RE: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-27 Thread Pedro Quaresma


All the Eidos boxes have that shape? Then I don't know if it's an European
feature or if the following just happened in Portugal, but both Final
Fantasy 7 and Tomb Raider 3 sold in these parts have ye olde regulare
rectangulare boxe.

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FF VII came in the triangle shaped EIDOS box that most of their games came
in (Tomb Raider, etc.)...a bit awkward, but not overly large or difficult
to
deal with.

Hugh

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That box description reminded me of another two games with unusual box
shapes: Prince of Persia 2 (I think it was 2), the box was shaped like an
hourglass.

Also, one of the Final Fantasy VII editions was released in a similarly
weird box.

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Jim Leonard boldly stated:

Stephen S. Lee wrote:

 Any other awkward games of interest out there?

A few I can remember and/or own:  (and view this in a Courier or monospace
font
to see diagrams correctly)

Zepher: Back was flat, but front was shaped like three sides of an
octagon:

  Top view:
_
\   /
 \ /
  -

Centauri Alliance, a sci-fi RPG for the Apple II (and maybe others)
came in a hexagonal box.  Not hard to stand up, but it's wider than a
standard rectangular box, so it sticks out farther from the shelf.  I
bought it way back when in part because you could import characters
from Might  Magic.  Their magical items would become hi-tech items.
I was disappointed with it and never got very far.

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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-27 Thread Jim Leonard

Pedro Quaresma wrote:
 
 That box description reminded me of another two games with unusual box
 shapes: Prince of Persia 2 (I think it was 2), the box was shaped like an
 hourglass.

You're right; scans of that are also on MobyGames.
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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-27 Thread Stephen S. Lee


On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Stephen S. Lee wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote:
  Stephen S. Lee wrote:
 [snip]
   Wing Commander Premiere will generally bring it up, without any false
   positives.  None are currently up, but one auction for a set that was
   missing lots of stuff concluded on July 13.  Wing Commander III will get
   most of the rest that aren't well-advertised, though you'll have to sift
   through 30-40 bogus finds.
 
  I found this:
 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1258292041
 
  How complete is it?

 It's missing a few parts, but the T-shirt is there (it's the part most
 likely to be missing).  Mine has never been worn.

Now that I've taken another look, I don't have the audio CD in my copy.
Damn.

-- Stephen


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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-27 Thread Jim Leonard

Stephen S. Lee wrote:
 
 On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Stephen S. Lee wrote:
  On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote:
   Stephen S. Lee wrote:
  [snip]
Wing Commander Premiere will generally bring it up, without any false
positives.  None are currently up, but one auction for a set that was
missing lots of stuff concluded on July 13.  Wing Commander III will get
most of the rest that aren't well-advertised, though you'll have to sift
through 30-40 bogus finds.
  
   I found this:
  
   http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1258292041
  
   How complete is it?
 
  It's missing a few parts, but the T-shirt is there (it's the part most
  likely to be missing).  Mine has never been worn.
 
 Now that I've taken another look, I don't have the audio CD in my copy.
 Damn.

I'd be happy to make a copy for you if you'd be willing to make a
(decent) copy of the video.  :)  Interested?

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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-26 Thread Pedro Quaresma


What about the Suspended mask?

Oh, and it isn't the Starcross saucer. There's no such thing as a
Starcross saucer. It has recently been officially renamed by the members
of this mailing list to the pink frisbee. Weird but true. Thank you.

:)

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OK, so I'm gradually moving to a new place in Berkeley (fortunately,
relatively cheap -- by Berkeley standards at least), and I am establishing
the Mighty Bookcases of Doom there.

Er, okay, so they are just a set of four bookcases purchased for $70
apiece at IKEA.  They still work great for computer games -- the shelves
can be spaced evenly to accomodate any normal-sized computer game (nice
fit, too -- a large box fits nicely with not much extra room to spare).

I haven't quite set everything up yet (I need to get more shelves,
actually), and I'm still agonizing over just how to organize my games on
the shelves.  Not everything is going to fit, but everything significant
to me in any way should, at least at first, heh.

Anyway, a few games are misbehaving.  I think I'll shelve some small books
separately on a bookcase that has actual books, but here are a few games
that will require special treatment:

* Wing Commander III Premiere Edition.  Easily the largest game box I own.
There's no way this is going to fit on a bookshelf (it's way too large in
two dimensions).

* Escape From Monkey Island Signature Edition.  Oh, it fits the shelves
okay, but there are props inside.  Guess what one of props inside is?  A
*magnet*.  It's one of the flat types, so I don't think it's much of a
threat, but just as a precaution it's going to be isolated from my whole
main collection-library.

