit, and Opera but interestingly does not work in Batik. ?xml version=1.0 standalone=no? !DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd; [ !ENTITY dur 9s !ENTITY hCirCW M -25 0 A 25 25 0 1 1 25 0 A 25 25 0 1 1 -25 0 !ENTITY hCirCCW M -25 0 A 25 25 0 1 0 25 0 A 25 25 0 1 0 -25 0 !ENTITY vCirCW M -25 0 A 25 25 0 1 1 25 0 A 25 25 0 1 1 -25 0 !ENTITY vCirCCW M 25 0 A 25 25 0 1 0 -25 0 A 25 25 0 1 0 25 0 ] svg width=100% height=100% viewBox=-100 -125 200 250 xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; rect x=-75 y=-75 width=150 height=150 fill=blue / rect x=-75 y=-10 width=150 height=20 fill=gray / rect x=-10 y=-75 width=20 height=150 fill=gray / g animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=hCirCW; repeatCount=indefinite / rect x=-20 y=-10 width=40 height=20 fill=green animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=hCirCCW; repeatCount=indefinite / /rect /g g animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=vCirCW; repeatCount=indefinite / rect x=-10 y=-20 width=20 height=40 fill=green animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=vCirCCW; repeatCount=indefinite / /rect /g g animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=hCirCW; repeatCount=indefinite / line x1=100 y1=0 x2=-50 y2=0 stroke-width=5 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=0 to=-360 begin=0s dur=dur; repeatCount=indefinite / animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=hCirCCW; repeatCount=indefinite / /line /g g animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=hCirCW; repeatCount=indefinite / circle x=0 y=0 r=1 fill=yellow animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=hCirCCW; repeatCount=indefinite / /circle /g g animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=vCirCW; repeatCount=indefinite / circle x=0 y=0 r=1 fill=yellow animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=vCirCCW; repeatCount=indefinite / /circle /g ellipse cx=0 cy=0 rx=50 ry=100 fill=none stroke=red stroke-width=0.2 / ellipse cx=0 cy=0 rx=100 ry=50 fill=none stroke=red stroke-width=0.2 / /svg - The really strange thing is an early version of this file. I thought it would be simple to replicate the code for one block and rotate it by 90 degrees to get the second block. It didn't work but rotating it 180 degrees did (in Chrome where I was testing). When I thought I was done, I checked in FF4 - same result. In Opera, I got radically different results. IE/ASV showed the same as Opera. I believe Opera and ASV have the behavior correctly as I coded it. Again Batik does not show the rod correctly but shows the blocks as ASV and Opera. Any idea why FF4 and WebKit show the same but different display? ?xml version=1.0 standalone=no? !DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd; [ !ENTITY dur 9s !ENTITY largeCirCW M -25 0 A 25 25 0 1 1 25 0 A 25 25 0 1 1 -25 0 !ENTITY largeCirCCW M -25 0 A 25 25 0 1 0 25 0 A 25 25 0 1 0 -25 0 ] svg width=100% height=100% viewBox=-100 -150 200 300 xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; rect x=-75 y=-75 width=150 height=150 fill=blue / rect x=-75 y=-10 width=150 height=20 fill=gray / rect x=-10 y=-75 width=20 height=150 fill=gray / g animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=largeCirCW; repeatCount=indefinite / rect x=-20 y=-10 width=40 height=20 fill=green animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=largeCirCCW; repeatCount=indefinite / /rect /g g transform=rotate(180) animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=largeCirCW; repeatCount=indefinite / rect x=-10 y=-20 width=20 height=40 fill=green animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=largeCirCCW; repeatCount=indefinite / /rect /g g animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=largeCirCW; repeatCount=indefinite / line x1=100 y1=0 x2=0 y2=0 stroke-width=5 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=0 to=-360 begin=0s dur=dur; repeatCount=indefinite / animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=largeCirCCW; repeatCount=indefinite / /line /g g animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=largeCirCW; repeatCount=indefinite / circle x=0 y=0 r=1 fill=yellow animateMotion begin=0s dur=dur; path=largeCirCCW;
Re: [svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:55:47 +0200, ddailey ddai...@zoominternet.net wrote: Thanks Robert! I've gotten rid of the zeroes so that http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval4.svg now works well everywhere *but* Opera. If the order of the animation elements is changed (switching places of the animateTransform and animate elements in the smaller ellipse), then it works just fine. Similarly if the animateTransform is removed the animation of the dash-offset works. I'll handle that as a bug on our end, thanks. Reording the animation elements like this should have no unwanted side-effects in this example I believe, and seemed to work just fine in Opera, Firefox and Epiphany-webkit. Cheers /Erik -- Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears
David These are interesting examples. I will add another: ?xml version=1.0 standalone=no? svg width=100% height=100% viewBox=-100 -150 200 300 xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; g animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=0 to=360 begin=0s dur=24s repeatCount=indefinite / circle cx=0 cy=0 r=100 fill=blue / rect x=-10 y=-100 width=20 height=200 fill=gray / rect x=-10 y=-100 width=20 height=200 fill=gray transform=rotate(60)/ rect x=-10 y=-100 width=20 height=200 fill=gray transform=rotate(120)/ /g g transform=translate(0,45) g animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=0 to=360 begin=0s dur=12s repeatCount=indefinite / circle cx=0 cy=45 r=10 fill=red / circle cx=0 cy=45 r=10 fill=red transform=rotate(120)/ circle cx=0 cy=45 r=10 fill=red transform=rotate(240)/ line x1=0 y1=0 x2=0 y2=45 stroke-width=6 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round / line x1=0 y1=0 x2=0 y2=45 stroke-width=6 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round transform=rotate(120)/ line x1=0 y1=0 x2=0 y2=45 stroke-width=6 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round transform=rotate(240)/ /g /g /svg This is a quick and dirty version of a roller gear. To see a physical picture of one see: http://lumberjocks.com/projects/23791 All browsers work fine except IE. I haven't tested it with ASV. Enjoy! --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddai...@... wrote: Here are a couple of interesting examples / difficult browser calisthenics: http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval3.svg and http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval4.svg The first works much as I think it should in Opera, Chrome and IE/ASV. FF4 runs only one of the gears. Safari screws up the stroke's gradient. IE/ASV, though and Opera/Chrome/Safari don't agree about the proper values for animating dashoffset.In IE/ASV, using values=0;24 and values=24;0 respectively for the two animations seems to line up the gear teeth well, whereas for the others I had to do values=12;36 and values=24;0 to keep the teeth from colliding. The second example seems to work well only in IE/ASV and Chrome -- a first for those two to team up in bettering Opera in my experience! ASV and both webkit browsers seem to get the outergear to spin. FF seems to see that there is something there, but stalls before it can make a go of it, and Opera for some odd reason seems to ignore that particular animation. Btw, I rather liked the slighty readjustment that ASV and webkit experience due to the circumference of the ellipse being irrational -- something like it might be expected, I think, in a physical model. At first I was annoyed that I couldn't get the gradient to extend out into the teeth, but then I remembered the r attribute of a radial gradient (.5 by default). I could have varied it but decided not to. It would be fun to make more complex machines sorta like this based on SMIL, but we'd have to figure out which browers are doing it right first I suppose. Do let me know if it is my code of the browsers that are goofy here. cheers David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears
Cool, Bruce! It almost seems paradoxical in the way it moves, reminding me a bit of those wooden winding toys. Seems like we'll need a machinery collection somewhere now. Would you mind if I stuck this example (with credit, of course) on a page somewhere? It would be fun to build little components and then let people hook them together sorta like the motors in Phun (http://www.phunland.com/wiki/Home ) BTW the animation of the top thing could save the poor browser a bit of work using animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=0 to=60 begin=0s dur=4s repeatCount=indefinite / because of the sixfold symmetry. It seems like the browser might be happier having to only manage 4 seconds of animation (and then having that delightful instant of taking a breath) instead of 24 before starting over. The Reuleaux triangle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuleaux_triangle ) would be another instance. (Someone really should start lacing Wikipedia with SVG animation since the particular animation there is thoroughly icky. Starting with the entry on SVG would be a good start.) It is a good example of why re-inventing the wheel is sometimes a good planetary exercise: sometimes people get too stubborn. cheers David - Original Message - From: bruce To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: [svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears David These are interesting examples. I will add another: ?xml version=1.0 standalone=no? svg width=100% height=100% viewBox=-100 -150 200 300 xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; g animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=0 to=360 begin=0s dur=24s repeatCount=indefinite / circle