Re: [swinog] SwissIX goes 10Gig!
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 01:02:30AM +0200, Daniel G. Kluge wrote: Can you send us a trace from your location and probably an ip-address close to you we may ping/trace? Followup please to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because this is of general interest, I'll keep swinog looped in; When I try to reach www.swissix.ch from the internet, it seems that I do make it into AS13030, hitting r9.ipv6.init7.net (2001:1620::9). But the pollux.swissix.ch machine doesn't seem to have a route back to me (AS12859 for example). I noticed that you are using an IXP prefix for your webserver. Looking at SixXS' distributed looking glass[1], I see that still many ISPs are not accepting this /48 into their routing tables (and in my opinion, rightfully so). The IXP prefixes were not meant to host services in, rather only to make sure switch fabric is using a globally unique prefix (which comes in handy with stuff like DNS and ICMP unreachables and the like). I think that RIPE NCC has mentioned something to that effect when 2001:7f8:24::/48 was allocated. It might make more sense to host the webserver from a prefix that is visible in the DFZ everywhere, but I don't think that's the problem here. [1] shows that many people do not have a route for your /48 groet, Pim [1] http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/lg/?when=nowyear=2007month=10day=14hour=19show=allpathsformat=htmlreport_grhwork=onreport_grhfail=onfindtype=prefixfind=2001%3A7f8%3A24%3A%3A%2F48 -- -- - -- - -+- - -- - -- Pim van Pelt Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ipng.nl/ IPv6 Deployment --- ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] SwissIX goes 10Gig!
Hello Pim Followup please to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because this is of general interest, I'll keep swinog looped in; But the pollux.swissix.ch machine doesn't seem to have a route back to me (AS12859 for example). As I explained in another mail already we are probably hit by a kernel-bug which is corrupting the ipv6 kernel-routingtable altough the bgpd-routingtable has a correct view of the world. We are working on this issue and will keep you posted. I noticed that you are using an IXP prefix for your webserver. Yes, that's correct. Looking at SixXS' distributed looking glass[1], I see that still many ISPs are not accepting this /48 into their routing tables (and in my opinion, rightfully so). The IXP prefixes were not meant to host services in, rather only to make sure switch fabric is using a globally unique prefix (which comes in handy with stuff like DNS and ICMP unreachables and the like). I think that RIPE NCC has mentioned something to that effect when 2001:7f8:24::/48 was allocated. RIPE's policy to this topic is clear: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-256.html --snip 4.0 Warning Networks assigned under this policy may not be globally routable. --snap So, yes, you're right, there might be some networks that will not route our ipv6-prefix. Thank you for pointing this out. OTOH we had, have and most probably will operate some services for our members running in that ip-space (also reachable via ipv4). Running these services in another ip-space would afford some entity to sponsor the service and hardware or housing while, at the moment, some peers are generously sponsoring some upstream and we can take care of the rest. Since the later option is a very short amount of work for the sponsors I guess it will stay this way. I think the board maybe will have to consider to stop running the services on IPv6 for the sake of availability. OTOH I'd be interested to hear if any of our peers is blocking our prefix since they are the main audience for our services... -- Best regards, Roman Hochuli Operations Manager nexellent ag Saegereistrasse 29 CH-8152 Glattbrugg Phone: +41 44 562 30 40 Fax: +41 44 562 30 41 URL: www.nexellent.ch X-NCC-RegID: ch.nexellent Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. -- Jules de Gaultier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] SwissIX goes 10Gig!
Am 11.10.2007 um 14:17 schrieb Fredy Kuenzler: SwissIX goes 10Gig! Dear all, The generous offering of SWITCH (AS559) to participate in the cost of a new shiny 10Gig capable platform enables us to go ahead with upgrading the peering infrastructure of SwissIX http:// www.swissix.ch/ while maintaining the idea of a community-driven, non-profit and free internet exchange. Cool stuff But I'm having some problems reaching www.swissix.ch, could someone look please at the IPv6 setup of that machine? no connection, no ping, no traceroute. All works well in IPv4 land. If not even ISPs and IXPs can get IPv6 running reliably *ducks* -daniel ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] SwissIX goes 10Gig!
Daniel Cool stuff But I'm having some problems reaching www.swissix.ch, could someone look please at the IPv6 setup of that machine? no connection, no ping, no traceroute. All works well in IPv4 land. Can you send us a trace from your location and probably an ip-address close to you we may ping/trace? Followup please to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Roman Hochuli Operations Manager nexellent ag Saegereistrasse 29 CH-8152 Glattbrugg Phone: +41 44 562 30 40 Fax: +41 44 562 30 41 URL: www.nexellent.ch X-NCC-RegID: ch.nexellent Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. -- Jules de Gaultier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] SwissIX goes 10Gig!