* Sid and Al's Incredible Toons.  What's awkward is the package shape --
the package consists of two separable pieces that form a misshapen
cartoonish TV set.  Not only is it not nicely orthagonal, it's also
fragile.  (Incidentally, I have a duplicate set of trading cards and the
poster for this, but I don't have the manual -- I'd like the manual to
form a complete set.  Oh, if you're a fan of the Incredible Machine
series, this is a must-own.)

If I had a Starcross saucer, that would probably make the list too, but
since I don't, it doesn't.

Any other awkward games of interest out there?

-- Stephen


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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-26 Thread Jim Leonard

Stephen S. Lee wrote:
 
 * Wing Commander III Premiere Edition.  Easily the largest game box I own.
 There's no way this is going to fit on a bookshelf (it's way too large in
 two dimensions).

Is that the film can?  Anyone know where I can get something like this?  It's
eluded me ever since I learned about it.  I *am* willing to pay fairly for it.
 
 * Escape From Monkey Island Signature Edition.  Oh, it fits the shelves
 okay, but there are props inside.  Guess what one of props inside is?  A
 *magnet*.  It's one of the flat types, so I don't think it's much of a
 threat, but just as a precaution it's going to be isolated from my whole
 main collection-library.

A magnet!  LOL!  Good thing you caught that.
 
 Any other awkward games of interest out there?

A few I can remember and/or own:  (and view this in a Courier or monospace font
to see diagrams correctly)

X-Car: Was an x-shaped box.  Later boxes were framed in a clear
normal-dimension plastic box.

Zepher: Back was flat, but front was shaped like three sides of an octagon:

  Top view:
_
\   /
 \ /
  -

Day of the Tentacle: Original box was a triangular box with three sides (cover
scans on MobyGames)

Jetfighter II: Multi-part box was shaped oddly; hard to describe

Spectre: Shaped like the Star Trek insignia, very hard to stand on end (I'm not
kidding, look:)

  Front view:


   /|
  /  | 
 /___ |
/___--\|

Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers: Original box was shaped like fractured
glass (see MobyGames for cover scans)

I can't remember more offhand, but I'm sure others can.
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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-26 Thread AvatarTom

There is a Joe and Mac in an octagon box, also some strange fish game I have 
that has to be the MOST awkward package, I think the box is shaped like a 3D 
fish.

Tom

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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-26 Thread Lee K. Seitz

Jim Leonard boldly stated:

Stephen S. Lee wrote:

 Any other awkward games of interest out there?

A few I can remember and/or own:  (and view this in a Courier or monospace font
to see diagrams correctly)

Zepher: Back was flat, but front was shaped like three sides of an octagon:

  Top view:
_
\   /
 \ /
  -

Centauri Alliance, a sci-fi RPG for the Apple II (and maybe others)
came in a hexagonal box.  Not hard to stand up, but it's wider than a
standard rectangular box, so it sticks out farther from the shelf.  I
bought it way back when in part because you could import characters
from Might  Magic.  Their magical items would become hi-tech items. 
I was disappointed with it and never got very far.

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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-26 Thread AvatarTom

In a message dated 07/26/2001 11:21:16 AM Central Daylight Time, 
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 The fish game I've never seen, but it's not El-Fish because El-Fish comes 
in a
 normal box. 

Next time I tear apart my storage area I'll try to find it, REALLY AWKWARD!!! 
Flimsy too.

Tom

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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-26 Thread Jim Leonard

Lee K. Seitz wrote:
 
 Centauri Alliance, a sci-fi RPG for the Apple II (and maybe others)
 came in a hexagonal box.  Not hard to stand up, but it's wider than a
 standard rectangular box, so it sticks out farther from the shelf.  I
 bought it way back when in part because you could import characters
 from Might  Magic.  Their magical items would become hi-tech items.
 I was disappointed with it and never got very far.

Why disappointed?  It sounds fascinating, especially the party
import/conversion.
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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-26 Thread Lee K. Seitz

Jim Leonard boldly stated:

Lee K. Seitz wrote:
 
 Centauri Alliance, a sci-fi RPG for the Apple II (and maybe others)
 came in a hexagonal box.
 I
 bought it way back when in part because you could import characters
 from Might  Magic.  Their magical items would become hi-tech items.
 I was disappointed with it and never got very far.

Why disappointed?  It sounds fascinating, especially the party
import/conversion.

I don't remember exactly why I was disappointed with it any more.
It's been too long since I played it.  I do seem to recall that some
of the inventory conversions from MM to CA didn't seem to make much
sense.  I still have it, uh, somewhere.  (Did I see it last night in
my computer desk?  I don't remember.)  I found a page for it at
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Exhibit/2762/centauri/main.htm.  And,
FYI, it turns out it was released on the C64, too.

Overall, however, I just don't seem to be cut out for computer RPG's.
I never finished Might  Magic, either.  Members of my party seemed to
get continually killed.  I did manage to map out a pretty sizable
portion of the game before I bought the hint book, though.  I think it
was shortly after I got the hint book that I quit playing.  I don't
remember why.  MM was the last RPG I played, too.  No time to play
them these days.

