Re: AW: AW: [swinog] Route of the day
: /me also wonders when "ISP's" start to drop those : silly ICMP filters which are really far from helpful : when trying to debug issues. Use tcptraceroute instead. scott --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: AW: AW: [swinog] Route of the day Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 17:04:35 +0200 Jeroen I still don't see the problem. Where and when can you have such a round-trip for free? Go at the "Zuerifaescht" and you will have to pay quite a lot for a much shorter ride. ;-)) PS: As Stanislav wrote, it's still below 30 hops. Happy weekend, Günti -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Jeroen Massar Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Juli 2007 16:58 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: AW: [swinog] Route of the day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Where's the problem? > Your traffic reaches with Hop 3 already Zurich... Maybe the part where it takes another 600ms+ to actually reach the final destination in Switzerland again? :) > 22 i79zhb-005-pos4-0.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.5) 654.770 ms * > i00nye-005-pos5-2.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.9) 657.152 ms > 23 * * * > 24 tge3-3.bwrt1inb.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.113) 661.318 ms * * > 25 * * * > 26 * * * Instead of the 8ms to reach that same host from the other trace. /me also wonders when "ISP's" start to drop those silly ICMP filters which are really far from helpful when trying to debug issues. Greets, Jeroen ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: AW: [swinog] Route of the day
On the Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 05:04:35PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] blubbered: Hoi. > I still don't see the problem. > Where and when can you have such a round-trip for free? > Go at the "Zuerifaescht" and you will have to pay quite a lot for a much > shorter ride. > ;-)) And the packets do have stickers from all the places they visited on their trip? CU, Venty -- Hey! I don't wanna go to work today! Wanna stay home and play on my videogame! Oh! Think how cool this could be, to go on a killing spree and fight for virtual fame! ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: AW: [swinog] Route of the day
Jeroen I still don't see the problem. Where and when can you have such a round-trip for free? Go at the "Zuerifaescht" and you will have to pay quite a lot for a much shorter ride. ;-)) PS: As Stanislav wrote, it's still below 30 hops. Happy weekend, Günti -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Jeroen Massar Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Juli 2007 16:58 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: AW: [swinog] Route of the day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Where's the problem? > Your traffic reaches with Hop 3 already Zurich... Maybe the part where it takes another 600ms+ to actually reach the final destination in Switzerland again? :) > 22 i79zhb-005-pos4-0.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.5) 654.770 ms * > i00nye-005-pos5-2.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.9) 657.152 ms > 23 * * * > 24 tge3-3.bwrt1inb.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.113) 661.318 ms * * > 25 * * * > 26 * * * Instead of the 8ms to reach that same host from the other trace. /me also wonders when "ISP's" start to drop those silly ICMP filters which are really far from helpful when trying to debug issues. Greets, Jeroen ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: AW: [swinog] Route of the day
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Where's the problem? > Your traffic reaches with Hop 3 already Zurich... Maybe the part where it takes another 600ms+ to actually reach the final destination in Switzerland again? :) > 22 i79zhb-005-pos4-0.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.5) 654.770 ms * > i00nye-005-pos5-2.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.9) 657.152 ms > 23 * * * > 24 tge3-3.bwrt1inb.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.113) 661.318 ms * * > 25 * * * > 26 * * * Instead of the 8ms to reach that same host from the other trace. /me also wonders when "ISP's" start to drop those silly ICMP filters which are really far from helpful when trying to debug issues. Greets, Jeroen signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] Route of the day
