Re: [swinog] sweden network operators group?

2013-05-03 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2013-05-03 13:11 , Ambauen Daniel wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The dns resolvers of ETH Zürich are not able to resolve names within the 
 domain sgsstudentbostader.se.
 As far as I can see, it is a connection Problem. The Problem is located on 
 the remote site.

Where is your 'dig' output? Any sane operator would request and/or
provide that.

sgsstudentbostader.se.  300 IN  A   46.239.65.2
sgsstudentbostader.se.  300 IN  NS  ns2.sgsit.se.
sgsstudentbostader.se.  300 IN  NS  ns1.sgsit.se.
;; Received 140 bytes from 46.239.64.98#53(46.239.64.98) in 33 ms

jeroen@noc:~$ dig +short @ns1.sgsit.se. www.sgsstudentbostader.se. any
46.239.65.68

Put that in /etc/hosts for a short time and you can at least browse
their site.

Of course if you can't reach their prefix (46.239.64.34/24) you are out
of luck, and that would also explain why you can't resolve anything,
some silly people still think it is smart to have all eggs in one
basket^Wprefix.

(and if you would have provided the dig output and related traceroutes
for destinations that could have been unreachable, you would have had
your answer already what was wrong ;)

 I would like to contact the operator of the domain sgsstudentbostader.se.
 
 I tried the email-addr from the SOA record, without success.

Typically those are not read or too heavily spammed causing them to be
not read unfortunately.

 Does anybody on the list know if an e-mail list similar to swinog exists in 
 Sweden?

You are looking for https://www.iis.se/

http://www.sgsstudentbostader.se/se/kontakt/bostadsformedling notes:
8
Besöks- och postadress:
Kaserntorget 11, plan 2
411 18 GÖTEBORG

E-post: b...@sgsstudentbostader.se

Tel vxl 031-333 63 00
Fax 031-333 63 01
8

 Google was not able to answer this question?

Likely as you are asking the wrong question ;)

Greets,
 Jeroen



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #26 - [updates]

2013-05-03 Diskussionsfäden Steven Glogger
Hi Everyone,

Just a short notice: Since I'm in holidays the next 2 weeks there is no
payment processing. So dont worry if you don't receive a seat confirmation
after you paid - I will work this down once I'm back. 

Then we're still looking for some presentations - contact us if you have
something interesting to present or you know someone who could present and
we should get into contact (swinog-core at swinog.ch).

Greetings

-steven

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Steven Glogger [mailto:ste...@swinog.org] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. April 2013 16:34
An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: swinog-c...@swinog.ch
Betreff: AW: [swinog] SwiNOG #26 - Dates and CFP | Reg Open :)

Hi Everyone!

To rember: the Registration is open ,-)

We're still looking for some Presentations, if you have a good topic or you
have wishes please drop an email to swinog-core at swinog.ch.

Greetings

-steven
SwiNOG Core Team

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch]
Im Auftrag von Simon Ryf
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. April 2013 10:22
An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Betreff: [swinog] SwiNOG #26 - Dates and CFP

(sorry - there was a typo in the previous mail. SwiNOG #26 meeting will be
on the 23rd of May.)

Dear SwiNOG supporter,

The 26th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held
in Berne on top of the Gurten on May 23rd 2013.


Important Dates for SwiNOG#26
---

11.02.2013 Announcement of Meeting
05.04.2013 Call for Papers
14.04.2013 Registration opens
06.05.2013 Call for Papers closing
13.05.2013 Final publication of agenda
16.05.2013 Registration closes
17.05.2013 Deadline for all slides
23.05.2013 Meeting day

Topics for Presentations/Talks
---

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although
due to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to
be between 10 to 45 minutes.

However proposals for longer/shorter presentations or presentations whose
subject falls outside of the topics below are also welcome; please do not
hesitate to submit them.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

 - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
 - IPv6
 - Open Source tools
 - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
 - Routing
 - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
 - Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
 - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)


Language of Slides and Talks
---

The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to
produce your presentation in English.