You know, for that matter, I don't seem to manage to finish many
RPG/adventure/IF games.  I finished HHGTTG (after I finally got the
!@#$ babel fish) and Bureacracy, but not Maniac Mansion or Nord 
Bert.  For that matter, I bought the collector's edition of X-Wing and
never started the supplemental missions (after destroying the Death
Star).  (I bet that game would scream on my P700.  Especially compared
to the 286-20 I first played it on.)  Maybe I've got ADD.  And maybe
now I understand better why I'm a classic video game collector and not
so much a computer game collector.

I may not be able to finish a game, but I sure can blather on, can't
I?

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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-26 Thread Jim Leonard

Lee K. Seitz wrote:
 
 You know, for that matter, I don't seem to manage to finish many
 RPG/adventure/IF games.  I finished HHGTTG (after I finally got the
 !@#$ babel fish) and Bureacracy, but not Maniac Mansion or Nord 
 Bert.  For that matter, I bought the collector's edition of X-Wing and
 never started the supplemental missions (after destroying the Death
 Star).  (I bet that game would scream on my P700.  Especially compared
 to the 286-20 I first played it on.)  Maybe I've got ADD.  And maybe
 now I understand better why I'm a classic video game collector and not
 so much a computer game collector.
 
 I may not be able to finish a game, but I sure can blather on, can't
 I?

Evidently, you've never known me.  Oh wait, yes you do.  :-)

I am the same way.  I only finish RPGs when I have the drive to start them. 
When I start an RPG  or Adventure game (and I consider Deus Ex more an
Adventure than anything else, which was the last game to grab me), I *know* I
won't do anything else computer-wise until it's finished.  I hate leaving games
unfinished.  Because I want to do other things computer-wise, I don't start
RPGs more than once a year.

Although, if what I read about Darklands is right, I'd play Darklands forever
(it doesn't end?)
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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-26 Thread Stephen S. Lee


On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote:
 Stephen S. Lee wrote:
 
  Someone said that only 1,500 of these were made, but given how often this
  shows up and given that EA sold it directly until 2-3 years ago, I think
  there were more than that.  It's still easily worth $100+ if everything's
  there.

 I'm willing to pay $150 if it's complete, less if it's not.  If you
 could find me the exact title (ie what to search for on ebay without
 getting 2134 hits on wing commander) I'd really appreciate it.

Wing Commander Premiere will generally bring it up, without any false
positives.  None are currently up, but one auction for a set that was
missing lots of stuff concluded on July 13.  Wing Commander III will get
most of the rest that aren't well-advertised, though you'll have to sift
through 30-40 bogus finds.

This seems to show up about once every 3-4 weeks on average (not
necessarily complete).

-- Stephen


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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-26 Thread Jim Leonard

Stephen S. Lee wrote:
 
 On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote:
  Stephen S. Lee wrote:
  
   Someone said that only 1,500 of these were made, but given how often this
   shows up and given that EA sold it directly until 2-3 years ago, I think
   there were more than that.  It's still easily worth $100+ if everything's
   there.
 
  I'm willing to pay $150 if it's complete, less if it's not.  If you
  could find me the exact title (ie what to search for on ebay without
  getting 2134 hits on wing commander) I'd really appreciate it.
 
 Wing Commander Premiere will generally bring it up, without any false
 positives.  None are currently up, but one auction for a set that was
 missing lots of stuff concluded on July 13.  Wing Commander III will get
 most of the rest that aren't well-advertised, though you'll have to sift
 through 30-40 bogus finds.
 
 This seems to show up about once every 3-4 weeks on average (not
 necessarily complete).

Thanks for the tip!

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Re: [SWCollect] Awkward game packages

2001-07-26 Thread Jim Leonard

Stephen S. Lee wrote:
 
 On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote:
  Stephen S. Lee wrote:
  
   Someone said that only 1,500 of these were made, but given how often this
   shows up and given that EA sold it directly until 2-3 years ago, I think
   there were more than that.  It's still easily worth $100+ if everything's
   there.
 
  I'm willing to pay $150 if it's complete, less if it's not.  If you
  could find me the exact title (ie what to search for on ebay without
  getting 2134 hits on wing commander) I'd really appreciate it.
 
 Wing Commander Premiere will generally bring it up, without any false
 positives.  None are currently up, but one auction for a set that was
 missing lots of stuff concluded on July 13.  Wing Commander III will get
 most of the rest that aren't well-advertised, though you'll have to sift
 through 30-40 bogus finds.

I found this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1258292041

How complete is it?  You mentioned a video, but it contains an
interactive CD -- is this not the video?  Also, where can I find a
list of the complete items?  I went to a couple of WC fansites but they
kept referring to an out-of-date FAQ.

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