Re: [swinog] [Fwd: [Full-disclosure] DNS Smurf revisited]

2005-05-30 Diskussionsfäden Marc SCHAEFER
On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 09:31:32PM +0200, Simon Leinen wrote:
 I can spoof packets from my home broadband connection (and probably
 the 299'999 other broadband customers of that Swiss ISP can do so as
 well :-).  Hopefully other Swiss ISPs do this better.

sunrise freesurf used to allow this also, didn't try for some time.

(it even let source address be in the private address space)

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Re: [swinog] [Fwd: [Full-disclosure] DNS Smurf revisited]

2005-05-30 Diskussionsfäden Philippe Strauss
On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 09:55:39AM +0200, Marc SCHAEFER wrote:
 On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 09:31:32PM +0200, Simon Leinen wrote:
  I can spoof packets from my home broadband connection (and probably
  the 299'999 other broadband customers of that Swiss ISP can do so as
  well :-).  Hopefully other Swiss ISPs do this better.
 
 sunrise freesurf used to allow this also, didn't try for some time.
 
 (it even let source address be in the private address space)

amazing to still see this in 2005!
is there valuable argument from these ISP or is it
ignorance / badly designed networks??

on the leaf interfaces of the ISP routing topology:

(cisco)
ip verify unicast reverse-path

(linux)
echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/ethN/rp_filter

there is still this good paper from cisco, it's a bit
dated but probably mean no real valuable features was added
in IOS since 2001:

http://www.cisco.com/public/cons/isp/documents/IOSEssentialsPDF.zip


bye.

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Philippe Strauss
av. de Beaulieu 25
1004 Lausanne
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[swinog] Route leak from AS13237

2005-05-30 Diskussionsfäden Peering-Tech
Hi,

due to a misconfiguration by one of our customers we have tripped the max
prefix filter of many peers. There are still some sessions that are not up
after our route leak on Sunday morning. If you see your AS in the list
below, please clear the session with 194.42.48.79. We are currently
announcing 731 prefixes. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.

Peer   AS   InPkt  OutPktOutQ   Flaps Last
Up/Dwn State|#Active/Received/Damped...
194.42.48.2  8271  97060 100429   0   4 1d 14:17:47
Active
194.42.48.3  6730 470489 352094   0   5 1d 14:19:39
Active
194.42.48.15 9044  98142 100019   0   5 1d 14:19:47
Active
194.42.48.1613030  95906  98303   0   9 1d 14:19:46
Active
194.42.48.18 1836 341332 350986   0   7 1d 14:19:47
Active
194.42.48.3215623 336740 349472   0   4 1d 14:19:46
Active
194.42.48.39 6772 114764 118627   0   5 1d 14:19:46
Active
194.42.48.5112350  97218 100669   0  16 1d 14:17:47
Active
194.42.48.6321494 213250 221656   0   9 1d 14:20:49
Active
194.42.48.74 8928 362223 350841   0   5 1d 14:17:47
Active


Thanks,
Dirk




Dirk Geisler 
TAC_IP
(AS13237)

LambdaNet Communications Deutschland AG
Günther-Wagner Allee 13 
D-30177 Hannover (Germany)

Phone:   +49 511 / 84881485 
Mobil:   +49 173 /  6291485
Telefax: +49 511 / 84881409 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lambdanet.de


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Re: [swinog] [Fwd: [Full-disclosure] DNS Smurf revisited]

2005-05-30 Diskussionsfäden Philippe Strauss
On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 05:59:35PM +0200, Jean-Pierre Schwickerath wrote:
 
  is there valuable argument from these ISP or is it
  ignorance / badly designed networks??
 
 Once someone told me they couldn't do it because it would add too much
 delay to the packet and that their hardware would would have to throttle
 the throughput if they wanted to do that on gigabit links. 

performances problems on an operation which is basically a routing lookup
4 bytes aside the usual place? funky.

 But then someone has to explain me how other people manage to do full
 NIDS inspection on gigabit links. 

absolutely.

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Philippe Strauss
av. de Beaulieu 25
1004 Lausanne
http://philou.ch/
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