Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
On 22/09/2020 23:40, Scott Long wrote: > Second, there’s a vibe in parts of this thread that are passive-aggressively > disrespectful to Greg. I encourage those who might feel some personal > frustration towards Greg to talk to him directly. The Core team can help with > that communication if needed. Otherwise, it’s not not appropriate and not > welcome on the mailing lists. If you don’t feel it’s important enough to > resolve in a professional manner, then please keep it to yourself. That was me. I apologized to Greg directly. And I want to do the same in public. It was inappropriate. I apologize. -- Andriy Gapon ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
>> >> Does this file still need to be in FreeBSD? It may have been a novel= >> ty back >> in the day but IMO calendar.history has nothing to do with BSD, comp= >> uters >> or anything else of interest to FreeBSD. At the very least this file= >> should >> be moved to ports or better yet, removed entirely. I simply don't se= >> e the >> point of it being in the tree and distributed with an O/S, any O/S. =20 I think that the only reason for this file's existence in the source tr= >> ee is for Greg's staving off the commit bit reaper. No offense meant. =20 P.S. And occasional flame wars, it seems. >>> =20 >>> We already had a similar discussion in march 2020 after r358561 [1]. >>> =20 >>> In the short, the calendar utility has it's historic place, even it's >>> just more a kind of tradition, like adding yourself as a FreeBSD committer >>> to calendar.freebsd. >>> =20 >>> [1] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-all/2020-March/thread.html >> >> Would it make sense to prune calendar entries to only BSD-related >> entries? > > +1 > > Responding to the most recent message here, but there are a couple of things that warrant a response. First, proposals for technical action, like re-arranging or removing the calendar module, should happen on arch@, not here. Please formulate a proposal and move the discuss to that forum. Second, there’s a vibe in parts of this thread that are passive-aggressively disrespectful to Greg. I encourage those who might feel some personal frustration towards Greg to talk to him directly. The Core team can help with that communication if needed. Otherwise, it’s not not appropriate and not welcome on the mailing lists. If you don’t feel it’s important enough to resolve in a professional manner, then please keep it to yourself. Thanks, Scott ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
In message <20200922192424.mnzunuwnjtwfwilh@mutt-hbsd>, Shawn Webb writes: > > --ftu52o6ib5uewj7t > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 09:18:43PM +0200, Gordon Bergling wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 09:01:46PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > > > On 22/09/2020 06:06, Conrad Meyer wrote: > > > > Big ol plus one from me. > > > >=20 > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 4:16 PM Cy Schubert m> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> In message <202009212255.08lmtpsp078...@repo.freebsd.org>, Greg Lehey > > > >> writes: > > > >>> Author: grog > > > >>> Date: Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020 > > > >>> New Revision: 365984 > > > >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/365984 > > > >>> > > > >>> Log: > > > >>> Remove claim that Allied Forces created "West Germany" in 1953. = > I can > > > >>> find no historic substantiation for such a claim. The Federal > > > >>> Republic of Germany was created by Germans on 23 May 1949, as also > > > >>> noted in this file. > > > >>> > > > >>> Modified: > > > >>> head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history > > > >>> > > > >>> Modified: head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history > > > >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > >>> =3D > > > >>> --- head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history Mon Sep 21 22= > :52:57 202 > > > >>> 0 (r365983) > > > >>> +++ head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history Mon Sep 21 22= > :55:51 202 > > > >>> 0 (r365984) > > > >>> @@ -521,7 +521,6 @@ > > > >>> 09/20Magellan leaves Spain on the first Round the World pa= > ssage, 151 > > > >>> 9 > > > >>> 09/20The Roxy Theater opens in Hollywood, 1973 > > > >>> 09/21J. R. R. Tolkien's The Hobbit is published, 1937 > > > >>> -09/22Allied forces form the independent nation West German= > y, 1953 > > > >>> 09/22US President Lincoln issues the Emancipation Proclama= > tion, 1862 > > > >>> 09/22Special prosecutor Leon Jeworski subpoenas US Preside= > nt Nixon, > > > >>> 1974 > > > >>> 09/22The first Soviet atomic bomb