Re: [SWCollect] Infocom games' boxes
Let's put it this way: I have no problem sharing my sources with you guys *after* I've picked them clean. ;-) Which is what I was expecting Pedro to do. Which is what I expect we all do. For example, I can tell you guys that there are several Cyber Exchanges and Software ReRuns around where I live (Naperville, IL, USA). I tell you this because I've already picked them clean for my own purposes. I'm helping by sharing, and I'm not worried about missing a deal because I've already been there. But what about sources that get new stuff in regularly? Do you really want to share your best hunting grounds with a bunch of other collectors? B-) Why not? Well, I know no/nearly no shops that get old games regularly. I'm not sure if that game shop I directed you to receives stuff in regularly. (Probably not, but I had absolutely no idea when I shared the address with you). I'm now in conversations with a new gold mine that has several rare games (at least as far as RPGs go)... at $1 each! I'll post a list in case you're interested to know (14 of them are already ordered by the way :) 4D Sports Boxing Abandoned Places ADD Dungeon Hack ADD Eye 3 All American Girl Screen Saver Windows Altered Destiny Armour-Geddon ATAC BAT Battle Isle Battle Isle 93 Battle of Britain Battledrome Battlehawks 1942 Battles of Destiny Bitstream True Type Font Pack Bloodstone Blue Max Budokan Callahan Screen Saver Campaign Campaign 2 Challenge of the 5 Realms Chaos the Software Clipmaster Pro Coaches Club Challenge Football Colonization Conquest of Camelot Cyber Empires D/generation Dacula Daemons Gate Darkspyre Daughter of Serpents Dawn Patrol Delrina Win Com Pro Design Estimator Discovery Steps of Columbus Doom 2 Screen Saver Dr. Floyd's Desktop Toys Dracula Elvira Elvira 2 Expert Calendar F-19 Falcon 3.0 Formula One Fountain of Dreams Four Crystals of Trazere Front Page Sports Football Future Wars Global Conquest Global Effect Gold of the Aztecs Gunship 2000 Gunship 2000 Scenario Hard Nova Hired Guns Hollywood Squares Hornet Falcon add on Indianapolis 500 Innocent Until Caught Isle of the Dead It's Watching you Spirit Adventure Jeopardy Deluxe Jetfighter 2 Jones in the Fast Lane Killing Cloud Knights of the Sky Land Sea Air 2 Laser Squad Legend of Faerghail Les Manley Lost in L.A. Lexicross Links Mauna Kea Lost Admiral Lure of the Temptress Magnettic Scrolls Mantis Megalomania Mickey ABC 2.0 Microleague football Microleague football 2 Mig 29 Millennium Mini Putt My Maillist NHL Hockey Nomad Operation Combat 2 Paladin 2 Perfect General Populous Power Monger Pro Tennis Tour Prophecy of the Shadow Protostar Purple Saturn Day Quadralien Quest for Glory 4 Quicken 5 Quicken version 2 for Windows Railroad Tycoon Classic Realms of Arkania Red Storm Rising Return of the Phantom Rise of the Triadd Sabre Team Sea Rogue Search for the King Serve Volley Spacewrecked Special Forces Star Control Stargoose Warrior Stellar 7 256 Stike Commander speech Stunts Subwar 2050 Team Yankee Terminator 2029 Mission Test Drive 3 Test Drive 3:Road Car #1 Theater of Death Theater of War Thunderhawk Tornado Traders Trial by Fire Triango Tristan Pinball Twilight 2000 Unnatural Selection Unnecessary Roughness Utopia V For Victory Velikiy Luki Vaxine Veil of Darkness Virtual Reality Studio Virtual Reality V2.0 Wacky Wheels warriors of Legend WaxWorks Wild Wheels Wonderland Word A Day World War 2 X-Com 2 Terror from the Deep Xiphos (Many of them are shrinkwrapped, btw) Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] All your base are belong to us http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices
Stephen Lee wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Pedro Quaresma wrote: [snip] PS: Never mind, I think I figured it out: He's uneducated; he listed Fountain of Dreams as very rare Wasteland sequel. It's not rare at all, nor is it the true sequel. It isn't the true sequel, but it is fairly uncommon, and it was considered a sequel (until people realised that Tim Cain wasn't even part of the project! ;) Wasteland and Fountain of Dreams, IIRC, were for many years the only two post-nuke RPGs in the market Well, heh, Fountain of Dreams was generally considered to be better than Scavengers of the Mutant World. Yeah, I forgot that one :( OTOH, I'd like a copy of Scavengers, since, well, it's an RPG and I don't have