Re: [swinog] Re: OT: blogging

2005-10-25 Diskussionsfäden Will van Gulik

Hi,

I'll just throw my " frenchy " point of view.

I like that blog & news ideas quite much, I spend throwing links on irc 
(ok not #swinog) all day long anyway


But the problem that keeps me away from those, I guess, interessting 
news, is that they are in german. And sorry about that, but I'm still 
not able to read that language correctly.


So what about pasting something (on irc why not) worldwide readable ? ;)

PS : That may also be why I'm not on #swinog anymore, btw ... :)

Peter Baumann wrote:

Please go on with your Blogg.ch, it's always very interesting and
informative!

OK, the posting of the URLS into this mailing list is maybe not the
right choice... maybe in IRC?

How are the others thinking?



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Re: [swinog] Re: OT: blogging

2005-10-25 Diskussionsfäden Sandro Köchli
Hi

On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 17:53 +0200, Peter Baumann wrote:
> Hi Fredy,
> 
> Please go on with your Blogg.ch, it's always very interesting and
> informative!

The most important thing, it gives you a reason to hate Swisscom. Before
it was just some kind of antipathy, with no actual reason. :) 

> OK, the posting of the URLS into this mailing list is maybe not the
> right choice... maybe in IRC?

I like getting the links via swinog since I don't use the RSS feeds.

> How are the others thinking?
> 
> 
> Peter

Sandro

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[swinog] Re: OT: blogging

2005-10-25 Diskussionsfäden Peter Baumann
Hi Fredy,

Please go on with your Blogg.ch, it's always very interesting and
informative!

OK, the posting of the URLS into this mailing list is maybe not the
right choice... maybe in IRC?

How are the others thinking?


Peter
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2005-10-25 Diskussionsfäden marc . fritschi
Besten Dank für Ihre Email! 

Ich bin bis und mit dem 20. November nicht im Büro erreichbar, Ihre Email wird 
nicht weitergeleitet.

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Für dringende administrative Anfragen kann folgender direkter Kontakt verwendet 
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Freundliche Grüsse
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[swinog] Re: OT: blogging

2005-10-25 Diskussionsfäden Fredy Kuenzler

Hi Steven,

Glogger Steven wrote:

sorry freddy, but don't you think you can write normal e-mails to the
mailinglist or do you just keep on pasting links? are you so keen to
push your motz-blogg on top of the google ranking?


Actually I didn't consider this at all, but thanks for the pointer.


i think, people who wants to read your blogg will do - and people who
don't want will not. there was a nice invention some time ago called
RSS-feeds.


ACK. RSS feeds are availabe. But I consider the number of clicks as a
real interest - +100 clicks in just one hour after sending the link to
SwiNOG. Obviously not many have subscribed to RSS yet.

i personally thought at the beginning: well, a nice blogg to cover 
the interests of the swiss internet community. but now i have to 
admit, that it seems that this is your personal newsletter to gruble 
against everyone (aka enemies - i mean 'public' enemies). we all know

now that you don't like sunrise, swisscom, cablecom, solnet, etc.


Wrong. I consider all of them as valuable and respectful competitors,
sometime partners or even friends, too (not the companies, but their
employees). But I consider a fair market with equal opportunities a
necessity. And we all know this is by far not the case in Switzerland.

> to take out a short statistic from the last 20 entries of your blog:
> - 1 positive message (wimax)
> - 1 neutral message (swinog #11 - ok, we're all alkies ;-))
> - 1 ad (multihomed; it's your right - it's your blog :))
> - 15 motz, complain and information about
swisscom/sunrise/cablecom/switch/etc.
> - 2 informations about (possible) bankrupties
(comparis.ch/webspace4you)

Well, thanks for the statistics. But I have to say that you didn't read
really careful (comparis.ch is _not_ a bankrupt, the ad was not only an
ad, rather a message of Gartner). Those so called 'motz' are much more
information about probably not very nice news, execpt only a few
(Bluewin Liebesbrief for instance).

It's not me who sets most of the topics. You don't blame the
journalist reporting the deads of a hurricane, right? If you cannot
stand the message, you shouldn't shoot the messenger.

the one really funny entry i remember was the one with the broken 
/dev/null device.


It's not my intention to be funny. There are much better sources for fun.

so, please keep in mind that blog's are more or less personal 
diaries. if you want to really discuss swiss network stuff please use
the mailinglist - i will not use your blogg for discussing 
internet/swinog related topics.


blogg.ch doesn't have to be only personal. It's - as the subtitle says:
"Insider-Informationen über Schweizer Internet Service Provider.
Entwicklungen und Trends, Gerüchte, Diagnosen und Prognosen."

