Re: svn commit: r347961 - head
On May 22, 2019 2:06:18 PM PDT, "Rodney W. Grimes"
wrote:
>> On 5/22/19 5:48 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>> > On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 09:42:29AM -0300, Renato Botelho wrote:
>> >> On 18/05/19 16:36, Brad Davis wrote:
>> >>> New Revision: 347961
>> >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/347961
>> >>>
>> >>> Log:
>> >>> Add note to UPDATING for users of mergemaster after the move of
>> >>> master.passwd and group in r347638.
>> >>>
>> >>> Approved by: allanjude (mentor)
>> >>>
>> >>> Modified:
>> >>> head/UPDATING
>> >>>
>> >>> +20190517:
>> >>> +For users of mergemaster, after recent changes to locations of
>> >>> +master.passwd and group in the source tree mergemaster needs to
>be
>> >>> +updated. Before running `mergemaster -p', cd to
>usr.sbin/mergemaster
>> >>> +and run `make install'.
>> >>> +
>> >>
>> >> etcupdate is installing group and master.passwd to /lib/libc/gen.
>It
>> >> seems wrong.
>> >>
>> >> root@x230:/usr/src # etcupdate -p
>> >> A /lib/libc/gen/group
>> >> A /lib/libc/gen/master.passwd
>> >
>> > *facepalm*
>> >
>> > Let me ask again: why these files were moved out of their perfectly
>> > (and likely the only) reasonable location (etc/) under some cryptic
>> > libc/gen/ which not only makes little sense per se, but also breaks
>> > mergemaster(8) and similar tools?
>>
>> Because bmake doesn't support .PATH? Oh wait...
>
>I spoke long ago when this whole "rip etc/ apart" started, and objected
>repeatedly and was shot down. I even asked for a "complete plan" and
>was more or less told this is by design of pkg base.
>
>Let me speak to "by design", the BSD source tree is, by design, to
>reflect the installed location of a file with very rare exception
>to that design. The .mk system by design is written with this
>assumption in mind as well. The above artifact is by that design.
>
>Attempts to alter such by design behavior has problems, some of
>which are now, repeatedly showing there ugly head.
>
>.PATH could of easily been used,
>as well as cd ${SRCTOP}/etc && make FOOCONF
>to implement exactly what was done without ANY file moves.
>Oh, wait that was pointed out, I belive twice, maybe 3 times,
>and by some experts on the .mk system as well.
>
>sjg (bmake maintainr) and bdrewery (one of our .mk system experts)
>have both pushed back on these changes.
>
>Good luck with supporting this so not by design package system
>if it requires this to be operable. Also good luck maintaining
>any of the ${DESTDIR}/etc files as now no one knows how to
>find them in the source tree.
>
>> John Baldwin
I couldn't have said this better, my sentiments exactly.
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Re: svn commit: r347961 - head
> On 5/22/19 5:48 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> > On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 09:42:29AM -0300, Renato Botelho wrote:
> >> On 18/05/19 16:36, Brad Davis wrote:
> >>> New Revision: 347961
> >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/347961
> >>>
> >>> Log:
> >>> Add note to UPDATING for users of mergemaster after the move of
> >>> master.passwd and group in r347638.
> >>>
> >>> Approved by:allanjude (mentor)
> >>>
> >>> Modified:
> >>> head/UPDATING
> >>>
> >>> +20190517:
> >>> + For users of mergemaster, after recent changes to locations of
> >>> + master.passwd and group in the source tree mergemaster needs to be
> >>> + updated. Before running `mergemaster -p', cd to usr.sbin/mergemaster
> >>> + and run `make install'.
> >>> +
> >>
> >> etcupdate is installing group and master.passwd to /lib/libc/gen. It
> >> seems wrong.
> >>
> >> root@x230:/usr/src # etcupdate -p
> >> A /lib/libc/gen/group
> >> A /lib/libc/gen/master.passwd
> >
> > *facepalm*
> >
> > Let me ask again: why these files were moved out of their perfectly
> > (and likely the only) reasonable location (etc/) under some cryptic
> > libc/gen/ which not only makes little sense per se, but also breaks
> > mergemaster(8) and similar tools?
>
> Because bmake doesn't support .PATH? Oh wait...
I spoke long ago when this whole "rip etc/ apart" started, and objected
repeatedly and was shot down. I even asked for a "complete plan" and
was more or less told this is by design of pkg base.
Let me speak to "by design", the BSD source tree is, by design, to
reflect the installed location of a file with very rare exception
to that design. The .mk system by design is written with this
assumption in mind as well. The above artifact is by that design.
Attempts to alter such by design behavior has problems, some of
which are now, repeatedly showing there ugly head.
.PATH could of easily been used,
as well as cd ${SRCTOP}/etc && make FOOCONF
to implement exactly what was done without ANY file moves.
Oh, wait that was pointed out, I belive twice, maybe 3 times,
and by some experts on the .mk system as well.
sjg (bmake maintainr) and bdrewery (one of our .mk system experts)
have both pushed back on these changes.