a copy. Seems to be pretty rare, I haven't found it anywhere either. Not that I've looked too hard, but I really haven't seen it. (That's another for your list. Superhero League of Hoboken isn't a post-nuke scenario, BTW; it's more of a post-acute-global-warming-and-other-assorted-catastrophes scenario.) It's nevertheless a post-catastrophe RPG, and the game surely looks like it's post-nuke... it's hard to call it simply sci-fi, so Jim may want to include it on the post-nukes. I think there were one or two other old post-nuke RPG's as well, but they were all comparable in quality to Fountain of Dreams from what I can remember. I've never played much FoD, I admit, so I can't share my opinion, but as far as RPGs go, I think we have them all covered... I just remembered a whole new category... Terror games, or do you have it already, Jim? -- Stephen Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] All your base are belong to us http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Ultimas (was: Infocom games' boxes)
Pedro Quaresma wrote: For example, I can tell you guys that there are several Cyber Exchanges and Software ReRuns around where I live (Naperville, IL, USA). I tell you this because I've already picked them clean for my own purposes. You didn't pick the RPGs, did you? :) Nope. I don't collect RPGs. In fact, I think I collect everything that you guys *don't* collect. That's great, you wouldn't happen to have one of those shop's lists handy, would you? :) I'm helping by sharing, and I'm not worried about missing a deal because I've already been there. I'm rarely worried about missing a deal even if I haven't been there yet... unless there's an Akalabeth or Ultima CPC listed or something... 0:) I'll drop a bomb, here: I don't know what you're talking about when you say Ultima CPC. Could you explain? *gasp* ;) Oh, OK. Ultima CPC == Ultima by California Pacific Computers More detailed: Before Richard Garriott created Origin (or had the money to), in 1977 if I'm not mistaken, he sold 12 handsigned and numbered copies of his first game, Akalabeth. Of course, selling games without the help of a computer-related company isn't easy, so he signed up a contract with CPC for the release of Akalabeth. Next year, he made another game, it was going to be called Ultimate, but because of copyrights, he had to call it... Ultima. California Pacific Computers also released this one (This game later on was converted to 16 colors and renamed Ultima I The First Age of Darkness) Here's another bomb: I have never, ever liked any Ultimas. I find them contrived and scatterbrain; I feel the storylines are manufactured and trite. I think you were never more wrong in your entire life :) Read below And most of all, the name Lord British really rubs me the wrong way -- it rubbed me the wrong way when I first saw it on the bootup screen of Ultima 2 and it still rubs me the wrong way today. Hugh Falk got this one covered. It was indeed something that his colleagues called him because he had (has) a very nice English accent. It's a dorky, grammatically-incorrect handle. When I hear the name Lord British, I picture a pimply 14-yr-old trying to think of a cool handle to choose when signing onto a BBS door. I picture a very intelligent boy, who had no idea that one day, a great game collector, would sell a handsigned version of his first game for a five-digit-value. (If Jason Cobb reads this mailing list, he can give more details about it). Even the lowest possible value is astounding. $1 for a floppy! I am the only software collector in the world who doesn't like Ultima. No, there are more :) I love Origin, just not Ultima. If there is any one thing that any one Ultima game does better than *all* other RPGs, I'd sure like to know. (If you want to reply :-) please do so privately as I don't think everyone on the list wants to hear a flamewar over Ultima.) There's no need to start a flamewar, we can talk about it calmly, and I think more collectors want to share their opinions on the list. The two things that Ultimas did better than *all* other RPGs were: - World interaction (this includes NPC interaction) - Storyline and plot The first one is self-explanatory. The interactions with the NPCs are far more interesting and detailed than in any other RPG. NPCs have a life and personality of their own, a face (extremely