RE: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
Hey, we're back! Well my son is now 8 weeks, and so far so good. However, I feel he is slipping behind in the technology curve. Jim, how's that article coming? Best regards, Hugh -Original Message- From: Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again That will be a great help, Jim...thanks again! And thanks to all who have responded...I'll be out of touch again for a while thanks in advance to anyone I miss. David is our first baby... mom and baby are doing great! Talk to you all later, Hugh -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again Hugh Falk wrote: That's great stuff...thanks, Jim. I haven't been responding the last couple of days because my wife and I just gave birth to our first child (on the 30th). He's a big boy (9 lbs 9 oz.), but he still hasn't gotten the hang of touch typing yet. Oh well, hopefully by tomorrow. :-) Congratulations! Our 2nd was that large, and it wasn't an easy delivery -- hope yours went well and mommy is doing okay. I've starting writing an article on introducing kids to computers; I'll post a link here when I'm done with it. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
Congratulations Hugh! Karl Kuras - Original Message - From: Hugh Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again That's great stuff...thanks, Jim. I haven't been responding the last couple of days because my wife and I just gave birth to our first child (on the 30th). He's a big boy (9 lbs 9 oz.), but he still hasn't gotten the hang of touch typing yet. Oh well, hopefully by tomorrow. :-) Hugh -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again Chris Newman wrote: Congrats! I recently played Time Pilots with my 2-yr-old (he plays better than my wife!) and my 4.5-yr-old enjoys playing Pac-Man, Pac-Mania, Marble Madness, and Crystal Castles, so old games definitely come in handy. :) Corrupt them when they're young, that's what I say! When did you start weaning your first on a computer? I don't think neural implants are yet a viable technology so the pedestrian route it is. Ever since Sam (my firstborn) was 16 months I had been amusing him on the computer by starting up DeluxePaint and making a big brush (usually a circle) and just moving it around the screen in a funny way -- it made him laugh. When he turned two, I remembered I had an old pirated copy of Putt-Putt Joins the Parade (first game from Humongous Entertainment, founded by Ron Gilbert, uses SCUMM in fact) that I had kept because I was struck at the time (1992) by how good the music was. 7 years later I dusted the disks off and started it up one day to amuse Sam (then 2 yrs old) and played with the cursor again. But then I clicked on some object and made it do its thing, and he immediately stopped laughing and wanted to see more -- he was fascinated. So that's how it began. The first month (maybe doing this for 15 minutes a day) I moved the pointer. The second month, he tried to make it move but he had trouble with the mouse, which was exactly the excuse I needed to buy a Kingston $99 trakball (I prefer trakballs infinitely over mice), which he loved. It was immediately obvious to me how much more appropriate it was for a kid -- it has a big ball and can be lifted out for easy cleaning (of the ball). The third month, he was moving to something, then clicking on it. The fourth, he figured out dragging (with my help). So, at 2.5 yrs old, my son was playing Putt-Putt Joins The Parade by himself. I was elated -- I was hoping I could always teach him to read at age 2.5 like my Dad had done for me, but this was just as good -- both are viable skills needed for the future ;-) For those thinking of introducing their kids to educational games, I am more than happy to give advice -- hell, I should probably write an essay on it. For those interested: Sam has his own gaming rig now, an old Pentium Pro 200 that I'm not using. The Kingston Trakball is mine, but I got him a $29 Logitech optical trakball that is a much better choice for him. The ball is smaller, but the advantages outweigh that fact: - It's cheaper - The unit is optical, so the only moving part you have to clean is the ball itself, which lifts right out - Being optical, there's no slipping due to, oh, say, peanut butter and jelly gunk on it ;-) - Being USB (high sample rate) and optical, you can get an exact 1:1 movement ratio if you disable pointer acceleration, which is the most natural method of using a trakball and he just flys with it (I have since moved to an optical+USB+no pointer acceleration setup myself and love