Re: [svg-developers] SVG Logo Contest: personal preferences sought
Just a thought. Why do we actually need an svg logo and who will it benefit? Does HTML, XML, Javascript(I could go on) have a logo, so why does SVG have to, I dont see the point apart from something to do. Just my opinion but I'm not sure where this is going, maybe someone will print a 10ft poster at the SVG Open 2007 (if it ever happens) and the 20 or so people that turn up can stare at it and smile. Are you trying to create a brand? Are you intending to sell t-shirts and jackets? On another point, maybe no one noticed but IE7 add ons library removed the SVG download a few weeks ago and when I emailed IE addons they put it back in albeit the version 3 download. I received an email from the IE team yesterday. The updated product is now live, and should show up on the site tomorrow. Thanks for the feedback! IEAddOns.com Sorry I didnt submit my SVG logo but I felt having the SVG in the IE addons for the little time it has left more important and useful. Richard From: Ronan Oger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] SVG Logo Contest: personal preferences sought Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:25:09 +0200 Jonathan, Maybe you could propose some metadata, maybe 20-60 characters' worth? Other than that, I doubt we can have that much accesibility support given that it has to be a lowest-common-denominator-svg logo, in other words it needs to be static, all in the same unit set and work with svg1.0 and svgt1.1. But in the end, how exactly are we meant to implement this PR graphic? I guess the recommended practice will be to either add it as an image within our svg at the end of the document, or as an inline group? As far as choice of graphics goes, the ones I have seen are generally quite nice. I agree with you though that a simple, clean graphic is the best. Hopefully we won't end up with a flaming, pulsating, rotating SVG logo... ;-) Ronan On Sunday 03 September 2006 09:55, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: a please could others express there thoughts regarding their preferences for a logo? as to my own, read on: Yesterday Stelt asked me on IRC if I was entering the SVG Logo Contest. I replied that I rather thought not as I liked the current W3C graphics logo -- as used here http://www.w3.org/Graphics/ which I find humane and homely unlike much technology which can be hard and cold. it was suggested that it wasn't interactive, and I agreed that cowboys.svg has much to commend it, though it isn't a logo. overnight it occurred to me that as a minimum I would naturally require a logo to be accessible. which might for instance mean that for me there - must - be some visual feedback to tell the user which element in the logo has focus, there should also be audio, keyboard tabbing, text equivalent and more. cheers Jonathan Chetwynd [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links -- Ronan Oger Director RO IT Systems GmbH ...Building Web2.0 with SVG since 2001 http://www.roitsystems.com _ Windows LiveĀ Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG Logo Contest: personal preferences sought
Hi- As Ronan points out, the logo is meant to be more of a symbol than an interactive document, and I can assure you that the logo will be distinctive, simple, and elegant. Since audio is only available in SVGT1.2+, and since this is intended for print and rasterization as well as SVG-format viewing, the logo will not have sound, nor will there be interactivity nor focus (or rather, the default initial focus will be on the root). The best way to achieve accessibility for a logo such as this is to have a text fallback, which has always been the plan. The title and desc of the final logo will contain the necessary textual information such that a screen-reader will be able to provide a voiced interpretation. This will be in a language-based switch to allow for many translations. I will note that this is innately much more accessible than a raster logo, which apart from its file name has no inherent text equivalent. Regards- -Doug Ronan Oger wrote: Jonathan, Maybe you could propose some metadata, maybe 20-60 characters' worth? Other than that, I doubt we can have that much accesibility support given that it has to be a lowest-common-denominator-svg logo, in other words it needs to be static, all in the same unit set and work with svg1.0 and svgt1.1. But in the end, how exactly are we meant to implement this PR graphic? I guess the recommended practice will be to either add it as an image within our svg at the end of the document, or as an inline group? As far as choice of graphics goes, the ones I have seen are generally quite nice. I agree with you though that a simple, clean graphic is the best. Hopefully we won't end up with a flaming, pulsating, rotating SVG logo... ;-) Ronan On Sunday 03 September 2006 09:55, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: a please could others express there thoughts regarding their preferences for a logo? as to my own, read on: Yesterday Stelt asked me on IRC if I was entering the SVG Logo Contest. I replied that I rather thought not as I liked the current W3C graphics logo -- as used here http://www.w3.org/Graphics/ which I find humane and homely unlike much technology which can be hard and cold. it was suggested that it wasn't interactive, and I agreed that cowboys.svg has much to commend it, though it isn't a logo. overnight it occurred to me that as a minimum I would naturally require a logo to be accessible. which might for instance mean that for me there - must - be some visual feedback to tell the user which element in the logo has focus, there should also be audio, keyboard tabbing, text equivalent and more. cheers Jonathan Chetwynd - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] SVG Logo Contest: personal preferences sought
please could others express there thoughts regarding their preferences for a logo? as to my own, read on: Yesterday Stelt asked me on IRC if I was entering the SVG Logo Contest. I replied that I rather thought not as I liked the current W3C graphics logo -- as used here http://www.w3.org/Graphics/ which I find humane and homely unlike much technology which can be hard and cold. it was suggested that it wasn't interactive, and I agreed that cowboys.svg has much to commend it, though it isn't a logo. overnight it occurred to me that as a minimum I would naturally require a logo to be accessible. which might for instance mean that for me there - must - be some visual feedback to tell the user which element in the logo has focus, there should also be audio, keyboard tabbing, text equivalent and more. cheers Jonathan Chetwynd [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