explodes, 1949 > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> Does this file still need to be in FreeBSD? It may have been a novel= > ty back > > > >> in the day but IMO calendar.history has nothing to do with BSD, comp= > uters > > > >> or anything else of interest to FreeBSD. At the very least this file= > should > > > >> be moved to ports or better yet, removed entirely. I simply don't se= > e the > > > >> point of it being in the tree and distributed with an O/S, any O/S. > > >=20 > > > I think that the only reason for this file's existence in the source tr= > ee is for > > > Greg's staving off the commit bit reaper. > > > No offense meant. > > >=20 > > > P.S. > > > And occasional flame wars, it seems. > >=20 > > We already had a similar discussion in march 2020 after r358561 [1]. > >=20 > > In the short, the calendar utility has it's historic place, even it's > > just more a kind of tradition, like adding yourself as a FreeBSD committer > > to calendar.freebsd. > >=20 > > [1] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-all/2020-March/thread.html > > Would it make sense to prune calendar entries to only BSD-related > entries? +1 -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 09:18:43PM +0200, Gordon Bergling wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 09:01:46PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > > On 22/09/2020 06:06, Conrad Meyer wrote: > > > Big ol plus one from me. > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 4:16 PM Cy Schubert > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> In message <202009212255.08lmtpsp078...@repo.freebsd.org>, Greg Lehey > > >> writes: > > >>> Author: grog > > >>> Date: Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020 > > >>> New Revision: 365984 > > >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/365984 > > >>> > > >>> Log: > > >>> Remove claim that Allied Forces created "West Germany" in 1953. I can > > >>> find no historic substantiation for such a claim. The Federal > > >>> Republic of Germany was created by Germans on 23 May 1949, as also > > >>> noted in this file. > > >>> > > >>> Modified: > > >>> head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history > > >>> > > >>> Modified: head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history > > >>> = > > >>> = > > >>> --- head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history Mon Sep 21 > > >>> 22:52:57 202 > > >>> 0 (r365983) > > >>> +++ head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history Mon Sep 21 > > >>> 22:55:51 202 > > >>> 0 (r365984) > > >>> @@ -521,7 +521,6 @@ > > >>> 09/20Magellan leaves Spain on the first Round the World > > >>> passage, 151 > > >>> 9 > > >>> 09/20The Roxy Theater opens in Hollywood, 1973 > > >>> 09/21J. R. R. Tolkien's The Hobbit is published, 1937 > > >>> -09/22Allied forces form the independent nation West Germany, > > >>> 1953 > > >>> 09/22US President Lincoln issues the Emancipation > > >>> Proclamation, 1862 > > >>> 09/22Special prosecutor Leon Jeworski subpoenas US President > > >>> Nixon, > > >>> 1974 > > >>> 09/22The first Soviet atomic bomb explodes, 1949 > > >>> > > >> > > >> Does this file still need to be in FreeBSD? It may have been a novelty > > >> back > > >> in the day but IMO calendar.history has nothing to do with BSD, computers > > >> or anything else of interest to FreeBSD. At the very least this file > > >> should > > >> be moved to ports or better yet, removed entirely. I simply don't see the > > >> point of it being in the tree and distributed with an O/S, any O/S. > > > > I think that the only reason for this file's existence in the source tree > > is for > > Greg's staving off the commit bit reaper. > > No offense meant. > > > > P.S. > > And occasional flame wars, it seems. > > We already had a similar discussion in march 2020 after r358561 [1]. > > In the short, the calendar utility has it's historic place, even it's > just more a kind of tradition, like adding yourself as a FreeBSD committer > to calendar.freebsd. > > [1] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-all/2020-March/thread.html Would it make sense to prune calendar entries to only BSD-related entries? Thanks, -- Shawn Webb Cofounder / Security Engineer HardenedBSD GPG Key ID: 0xFF2E67A277F8E1FA GPG Key Fingerprint: D206 BB45 15E0 9C49 0CF9 3633 C85B 0AF8 AB23 0FB2 https://git-01.md.hardenedbsd.org/HardenedBSD/pubkeys/src/branch/master/Shawn_Webb/03A4CBEBB82EA5A67D9F3853FF2E67A277F8E1FA.pub.asc signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 09:01:46PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > On 22/09/2020 06:06, Conrad Meyer wrote: > > Big ol plus one from me. > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 4:16 PM Cy Schubert > > wrote: > >> > >> In message <202009212255.08lmtpsp078...