cx=0 cy=0 r=100 fill=blue / rect x=-10 y=-100 width=20 height=200 fill=gray / rect x=-10 y=-100 width=20 height=200 fill=gray transform=rotate(60)/ rect x=-10 y=-100 width=20 height=200 fill=gray transform=rotate(120)/ /g g transform=translate(0,45) g animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=0 to=360 begin=0s dur=12s repeatCount=indefinite / circle cx=0 cy=45 r=10 fill=red / circle cx=0 cy=45 r=10 fill=red transform=rotate(120)/ circle cx=0 cy=45 r=10 fill=red transform=rotate(240)/ line x1=0 y1=0 x2=0 y2=45 stroke-width=6 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round / line x1=0 y1=0 x2=0 y2=45 stroke-width=6 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round transform=rotate(120)/ line x1=0 y1=0 x2=0 y2=45 stroke-width=6 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round transform=rotate(240)/ /g /g /svg This is a quick and dirty version of a roller gear. To see a physical picture of one see: http://lumberjocks.com/projects/23791 All browsers work fine except IE. I haven't tested it with ASV. Enjoy! --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddai...@... wrote: Here are a couple of interesting examples / difficult browser calisthenics: http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval3.svg and http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval4.svg The first works much as I think it should in Opera, Chrome and IE/ASV. FF4 runs only one of the gears. Safari screws up the stroke's gradient. IE/ASV, though and Opera/Chrome/Safari don't agree about the proper values for animating dashoffset.In IE/ASV, using values=0;24 and values=24;0 respectively for the two animations seems to line up the gear teeth well, whereas for the others I had to do values=12;36 and values=24;0 to keep the teeth from colliding. The second example seems to work well only in IE/ASV and Chrome -- a first for those two to team up in bettering Opera in my experience! ASV and both webkit browsers seem to get the outergear to spin. FF seems to see that there is something there, but stalls before it can make a go of it, and Opera for some odd reason seems to ignore that particular animation. Btw, I rather liked the slighty readjustment that ASV and webkit experience due to the circumference of the ellipse being irrational -- something like it might be expected, I think, in a physical model. At first I was annoyed that I couldn't get the gradient to extend out into the teeth, but then I remembered the r attribute of a radial gradient (.5 by default). I could have varied it but decided not to. It would be fun to make more complex machines sorta like this based on SMIL, but we'd have to figure out which browers are doing it right first I suppose. Do let me know if it is my code of the browsers that are goofy here. cheers David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click
[svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears
It is a pretty crude version but you are welcome to it. I got the idea from a href=http://www.amazon.com/Making-Mechanical-Marvels-Wood-Raymond/dp/0806973587; Making Mechanical Marvels In Wood/a so add that reference too. I like the Reuleaux triangle. Some made a drill bit that rotates off centered using it so it actually drills a square hole except the small corners. I may try a hand at it. Bruce --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddai...@... wrote: Cool, Bruce! It almost seems paradoxical in the way it moves, reminding me a bit of those wooden winding toys. Seems like we'll need a machinery collection somewhere now. Would you mind if I stuck this example (with credit, of course) on a page somewhere? It would be fun to build little components and then let people hook them together sorta like the motors in Phun (http://www.phunland.com/wiki/Home ) BTW the animation of the top thing could save the poor browser a bit of work using animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=0 to=60 begin=0s dur=4s repeatCount=indefinite / because of the sixfold symmetry. It seems like the browser might be happier having to only manage 4 seconds of animation (and then having that delightful instant of taking a breath) instead of 24 before starting over. The Reuleaux triangle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuleaux_triangle ) would be another instance. (Someone really should start lacing Wikipedia with SVG animation since the particular animation there is thoroughly icky. Starting with the entry on SVG would be a good start.) It is a good example of why re-inventing the wheel is sometimes a good planetary exercise: sometimes people get too stubborn. cheers David - Original Message - From: bruce To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: [svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears David These are interesting examples. I will add another: ?xml version=1.0 standalone=no? svg width=100% height=100% viewBox=-100 -150 200 300 xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; g animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=0 to=360 begin=0s dur=24s repeatCount=indefinite / circle cx=0 cy=0 r=100 fill=blue / rect x=-10 y=-100 width=20 height=200 fill=gray / rect x=-10 y=-100 width=20 height=200 fill=gray transform=rotate(60)/ rect x=-10 y=-100 width=20 height=200 fill=gray transform=rotate(120)/ /g g transform=translate(0,45) g animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=0 to=360 begin=0s dur=12s repeatCount=indefinite / circle cx=0 cy=45 r=10 fill=red / circle cx=0 cy=45 r=10 fill=red transform=rotate(120)/ circle cx=0 cy=45 r=10 fill=red transform=rotate(240)/ line x1=0 y1=0 x2=0 y2=45 stroke-width=6 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round / line x1=0 y1=0 x2=0 y2=45 stroke-width=6 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round transform=rotate(120)/ line x1=0 y1=0 x2=0 y2=45 stroke-width=6 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round transform=rotate(240)/ /g /g /svg This is a quick and dirty version of a roller gear. To see a physical picture of one see: http://lumberjocks.com/projects/23791 All browsers work fine except IE. I haven't tested it with ASV. Enjoy! --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddailey@ wrote: Here are a couple of interesting examples / difficult browser calisthenics: http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval3.svg and http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval4.svg The first works much as I think it should in Opera, Chrome and IE/ASV. FF4 runs only one of the gears. Safari screws up the stroke's gradient. IE/ASV, though and Opera/Chrome/Safari don't agree about the proper values for animating dashoffset.In IE/ASV, using values=0;24 and values=24;0 respectively for the two animations seems to line up the gear teeth well, whereas for the others I had to do values=12;36 and values=24;0 to keep the teeth from colliding. The second example seems to work well only in IE/ASV and Chrome -- a first for those two to team up in bettering Opera in my experience! ASV and both webkit browsers seem to get the outergear to spin. FF seems to see that there is something there, but stalls before it can make a go of it, and Opera for some odd reason seems to ignore that particular animation. Btw, I rather liked the slighty readjustment that ASV and webkit experience due to the circumference of the ellipse being irrational -- something like it might be expected, I think, in a physical model. At first I was annoyed that I couldn't get the gradient to extend out into the teeth, but then I remembered the r attribute of a radial gradient (.5 by default). I could have varied it but decided
[svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears
It is a pretty crude version but you are welcome to it. I got the idea from Making Mechanical Marvels In Wood : http://www.amazon.com/Making-Mechanical-Marvels-Wood-Raymond/dp/0806973587\ so add that reference too. I like the Reuleaux triangle. Some made a drill bit that rotates off centered using it so it actually drills a square hole except the small corners. I may try a hand at it. Bruce --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddai...@... wrote: Cool, Bruce! It almost seems paradoxical in the way it moves, reminding me a bit of those wooden winding toys. Seems like we'll need a machinery collection somewhere now. Would you mind if I stuck this example (with credit, of course) on a page somewhere? It would be fun to build little components and then let people hook them together sorta like the motors in Phun (http://www.phunland.com/wiki/Home ) BTW the animation of the top thing could save the poor browser a bit of work using animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=0 to=60 begin=0s dur=4s repeatCount=indefinite / because of the sixfold symmetry. It seems like the browser might be happier having to only manage 4 seconds of animation (and then having that delightful instant of taking a breath) instead of 24 before starting over. The Reuleaux triangle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuleaux_triangle ) would be another instance. (Someone really should start lacing Wikipedia with SVG animation since the particular animation there is thoroughly icky. Starting with the entry on SVG would be a good start.) It is a good example of why re-inventing the wheel is sometimes a good planetary exercise: sometimes people get too stubborn. cheers David - Original Message - From: bruce To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: [svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears David These are interesting examples. I will add another: ?xml version=1.0 standalone=no? svg width=100% height=100% viewBox=-100 -150 200 300 xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; g animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=0 to=360 begin=0s dur=24s repeatCount=indefinite / circle cx=0 cy=0 r=100 fill=blue / rect