Good luck with supporting this so not by design package system
if it requires this to be operable. Also good luck maintaining
any of the ${DESTDIR}/etc files as now no one knows how to
find them in the source tree.
> John Baldwin
--
Rod Grimes rgri...@freebsd.org
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Re: svn commit: r347961 - head
On 5/22/19 5:48 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 09:42:29AM -0300, Renato Botelho wrote: >> On 18/05/19 16:36, Brad Davis wrote: >>> New Revision: 347961 >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/347961 >>> >>> Log: >>> Add note to UPDATING for users of mergemaster after the move of >>> master.passwd and group in r347638. >>> >>> Approved by: allanjude (mentor) >>> >>> Modified: >>> head/UPDATING >>> >>> +20190517: >>> + For users of mergemaster, after recent changes to locations of >>> + master.passwd and group in the source tree mergemaster needs to be >>> + updated. Before running `mergemaster -p', cd to usr.sbin/mergemaster >>> + and run `make install'. >>> + >> >> etcupdate is installing group and master.passwd to /lib/libc/gen. It >> seems wrong. >> >> root@x230:/usr/src # etcupdate -p >> A /lib/libc/gen/group >> A /lib/libc/gen/master.passwd > > *facepalm* > > Let me ask again: why these files were moved out of their perfectly > (and likely the only) reasonable location (etc/) under some cryptic > libc/gen/ which not only makes little sense per se, but also breaks > mergemaster(8) and similar tools? Because bmake doesn't support .PATH? Oh wait... -- John Baldwin ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r347961 - head
On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 09:42:29AM -0300, Renato Botelho wrote: > On 18/05/19 16:36, Brad Davis wrote: > > New Revision: 347961 > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/347961 > > > > Log: > > Add note to UPDATING for users of mergemaster after the move of > > master.passwd and group in r347638. > > > > Approved by: allanjude (mentor) > > > > Modified: > > head/UPDATING > > > > +20190517: > > + For users of mergemaster, after recent changes to locations of > > + master.passwd and group in the source tree mergemaster needs to be > > + updated. Before running `mergemaster -p', cd to usr.sbin/mergemaster > > + and run `make install'. > > + > > etcupdate is installing group and master.passwd to /lib/libc/gen. It > seems wrong. > > root@x230:/usr/src # etcupdate -p > A /lib/libc/gen/group > A /lib/libc/gen/master.passwd *facepalm* Let me ask again: why these files were moved out of their perfectly (and likely the only) reasonable location (etc/) under some cryptic libc/gen/ which not only makes little sense per se, but also breaks mergemaster(8) and similar tools? ./danfe ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r347961 - head
On 18/05/19 16:36, Brad Davis wrote: > Author: brd > Date: Sat May 18 19:36:23 2019 > New Revision: 347961 > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/347961 > > Log: > Add note to UPDATING for users of mergemaster after the move of > master.passwd > and group in r347638. > > Approved by:allanjude (mentor) > > Modified: > head/UPDATING > > Modified: head/UPDATING > == > --- head/UPDATING Sat May 18 19:32:38 2019(r347960) > +++ head/UPDATING Sat May 18 19:36:23 2019(r347961) > @@ -31,6 +31,12 @@ NOTE TO PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT FreeBSD 13.x IS SLOW: > disable the most expensive debugging functionality run > "ln -s 'abort:false,junk:false' /etc/malloc.conf".) > > +20190517: > + For users of mergemaster, after recent changes to locations of > + master.passwd and group in the source tree mergemaster needs to be > + updated. Before running `mergemaster -p', cd to usr.sbin/mergemaster > + and run `make install'. > + etcupdate is installing group and master.passwd to /lib/libc/gen. It seems wrong. root@x230:/usr/src # etcupdate -p A /lib/libc/gen/group A /lib/libc/gen/master.passwd -- Renato Botelho signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
svn commit: r347961 - head
Author: brd Date: Sat May 18 19:36:23 2019 New Revision: 347961 URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/347961 Log: Add note to UPDATING for users of mergemaster after the move of master.passwd and group in r347638. Approved by: allanjude (mentor) Modified: head/UPDATING Modified: head/UPDATING == --- head/UPDATING Sat May 18 19:32:38 2019(r347960) +++ head/UPDATING Sat May 18 19:36:23 2019(r347961) @@ -31,6 +31,12 @@ NOTE TO PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT FreeBSD 13.x IS SLOW: disable the most expensive debugging functionality run "ln -s 'abort:false,junk:false' /etc/malloc.conf".) +20190517: + For users of mergemaster, after recent changes to locations of + master.passwd and group in the source tree mergemaster needs to be + updated. Before running `mergemaster -p', cd to usr.sbin/mergemaster + and run `make install'. + 20190513: User-wired pages now have their own counter, vm.stats.vm.v_user_wire_count. The vm.max_wired sysctl was renamed ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
