Re: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll

2003-01-13 Thread Pedro Quaresma

This is something I discussed once with either Alexander Zöller or Richard Pickles: I believe the main reason that makes the mentioned games valuable was the "emptiness" of good adventures in the post-Monkey-Island-2 90s. 

The list mentioned by Stuart below are but a part of some good adventures (if I'm not mistaken all 5 of them are adventures) that came out in that period. Others like Flight of the Amazon Queen, Igor: Objective Uikokahonia, etc are also extremely rare _and_ coveted adventures, maybe because they were made in Europe.

For a certain period, it was amazing the kind of price that some of them would fetch on eBay. Mind you, some of them still fetch Myth-like prices!

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"Feldhamer, Stuart" wrote:
> 
> I don't like this poll much. Currently, Kilrathi Saga is winning, but you
> can buy a new shrinkwrapped Kilrathi Saga on ebay right now for $175. Last
> night I saw a mint opened one for $125. What about the following games from
> the 90s:
> 
> Alice: An Interactive Museum
> Duckman (English version)
> Orion Burger
> Bud Tucker in Double Trouble
> 3 Skulls of the Toltecs

But there is a difference between "rare" and "valuable", as I have found out
with my collection.  I have a lot of extremely rare pre-1990 action games for
the PC (Wibarm, for one) but I don't think anyone would call them valuable. 
What makes the above games valuable?

(No, I am not defending the poll -- I didn't write it :-)
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Re: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll

2003-01-10 Thread hughfalk
Sheesh, I just bought a very nice copy of Darklands on eBay a few weeks ago
for $6.

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:34:55 + Pedro Quaresma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Jim Leonard wrote:
> >Good grief, check ebay item #1948523698 --
> a used, opened System Shock 2, EA
> >Classics release, going for over $50
> canadian??  You can get that new for
> >$14!  Sheesh.  Some people are
> uneducated :)
> 
> That's what me and Alexander Zöller call an
> example of "Quaresma's Law" :) That's
> a minor one, btw, we've been spotting much
> worse! Look for example at this Darklands for
> $81..
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category050&item48952930
> 
> Pedro
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Re: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll

2003-01-10 Thread C.E. Forman



Personally I love it when I list an item with a 
very reasonable BuyItNow, but some lowballer gets greedy and tries to have it 
for the starting bid of $2, then a couple of newbies fight over it and end up 
making me $20 more than I thought possible.  B-)
 

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  Quaresma 
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  MobyGames poll
  Jim Leonard 
  wrote:>Good grief, check ebay 
  item #1948523698 -- a used, opened System Shock 2, EA>Classics release, 
  going for over $50 canadian??  You can get that new for>$14! 
   Sheesh.  Some people are uneducated :) That's what me and Alexander Zöller call an example of 
  "Quaresma's Law" :) That's a minor one, btw, we've been spotting much worse! 
  Look for example at this Darklands for $81.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11050&item=1948952930 
  Pedro --Pedro R. QuaresmaSalvador Caetano IMVTDiv. Sistemas 
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Re: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll

2003-01-10 Thread Pedro Quaresma

Jim Leonard wrote:
>Good grief, check ebay item #1948523698 -- a used, opened System Shock 2, EA
>Classics release, going for over $50 canadian??  You can get that new for
>$14!  Sheesh.  Some people are uneducated :)

That's what me and Alexander Zöller call an example of "Quaresma's Law" :) That's a minor one, btw, we've been spotting much worse! Look for example at this Darklands for $81..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11050&item=1948952930

Pedro

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Re: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll

2003-01-09 Thread Jim Leonard
I've seen EA CDROM Classics releases of System Shock CD, which is what mine
is, I think... I'll have to look.  But it certainly didn't seem that rare to
me...  So I guess we're talking about the original System Shock CD release.

