Re: [swinog] IPv6 BGP unicast peers / OSPFv3 neighbors SNMP monitoring

2012-02-10 Diskussionsfäden Mickael Deniaud (mdeniaud)
Hi,

Just posting some information I sent to marco this week that may be of
interest to some of you.
Cheers.

Mickael


On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Mickael Deniaud (mdeniaud)
mdeni...@cisco.com wrote:
 Hello Marco,

 Unicast answer as I'm from Cisco and your initial question was more 
 about your peers experience.

 Anyway, I just did a quick check on where we are on this topic, in 
 case that helps.
 This is the reply I had last Friday from our BGP product manager 
 (Bertrand Duvivier).


 -- SNIP --

 A/ we do support IPv6 and 4 bytes AS with cisco-bgp-mibv2, theses mib 
 are encoded with ietf-bgp-mibv2 definition.
 B/ we do support BGP peer info via XML (including 32b ASN and IPv6 AF
 fields)

 Now the difference between XML and MIB is Current XML: XML has it's 
 own proprietary data encoding: Cisco XR like or Juniper like.
 MIB are following ietf standards.

 Moving forward we plan to build a BGP open API / SDK: customer will 
 have access to same data using direct access to API, or using XML - 
 API shim formatting data into  standard XML encoding such as YAP,
SOAP,...
 format.

 -- SNIP


 Additional information.

 We have support for BGP / IPv6 peers and OSPFv3 MIBs in IOS XR since 
 at least XR 3.9 (platform independent):

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios_xr_sw/mib/guide/crs+gsr_mib3.html#wp
2087201

 For other IOS releases, cisco-bgp-mibv2 is available on IOS XE since 
 3.5 release (ASR1000 and ASR903 platforms):

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ios_xe/3/release/notes/asr1k_feats_i
mportant_notes_35s.html#wp3215951

 More broadly speaking, internal engineering tickets show that support 
 for v6 peers in BGP MIB will be integrated in the following IOS
 releases: 15.2(3)T, 15.2(1)S.

 OSPFv3 MIB is stated for IOS 15.2(2)S. I suspect it will also be 
 available in 15.2(3)T but I cannot confirm.


 Feel free to contact me if you have additional questions. I'll try to 
 help as much as I can.

 Rgds,

Mickael





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From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch
[mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Marco Fretz
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:29 AM
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Subject: [swinog] IPv6 BGP unicast peers / OSPFv3 neighbors SNMP
monitoring

Hi SwiNOGers,

I started searching the web for a good solution on this task years
ago. There was and is as far I can tell no actual SNMP MIB for
monitoring IPv6 BGP and OSPFv3. The only thing that could be a
solution is this already expired IETF draft
http://tools.ietf.or/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-mibv2-10

Can anyone give me an idea of how you are monitoring your IPv6 BGP
peers and OSPFv3 neighbors (stuff like Status, prefixes, etc..)?

Thanks a lot,
best regards
Marco


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Re: [swinog] IPv6 BGP unicast peers / OSPFv3 neighbors SNMP monitoring

2012-02-03 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2012-02-03 09:29 , Marco Fretz wrote:
 Hi SwiNOGers,
 
 I started searching the web for a good solution on this task years
 ago. There was and is as far I can tell no actual SNMP MIB for
 monitoring IPv6 BGP and OSPFv3. The only thing that could be a
 solution is this already expired IETF draft
 http://tools.ietf.or/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-mibv2-10
 
 Can anyone give me an idea of how you are monitoring your IPv6 BGP
 peers and OSPFv3 neighbors (stuff like Status, prefixes, etc..)?

Depending on the device, telnet/ssh into it, execute the relevant 'show
bgp neigh' command and use that.

Not ideal and one has to do this generally for a variety of things, but
it avoids this weird thing called SNMP ;)

Greets,
 Jeroen


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Re: [swinog] IPv6 BGP unicast peers / OSPFv3 neighbors SNMP monitoring

2012-02-03 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin
here's a bunch of tools I developed for Sunrise:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/toponet/

If I would do it now, I would do it with gerty:
https://github.com/ssinyagin/gerty






 From: Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org
To: Marco Fretz marco.fr...@gmail.com 
Cc: swinog@lists.swinog.ch 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [swinog] IPv6 BGP unicast peers / OSPFv3 neighbors SNMP monitoring
 
On 2012-02-03 09:29 , Marco Fretz wrote:
 Hi SwiNOGers,
 
 I started searching the web for a good solution on this task years
 ago. There was and is as far I can tell no actual SNMP MIB for
 monitoring IPv6 BGP and OSPFv3. The only thing that could be a
 solution is this already expired IETF draft
 http://tools.ietf.or/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-mibv2-10
 
 Can anyone give me an idea of how you are monitoring your IPv6 BGP
 peers and OSPFv3 neighbors (stuff like Status, prefixes, etc..)?

Depending on the device, telnet/ssh into it, execute the relevant 'show
bgp neigh' command and use that.

Not ideal and one has to do this generally for a variety of things, but
it avoids this weird thing called SNMP ;)


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Re: [swinog] IPv6 BGP unicast peers / OSPFv3 neighbors SNMP monitoring

2012-02-03 Diskussionsfäden Marco Fretz
Thanks for the answers. Maybe I've to clarify that I need this for
Cisco only at the moment. So can I take this as a there is no working
snmp mib / implementation yet?