@repo.freebsd.org>, Greg Lehey > >> writes: > >>> Author: grog > >>> Date: Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020 > >>> New Revision: 365984 > >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/365984 > >>> > >>> Log: > >>> Remove claim that Allied Forces created "West Germany" in 1953. I can > >>> find no historic substantiation for such a claim. The Federal > >>> Republic of Germany was created by Germans on 23 May 1949, as also > >>> noted in this file. > >>> > >>> Modified: > >>> head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history > >>> > >>> Modified: head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history > >>> = > >>> = > >>> --- head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history Mon Sep 21 22:52:57 > >>> 202 > >>> 0 (r365983) > >>> +++ head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 > >>> 202 > >>> 0 (r365984) > >>> @@ -521,7 +521,6 @@ > >>> 09/20Magellan leaves Spain on the first Round the World passage, > >>> 151 > >>> 9 > >>> 09/20The Roxy Theater opens in Hollywood, 1973 > >>> 09/21J. R. R. Tolkien's The Hobbit is published, 1937 > >>> -09/22Allied forces form the independent nation West Germany, 1953 > >>> 09/22US President Lincoln issues the Emancipation Proclamation, > >>> 1862 > >>> 09/22Special prosecutor Leon Jeworski subpoenas US President > >>> Nixon, > >>> 1974 > >>> 09/22The first Soviet atomic bomb explodes, 1949 > >>> > >> > >> Does this file still need to be in FreeBSD? It may have been a novelty back > >> in the day but IMO calendar.history has nothing to do with BSD, computers > >> or anything else of interest to FreeBSD. At the very least this file should > >> be moved to ports or better yet, removed entirely. I simply don't see the > >> point of it being in the tree and distributed with an O/S, any O/S. > > I think that the only reason for this file's existence in the source tree is > for > Greg's staving off the commit bit reaper. > No offense meant. > > P.S. > And occasional flame wars, it seems. We already had a similar discussion in march 2020 after r358561 [1]. In the short, the calendar utility has it's historic place, even it's just more a kind of tradition, like adding yourself as a FreeBSD committer to calendar.freebsd. [1] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-all/2020-March/thread.html -- Gordon ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
On 22/09/2020 06:06, Conrad Meyer wrote: > Big ol plus one from me. > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 4:16 PM Cy Schubert wrote: >> >> In message <202009212255.08lmtpsp078...@repo.freebsd.org>, Greg Lehey >> writes: >>> Author: grog >>> Date: Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020 >>> New Revision: 365984 >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/365984 >>> >>> Log: >>> Remove claim that Allied Forces created "West Germany" in 1953. I can >>> find no historic substantiation for such a claim. The Federal >>> Republic of Germany was created by Germans on 23 May 1949, as also >>> noted in this file. >>> >>> Modified: >>> head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history >>> >>> Modified: head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history >>> = >>> = >>> --- head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history Mon Sep 21 22:52:57 >>> 202 >>> 0 (r365983) >>> +++ head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 >>> 202 >>> 0 (r365984) >>> @@ -521,7 +521,6 @@ >>> 09/20Magellan leaves Spain on the first Round the World passage, >>> 151 >>> 9 >>> 09/20The Roxy Theater opens in Hollywood, 1973 >>> 09/21J. R. R. Tolkien's The Hobbit is published, 1937 >>> -09/22Allied forces form the independent nation West Germany, 1953 >>> 09/22US President Lincoln issues the Emancipation Proclamation, >>> 1862 >>> 09/22Special prosecutor Leon Jeworski subpoenas US President Nixon, >>> 1974 >>> 09/22The first Soviet atomic bomb explodes, 1949 >>> >> >> Does this file still need to be in FreeBSD? It may have been a novelty back >> in the day but IMO calendar.history has nothing to do with BSD, computers >> or anything else of interest to FreeBSD. At the very least this file should >> be moved to ports or better yet, removed entirely. I simply don't see the >> point of it being in the tree and distributed with an O/S, any O/S. I think that the only reason for this file's existence in the source tree is for Greg's staving off the commit bit reaper. No offense meant. P.S. And occasional flame wars, it seems. -- Andriy Gapon ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: Ian Lepore wrote in : |On Tue, 2020-09-22 at 16:02 +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: |> Greg Lehey wrote in |> <202009212255.08lmtpsp078...