Good grief, check ebay item #1948523698 -- a used, opened System Shock 2, EA
Classics release, going for over $50 canadian??  You can get that new for
$14!  Sheesh.  Some people are uneducated :)

Pedro Quaresma wrote:
> 
> It may not be as valuable or coveted but it's "more rare" than Ultima
> Martian Dreams, I believe.
> 
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> humanity." - Albert Einstein
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> Para: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> A/C:
>  "Feldhamer, Stuart"Ref:
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc:
> Assunto: RE: [SWCollect] Current
>  08-01-2003 15:43   MobyGames poll
>  Solicita-se resposta a swcollect
> 
> The CD version of System Shock isn't so rare either...I've seen it on ebay
> lots of times for $20 or so.
> 
> Stuart
> -----Original Message-
> From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll
> 
> And if variations count (which I think should do, since in the poll one
> option clearly specifies a CD version of a game), rare versions like 10th
> Anniversary Ultima 6 / Savage Empire should count or the CD version of
> System Shock
> 
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> 
> "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our
> humanity." - Albert Einstein
> 
> 
>   Para: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   A/C:
>   "Feldhamer, Stuart" Ref:
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  cc:
>   Assunto: RE: [SWCollect] Current
>   07-01-2003 21:51MobyGames poll
>   Solicita-se resposta a swcollect
> 
> I don't like this poll much. Currently, Kilrathi Saga is winning, but you
> can buy a new shrinkwrapped Kilrathi Saga on ebay right now for $175. Last
> night I saw a mint opened one for $125. What about the following games from
> the 90s:
> 
> Alice: An Interactive Museum
> Duckman (English version)
> Orion Burger
> Bud Tucker in Double Trouble
> 3 Skulls of the Toltecs
> 
> To name a few...I can think of a whole bunch more.
> 
> Stuart
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll
> 
> The current poll at www.mobygames.com is of interest to software collectors
> 
> Check it out and vote.
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RE: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll

2003-01-08 Thread Pedro Quaresma

It may not be as valuable or coveted but it's "more rare" than Ultima Martian Dreams, I believe.

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The CD version of System Shock isn't so rare either...I've seen it on ebay lots of times for $20 or so.
 
Stuart
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And if variations count (which I think should do, since in the poll one option clearly specifies a CD version of a game), rare versions like 10th Anniversary Ultima 6 / Savage Empire should count or the CD version of System Shock

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I don't like this poll much. Currently, Kilrathi Saga is winning, but you
can buy a new shrinkwrapped Kilrathi Saga on ebay right now for $175. Last
night I saw a mint opened one for $125. What about the following games from
the 90s:

Alice: An Interactive Museum
Duckman (English version)
Orion Burger
Bud Tucker in Double Trouble
3 Skulls of the Toltecs

To name a few...I can think of a whole bunch more.

Stuart

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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:35 PM
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Subject: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll


The current poll at www.mobygames.com is of interest to software collectors

Check it out and vote.
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RE: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll

2003-01-08 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart

I was an AVID gamer in the 90's also...the reason why neither you nor I
heard of these games until after they were no longer widely (if at all)
available is that EB didn't carry any of them. Alice was made by a Japanese
company (Synergy Interactive) and was not widely distributed, although
cdaccess.com used to carry it. The other 4 titles were never released in the
US at all...only in the UK. Duckman in particular had such a limited release
that although people had heard of the game, they had never seen it in stores
and for years the popular belief was that the game had been cancelled.
Someone eventually found a German source for the game and this version is
now fairly readily available (the speech is in English, but the subtitles
are in German), but the English version is nearly impossible to find. I know
of only a couple of copies in existence.

Of the short list I gave, I have only played Duckman (the German release).
It was a very fun adventure game and I would recommend it. I can not attest
to the quality of the other titles mentioned (yet).