it) He also starts his own games. This magic was created by installing Win 98, turning ON the single-click-to-launch-an-icon option, and buying CD Copier (Daemon tools does the same thing and is free, but limited) and using it to dump all of his educational games to CD images on the 4GB disk I stuck in there. I then mounted all of the CD images (which act as real CDs) to about 15 drive letters and stuck the installed games' icons on the desktop. He sits down, clicks on an icon once, and the game starts. I have about 200 or so other games I haven't yet listed for that reason. I suppose I could list them w/o a proper ad but I'm too compulsive to do that. Ah, more fuel for my fire of all software collectors have a neurological disorder. :-D I agree with you about the disorder too. At least it's a happy one, not so much a crack addiction but closer to a Ned Flanders belief in an optimistic world. Now that's a quote. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
That's great stuff...thanks, Jim. I haven't been responding the last couple of days because my wife and I just gave birth to our first child (on the 30th). He's a big boy (9 lbs 9 oz.), but he still hasn't gotten the hang of touch typing yet. Oh well, hopefully by tomorrow. :-) Hugh -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again Chris Newman wrote: Congrats! I recently played Time Pilots with my 2-yr-old (he plays better than my wife!) and my 4.5-yr-old enjoys playing Pac-Man, Pac-Mania, Marble Madness, and Crystal Castles, so old games definitely come in handy. :) Corrupt them when they're young, that's what I say! When did you start weaning your first on a computer? I don't think neural implants are yet a viable technology so the pedestrian route it is. Ever since Sam (my firstborn) was 16 months I had been amusing him on the computer by starting up DeluxePaint and making a big brush (usually a circle) and just moving it around the screen in a funny way -- it made him laugh. When he turned two, I remembered I had an old pirated copy of Putt-Putt Joins the Parade (first game from Humongous Entertainment, founded by Ron Gilbert, uses SCUMM in fact) that I had kept because I was struck at the time (1992) by how good the music was. 7 years later I dusted the disks off and started it up one day to amuse Sam (then 2 yrs old) and played with the cursor again. But then I clicked on some object and made it do its thing, and he immediately stopped laughing and wanted to see more -- he was fascinated. So that's how it began. The first month (maybe doing this for 15 minutes a day) I moved the pointer. The second month, he tried to make it move but he had trouble with the mouse, which was exactly the excuse I needed to buy a Kingston $99 trakball (I prefer trakballs infinitely over mice), which he loved. It was immediately obvious to me how much more appropriate it was for a kid -- it has a big ball and can be lifted out for easy cleaning (of the ball). The third month, he was moving to something, then clicking on it. The fourth, he figured out dragging (with my help). So, at 2.5 yrs old, my son was playing Putt-Putt Joins The Parade by himself. I was elated -- I was hoping I could always teach him to read at age 2.5 like my Dad had done for me, but this was just as good -- both are viable skills needed for the future ;-) For those thinking of introducing their kids to educational games, I am more than happy to give advice -- hell, I should probably write an essay on it. For those interested: Sam has his own gaming rig now, an old Pentium Pro 200 that I'm not using. The Kingston Trakball is mine, but I got him a $29 Logitech optical trakball that is a much better choice for him. The ball is smaller, but the advantages outweigh that fact: - It's cheaper - The unit is optical, so the only moving part you have to clean is the ball itself, which lifts right out - Being optical, there's no slipping due to, oh, say, peanut butter and jelly gunk on it ;-) - Being USB (high sample rate) and optical, you can get an exact 1:1 movement ratio if you disable pointer acceleration, which is the most natural method of using a trakball and he just flys with it (I have since moved to an optical+USB+no pointer acceleration setup myself and love it) He also starts his own games. This magic was created by installing Win 98, turning ON the single-click-to-launch-an-icon option, and buying CD Copier (Daemon tools does the same thing and is free, but limited) and using it to dump all of his educational games to CD images on the 4GB disk I stuck in there. I then mounted all of the CD images (which act as real CDs) to about 15 drive letters and stuck the installed games' icons on the desktop. He sits down, clicks on an icon once, and the game starts. I have about 200 or so other games I haven't yet listed for that reason. I suppose I could list them w/o a proper ad but I'm too compulsive to do that. Ah, more fuel for my fire of all software collectors have a neurological disorder. :-D I agree with you about the disorder too. At least it's a happy one, not so much a crack addiction but closer to a Ned Flanders belief in an optimistic world. Now that's a quote. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list
Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
Hugh Falk wrote: That's great stuff...thanks, Jim. I haven't been responding the last couple of days because my wife and I just gave birth to our first child (on the 30th). He's a big boy (9 lbs 9 oz.), but he still hasn't gotten the hang of touch typing yet. Oh well, hopefully by tomorrow. :-) Congratulations! Our 2nd was that large, and it wasn't an easy delivery -- hope yours went well and mommy is doing okay. I've starting writing an article on introducing kids to computers; I'll post a link here when I'm done with it. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
That will be a great help, Jim...thanks again! And thanks to all who have responded...I'll be out of touch again for a while thanks in advance to anyone I miss. David is our first baby... mom and baby are doing great! Talk to you all later, Hugh -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again Hugh Falk wrote: That's great stuff...thanks, Jim. I haven't been responding the last couple of days because my wife and I just gave birth to our first child (on the 30th). He's a big boy (9 lbs 9 oz.), but he still hasn't gotten the hang of touch typing yet. Oh well, hopefully by tomorrow. :-) Congratulations! Our 2nd was that large, and it wasn't an easy delivery -- hope yours went well and mommy is doing okay. I've starting writing an article on introducing kids to computers; I'll post a link here when I'm done with it. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
Chris Newman wrote: Congrats! I recently played Time Pilots with my 2-yr-old (he plays better than my wife!) and my 4.5-yr-old enjoys playing Pac-Man, Pac-Mania, Marble Madness, and Crystal Castles, so old games definitely come in handy. :) Corrupt them when they're young, that's what I say! When did you start weaning your first on a computer? I don't think neural implants are yet a viable technology so the pedestrian route it is. Ever since Sam (my firstborn) was 16 months I had been amusing him on the computer by starting up DeluxePaint and making a big brush (usually a circle) and just moving it around the screen in a funny way -- it made him laugh. When he turned two, I remembered I had an old pirated copy of Putt-Putt Joins the Parade (first game from Humongous Entertainment, founded by Ron Gilbert, uses SCUMM in fact) that I had kept because I was struck at the time (1992) by how good the music was. 7 years later I dusted the disks off and started it up one day to amuse Sam (then 2 yrs old) and played with the cursor again. But then I clicked on some object and made it do its thing, and he immediately stopped laughing and wanted to see more -- he was fascinated. So that's how it began. The first month (maybe doing this for 15 minutes a day) I moved the pointer. The second month, he tried to make it move but he had trouble with the mouse, which was exactly the excuse I needed to buy a Kingston $99 trakball (I prefer trakballs infinitely over mice), which he loved. It was immediately obvious to me how much more appropriate it was for a kid -- it has a big ball and can be lifted out for easy cleaning (of the ball). The third month, he was moving to something, then clicking on it. The fourth, he figured out dragging (with my help). So, at 2.5 yrs old, my son was playing Putt-Putt Joins The Parade by himself. I was elated -- I was hoping I could always teach him to read at age 2.5 like my Dad had done for me, but this was just as good -- both are viable skills needed for the future ;-) For those thinking of introducing their kids to educational games, I am more than happy to give advice -- hell, I should probably write an essay on it. For those interested: Sam has his own gaming rig now, an old Pentium Pro 200 that I'm not using. The Kingston Trakball is mine, but I got him a $29 Logitech optical trakball that is a much better choice for him. The ball is smaller, but the advantages outweigh that fact: - It's cheaper - The unit is optical, so the only moving part you have to clean is the ball itself, which lifts right out - Being optical, there's no slipping due to, oh, say, peanut butter and jelly gunk on it ;-) - Being USB (high sample rate) and optical, you can get an exact 1:1 movement ratio if you disable pointer acceleration, which is the most natural method of using a trakball and he just flys with it (I have since moved to an optical+USB+no pointer acceleration setup myself and love it) He also starts his own games. This magic was created by installing Win 98, turning ON the single-click-to-launch-an-icon option, and buying CD Copier (Daemon tools does the same thing and is free, but limited) and using it to dump all of his educational games to CD images on the 4GB disk I stuck in there. I then mounted all of the CD images (which act as real CDs) to about 15 drive letters and stuck the installed games' icons on the desktop. He sits down, clicks on an icon once, and the game starts. I have about 200 or so other games I haven't yet listed for that reason. I suppose I could list them w/o a proper ad but I'm too compulsive to do that. Ah, more fuel for my fire of all software collectors have a neurological disorder. :-D I agree with you about the disorder too. At least it's a happy one, not so much a crack addiction but closer to a Ned Flanders belief in an optimistic world. Now that's a quote. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
C.E. Forman wrote: L00K -- Crispy mint impossible to find Ultima with a totally REAL moonthing! This game retailed for $69.95 and uses state of the art VGA graphics and Adlib sound. Get this TODAY. I've seen this go for like $200. This brings up something I've never understood: Why in God's name do some sellers persist in using L@@K!!! in their auction titles? Nobody ever searches on it. It's not even a word. Considering you only get 45 characters in the title, it's a waste of 4 + however many exclamations you add after. I c@uldn't agree with y@u m@re, Chris. G@d, I hate that. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
Dan Chisarick wrote: Read the bottom of this description (about the shrinkwrap). Sound reshrunk? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1266478226r=0t=0sh owTutorial=0ed=999065385indexURL=0rd=1 Based solely off of there are two .5 holes in the wrap on the front, and 1.5 hole on the back, there isn't enough information to determine either way if it is or isn't. A picture would help. I've dealt with allvideo before and I trust him. He was good enough to credit MobyGames when plagarizing our descriptions and pictures ;-D (just kidding) -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
Chris Newman wrote: Well, I bought it over a year ago from a large-scale software distributor who went out of business, not a mom-and-pop used game outlet. The wrap isn't the brittle kind, but on the other hand, the holes and seams look a little crude. I know the game is new, regardless. The dealer assured me as much, and I've dealt with him enough to trust him. I have to ask you, as long as you're here: Where the heck do you get the stuff you auction? Looking at current auctions, I'm seeing Ogre, Deja Vu, LucasArts collection, V for Victory... Very consistent values. Or do you just not auction off the crap? ;-) -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
Well, I bought those between 1 and 2 years ago from a guy who sold bargain software and since went out of business. I meant to auction them off much sooner, but I started a new job (dot.com -- went bust, thanks Nasdaq!) and didn't have much time. Doing those ads takes a very very long time, which I suddenly had when tossed out of work. I'm starting a new job next week, so I probably won't be doing ebay for awhile. Alot of the stuff comes from my own collection -- I'm actually listing everything I have (well, almost hahaha) because I need to make more room in the house, and I need a sudden influx of cash. Seems we are expecting our first child! I only list games I put together ads for. I have about 200 or so other games I haven't yet listed for that reason. I suppose I could list them w/o a proper ad but I'm too compulsive to do that. Jim Leonard wrote: Chris Newman wrote: Well, I bought it over a year ago from a large-scale software distributor who went out of business, not a mom-and-pop used game outlet. The wrap isn't the brittle kind, but on the other hand, the holes and seams look a little crude. I know the game is new, regardless. The dealer assured me as much, and I've dealt with him enough to trust him. I have to ask you, as long as you're here: Where the heck do you get the stuff you auction? Looking at current auctions, I'm seeing Ogre, Deja Vu, LucasArts collection, V for Victory... Very consistent values. Or do you just not auction off the crap? ;-) -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