@repo.freebsd.org>: |>|Author: grog |>|Date: Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020 |>|New Revision: 365984 |>|URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/365984 |>| |>|Log: |>| Remove claim that Allied Forces created "West Germany" in |> 1953. I can |>| find no historic substantiation for such a claim. The Federal |>| Republic of Germany was created by Germans on 23 May 1949, as |> also |>| noted in this file. |> |> I could imagine it was Konrad Adenauer (chancellor at that time) |> refusing (let aside western war winners) the Sowjet offer to |> reunite Germany shall Germany henceforth exist as a "neutral |> state" in the same sense as Switzerland claims to be neutral. |> He refused, instead forward looking to rearm the German army. |> That is, turning Germany to a part of the Western Alliance |> explicitly and willingly. Or was that in 1949? Hm. | |And this is why I agree with Cy and Conrad that we should not be trying |to be wikipedia lite. [offtopic trimmed] Yet again, that's exactly why this needs to go, political stuff has no place in the OS source. ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
Ian Lepore wrote in <65448d226d8cf4318c1db49af993a14e54034dab.ca...@freebsd.org>: |And now you're arguing about the factual correctness of your comment in |reply to my comment which wasn't about the facts at all. | |Thank you for proving my point most elequently about why we should not |be purveyors of trivia or general knowledge. Not true. I even gave the suggestion to return to the original calendar approach. Furthermore everything should be taken with a grain of salt like i think Warner Losh would say it, even if it comes from the FreeBSD community. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt) ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
On Tue, 2020-09-22 at 17:56 +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
> Ian Lepore wrote in
> :
> |On Tue, 2020-09-22 at 16:02 +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
> |> Greg Lehey wrote in
> |> <202009212255.08lmtpsp078...@repo.freebsd.org>:
> |>|Author: grog
> |>|Date: Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020
> |>|New Revision: 365984
> |>|URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/365984
> |>|
> |>|Log:
> |>| Remove claim that Allied Forces created "West Germany" in
> |> 1953. I can
> |>| find no historic substantiation for such a claim. The Federal
> |>| Republic of Germany was created by Germans on 23 May 1949, as
> |> also
> |>| noted in this file.
> |>
> |> I could imagine it was Konrad Adenauer (chancellor at that time)
> |> refusing (let aside western war winners) the Sowjet offer to
> |> reunite Germany shall Germany henceforth exist as a "neutral
> |> state" in the same sense as Switzerland claims to be neutral.
> |> He refused, instead forward looking to rearm the German army.
> |> That is, turning Germany to a part of the Western Alliance
> |> explicitly and willingly. Or was that in 1949? Hm.
> |
> |And this is why I agree with Cy and Conrad that we should not be
> trying
> |to be wikipedia lite.
>
> Not finding anything at all that is to say then?
> On Wikipedia there is lobbyism and even war in big style for sure,
> you can very often see this.
> In fact, _this_ calendar entry is so fine because it mentions
> something that is not talked about in Germany, the last time
> i have heard it in the public was about twenty years ago, wait, it
> was in fact 2003 during the German public law TV show "Greatest
> Germans", and once the brave man said it ("sometimes the truth has
> to be told") it came out how that audience was mounted, because
> a loud LIE! could be heard. And yes, Konrad Adenauer was
> voted the greatest german of all time, a wise and comprehensible
> decision, outperforming those dwarfs like Goethe, Schiller,
> Beethoven, Einstein, Bach, and our wonderful emperor even. I do
> not understand!
>
> The calendar program came into BSD in 1981 and originally only
> looked for per user calendar files.
> I am using this program ever since i started using FreeBSD, now
> also on Linux. Other than that i cannot help it, you know.
> But it is great that just recently someone pimped the codebase in
> order to make it work with other calendar formats also, i think.
> (I cloned that specific repository in addition the second i read
> the announcement. Have not tried it yet though. But will keep
> it.)
>
And now you're arguing about the factual correctness of your comment in
reply to my comment which wasn't about the facts at all.
Thank you for proving my point most elequently about why we should not
be purveyors of trivia or general knowledge.