Submission Guidelines
---

All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely
promotional for your employer.

Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose
sizes may vary considerably.

To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the
following information to swinog-core at swinog.ch:

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
* a working email address
* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
* the title of the presentation
* its expected length (in minutes)
* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would
be valuable to the SwiNOG community.

Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG
website after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it
might be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are not
intended for publication on the internet.


Greetings,
Simon Ryf
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
---

The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people
who are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.

SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas
and information between different companies and organisations.

SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working
on, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every
aspect of their (net)work.

The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other
professionals close to the network community.

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/ 

Information about the meeting will be published at
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog26/ 



[swinog] SwiNOG-BE120 - Beer Event 120 @ Rolli's Steakhouse, Kloten / ZH

2013-05-03 Diskussionsfäden Roger Buchwalder

Dear SwiNOGers,

So, after having a lot of meat last time - almost vegetarian - , BE needs
meat again ,)

Detals for the next event:

---

Event:  SwiNOG-BE120 - Beer Event 120

When?   Monday, 6th May 2013 18:30

Where?  Rolli's Steakhouse, Kloten

Gerbegasse 9, 8302 Kloten

http://www.rollis-steakhouse.ch

(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/XouXp)

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited!
!!

---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 3rd May 2013  - 14:45

Stop:   Monday, 6th May 2013  - 09:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who
not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP
(+41794419373).

greetings

Roger Buchwalder



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Re: [swinog] sweden network operators group?

2013-05-03 Diskussionsfäden Guazzoni Daniele, CH
Easy question, easy reply:

You're looking for the NORDnog:
http://www.lsoft.com/scripts/wl.exe?SL1=NORDNOGH=SEGATE.SUNET.SE

Cheers !

-Original Message-
From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of Ambauen Daniel
Sent: Freitag, 3. Mai 2013 13:12
To: 'swinog@lists.swinog.ch'
Subject: [swinog] sweden network operators group?

Hi all,

The dns resolvers of ETH Zürich are not able to resolve names within the domain 
sgsstudentbostader.se.
As far as I can see, it is a connection Problem. The Problem is located on the 
remote site.
I would like to contact the operator of the domain sgsstudentbostader.se.

I tried the email-addr from the SOA record, without success.

Does anybody on the list know if an e-mail list similar to swinog exists in 
Sweden?
Google was not able to answer this question?


Kind Regards
Daniel Ambauen



Daniel Ambauen
Network Applications
ETH Zentrum WET B 1mailto:daniel.amba...@id.ethz.ch
Weinbergstrasse 43 tel : +41 44 632 35 48
CH-8092 Zürich






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Re: [swinog] sweden network operators group?

2013-05-03 Diskussionsfäden Ambauen Daniel
Hi Jeroen

Thanks for your answer.

 Where is your 'dig' output? Any sane operator would request and/or provide 
 that.

Sorry, I thought the details a not important for the list, because the problem 
is on the remote site.

Here they are:  

Our dns resolvers are unable to reach the authoritative name server for 
sgsstudentbostader.se.

[ambauen@id-kom-rz-dock-2-34 ~]$ dig +short +norec  @46.239.64.34 
sgsstudentbostader.se
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

[ambauen@id-kom-rz-dock-2-34 ~]$ dig +short +norec  @46.239.64.98 
sgsstudentbostader.se
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

Our resolvers are using 129.132.128.142 and 129.132.128.206 as query source 
address.
Our IP Network range is 129.132.0.0/16.



From cern http://lg.cern.ch the IP 46.239.64.34 is reachable.