By the way, EB sucks these days. I went in there specifically to buy the PC
release of Shadow of Destiny, which incidentally is one of the best games
I've ever played. Pick up a copy for either PC or PS2 if you haven't
already. My experience in getting this game was a classic example of why
these titles become lost classics and eventually command high prices. Konami
actually advertised the game in PC Gamer, CGW, etc. but it didn't make its
release date and was rumored to have been cancelled. I eventually found out
months later (from a German Web site, no less) that the game had just been
released (late, and with no fanfare whatsoever), and that EB seemed to be
the only source for it. I went into 3 EBs and didn't see the game anywhere.
I asked the people behind the counter and they told me they didn't have the
game and had never heard of it. They looked in the back room and didn't find
any. I was persistent, though, and got them to look again, and finally I
found one. ("Oh, the computer says we only got in 1 copy.").

Stuart

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I was an AVID gamer in the 90's...even worked at EB in the early 90's and
never heard of one of the games you list below (aside from the ones with
licenses that I know).  Are these classic games that I somehow missed?
Should I be looking for them?  What makes them so valuable?

Hugh

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I don't like this poll much. Currently, Kilrathi Saga is winning, but you
can buy a new shrinkwrapped Kilrathi Saga on ebay right now for $175. Last
night I saw a mint opened one for $125. What about the following games from
the 90s:

Alice: An Interactive Museum
Duckman (English version)
Orion Burger
Bud Tucker in Double Trouble
3 Skulls of the Toltecs

To name a few...I can think of a whole bunch more.

Stuart

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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll


The current poll at www.mobygames.com is of interest to software collectors.

Check it out and vote.
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RE: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll

2003-01-08 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart

There definitely is a difference between rare and valuable. However, when a
game is EXTREMELY rare, it does become valuable, as even demand from a small
number of people can push up the price drastically. I wonder how large the
demand truly is for Mt. Drash, for example. How many people are really
looking for that game? But it doesn't matter, because none of them can find
it, and if one did become available, there would be a bidding war for it.

What makes the games on my list valuable is that demand > supply and the
people that are looking for these games are willing to pay high prices for
them. It seems that a large population of adventure game collectors in
particular has sprung up over the last 5 years, and many of these people are
affluent and can afford to play high prices for games. Most of these people
would throw a Starcross saucer in the garbage (and especially a Mt. Drash
tape) but would shell out any amount of money for an "Alice" or an "Orion
Burger".

A good guide to what crazy people are willing to pay is often the Game
Trading Zone (gametz.com). You can see how many copies of a particular game
are available, if any, and if someone does have one, what they want for it.
Ebay is not so good because they don't archive their auctions for long
enough, but I paid over $200 (ouch, I feel bad admitting this) for a
shrinkwrapped Alice a week or so ago, and I got off easy. The last one I saw
went for twice the price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=182&item=2084370987&r
d=1
http://gametz.com/?S=7076363&A=Games&attr=PC&wantitem=Alice%3A%20An%20Intera
ctive%20Museum

Stuart

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"Feldhamer, Stuart" wrote:
> 
> I don't like this poll much. Currently, Kilrathi Saga is winning, but you
> can buy a new shrinkwrapped Kilrathi Saga on ebay right now for $175. Last
> night I saw a mint opened one for $125. What about the following games
from
> the 90s:
> 
> Alice: An Interactive Museum
> Duckman (English version)
> Orion Burger
> Bud Tucker in Double Trouble
> 3 Skulls of the Toltecs

But there is a difference between "rare" and "valuable", as I have found out
with my collection.  I have a lot of extremely rare pre-1990 action games
for
the PC (Wibarm, for one) but I don't think anyone would call them valuable. 
What makes the above games valuable?

(No, I am not defending the poll -- I didn't write it :-)
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RE: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll

2003-01-08 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart



The CD 
version of System Shock isn't so rare either...I've seen it on ebay lots of 
times for $20 or so.
 
