Re: [swinog] ProLiant Debian

2010-02-22 Diskussionsfäden Daniel Kamm

Am 2/21/10 10:49 AM, schrieb Alexandre Suter:


You can find 2.5 trays on e-bay though (look for the corresponding Sun
part number).


For HP ProLiant users, that one could be very handy:
http://www.pcp.ch/product-1a15080534.htm?parnr=12832879

Cheerz,
 - Dan


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Re: [swinog] ProLiant Debian

2010-02-21 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Suter

Hello,


I'm a rather frequent and loyal Sun customer, I think over time I must
have bought just about every Fire model, and they all came with empty
drive bays where no hard disks have been ordered. I never saw any
«dummy» or unusable bay between the years 2000 and 2010.
   


Yes, empty drive bays where you can't insert a standard bare disk. You need
Sun disk mount kits, which are not sold separately.
 

You both sure have made very contradicting experiences with Sun HW!
   


My experience with Sun is what Tonnerre described for 3.5 bays, and 
what Stanislav said for 2.5 bays...


You can find 2.5 trays on e-bay though (look for the corresponding Sun 
part number).



Best regards,

Alexandre



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Re: [swinog] ProLiant Debian

2010-02-19 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin
 From: Tonnerre Lombard tonne...@bsdprojects.net


 I'm a rather frequent and loyal Sun customer, I think over time I must
 have bought just about every Fire model, and they all came with empty
 drive bays where no hard disks have been ordered. I never saw any
 «dummy» or unusable bay between the years 2000 and 2010.


Yes, empty drive bays where you can't insert a standard bare disk. You need
Sun disk mount kits, which are not sold separately.

Moreover, they were selling Intel-based  Fire V65x servers with completely 
different disk mounts, not found in any traditional Sun server. 
Also the embedded RAID controller did not have any Linux support at all...

Sun produces decent hardware, and I like it very much. Just don't assume 
there are Intel servers available from Sun :)


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Re: [swinog] ProLiant Debian

2010-02-19 Diskussionsfäden Claudio Luck
This site has come in handy for some RAID controllers and Debian Lenny:
http://hwraid.le-vert.net/


On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 15:47 +0100, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
  From: Tonnerre Lombard tonne...@bsdprojects.net
 
 
  I'm a rather frequent and loyal Sun customer, I think over time I must
  have bought just about every Fire model, and they all came with empty
  drive bays where no hard disks have been ordered. I never saw any
  «dummy» or unusable bay between the years 2000 and 2010.
 
 
 Yes, empty drive bays where you can't insert a standard bare disk. You need
 Sun disk mount kits, which are not sold separately.

You both sure have made very contradicting experiences with Sun HW!

Is your reseller making a business out of it for it's own, removing the
unused disk frames and selling them apart with third-party
disks? /Speculation

Because I too always have got a usable disk frame in every disk bay.

-- 
Gruss
Claudio Luck




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Re: [swinog] ProLiant Debian

2010-02-18 Diskussionsfäden Tonnerre Lombard
Salut,

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 04:33:03 -0800 (PST), Stanislav Sinyagin 
ssinya...@yahoo.com wrote:
 with sunoracle servers, you end up with disk bays that are difficult
 to buy if you need to increase the disk capacity. And the original
 Sun disks cost a fortune.

That is so not true! Even if you buy a Sun Fire with 0 hard disks you
still get all drive bays along with the server so you can mount your
own disks in a minute.

Tonnerre


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Re: [swinog] ProLiant Debian

2010-02-18 Diskussionsfäden Mathias Seiler
Hi

On 18 Feb 2010, at 14:10, Tonnerre Lombard wrote:

 Salut,
 
 On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 04:33:03 -0800 (PST), Stanislav Sinyagin 
 ssinya...@yahoo.com wrote:
 with sunoracle servers, you end up with disk bays that are difficult
 to buy if you need to increase the disk capacity. And the original
 Sun disks cost a fortune.
 
 That is so not true! Even if you buy a Sun Fire with 0 hard disks you
 still get all drive bays along with the server so you can mount your
 own disks in a minute.