Jim Leonard wrote: Chris Newman wrote: Alot of the stuff comes from my own collection -- I'm actually listing everything I have (well, almost hahaha) because I need to make more room in the house, and I need a sudden influx of cash. Seems we are expecting our first child! I only list Congrats! I recently played Time Pilots with my 2-yr-old (he plays better than my wife!) and my 4.5-yr-old enjoys playing Pac-Man, Pac-Mania, Marble Madness, and Crystal Castles, so old games definitely come in handy. :) Corrupt them when they're young, that's what I say! When did you start weaning your first on a computer? I don't think neural implants are yet a viable technology so the pedestrian route it is. games I put together ads for. I have about 200 or so other games I haven't yet listed for that reason. I suppose I could list them w/o a proper ad but I'm too compulsive to do that. Ah, more fuel for my fire of all software collectors have a neurological disorder. :-D If it's any consolation, your ebay ads are exquisitely crafted and a welcome change from the shite that is usually posted there (INFOCOM GAME RARE MINT!!!) Thanks alot. Coming from an expert like you that's a real compliment! There's nothing that bothers me more than a blatant ad by someone who doesn't know anything about a game or its impact (and much more importantly doesn't *care* enough to find out) but uses stupid buzzwords to generate hype: L00K -- Crispy mint impossible to find Ultima with a totally REAL moonthing! This game retailed for $69.95 and uses state of the art VGA graphics and Adlib sound. Get this TODAY. I've seen this go for like $200. Hello! Ultima VI came out over a decade ago! Retail price is irrelevant, and the state of the art has improved exponentially since then. I agree with you about the disorder too. At least it's a happy one, not so much a crack addiction but closer to a Ned Flanders belief in an optimistic world. http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
L00K -- Crispy mint impossible to find Ultima with a totally REAL moonthing! This game retailed for $69.95 and uses state of the art VGA graphics and Adlib sound. Get this TODAY. I've seen this go for like $200. This brings up something I've never understood: Why in God's name do some sellers persist in using L@@K!!! in their auction titles? Nobody ever searches on it. It's not even a word. Considering you only get 45 characters in the title, it's a waste of 4 + however many exclamations you add after. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
Or the obnoxious multiple exclamation points! I usually gloss over auctions with titles like that, unless I'm on a serious hunt. I really wish ebay would expand the title field. Can the impact on their databases be that heavy? What are they running? Solaris? C.E. Forman wrote: L00K -- Crispy mint impossible to find Ultima with a totally REAL moonthing! This game retailed for $69.95 and uses state of the art VGA graphics and Adlib sound. Get this TODAY. I've seen this go for like $200. This brings up something I've never understood: Why in God's name do some sellers persist in using L@@K!!! in their auction titles? Nobody ever searches on it. It's not even a word. Considering you only get 45 characters in the title, it's a waste of 4 + however many exclamations you add after. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
[SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
Read the bottom of this description (about the shrinkwrap). Sound reshrunk? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1266478226r=0t=0sh owTutorial=0ed=999065385indexURL=0rd=1 -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Shrinkwrap again
Well, I bought it over a year ago from a large-scale software distributor who went out of business, not a mom-and-pop used game outlet. The wrap isn't the brittle kind, but on the other hand, the holes and seams look a little crude. I know the game is new, regardless. The dealer assured me as much, and I've dealt with him enough to trust him. Chris Dan Chisarick wrote: Read the bottom of this description (about the shrinkwrap). Sound reshrunk? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1266478226r=0t=0sh owTutorial=0ed=999065385indexURL=0rd=1 -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