Consider it as a comment column in a newspaper. I really try to stick to
the truth, but I will always mix my personal opinion to the facts. I
don't consider it as a normal newsticker, and I'd be selective with
topics I consider intersting.

You can agree to my angle of view, or you don't. You can read it, or you
don't. It's really your choice.

I will try only to post really important stuff from blogg.ch to swinog - 
as the latest topic (WEKO Verfügung, whole text). This is IMHO an 
important topic, unless you don't consider your workplace important.


Hope this clarifies my motivation.
Fredy.
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OT: blogging (was: [swinog] WEKO versus Swis scom regarding ADSL: Verfügung online)

2005-10-25 Diskussionsfäden Glogger Steven
hi fredy

it's nice to see that you have started now a successful career in the 
journalism and politics. s

"..thanks for using the blogg2swinog mailgateway for updating my links..." 

sorry freddy, but don't you think you can write normal e-mails to the 
mailinglist or do you just keep on pasting links?
 are you so keen to push your motz-blogg on top of the google ranking? i think, 
people who wants to read your blogg will do - and people who don't want will 
not. there was a nice invention some time ago called RSS-feeds.

i personally thought at the beginning: well, a nice blogg to cover the 
interests of the swiss internet community. but now i have to admit, that it 
seems that this is your personal newsletter to gruble against everyone (aka 
enemies - i mean 'public' enemies).
we all know now that you don't like sunrise, swisscom, cablecom, solnet, etc. 

to take out a short statistic from the last 20 entries of your blog:
- 1 positive message (wimax)
- 1 neutral message (swinog #11 - ok, we're all alkies ;-))
- 1 ad (multihomed; it's your right - it's your blog :))
- 15 motz, complain and information about swisscom/sunrise/cablecom/switch/etc.
- 2 informations about (possible) bankrupties (comparis.ch/webspace4you)

the one really funny entry i remember was the one with the broken /dev/null 
device.

so, please keep in mind that blog's are more or less personal diaries. if you 
want to really discuss swiss network stuff please use the mailinglist - i will 
not use your blogg for discussing internet/swinog related topics.

so, this is just my personal opinion (and i told you this already some weeks 
ago whereupon you wrote the /dev/null-thing; this means that my opinion has 
nothing to do with the fact that cybernet has bought by swisscom).

-steven


> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:10 PM
> To: swinog@swinog.ch
> Subject: [swinog] WEKO versus Swisscom regarding ADSL: 
> Verfügung online
> 
> The WEKO paper (Verfügung) is now ready for download:
> http://www.blogg.ch/index.php?/archives/147-WEKO-Verfuegung-in
> -Sachen-ADSL-gegen-Swisscom-im-Wortlaut.html
> (German)
> 
> F.
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[swinog] [sorbs.net] DUHL listings at SORBS since Sat Oct 22 10:56:46 2005 GMT

2005-10-25 Diskussionsfäden Fabian Uebersax
FYI 


Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:34:46 +1000 (EST)
From: "SORBS Support (Matthew Sullivan)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This message is being sent to muliple tickets at the same time so my
apologies for not personalising it.

All,

On Sat Oct 22 10:56:46 2005 GMT the SORBS DUHL list was updated by a
script that was manually triggered.  The script contained an error which
caused most hosts in the networks listed below to get listed as Dynamic
networks.  The only networks to escape listing were those with the words
static, perm, or fix in their PTR records, and only those where the
contents of the netblock were predominantly PTR records with those
words.

As of approximately 10:30am GMT today I performed a mass update on the
DUHL database, delisting some 9000 entries, most are incorrrect
listings, and some will be updated listings where valid removals have
been performed.

For this reason I am closing all these tickets as resolved, and
requesting that you recheck the database before either re-opening the
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Please do not respond to this ticket unless the DB lookup (
http://www.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/db ) shows you are still listed.

Please do not respond to this ticket, or create a new ticket if you are
receiving blocked messages where the DB lookup page (
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have been removed and will take a little while to update.  I have mailed
all the people subscribed to the SORBS mailing lists asking them to
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however there are lots who are not subscribers so will not receive the
message.

My apologies to all.

Regards,

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[swinog] WEKO versus Swisscom regarding ADSL: Verfügung online

2005-10-25 Diskussionsfäden Fredy Kuenzler

The WEKO paper (Verfügung) is now ready for download:
http://www.blogg.ch/index.php?/archives/147-WEKO-Verfuegung-in-Sachen-ADSL-gegen-Swisscom-im-Wortlaut.html
(German)

F.


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