Where's the problem? Your traffic reaches with Hop 3 already Zurich... Cheers, Günti -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Erich Hohermuth Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Juli 2007 15:35 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [swinog] Route of the day Nice Traffic Engineering by Swisscom ... www.bluewin.ch vs. www.swisscom.ch traceroute www.bluewin.ch traceroute to www.bluewin.ch (195.186.3.80), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets 1 public-gw (212.101.4.129) 0.472 ms 0.422 ms 0.422 ms 2 zuchwil-b-xmr1-v4 (212.101.0.161) 0.356 ms 0.305 ms 0.273 ms 3 zurich-t-bb5-v-2 (212.101.0.231) 2.210 ms 2.072 ms 2.086 ms 4 sl-gw10-zur-5-0-0.sprintlink.net (80.93.9.145) 2.492 ms 2.435 ms * 5 sl-bb20-zur-13-0.sprintlink.net (80.93.8.37) 2.267 ms 2.212 ms 2.546 ms 6 sl-bb20-fra-11-1.sprintlink.net (213.206.129.155) 8.045 ms 7.715 ms 7.568 ms 7 sl-bb21-fra-15-0.sprintlink.net (217.147.96.34) 7.731 ms 7.569 ms 7.551 ms 8 ge-6-13.car1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.111.141) 24.140 ms * 24.193 ms 9 ae-31-55.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.118.158) 19.180 ms ae-31-53.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.118.94) 19.079 ms ae-32-54.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.118.126) 19.027 ms 10 ae-2.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.132.141) 24.612 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.132.125) 23.228 ms ae-2.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.132.141) 29.033 ms 11 ae-2.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.132.141) 35.436 ms ae-5.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.132.113) 112.251 ms ae-2.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.132.141) 30.059 ms 12 ae-5.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.132.113) 111.073 ms ae-72-72.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.150) 115.081 ms ae-5.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.132.113) 104.589 ms 13 ae-74-74.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.181) 104.390 ms ae-72-72.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.150) 104.975 ms ae-84-84.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.185) 108.475 ms 14 ae-84-84.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.185) 107.689 ms ae-4.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.81) 173.372 ms 161.967 ms 15 ae-4.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.81) 161.863 ms ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.132.9) 167.725 ms ae-4.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.81) 172.804 ms 16 * ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.132.9) 167.666 ms ae-73-73.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.230) 167.334 ms 17 ae-73-73.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.230) 178.840 ms ae-83-83.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.234) 179.588 ms ge-1-3-0-89.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.130) 168.250 ms 18 ge-1-3-0-89.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.130) 167.554 ms so-14-0.hsa4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.114.158) 167.686 ms ge-1-3-0-89.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.130) 168.224 ms 19 * so-14-0.hsa4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.114.158) 168.031 ms * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 i79zhb-005-pos4-0.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.5) 654.770 ms * i00nye-005-pos5-2.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.9) 657.152 ms 23 * * * 24 tge3-3.bwrt1inb.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.113) 661.318 ms * * 25 * * * 26 * * * traceroute to www.swisscom.ch (138.190.1.60), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets 1 public-gw (212.101.4.129) 0.717 ms 0.574 ms 0.397 ms 2 zuchwil-b-xmr1-v4 (212.101.0.161) 0.342 ms 0.407 ms 0.357 ms 3 zurich-t-bb5-v-2 (212.101.0.231) 2.280 ms 2.030 ms 2.050 ms 4 sl-gw10-zur-5-0-0.sprintlink.net (80.93.9.145) 2.510 ms 2.259 ms * 5 sle-swiss3-1-0.sprintlink.net (80.93.9.66) 2.362 ms 2.189 ms 2.207 ms 6 i79tix-015-gig2-13.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.58) 153.872 ms 208.285 ms 3.572 ms 7 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) 18.265 ms 2.460 ms 2.306 ms 8 i64beb-000-gig0-3.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.130.161) 4.573 ms 4.601 ms 4.274 ms 9 i64beb-061-gig0-1.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.156.142) 5.306 ms 5.153 ms 5.154 ms 10 cit-00-lb-ser1-0.ce.ip-plus.net (164.128.156.242) 6.172 ms 5.535 ms 7.259 ms 11 * * * Regards Erich -- * Erich Hohermuth IP Engineer - SolNet (AS 9044) PGPKEY-46A08FCB * * phone: +41 32 517 6220 / sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Route of the day
well, it's less than 30 hops, so it should be ok :) --- Erich Hohermuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice Traffic Engineering by Swisscom ... > > www.bluewin.ch vs. www.swisscom.ch > > > traceroute www.bluewin.ch > traceroute to www.bluewin.ch (195.186.3.80), 64 hops max, 44 byte > packets > 19 * so-14-0.hsa4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.114.158) 168.031 ms * > 20 * * * > 21 * * * > 22 i79zhb-005-pos4-0.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.5) 654.770 ms * > i00nye-005-pos5-2.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.9) 657.152 ms > 23 * * * > 24 tge3-3.bwrt1inb.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.113) 661.318 ms * * > 25 * * * > 26 * * * ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] Route of the day