Am 13.10.2007 um 16:11 schrieb Roman Hochuli: Daniel Cool stuff But I'm having some problems reaching www.swissix.ch, could someone look please at the IPv6 setup of that machine? no connection, no ping, no traceroute. All works well in IPv4 land. Can you send us a trace from your location and probably an ip-address close to you we may ping/trace? Followup please to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here one from myself done just now (You can use 2002:4d39:18eb: 1337::1 for pings and traces): traceroute6 to pollux.swissix.ch (2001:7f8:24::7e) from 2002:4d39:18eb:1337:216:cbff:fea6:a18d, 30 hops max, 12 byte packets 1 2002:4d39:18eb:1337::1 (2002:4d39:18eb:1337::1) 1.32 ms 0.569 ms 0.439 ms 2 2002:c058:6301:: (2002:c058:6301::) 46.86 ms 47.939 ms 47.377 ms 3 v2-1-1-2076.xsr01.asd002a.surf.net (2001:610:f01:9012::13) 63.087 ms 56.471 ms 53.912 ms 4 zt-500.xsr03.asd002a.surf.net (2001:610:e08:40::42) 51.911 ms 74.454 ms 47.248 ms 5 2001:5002:100:7::1 (2001:5002:100:7::1) 84.238 ms 91.246 ms 99.343 ms 6 so-0-0-0-dcr2.fra.cw.net (2001:5000:0:e::1) 85.431 ms 83.645 ms 82.415 ms 7 so-5-0-0-bcr2.fra.cw.net (2001:5000:0:f::2) 84.147 ms so-5-0-0- bcr1.fra.cw.net (2001:5000:0:25::2) 91.195 ms so-5-0-0- bcr2.fra.cw.net (2001:5000:0:f::2) 84.638 ms 8 ge-1-3-0-iar1.fra.cw.net (2001:5000:0:14::3) 83.529 ms ge-0-3-0- iar1.fra.cw.net (2001:5000:0:13::3) 95.866 ms ge-1-3-0- iar1.fra.cw.net (2001:5000:0:14::3) 82.148 ms 9 2001:5001:200:6::2 (2001:5001:200:6::2) 99.614 ms 81.969 ms 82.931 ms 10 s-ipv6-b1-link.ipv6.telia.net (2001:2000:3010::2) 96.119 ms 83.565 ms 83.506 ms 11 adm-ipv6-b1-link.ipv6.telia.net (2001:2000:3010:1::2) 92.504 ms 82.392 ms 84.012 ms 12 2001:2000:3081:c::2 (2001:2000:3081:c::2) 111.058 ms 109.246 ms 110.145 ms 13 r9.ipv6.init7.net (2001:1620::9) 111.648 ms 127.799 ms 113.157 ms 14 * * * And two via sixxs.net: IPv6 traceroute from noc.sixxs.net @ SixXS NOC, AS12871 to www.swissix.ch : Hop Node Loss% Sent Last Avg Best Worst StDev ASNOrganisation 1. 2001:838:1:1::1 0.0% 50.4 0.4 0.4 0.4 0.0 12871 Concepts ICT ge-1-3-0.breda.ipv6.concepts-ict.net. 2. 2001:838:0:10::1 0.0% 52.4 9.7 2.4 38.9 16.3 12871 Concepts ICT 3. 2001:7f8:1::a500:1273:1 0.0% 52.8 3.0 2.8 3.7 0.4 zpr2.amt.cw.net. 4. 2001:5000:0:e::1 0.0% 5 16.5 18.2 16.5 23.6 3.1 1273 Cable Wireless Telecommunication Services GmbH so-0-0-0-dcr2.fra.cw.net. 5. 2001:5000:0:f::2 0.0% 5 16.4 16.5 16.4 16.6 0.0 1273 Cable Wireless Telecommunication Services GmbH so-5-0-0-bcr2.fra.cw.net. 6. 2001:5000:0:13::3 0.0% 5 16.6 16.6 16.5 17.0 0.2 1273 Cable Wireless Telecommunication Services GmbH ge-0-3-0-iar1.fra.cw.net. 7. 2001:5001:200:6::20.0% 5 44.2 44.2 44.0 44.4 0.1 1273 Cable Wireless Telecommunication Services GmbH 8. 2001:2000:3010::2 0.0% 5 43.8 44.0 43.8 44.2 0.2 1299 TeliaSonera AB s-ipv6-b1-link.ipv6.telia.net. 9. 2001:2000:3010:1::2 0.0% 5 53.1 53.7 53.1 53.9 0.3 1299 TeliaSonera AB adm-ipv6-b1-link.ipv6.telia.net. 10. 2001:2000:3081:c::2 0.0% 5 81.7 149.3 81.4 346.8 114.9 1299 TeliaSonera AB 11. 2001:1620::9 0.0% 5 190.9 153.2 82.1 258.7 75.2 13030 Init Seven AG r9.ipv6.init7.net. 12. ??? 100.0 50.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 IPv6 traceroute IPv6 traceroute from deham01.sixxs.net @ Easynet, AS4589 to www.swissix.ch : Hop Node Loss% Sent Last Avg Best Worst StDev ASNOrganisation 1. 2001:6f8:800:1003::209:55 0.0% 52.7 40.0 2.0 189.9 83.8 4589 Easynet Group Ltd vl101.cr21.isham.de.easynet.net. 2. 2001:6f8:800:0:1:b:1:13 0.0% 52.4 18.9 1.3 86.0 37.5 4589 Easynet Group Ltd ge1-3.br3.isham.de.easynet.net. 3. 2001:6f8:800:0:1:18:209:520.0% 5 17.3 17.9 17.3 18.5 0.5 4589 Easynet Group Ltd ge0-2-0-123.br1.ixfra.de.easynet.net. 4. 2001:6f8:800:0:1:4:10:40 0.0% 5 17.5 18.0 17.4 18.7 0.6 4589 Easynet Group Ltd fe0-0.6er0.ixfra.de.easynet.net. 5. 2001:7f8::cb9:0:1 0.0% 5 18.2 18.4 18.0 19.1 0.5 de-cix.fra20.ip6.tiscali.net. 6. 2001:668:0:2::1:442 0.0% 5 18.4 19.1 18.4 19.6 0.6Tiscali International Network B.V. ge-5-1-0.fra10.ip6.tiscali.net. 7. 2001:668:0:2::4b0 0.0% 5 18.5 19.0 18.5 19.6 0.5Tiscali International Network B.V.
