Re: [swift-evolution] Is there information about phases/versions/releases and scope?

2016-10-11 Thread Chris Lattner via swift-evolution

> On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution 
>  wrote:
> 
> Additional info for your reference:
> 
> * Chris Lattner's original email on additional goals and non-goals for Swift 
> 4:
> https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20160725/025676.html
>  
> 
> 

> * Chris Lattner's speculation that Swift 3.x will be time-based: whatever's 
> accepted for Swift 4 and done by spring will ship:
> https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20160725/025722.html
>  
> 

Xiaodi is right.  I (still) expect that we’ll have a Spring release of Swift, 
and it will include whatever features happen to be done and good to go whenever 
it needs to branch (including work that doesn’t involve evolution proposals, 
like improved compile time, better error messages, etc). 

Overall, we’re not managing a specific feature set goal for it, we’re just 
treating it as an incremental step along the way to Swift 4.

-Chris

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Re: [swift-evolution] Is there information about phases/versions/releases and scope?

2016-10-11 Thread Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution
Additional info for your reference:

* Chris Lattner's original email on additional goals and non-goals for
Swift 4:
https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20160725/025676.html

* Chris Lattner's speculation that Swift 3.x will be time-based: whatever's
accepted for Swift 4 and done by spring will ship:
https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20160725/025722.html


On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Xiaodi Wu  wrote:

> As far as I know, there will be, but I'm not aware of new evolution
> proposals being accepted specifically for those releases. Perhaps core team
> folks can chime in.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 18:31 Jay Abbott  wrote:
>
>> So does that mean there's not going to be any 3.x versions between 3.0
>> and 4.0?
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 at 23:55 Xiaodi Wu  wrote:
>>
>> It's described in the swift-evolution GitHub repository readme:
>>
>> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 17:53 Jay Abbott via swift-evolution <
>> swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
>>
>> I keep seeing it mentioned that some ideas are out of scope for Swift 4
>> phase 1 - I understand from this list that phase 1 is to include any
>> breaking changes then phase 2 (etc?) will be adding more features. That's
>> all I know about it.
>>
>> It would be nice to know what phases are on the table and what their
>> scope is. Is this phased approach documented anywhere? I found on this page
>> https://swift.org/contributing/#participating-
>> in-the-swift-evolution-process a reference to the "Swift Evolution
>> review Schedule" which sounded promising, but it is a broken link. Also, is
>> there a phase 2 of swift 3.0? Swift 3.1? What does that include? Do the
>> phases match up to release versions at all in any way?
>>
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Re: [swift-evolution] Is there information about phases/versions/releases and scope?

2016-10-11 Thread Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution
As far as I know, there will be, but I'm not aware of new evolution
proposals being accepted specifically for those releases. Perhaps core team
folks can chime in.


On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 18:31 Jay Abbott  wrote:

> So does that mean there's not going to be any 3.x versions between 3.0 and
> 4.0?
>
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 at 23:55 Xiaodi Wu  wrote:
>
> It's described in the swift-evolution GitHub repository readme:
>
> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 17:53 Jay Abbott via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
>
> I keep seeing it mentioned that some ideas are out of scope for Swift 4
> phase 1 - I understand from this list that phase 1 is to include any
> breaking changes then phase 2 (etc?) will be adding more features. That's
> all I know about it.
>
> It would be nice to know what phases are on the table and what their scope
> is. Is this phased approach documented anywhere? I found on this page
> https://swift.org/contributing/#participating-in-the-swift-evolution-process
> a reference to the "Swift Evolution review Schedule" which sounded
> promising, but it is a broken link. Also, is there a phase 2 of swift 3.0?
> Swift 3.1? What does that include? Do the phases match up to release
> versions at all in any way?
>
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Re: [swift-evolution] Is there information about phases/versions/releases and scope?

2016-10-11 Thread Jay Abbott via swift-evolution
So does that mean there's not going to be any 3.x versions between 3.0 and
4.0?

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 at 23:55 Xiaodi Wu  wrote:

> It's described in the swift-evolution GitHub repository readme:
>
> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 17:53 Jay Abbott via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
>
> I keep seeing it mentioned that some ideas are out of scope for Swift 4
> phase 1 - I understand from this list that phase 1 is to include any
> breaking changes then phase 2 (etc?) will be adding more features. That's
> all I know about it.
>
> It would be nice to know what phases are on the table and what their scope
> is. Is this phased approach documented anywhere? I found on this page
> https://swift.org/contributing/#participating-in-the-swift-evolution-process
> a reference to the "Swift Evolution review Schedule" which sounded
> promising, but it is a broken link. Also, is there a phase 2 of swift 3.0?
> Swift 3.1? What does that include? Do the phases match up to release
> versions at all in any way?
>
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Re: [swift-evolution] Is there information about phases/versions/releases and scope?

2016-10-11 Thread Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution
It's described in the swift-evolution GitHub repository readme:

https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution



On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 17:53 Jay Abbott via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

> I keep seeing it mentioned that some ideas are out of scope for Swift 4
> phase 1 - I understand from this list that phase 1 is to include any
> breaking changes then phase 2 (etc?) will be adding more features. That's
> all I know about it.
>
> It would be nice to know what phases are on the table and what their scope
> is. Is this phased approach documented anywhere? I found on this page
> https://swift.org/contributing/#participating-in-the-swift-evolution-process
> a reference to the "Swift Evolution review Schedule" which sounded
> promising, but it is a broken link. Also, is there a phase 2 of swift 3.0?
> Swift 3.1? What does that include? Do the phases match up to release
> versions at all in any way?
>
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[swift-evolution] Is there information about phases/versions/releases and scope?

2016-10-11 Thread Jay Abbott via swift-evolution
I keep seeing it mentioned that some ideas are out of scope for Swift 4
phase 1 - I understand from this list that phase 1 is to include any
breaking changes then phase 2 (etc?) will be adding more features. That's
all I know about it.

It would be nice to know what phases are on the table and what their scope
is. Is this phased approach documented anywhere? I found on this page
https://swift.org/contributing/#participating-in-the-swift-evolution-process
a reference to the "Swift Evolution review Schedule" which sounded
promising, but it is a broken link. Also, is there a phase 2 of swift 3.0?
Swift 3.1? What does that include? Do the phases match up to release
versions at all in any way?
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