Type Control-c to abort
Sending DNS Query to 192.91.245.85

Type Control-c to abort
Tracing the route to IP node ns1.sgsit.se(46.239.64.34) from 1 to 30 hops

 1 5 ms   1 ms   1 ms e513-a-rbrxl-2-ne0.cern.ch [192.65.184.38] 
 2 6 ms   1 ms   1 ms 194.42.90.41 
 326 ms   1 ms   1 ms ae0-0.gva-004-score-1-re0.interoute.net 
[84.233.208.17] 
   MPLS Label=549140 Exp=0 TTL=1 S=1
 415 ms   1 ms   1 ms ae3-0.par-gar-score-2-re1.interoute.net 
[84.233.208.25] 
   MPLS Label=762608 Exp=0 TTL=1 S=1
 513 ms   1 ms   1 ms ae0-0.par-gar-score-1-re0.interoute.net 
[212.23.42.25] 
   MPLS Label=732133 Exp=0 TTL=1 S=1
 623 ms   1 ms   1 ms ae1-0.lon-004-score-1-re0.interoute.net 
[212.23.42.22] 
 715 ms   1 ms   1 ms 195.66.224.243 
 857 ms   1 ms   1 ms te3-1-r72.cr0-r74.shg5-got.no.p80.net [82.96.1.53] 
 965 ms   1 ms   1 ms 94.136.70.42 
1055 ms   1 ms   1 ms ns4.gsix.se [46.239.64.34] 



Traceroute from our gatway to SWITCH the IP 46.239.64.34 is not reachable.

rou-gw-rz# traceroute 46.239.64.34

traceroute to 46.239.64.34 (46.239.64.34), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets

1  swiez2.ethz.ch (192.33.92.11) (AS 65401)  0.763 ms  0.629 ms  0.632 ms
2  swiIX2-10GE-3-1.switch.ch (130.59.36.250) (AS 559)  0.623 ms  0.585 ms  
0.754 ms
3  i79tix-025-ten9-1.bb.ip-plus.net (193.5.122.18) (AS 559)  0.738 ms  0.76 ms  
0.778 ms 
4  80.157.129.201 (80.157.129.201) (AS 559)  18.704 ms  4.444 ms  3.948 ms
5  par-sa3-i.PAR.FR.NET.DTAG.DE (62.154.5.109) (AS 559)  18.028 ms  21.723 ms  
23.985 ms
6  prs-b7-link.telia.net (213.248.96.209) (AS 559)  11.603 ms  11.652 ms  
11.708 ms
7  prs-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.134.230) (AS 559)  11.61 ms 
prs-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.134.220) (AS 559)  12.003 ms 
prs-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.134.228) (AS 559)  11.604 ms
8  ffm-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.132.157) (AS 559)  17.912 ms 
ffm-bb1-link.telia.net (80.91.245.100) (AS 559)  17.885 ms 
ffm-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.132.155) (AS 559)  17.605 ms
9  hbg-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.135.227) (AS 559)  26.35 ms 
hbg-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.135.149) (AS 559)  26.199 ms 
hbg-bb2-link.telia.net (80.91.245.118) (AS 559)  27.01 ms
10  kbn-bb1-link.telia.net (80.91.249.204) (AS 559)  31.835 ms 
kbn-bb1-link.telia.net (80.91.247.225) (AS 559)  30.927 ms 
kbn-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.134.204) (AS 559)  32.686 ms
11  kbn-b3-link.telia.net (213.155.135.173) (AS 559)  33 ms 
kbn-b3-link.telia.net (80.91.252.23) (AS 559)  30.959 ms kbn-b3-link.telia.net 
(80.91.249.51) (AS 559) 34.052 ms
12  availo-ic-151342-kbn-b3.c.telia.net (80.239.128.170) (AS 559)  33.115 ms  
33.063 ms  32.829 ms
13  te3-1-r72.cr0-r74.shg5-got.no.p80.net (82.96.1.53) (AS 559)  36.462 ms  
36.371 ms  44.196 ms
14  94.136.70.42 (94.136.70.42) (AS 559)  36.686 ms  35.728 ms  36.002 ms
15  * * *


But the last hop 94.136.70.42 before 46.239.64.34 is reachable from our side.


rou-gw-rz# ping 94.136.70.42

PING 94.136.70.42 (94.136.70.42): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 94.136.70.42: icmp_seq=0 ttl=244 time=46.972 ms
64 bytes from 94.136.70.42: icmp_seq=1 ttl=244 time=46.887 ms
64 bytes from 94.136.70.42: icmp_seq=2 ttl=244 time=46.943 ms
64 bytes from 94.136.70.42: icmp_seq=3 ttl=244 time=46.005 ms
64 bytes from 94.136.70.42: icmp_seq=4 ttl=244 time=47.357 ms

--- 94.136.70.42 ping statistics ---

5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.00% packet loss

round-trip min/avg/max = 46.005/46.832/47.357 ms

The entire subnet 46.239.64.34/24 is not reachable from my site.