Last time I checked, I received just dummy-bays (not really what one needs to 
mount own drives).

You can still buy the cheapest hard drive (so you get a bay) and swap the 
disk though :)


Cheers

 
   Tonnerre
 
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Re: [swinog] ProLiant Debian

2010-02-16 Diskussionsfäden Thomas Mueller


Am Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:41:56 +0100 schrieb Schlageter Benjamin:

 Hi everybody
 
 Has someone any experiences with Debian on a ProLiant 120 and/or 160?

on ProLiant 110 G5 it's working. 

on some but not all hp servers debian is officially supported. have a 
look here:


http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/debian/index.html


- Thomas



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[swinog] ProLiant Debian

2010-02-15 Diskussionsfäden Schlageter Benjamin
Hi everybody

Has someone any experiences with Debian on a ProLiant 120 and/or 160?
I'm searching some cheap server for monitoring and our old Dell PE 1950
is an ass full of pain with Debian. :(

Cheers
Benjamin


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Re: [swinog] ProLiant Debian

2010-02-15 Diskussionsfäden Mario Iseli
Hi Benjamin,

Debian Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/HP/ProLiant 

It runs on most newer HP servers quite well, never had any problems. But you
need to install the bnx2 driver for most network interfaces.

Have fun and regards,
Mario

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Subject: [swinog] ProLiant  Debian

Hi everybody

Has someone any experiences with Debian on a ProLiant 120 and/or 160?
I'm searching some cheap server for monitoring and our old Dell PE 1950 is
an ass full of pain with Debian. :(

Cheers
Benjamin


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Re: [swinog] ProLiant Debian

2010-02-15 Diskussionsfäden Mathias Seiler
Hi Benjamin :)

Try Sun gear, pardon Oracle servers.

I remember they once wanted to start with official Debian support on these 
machines. They even are certified for Ubuntu: 
http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/sun

Regards

On 15 Feb 2010, at 09:41, Schlageter Benjamin wrote:

 Hi everybody
 
 Has someone any experiences with Debian on a ProLiant 120 and/or 160?
 I'm searching some cheap server for monitoring and our old Dell PE 1950
 is an ass full of pain with Debian. :(
 
 Cheers
 Benjamin
 
 
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Re: [swinog] ProLiant Debian

2010-02-15 Diskussionsfäden Schlageter Benjamin
D'oh - shame on me, I should practice more on Google. :)
Mhm, this bnx2 thingy isn't impossible but still annoying...

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Auftrag von Mario Iseli
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Betreff: Re: [swinog] ProLiant  Debian

Hi Benjamin,

Debian Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/HP/ProLiant 

It runs on most newer HP servers quite well, never had any problems. But you
need to install the bnx2 driver for most network interfaces.

Have fun and regards,
Mario

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On Behalf Of Schlageter Benjamin
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 9:42 AM
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Subject: [swinog] ProLiant  Debian

Hi everybody

Has someone any experiences with Debian on a ProLiant 120 and/or 160?
I'm searching some cheap server for monitoring and our old Dell PE 1950 is
an ass full of pain with Debian. :(

Cheers
Benjamin


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Re: [swinog] ProLiant Debian

2010-02-15 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin
with sunoracle servers, you end up with disk bays that are difficult to buy 
if you need to increase the disk capacity. And the original Sun disks cost a 
fortune.





- Original Message 
 From: Mathias Seiler mathias.sei...@mironet.ch
 To: Schlageter Benjamin b.schlage...@ebm.ch
 Cc: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 10:00:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [swinog] ProLiant  Debian
 
 Hi Benjamin :)
 
 Try Sun gear, pardon Oracle servers.
 
 I remember they once wanted to start with official Debian support on these 
 machines. They even are certified for Ubuntu: 
 http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/sun
 
 Regards
 
 On 15 Feb 2010, at 09:41, Schlageter Benjamin wrote:
 
  Hi everybody
  
  Has someone any experiences with Debian on a ProLiant 120 and/or 160?
  I'm searching some cheap server for monitoring and our old Dell PE 1950
  is an ass full of pain with Debian. :(


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