x=-10 y=-100 width=20 height=200 fill=gray / rect x=-10 y=-100 width=20 height=200 fill=gray transform=rotate(60)/ rect x=-10 y=-100 width=20 height=200 fill=gray transform=rotate(120)/ /g g transform=translate(0,45) g animateTransform attributeName=transform attributeType=XML type=rotate from=0 to=360 begin=0s dur=12s repeatCount=indefinite / circle cx=0 cy=45 r=10 fill=red / circle cx=0 cy=45 r=10 fill=red transform=rotate(120)/ circle cx=0 cy=45 r=10 fill=red transform=rotate(240)/ line x1=0 y1=0 x2=0 y2=45 stroke-width=6 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round / line x1=0 y1=0 x2=0 y2=45 stroke-width=6 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round transform=rotate(120)/ line x1=0 y1=0 x2=0 y2=45 stroke-width=6 stroke=black stroke-linecap=round transform=rotate(240)/ /g /g /svg This is a quick and dirty version of a roller gear. To see a physical picture of one see: http://lumberjocks.com/projects/23791 All browsers work fine except IE. I haven't tested it with ASV. Enjoy! --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddailey@ wrote: Here are a couple of interesting examples / difficult browser calisthenics: http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval3.svg and http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval4.svg The first works much as I think it should in Opera, Chrome and IE/ASV. FF4 runs only one of the gears. Safari screws up the stroke's gradient. IE/ASV, though and Opera/Chrome/Safari don't agree about the proper values for animating dashoffset.In IE/ASV, using values=0;24 and values=24;0 respectively for the two animations seems to line up the gear teeth well, whereas for the others I had to do values=12;36 and values=24;0 to keep the teeth from colliding. The second example seems to work well only in IE/ASV and Chrome -- a first for those two to team up in bettering Opera in my experience! ASV and both webkit browsers seem to get the outergear to spin. FF seems to see that there is something there, but stalls before it can make a go of it, and Opera for some odd reason seems to ignore that particular animation. Btw, I rather liked the slighty readjustment that ASV and webkit experience due to the circumference of the ellipse being irrational -- something like it might be expected, I think, in a physical model. At first I was annoyed that I couldn't get the gradient to extend out into the teeth, but then I remembered the r attribute of a radial gradient (.5 by default). I could have varied it but decided
[svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddai...@... wrote: Here are a couple of interesting examples / difficult browser calisthenics: http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval3.svg and http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval4.svg The first works much as I think it should in Opera, Chrome and IE/ASV. FF4 runs only one of the gears. We don't like zeros ;-) 24;1 would animate see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594198 Best regards Robert - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears
Thanks Robert! I've gotten rid of the zeroes so that http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval4.svg now works well everywhere *but* Opera. To be balanced, here's another one that seems to work properly *only* in Opera: http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval8.svg Anyone who has used Opera and fished the Nome River in August or early September would recognize this immediately! This exhibits very odd and different behavior in FF4, Safari/Chrome and IE/ASV. The asymptotically indeterminite slope in the limiting case when dx=0 seems to be throwing browsers into a tizzy. ASV is not as troubled as the others and though Opera does what I had expected, I could see a certain logic for how ASV handles it. I am rather certain that FF4 may have two bugs here: one for the indeterminite slope (which is actually zero, I think, if one takes the limit of the function) and the other for backtracking the path absent the z subcommand. Looks like this might be another of these would-be-acid tests? I think maybe I'll call them cool-aid tests since Kraft and Google seem to have trademarks on Ken Kesey. cheers David - Original Message - From: Robert Longson To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:39 AM Subject: [svg-developers] Re: fun but buggy -- gears --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey ddai...@... wrote: Here are a couple of interesting examples / difficult browser calisthenics: http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval3.svg and http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval4.svg The first works much as I think it should in Opera, Chrome and IE/ASV. FF4 runs only one of the gears. We don't like zeros ;-) 24;1 would animate see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594198 Best regards Robert [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