 
 Google was not able to answer this question?
 Likely as you are asking the wrong question ;)

Some time it is difficult to ask the right questions ;-)

Regards 
Daniel


-Original Message-
From: Jeroen Massar [mailto:jer...@massar.ch] 
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 2:43 PM
To: Ambauen Daniel
Cc: 'swinog@lists.swinog.ch'
Subject: Re: [swinog] sweden network operators group?

On 2013-05-03 13:11 , Ambauen Daniel wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The dns resolvers of ETH Zürich are not able to resolve names within the 
 domain sgsstudentbostader.se.
 As far as I can see, it is a connection Problem. The Problem is located on 
 the remote site.

Where is your 'dig' 

Re: [swinog] sweden network operators group?

2013-05-03 Diskussionsfäden Ambauen Daniel
Hi Daniele

Thank you very much for your answer.

Cheers 

-Original Message-
From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of Guazzoni Daniele, CH
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 3:14 PM
To: 'swinog@lists.swinog.ch'
Subject: Re: [swinog] sweden network operators group?

Easy question, easy reply:

You're looking for the NORDnog:
http://www.lsoft.com/scripts/wl.exe?SL1=NORDNOGH=SEGATE.SUNET.SE

Cheers !

-Original Message-
From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of Ambauen Daniel
Sent: Freitag, 3. Mai 2013 13:12
To: 'swinog@lists.swinog.ch'
Subject: [swinog] sweden network operators group?

Hi all,

The dns resolvers of ETH Zürich are not able to resolve names within the domain 
sgsstudentbostader.se.
As far as I can see, it is a connection Problem. The Problem is located on the 
remote site.
I would like to contact the operator of the domain sgsstudentbostader.se.

I tried the email-addr from the SOA record, without success.

Does anybody on the list know if an e-mail list similar to swinog exists in 
Sweden?
Google was not able to answer this question?


Kind Regards
Daniel Ambauen



Daniel Ambauen
Network Applications
ETH Zentrum WET B 1mailto:daniel.amba...@id.ethz.ch
Weinbergstrasse 43 tel : +41 44 632 35 48
CH-8092 Zürich






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Re: [swinog] sweden network operators group?

2013-05-03 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2013-05-03 15:49 , Ambauen Daniel wrote:
[..]
 Traceroute from our gatway to SWITCH the IP 46.239.64.34 is not reachable.

And thus likely a transit issue, not really a DNS issue
(though having both DNS servers in the same /24 is ... of course).

[..]
 12  availo-ic-151342-kbn-b3.c.telia.net (80.239.128.170) (AS 559)  33.115 ms  
 33.063 ms  32.829 ms
 13  te3-1-r72.cr0-r74.shg5-got.no.p80.net (82.96.1.53) (AS 559)  36.462 ms  
 36.371 ms  44.196 ms
 14  94.136.70.42 (94.136.70.42) (AS 559)  36.686 ms  35.728 ms  36.002 ms
 15  * * *
 
 
 But the last hop 94.136.70.42 before 46.239.64.34 is reachable from our side.

Which likely means that they cannot reach your prefix, as you do have a
route towards them. (though that is likely, filtering and other many
problems can also be the case of course)

[..]
 The entire subnet 46.239.64.34/24 is not reachable from my site.

And hence why neither DNS or anything  else that is hosted on it works.

Best to contact SWITCH, who are effectively your transit, and let them
contact Telia and then likely P80 who can figure out the next step where
it goes wrong.

Greets,
 Jeroen



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