Nice Traffic Engineering by Swisscom ... www.bluewin.ch vs. www.swisscom.ch traceroute www.bluewin.ch traceroute to www.bluewin.ch (195.186.3.80), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets 1 public-gw (212.101.4.129) 0.472 ms 0.422 ms 0.422 ms 2 zuchwil-b-xmr1-v4 (212.101.0.161) 0.356 ms 0.305 ms 0.273 ms 3 zurich-t-bb5-v-2 (212.101.0.231) 2.210 ms 2.072 ms 2.086 ms 4 sl-gw10-zur-5-0-0.sprintlink.net (80.93.9.145) 2.492 ms 2.435 ms * 5 sl-bb20-zur-13-0.sprintlink.net (80.93.8.37) 2.267 ms 2.212 ms 2.546 ms 6 sl-bb20-fra-11-1.sprintlink.net (213.206.129.155) 8.045 ms 7.715 ms 7.568 ms 7 sl-bb21-fra-15-0.sprintlink.net (217.147.96.34) 7.731 ms 7.569 ms 7.551 ms 8 ge-6-13.car1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.111.141) 24.140 ms * 24.193 ms 9 ae-31-55.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.118.158) 19.180 ms ae-31-53.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.118.94) 19.079 ms ae-32-54.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.118.126) 19.027 ms 10 ae-2.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.132.141) 24.612 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.132.125) 23.228 ms ae-2.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.132.141) 29.033 ms 11 ae-2.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.132.141) 35.436 ms ae-5.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.132.113) 112.251 ms ae-2.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net (4.69.132.141) 30.059 ms 12 ae-5.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.132.113) 111.073 ms ae-72-72.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.150) 115.081 ms ae-5.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.132.113) 104.589 ms 13 ae-74-74.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.181) 104.390 ms ae-72-72.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.150) 104.975 ms ae-84-84.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.185) 108.475 ms 14 ae-84-84.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.185) 107.689 ms ae-4.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.81) 173.372 ms 161.967 ms 15 ae-4.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.81) 161.863 ms ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.132.9) 167.725 ms ae-4.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.81) 172.804 ms 16 * ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.132.9) 167.666 ms ae-73-73.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.230) 167.334 ms 17 ae-73-73.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.230) 178.840 ms ae-83-83.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.234) 179.588 ms ge-1-3-0-89.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.130) 168.250 ms 18 ge-1-3-0-89.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.130) 167.554 ms so-14-0.hsa4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.114.158) 167.686 ms ge-1-3-0-89.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.130) 168.224 ms 19 * so-14-0.hsa4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.114.158) 168.031 ms * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 i79zhb-005-pos4-0.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.5) 654.770 ms * i00nye-005-pos5-2.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.159.9) 657.152 ms 23 * * * 24 tge3-3.bwrt1inb.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.113) 661.318 ms * * 25 * * * 26 * * * traceroute to www.swisscom.ch (138.190.1.60), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets 1 public-gw (212.101.4.129) 0.717 ms 0.574 ms 0.397 ms 2 zuchwil-b-xmr1-v4 (212.101.0.161) 0.342 ms 0.407 ms 0.357 ms 3 zurich-t-bb5-v-2 (212.101.0.231) 2.280 ms 2.030 ms 2.050 ms 4 sl-gw10-zur-5-0-0.sprintlink.net (80.93.9.145) 2.510 ms 2.259 ms * 5 sle-swiss3-1-0.sprintlink.net (80.93.9.66) 2.362 ms 2.189 ms 2.207 ms 6 i79tix-015-gig2-13.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.58) 153.872 ms 208.285 ms 3.572 ms 7 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) 18.265 ms 2.460 ms 2.306 ms 8 i64beb-000-gig0-3.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.130.161) 4.573 ms 4.601 ms 4.274 ms 9 i64beb-061-gig0-1.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.156.142) 5.306 ms 5.153 ms 5.154 ms 10 cit-00-lb-ser1-0.ce.ip-plus.net (164.128.156.242) 6.172 ms 5.535 ms 7.259 ms 11 * * * Regards Erich -- * Erich Hohermuth IP Engineer - SolNet (AS 9044) PGPKEY-46A08FCB * * phone: +41 32 517 6220 / sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
