RE: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch
uch i see this is the second Problem... We have send the Mail to bluewin... The Answer is comming by bluwin... I don't know how is this possible... I maked differente tests... We received some times the wrong Adress... But we have written bluewin.ch But i think this is not a problem of our Server... This is a problem by bluewin.ch We have send all Mails on the To: Line not CC or BCC: And by my test I have take only one Adress... Greetings X. Aerni Mmmh.. bluewin.ch bluwin.ch have the same MX record... ;-) Cheers Olivier Moin! We have the same Problem... we have the same answer since some days... Exemple of the Error silvio.raffath atbluwin.ch: host mxbw.bluewin.ch[195.186.19.144] said: 550 RCPT TO:silvio.raffath at bluwin.ch Relaying not allowed This is most definately not a technical problem but rather a human problem (aka 'typo'). Have a close look at the recipient's domain and then you'll see that there's missing an 'e'. cheers, - Fabian ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch
I think there is the Problem... With bluewins new Server is buewin.ch and bluwin.ch not the same... We have make differentes tests. The first Test was only with Repay to an E-Mail 2 Week ago... Some of the costumer by bluewin.ch has as adress bluwin.ch If you make a replay you received the error MSG... If you make a coorection to bluewin.ch We don't receive it. I don't know if till now if the bluewinclient has received the MSG. I think bluewin must write to their costumer, that they must change the name... When bluewin.ch and bluwin.ch isn't the same is the errorcode wrong which bluewin.ch bzw. bluwin.ch is sending. They must send wrong Username. not relay is not allowed... I think some costumers you must send to bluewin.ch and some to bluwin.ch We maked the test. If bluewin.ch is not gone with bluwin.ch is worked... and when bluwin.ch is not worked then bluewin.ch is worked... Greetings X. Aerni Hi bluewin.ch bluwin.ch have the same MX record... ;-) Which doesn't mean that the mailserver will accept mails for both domains :) btw: bluwin.ch used to belong to Datacomm along time ago. Daniel ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch
Mmmh.. bluewin.ch bluwin.ch have the same MX record... ;-) Cheers Olivier Moin! We have the same Problem... we have the same answer since some days... Exemple of the Error silvio.raffath atbluwin.ch: host mxbw.bluewin.ch[195.186.19.144] said: 550 RCPT TO:silvio.raffath at bluwin.ch Relaying not allowed This is most definately not a technical problem but rather a human problem (aka 'typo'). Have a close look at the recipient's domain and then you'll see that there's missing an 'e'. cheers, - Fabian ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch
Hi bluewin.ch bluwin.ch have the same MX record... ;-) Which doesn't mean that the mailserver will accept mails for both domains :) btw: bluwin.ch used to belong to Datacomm along time ago. Daniel ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch
We have the same Problem... we have the same answer since some days... Exemple of the Error silvio.raffath atbluwin.ch: host mxbw.bluewin.ch[195.186.19.144] said: 550 RCPT TO:silvio.raffath at bluwin.ch Relaying not allowed Has Bluewin a new Fix of this Problems Greetings Xariffusion Informatik Telecom X.Aerni admin at pop.ch i've had the same... i tried to send some invitations to other people. as i'm a friendly user, i've put all e-mail addresses to the bcc field - relaying. when i mailed to each e-mail address separately (in the 'to' field) it has been accepted. looks for me like a wrongly configured anti-mass-mailing filter or a misconfigured mx server ,-) -steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adrian Senn Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:13 AM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch Hi Can someone from bluewin's Relaying not allowed-department please contact me off-list? They seem to have a serious problem. The original message was received at Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:43:59 +0100 from 217-162-48-xx.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.48.xx] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying not allowed) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying not allowed) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to mxbw.bluewin.ch.: RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying not allowed 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying not allowed 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown No i'm not the cablecom customer but a collegue of me which asked. Adrian ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch
To all who asked me for the reason i wanted to contact bluewin My problem is: Relaying not allowed, bu i know the addresses are correct. I've not no feedback from bluewin so far. Best wishes, Matthias - Original Message - From: Steven Glogger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: swinog@swinog.ch Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:18 AM Subject: RE: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch i've had the same... i tried to send some invitations to other people. as i'm a friendly user, i've put all e-mail addresses to the bcc field - relaying. when i mailed to each e-mail address separately (in the 'to' field) it has been accepted. looks for me like a wrongly configured anti-mass-mailing filter or a misconfigured mx server ,-) -steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adrian Senn Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:13 AM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch Hi Can someone from bluewin's Relaying not allowed-department please contact me off-list? They seem to have a serious problem. The original message was received at Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:43:59 +0100 from 217-162-48-xx.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.48.xx] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying not allowed) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying not allowed) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to mxbw.bluewin.ch.: RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying not allowed 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying not allowed 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown No i'm not the cablecom customer but a collegue of me which asked. Adrian ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch
Matthias Hertzog wrote: To all who asked me for the reason i wanted to contact bluewin My problem is: Relaying not allowed, bu i know the addresses are correct. I've not no feedback from bluewin so far. We have the same problem ... with some adresses. Best regards Matthias -- _;\_Matthias Cramer / mc322-ripe System Network Manager /_. \ Dolphins Network Systems AGPhone +41 43 500 |/ -\ .) Josefstrasse 225 Fax +41 44 271 3535 -'^`- \; CH-8005 Zürich http://www.dolphins.ch/ GnuPG 1024D/2D208250 = DBC6 65B6 7083 1029 781E 3959 B62F DF1C 2D20 8250 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
AW: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch
Hi I had the same problem - the same address was OK after a few minutes. Seems that their MX is a bit flaky :/ Regards, Reto -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Matthias Cramer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Januar 2006 10:21 An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch Matthias Hertzog wrote: To all who asked me for the reason i wanted to contact bluewin My problem is: Relaying not allowed, bu i know the addresses are correct. I've not no feedback from bluewin so far. We have the same problem ... with some adresses. Best regards Matthias -- _;\_Matthias Cramer / mc322-ripe System Network Manager /_. \ Dolphins Network Systems AGPhone +41 43 500 |/ -\ .) Josefstrasse 225 Fax +41 44 271 3535 -'^`- \; CH-8005 Zürich http://www.dolphins.ch/ GnuPG 1024D/2D208250 = DBC6 65B6 7083 1029 781E 3959 B62F DF1C 2D20 8250 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch
Hello folks One of our MX servers decided to forget about its configured domains after a crash-and-reboot. It is out of loadbalancing now and being reinstalled. To be sure, I checked the other MX servers and did not find any that misbehaves like that. Regards, Alain -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Cramer Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:21 AM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch Matthias Hertzog wrote: To all who asked me for the reason i wanted to contact bluewin My problem is: Relaying not allowed, bu i know the addresses are correct. I've not no feedback from bluewin so far. We have the same problem ... with some adresses. Best regards Matthias -- _;\_Matthias Cramer / mc322-ripe System Network Manager /_. \ Dolphins Network Systems AGPhone +41 43 500 |/ -\ .) Josefstrasse 225 Fax +41 44 271 3535 -'^`- \; CH-8005 Zürich http://www.dolphins.ch/ GnuPG 1024D/2D208250 = DBC6 65B6 7083 1029 781E 3959 B62F DF1C 2D20 8250 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch
IIRC couple of months ago, I learned that Bluewin only relays mails sent from within their own IP-ranges, i.e. you have to be dialled-in/connected through Bluewin-infrastructure in order to send emails over a Bluewin SMTP server. I.e. even if you had valid credentials to authenticate against the SMTP, it still would say relaying not allowed if you came from hispeed (cablemodem) or any other provider. was this the case, and if yes, has this ban been lifted ? regards umbi --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: RE: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch Datum: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:48:57 +0100 Hello folks One of our MX servers decided to forget about its configured domains after a crash-and-reboot. It is out of loadbalancing now and being reinstalled. To be sure, I checked the other MX servers and did not find any that misbehaves like that. Regards, Alain -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Cramer Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:21 AM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch Matthias Hertzog wrote: To all who asked me for the reason i wanted to contact bluewin My problem is: Relaying not allowed, bu i know the addresses are correct. I've not no feedback from bluewin so far. We have the same problem ... with some adresses. Best regards Matthias -- _;\_Matthias Cramer / mc322-ripe System Network Manager /_. \ Dolphins Network Systems AGPhone +41 43 500 |/ -\ .) Josefstrasse 225 Fax +41 44 271 3535 -'^`- \; CH-8005 Zürich http://www.dolphins.ch/ GnuPG 1024D/2D208250 = DBC6 65B6 7083 1029 781E 3959 B62F DF1C 2D20 8250 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog -- -- visit http://www.umbi.net/privo ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch
Hello Umbi If I understand your question right, the answer is the following: There has been a bug that our MX did announced PLAIN as an authentication method, altough SMTP-Authentication was not allowed on this server farm. This has been fixed a few months ago. (SMTP-Auth is only enabled on smtpauth.bluewin.ch for DSL- and (what used to be) HighWay- customers (ie. those having a Classic or Gold Package.) Regards, Alain -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Umberto Annino Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:26 AM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch IIRC couple of months ago, I learned that Bluewin only relays mails sent from within their own IP-ranges, i.e. you have to be dialled-in/connected through Bluewin-infrastructure in order to send emails over a Bluewin SMTP server. I.e. even if you had valid credentials to authenticate against the SMTP, it still would say relaying not allowed if you came from hispeed (cablemodem) or any other provider. was this the case, and if yes, has this ban been lifted ? regards umbi --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: RE: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch Datum: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:48:57 +0100 Hello folks One of our MX servers decided to forget about its configured domains after a crash-and-reboot. It is out of loadbalancing now and being reinstalled. To be sure, I checked the other MX servers and did not find any that misbehaves like that. Regards, Alain -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Cramer Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:21 AM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch Matthias Hertzog wrote: To all who asked me for the reason i wanted to contact bluewin My problem is: Relaying not allowed, bu i know the addresses are correct. I've not no feedback from bluewin so far. We have the same problem ... with some adresses. Best regards Matthias -- _;\_Matthias Cramer / mc322-ripe System Network Manager /_. \ Dolphins Network Systems AGPhone +41 43 500 |/ -\ .) Josefstrasse 225 Fax +41 44 271 3535 -'^`- \; CH-8005 Zürich http://www.dolphins.ch/ GnuPG 1024D/2D208250 = DBC6 65B6 7083 1029 781E 3959 B62F DF1C 2D20 8250 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog -- -- visit http://www.umbi.net/privo ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] Relay bluewin.ch
Hello Can someone from bluewin's Relaying not allowed-department please contact me off-list? Thanks best wishes, Matthias mhs @ internet AG Zürcherstrasse 204 9014 St. Gallen http://www.mhs.ch Tel: +41 71 274 93 93 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Relay bluewin.ch
Hi Can someone from bluewin's Relaying not allowed-department please contact me off-list? They seem to have a serious problem. The original message was received at Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:43:59 +0100 from 217-162-48-xx.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.48.xx] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying not allowed) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying not allowed) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to mxbw.bluewin.ch.: RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying not allowed 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying not allowed 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown No i'm not the cablecom customer but a collegue of me which asked. Adrian ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