-- Ian
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Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
Ian Lepore wrote in
:
|On Tue, 2020-09-22 at 16:02 +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
|> Greg Lehey wrote in
|> <202009212255.08lmtpsp078...@repo.freebsd.org>:
|>|Author: grog
|>|Date: Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020
|>|New Revision: 365984
|>|URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/365984
|>|
|>|Log:
|>| Remove claim that Allied Forces created "West Germany" in
|> 1953. I can
|>| find no historic substantiation for such a claim. The Federal
|>| Republic of Germany was created by Germans on 23 May 1949, as
|> also
|>| noted in this file.
|>
|> I could imagine it was Konrad Adenauer (chancellor at that time)
|> refusing (let aside western war winners) the Sowjet offer to
|> reunite Germany shall Germany henceforth exist as a "neutral
|> state" in the same sense as Switzerland claims to be neutral.
|> He refused, instead forward looking to rearm the German army.
|> That is, turning Germany to a part of the Western Alliance
|> explicitly and willingly. Or was that in 1949? Hm.
|
|And this is why I agree with Cy and Conrad that we should not be trying
|to be wikipedia lite.
Not finding anything at all that is to say then?
On Wikipedia there is lobbyism and even war in big style for sure,
you can very often see this.
In fact, _this_ calendar entry is so fine because it mentions
something that is not talked about in Germany, the last time
i have heard it in the public was about twenty years ago, wait, it
was in fact 2003 during the German public law TV show "Greatest
Germans", and once the brave man said it ("sometimes the truth has
to be told") it came out how that audience was mounted, because
a loud LIE! could be heard. And yes, Konrad Adenauer was
voted the greatest german of all time, a wise and comprehensible
decision, outperforming those dwarfs like Goethe, Schiller,
Beethoven, Einstein, Bach, and our wonderful emperor even. I do
not understand!
The calendar program came into BSD in 1981 and originally only
looked for per user calendar files.
I am using this program ever since i started using FreeBSD, now
also on Linux. Other than that i cannot help it, you know.
But it is great that just recently someone pimped the codebase in
order to make it work with other calendar formats also, i think.
(I cloned that specific repository in addition the second i read
the announcement. Have not tried it yet though. But will keep
it.)
--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)
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Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
On Tue, 2020-09-22 at 16:02 +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote in > <202009212255.08lmtpsp078...@repo.freebsd.org>: > |Author: grog > |Date: Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020 > |New Revision: 365984 > |URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/365984 > | > |Log: > | Remove claim that Allied Forces created "West Germany" in > 1953. I can > | find no historic substantiation for such a claim. The Federal > | Republic of Germany was created by Germans on 23 May 1949, as > also > | noted in this file. > > I could imagine it was Konrad Adenauer (chancellor at that time) > refusing (let aside western war winners) the Sowjet offer to > reunite Germany shall Germany henceforth exist as a "neutral > state" in the same sense as Switzerland claims to be neutral. > He refused, instead forward looking to rearm the German army. > That is, turning Germany to a part of the Western Alliance > explicitly and willingly. Or was that in 1949? Hm. > > And this is why I agree with Cy and Conrad that we should not be trying to be wikipedia lite. -- Ian ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
Greg Lehey wrote in <202009212255.08lmtpsp078...@repo.freebsd.org>: |Author: grog |Date: Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020 |New Revision: 365984 ... | head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history By the way, on DragonFly there was a rewrite of the calendar(1) program, it seems to have improved! --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt) ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
Greg Lehey wrote in <202009212255.08lmtpsp078...@repo.freebsd.org>: |Author: grog |Date: Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020 |New Revision: 365984 |URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/365984 | |Log: | Remove claim that Allied Forces created "West Germany" in 1953. I can | find no historic substantiation for such a claim. The Federal | Republic of Germany was created by Germans on 23 May 1949, as also | noted in this file. I could imagine it was Konrad Adenauer (chancellor at that time) refusing (let aside western war winners) the Sowjet offer to reunite Germany shall Germany henceforth exist as a "neutral state" in the same sense as Switzerland claims to be neutral. He refused, instead forward looking to rearm the German army. That is, turning Germany to a part of the Western Alliance explicitly and willingly. Or was that in 1949? Hm. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt) ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