important), habits, and good conversations, starting mainly with U6. Also, the interaction with the world was great. In U6, you can pick up almost everything. In U7, you can even reap corn, make wheat, bake bread on the oven... About storyline, well, I assume you have never played Ultima 4, probably considered by most the best RPG in history (not my favorite, so I'm not biased here... not even Tom's favorite, and IIRC not Stephen's favorite, but it was indeed a masterpiece) It was the first RPG in which defeating evil or killing the bad guy wasn't the main plot. The whole point of the game was to become a better man, to live by the virtues and make people believe that living towards Justice, Compassion, Spirituality, Sacrifice, Honesty, Humility, Valor and Honor would make everyone's life happier. Thus, the objective, was to become an Avatar of these virtues (hence the name). Now if this wasn't a marvellous storyline in the mid-80s, what was? Which other RPG had such great storylines? Well... other Ultimas of course. But I will leave Ultima 6 for a future conversation :) I hope everyone, even if not agreeing with me, found this opinion constructive. :) Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] All your base are belong to us http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available
Re: [SWCollect] Infocom games' boxes
C.E. Forman wrote: Let's put it this way: I have no problem sharing my sources with you guys *after* I've picked them clean. ;-) Which is what I was expecting Pedro to do. Which is what I expect we all do. For example, I can tell you guys that there are several Cyber Exchanges and Software ReRuns around where I live (Naperville, IL, USA). I tell you this because I've already picked them clean for my own purposes. I'm helping by sharing, and I'm not worried about missing a deal because I've already been there. But what about sources that get new stuff in regularly? Do you really want to share your best hunting grounds with a bunch of other collectors? B-) Well, that's a personal decision. But if you ever mention it in public, then you will be hounded until the rest of your days for the location :-) -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices
What the heck is a terror game? What I think he means are survival horror and similar games, designed to spook you. Granted, there havent' been too many successes here, especially in the the olden days (can really only think of two games that really scared me, Project Firestart and Aliens). But it has to be looked at as a genre in and of itself, since trying to evoke an emotion like fear in someone is a laudible goal in the effort to make games a true art form. Trantor http://www.trantornator.com -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices
Sounds plausible to me -- I would probably add Alone in the Dark to the list even though it is a cross-genre adventure. It certainly scared me! Karl Kuras wrote: What the heck is a terror game? What I think he means are survival horror and similar games, designed to spook you. Granted, there havent' been too many successes here, especially in the the olden days (can really only think of two games that really scared me, Project Firestart and Aliens). But it has to be looked at as a genre in and of itself, since trying to evoke an emotion like fear in someone is a laudible goal in the effort to make games a true art form. Trantor http://www.trantornator.com -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
[SWCollect] Recent IBM games
I went to the local used video game store this evening just to look around.* They also sell old overstock computer games. I discovered a couple published by IBM back in 1995. I was aware they published several games in the early days, but nothing so recent. Looking at MobyGames, I see one game from 1993, but all the rest are from the early-to-mid 1980s. I was particularly intrigued by one called Power: The Game. Anyone know if it's much fun? * Boring details: Well, actually, I was reading the copy of Halcyon Days (www.dadgum.com/giantlist) I recently bought. (*Highly* recommended to all subscribers of this list.) This revealed to me that Bill Budge released Pinball Construction Set on the Sega Genesis as Virtual Pinball. They, indeed, had two copies of it, but at $29.95 I'll pass! -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
