Re: [swinog] MX Swissonline Down?
Hi On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 01:02:44AM +0100, Erich Hohermuth wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2004 00:19, Fabian Uebersax wrote: - cablecom applies filters whenever they feel like Lets play a silly game like: I block you because you block me ! Let the customers be the referees. This is what led us to this! We had problems with swissonline as well (blocking our mailservers ips), and when we talked to them they were like ``They (AOL, Hotmail) do this to us too, thats why we do it too'' I absolutely don't think that this will solve anything (``Was du nicht willst das man dir tut das fueg auch keinem anderen zu'' heisst es doch so schoen ;) ) Gruss Flavio -- http://no-way.org/~fcu/ Mach mit bei der Community-Bibliothek - In Zuerich/CH http://zurich.communitybooks.org/ - Worldwide http://dlpdev.theps.net/ListOfExistingDlpNodes -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
[swinog] MX Swissonline Down?
Hello We have more and more questions from customers which cannot send emails to swissonline.ch. It seems that since some days swissonline is swissoffline :-) Does someone know why mx.hispeed.ch is down? dig swissonline.ch mx: ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;swissonline.ch.IN MX ;; ANSWER SECTION: swissonline.ch. 2597IN MX 10 mx.hispeed.ch. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: mx.hispeed.ch. 8093IN A 62.2.95.11 telnet mx.hispeed.ch 25 Trying 62.2.95.11... - no answer. Peter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
R: [swinog] MX Swissonline Down?
telnet mx.hispeed.ch 25 Trying 62.2.95.11... 220 mx.hispeed.ch ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6/tornado-1.0; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:06:27 +0100 -Messaggio originale- Da: Peter Baumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: mercoledì, 21. gennaio 2004 15:53 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto: [swinog] MX Swissonline Down? Hello We have more and more questions from customers which cannot send emails to swissonline.ch. It seems that since some days swissonline is swissoffline :-) Does someone know why mx.hispeed.ch is down? ___ Ticinocom SA - Via dei Pioppi 10 - 6616 Losone Tel 0844 007070 - Fax 0844 007071 http://www.ticinocom.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
Re: R: [swinog] MX Swissonline Down?
Well, the first comment about a LoadBalancer to get high-availability is not really a solution: What happens if the router or switch or whatever goes down? So co-locate please! Secondly, what about this: - Transcript of session follows - while talking to mx.hispeed.ch.: DATA 550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Fix reverse DNS for 217.118.195.58 or use your ISPs mail server I have a reverse entry for my 217.xxx ... Any clues? -ram -- Raffael Marty, CISSP Security Engineer Lead Content Team @ ArcSight Inc. 1309 South Mary Ave, Sunnyvale, CA 94002, USA quote who=Manuel Wenger telnet mx.hispeed.ch 25 Trying 62.2.95.11... 220 mx.hispeed.ch ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6/tornado-1.0; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:06:27 +0100 -Messaggio originale- Da: Peter Baumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: mercoledì, 21. gennaio 2004 15:53 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto: [swinog] MX Swissonline Down? Hello We have more and more questions from customers which cannot send emails to swissonline.ch. It seems that since some days swissonline is swissoffline :-) Does someone know why mx.hispeed.ch is down? ___ Ticinocom SA - Via dei Pioppi 10 - 6616 Losone Tel 0844 007070 - Fax 0844 007071 http://www.ticinocom.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
RE: [swinog] MX Swissonline Down?