Big ol plus one from me. On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 4:16 PM Cy Schubert wrote: > > In message <202009212255.08lmtpsp078...@repo.freebsd.org>, Greg Lehey > writes: > > Author: grog > > Date: Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020 > > New Revision: 365984 > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/365984 > > > > Log: > > Remove claim that Allied Forces created "West Germany" in 1953. I can > > find no historic substantiation for such a claim. The Federal > > Republic of Germany was created by Germans on 23 May 1949, as also > > noted in this file. > > > > Modified: > > head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history > > > > Modified: head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history > > = > > = > > --- head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history Mon Sep 21 22:52:57 > > 202 > > 0 (r365983) > > +++ head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 > > 202 > > 0 (r365984) > > @@ -521,7 +521,6 @@ > > 09/20Magellan leaves Spain on the first Round the World passage, > > 151 > > 9 > > 09/20The Roxy Theater opens in Hollywood, 1973 > > 09/21J. R. R. Tolkien's The Hobbit is published, 1937 > > -09/22Allied forces form the independent nation West Germany, 1953 > > 09/22US President Lincoln issues the Emancipation Proclamation, > > 1862 > > 09/22Special prosecutor Leon Jeworski subpoenas US President Nixon, > > 1974 > > 09/22The first Soviet atomic bomb explodes, 1949 > > > > Does this file still need to be in FreeBSD? It may have been a novelty back > in the day but IMO calendar.history has nothing to do with BSD, computers > or anything else of interest to FreeBSD. At the very least this file should > be moved to ports or better yet, removed entirely. I simply don't see the > point of it being in the tree and distributed with an O/S, any O/S. > > > -- > Cheers, > Cy Schubert > FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org > NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org > > The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. > > ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
In message <202009212255.08lmtpsp078...@repo.freebsd.org>, Greg Lehey writes: > Author: grog > Date: Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020 > New Revision: 365984 > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/365984 > > Log: > Remove claim that Allied Forces created "West Germany" in 1953. I can > find no historic substantiation for such a claim. The Federal > Republic of Germany was created by Germans on 23 May 1949, as also > noted in this file. > > Modified: > head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history > > Modified: head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history > = > = > --- head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history Mon Sep 21 22:52:57 202 > 0 (r365983) > +++ head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 202 > 0 (r365984) > @@ -521,7 +521,6 @@ > 09/20Magellan leaves Spain on the first Round the World passage, 151 > 9 > 09/20The Roxy Theater opens in Hollywood, 1973 > 09/21J. R. R. Tolkien's The Hobbit is published, 1937 > -09/22Allied forces form the independent nation West Germany, 1953 > 09/22US President Lincoln issues the Emancipation Proclamation, 1862 > 09/22Special prosecutor Leon Jeworski subpoenas US President Nixon, > 1974 > 09/22The first Soviet atomic bomb explodes, 1949 > Does this file still need to be in FreeBSD? It may have been a novelty back in the day but IMO calendar.history has nothing to do with BSD, computers or anything else of interest to FreeBSD. At the very least this file should be moved to ports or better yet, removed entirely. I simply don't see the point of it being in the tree and distributed with an O/S, any O/S. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
svn commit: r365984 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
Author: grog Date: Mon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020 New Revision: 365984 URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/365984 Log: Remove claim that Allied Forces created "West Germany" in 1953. I can find no historic substantiation for such a claim. The Federal Republic of Germany was created by Germans on 23 May 1949, as also noted in this file. Modified: head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history Modified: head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.history == --- head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.historyMon Sep 21 22:52:57 2020(r365983) +++ head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.historyMon Sep 21 22:55:51 2020(r365984) @@ -521,7 +521,6 @@ 09/20 Magellan leaves Spain on the first Round the World passage, 1519 09/20 The Roxy Theater opens in Hollywood, 1973 09/21 J. R. R. Tolkien's The Hobbit is published, 1937 -09/22 Allied forces form the independent nation West Germany, 1953 09/22 US President Lincoln issues the Emancipation Proclamation, 1862 09/22 Special prosecutor Leon Jeworski subpoenas US President Nixon, 1974 09/22 The first Soviet atomic bomb explodes, 1949 ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