Stuart

  -Original Message-From: Pedro Quaresma 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 
  3:09 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [SWCollect] Current MobyGames pollAnd if variations count (which I think should do, since 
  in the poll one option clearly specifies a CD version of a game), rare 
  versions like 10th Anniversary Ultima 6 / Savage Empire should count or the CD 
  version of System Shock--Pedro R. QuaresmaSalvador Caetano 
  IMVTDiv. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information 
  DivisionAdministração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes 
  Admnistration and Development[EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 
  (ext. 3492)"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has 
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swcollect I don't like this poll much. Currently, Kilrathi Saga is winning, 
  but youcan buy a new shrinkwrapped Kilrathi Saga on ebay right now for 
  $175. Lastnight I saw a mint opened one for $125. What about the following 
  games fromthe 90s:Alice: An Interactive MuseumDuckman (English 
  version)Orion BurgerBud Tucker in Double Trouble3 Skulls of the 
  ToltecsTo name a few...I can think of a whole bunch 
  more.Stuart-Original Message-From: Jim Leonard 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:35 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames 
  pollThe current poll at www.mobygames.com is of interest to 
  software collectorsCheck it out and vote.-- 
  http://www.MobyGames.com/The world's most comprehensive gaming 
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RE: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll

2003-01-08 Thread Pedro Quaresma

And if variations count (which I think should do, since in the poll one option clearly specifies a CD version of a game), rare versions like 10th Anniversary Ultima 6 / Savage Empire should count or the CD version of System Shock

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I don't like this poll much. Currently, Kilrathi Saga is winning, but you
can buy a new shrinkwrapped Kilrathi Saga on ebay right now for $175. Last
night I saw a mint opened one for $125. What about the following games from
the 90s:

Alice: An Interactive Museum
Duckman (English version)
Orion Burger
Bud Tucker in Double Trouble
3 Skulls of the Toltecs

To name a few...I can think of a whole bunch more.

Stuart

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RE: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll

2003-01-07 Thread Hugh Falk
I was an AVID gamer in the 90's...even worked at EB in the early 90's and
never heard of one of the games you list below (aside from the ones with
licenses that I know).  Are these classic games that I somehow missed?
Should I be looking for them?  What makes them so valuable?

Hugh

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I don't like this poll much. Currently, Kilrathi Saga is winning, but you
can buy a new shrinkwrapped Kilrathi Saga on ebay right now for $175. Last
night I saw a mint opened one for $125. What about the following games from
the 90s:

Alice: An Interactive Museum
Duckman (English version)
Orion Burger
Bud Tucker in Double Trouble
3 Skulls of the Toltecs

To name a few...I can think of a whole bunch more.

Stuart

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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll


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Check it out and vote.
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Re: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll

2003-01-07 Thread Jim Leonard
"Feldhamer, Stuart" wrote:
> 
> I don't like this poll much. Currently, Kilrathi Saga is winning, but you
> can buy a new shrinkwrapped Kilrathi Saga on ebay right now for $175. Last
> night I saw a mint opened one for $125. What about the following games from
> the 90s:
> 
> Alice: An Interactive Museum
> Duckman (English version)
> Orion Burger
> Bud Tucker in Double Trouble
> 3 Skulls of the Toltecs

But there is a difference between "rare" and "valuable", as I have found out
with my collection.  I have a lot of extremely rare pre-1990 action games for
the PC (Wibarm, for one) but I don't think anyone would call them valuable. 
What makes the above games valuable?

(No, I am not defending the poll -- I didn't write it :-)
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RE: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll

2003-01-07 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart

I don't like this poll much. Currently, Kilrathi Saga is winning, but you
can buy a new shrinkwrapped Kilrathi Saga on ebay right now for $175. Last
night I saw a mint opened one for $125. What about the following games from
the 90s:

Alice: An Interactive Museum
Duckman (English version)
Orion Burger
Bud Tucker in Double Trouble
3 Skulls of the Toltecs

To name a few...I can think of a whole bunch more.

Stuart

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From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SWCollect] Current MobyGames poll


The current poll at www.mobygames.com is of interest to software collectors.

Check it out and vote.
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