It's somehow a shame that Cisco has IPv6 routing protocols working for
years and no working snmp (even not a proprietary) solution yet.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'll have a look at gerty, sounds promising, also for other
applications, but I'm still looking for an snmp solution because it's
just ugly to use console commands (in whatever way) to query simple
counters and status information when you already have the whole
network monitored and graphed by snmp.


Marco

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote:
 On 2012-02-03 09:29 , Marco Fretz wrote:
 Hi SwiNOGers,

 I started searching the web for a good solution on this task years
 ago. There was and is as far I can tell no actual SNMP MIB for
 monitoring IPv6 BGP and OSPFv3. The only thing that could be a
 solution is this already expired IETF draft
 http://tools.ietf.or/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-mibv2-10

 Can anyone give me an idea of how you are monitoring your IPv6 BGP
 peers and OSPFv3 neighbors (stuff like Status, prefixes, etc..)?

 Depending on the device, telnet/ssh into it, execute the relevant 'show
 bgp neigh' command and use that.

 Not ideal and one has to do this generally for a variety of things, but
 it avoids this weird thing called SNMP ;)

 Greets,
  Jeroen


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Re: [swinog] IPv6 BGP unicast peers / OSPFv3 neighbors SNMP monitoring

2012-02-03 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin
BGP peering information (ipv6 and 32-bit ASN) is simply not available via SNMP 
-- on both Cisco and Juniper.
So, you end up with CLI parsing if you really need that.

With Junipers, there's also an XML interface which is easier to process and is 
more reliable (with Cisco CLI, linebreaks are sometimes a pain).

IOS XR also provides an XML interface, but I never had a chance to check if BGP 
peering information is in there.






 From: Marco Fretz marco.fr...@gmail.com
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [swinog] IPv6 BGP unicast peers / OSPFv3 neighbors SNMP monitoring
 
Thanks for the answers. Maybe I've to clarify that I need this for
Cisco only at the moment. So can I take this as a there is no working
snmp mib / implementation yet?

It's somehow a shame that Cisco has IPv6 routing protocols working for
years and no working snmp (even not a proprietary) solution yet.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'll have a look at gerty, sounds promising, also for other
applications, but I'm still looking for an snmp solution because it's
just ugly to use console commands (in whatever way) to query simple
counters and status information when you already have the whole
network monitored and graphed by snmp.


Marco

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote:
 On 2012-02-03 09:29 , Marco Fretz wrote:
 Hi SwiNOGers,

 I started searching the web for a good solution on this task years
 ago. There was and is as far I can tell no actual SNMP MIB for
 monitoring IPv6 BGP and OSPFv3. The only thing that could be a
 solution is this already expired IETF draft
 http://tools.ietf.or/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-mibv2-10

 Can anyone give me an idea of how you are monitoring your IPv6 BGP
 peers and OSPFv3 neighbors (stuff like Status, prefixes, etc..)?

 Depending on the device, telnet/ssh into it, execute the relevant 'show
 bgp neigh' command and use that.

 Not ideal and one has to do this generally for a variety of things, but
 it avoids this weird thing called SNMP ;)

 Greets,
  Jeroen


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Re: [swinog] IPv6 BGP unicast peers / OSPFv3 neighbors SNMP monitoring

2012-02-03 Diskussionsfäden Marco Fretz
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@yahoo.com wrote:
 BGP peering information (ipv6 and 32-bit ASN) is simply not available via
 SNMP -- on both Cisco and Juniper.

okay I see. That confirms my suspicion :) Thanks.

 So, you end up with CLI parsing if you really need that.

Why should someone don't need to monitor IPv6? You simply have to if
your services and customers depend on IPv6.


 With Junipers, there's also an XML interface which is easier to process and
 is more reliable (with Cisco CLI, linebreaks are sometimes a pain).

 IOS XR also provides an XML interface, but I never had a chance to check if
 BGP peering information is in there.


So I guess I'll write or search for a CLI to SNMP or CLI to cacti /
icinga script that does the job. Maybe gerty can help here...
If anyone has similar scripts laying around please post it if possible.

Also I would welcome a few more ideas and examples of how other ISPs do that...

Thanks
have a nice weekend

Marco



 
 From: Marco Fretz marco.fr...@gmail.com
 To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 2:58 PM

 Subject: Re: [swinog] IPv6 BGP unicast peers / OSPFv3 neighbors SNMP
 monitoring

 Thanks for the answers. Maybe I've to clarify that I need this for
 Cisco only at the moment. So can I take this as a there is no working
 snmp mib / implementation yet?

 It's somehow a shame that Cisco has IPv6 routing protocols working for
 years and no working snmp (even not a proprietary) solution yet.
 Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 I'll have a look at gerty, sounds promising, also for other
 applications, but I'm still looking for an snmp solution because it's
 just ugly to use console commands (in whatever way) to query simple
 counters and status information when you already have the whole
 network monitored and graphed by snmp.


 Marco

 On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote:
 On 2012-02-03 09:29 , Marco Fretz wrote:
 Hi SwiNOGers,

 I started searching the web for a good solution on this task years
 ago. There was and is as far I can tell no actual SNMP MIB for
 monitoring IPv6 BGP and OSPFv3. The only thing that could be a
 solution is this already expired IETF draft
 http://tools.ietf.or/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-mibv2-10

 Can anyone give me an idea of how you are monitoring your IPv6 BGP
 peers and OSPFv3 neighbors (stuff like Status, prefixes, etc..)?

 Depending on the device, telnet/ssh into it, execute the relevant 'show
 bgp neigh' command and use that.

 Not ideal and one has to do this generally for a variety of things, but
 it avoids this weird thing called SNMP ;)

 Greets,
  Jeroen


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