EHLO, Secondly, what about this: - Transcript of session follows - while talking to mx.hispeed.ch.: DATA 550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Fix reverse DNS for 217.118.195.58 or use your ISPs mail server I have a reverse entry for my 217.xxx ... Any clues? Hmm, doesn't work for me: - # dig -x 217.118.195.58 ; DiG 9.2.3 -x 217.118.195.58 ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 17103 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 - Well, at least you're able to establish a _connection_ to mx.hispeed.ch :- Our server IP range was blocked there for days and days but after a gazillion of mails and phone calls I finally found a friend of mine whose friend is a friend [...] of someone who works at cablecom and happens to be sitting next to the cablecom mailserver admin. So finally they added a -j ACCEPT rule for our MTAsduh! Let's see if I can find out any contact information of that admin BTW, the following explanations were given to me: - cablecom applies filters whenever they feel like - no-one gets informed when a filter is added - the filter will remain active until the admin of the IP / IP range that was filtered contacts cablecom - they do not read mails sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]/swissonline.ch, quote there are simply too many mails coming in there so it's easier to simply /dev/null all of them sigh! cheers, - Fabian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
RE: R: [swinog] MX Swissonline Down?
Raffy, $ nslookup 217.118.195.58 Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 *** localhost can't find 217.118.195.58: Non-existent host/domain So let's see: $ nslookup Default Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 set type=soa 195.118.217.in-addr.arpa Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 Non-authoritative answer: 195.118.217.in-addr.arpa origin = ns1.into.ch mail addr = postmaster.into.ch serial = 2003122001 refresh = 7200 (2 hours) retry = 1800 (30 mins) expire = 1209600 (14 days) minimum ttl = 86400 (1 day) Authoritative answers can be found from: 195.118.217.in-addr.arpanameserver = ns2.into.ch 195.118.217.in-addr.arpanameserver = ns1.into.ch ns2.into.ch internet address = 217.118.199.11 ns1.into.ch internet address = 217.118.195.11 server ns1.into.ch Default Server: ns1.into.ch Address: 217.118.195.11 217.118.195.58 Server: ns1.into.ch Address: 217.118.195.11 *** ns1.into.ch can't find 217.118.195.58: Non-existent host/domain I am not highly convinced on Cablecom quality - at least on certain services, but at least our DNS nor the authority for this network are not able to resolve the address listed - sorry, but _this_ does not look like a Cablecom problem here. -Kurt. PS. Yes, I am aware of dig, but I am over 42 ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raffael Marty Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: R: [swinog] MX Swissonline Down? Well, the first comment about a LoadBalancer to get high-availability is not really a solution: What happens if the router or switch or whatever goes down? So co-locate please! Secondly, what about this: - Transcript of session follows - while talking to mx.hispeed.ch.: DATA 550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Fix reverse DNS for 217.118.195.58 or use your ISPs mail server I have a reverse entry for my 217.xxx ... Any clues? -ram -- Raffael Marty, CISSP Security Engineer Lead Content Team @ ArcSight Inc. 1309 South Mary Ave, Sunnyvale, CA 94002, USA quote who=Manuel Wenger telnet mx.hispeed.ch 25 Trying 62.2.95.11... 220 mx.hispeed.ch ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6/tornado-1.0; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:06:27 +0100 -Messaggio originale- Da: Peter Baumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: mercoledì, 21. gennaio 2004 15:53 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto: [swinog] MX Swissonline Down? Hello We have more and more questions from customers which cannot send emails to swissonline.ch. It seems that since some days swissonline is swissoffline :-) Does someone know why mx.hispeed.ch is down? ___ Ticinocom SA - Via dei Pioppi 10 - 6616 Losone Tel 0844 007070 - Fax 0844 007071 http://www.ticinocom.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
Re: R: [swinog] MX Swissonline Down?
Yet another test ;-) 550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Fix reverse DNS for 217.118.195.58 or use your ISPs mail server I have a reverse entry for my 217.xxx ... Any clues? Are you sure ? 1. Check #whois -h whois.ripe.net 195.118.217.in-addr.arpa domain: 195.118.217.in-addr.arpa descr:Reverse delegation for Internet Online AG admin-c: RB351-RIPE admin-c: RM1122-RIPE tech-c: RB351-RIPE tech-c: RM1122-RIPE zone-c: RB351-RIPE zone-c: RM1122-RIPE nserver: ns1.into.ch nserver: ns2.into.ch changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020111 source: RIPE 2.Check #dig @ns1.into.ch 58.195.118.217.in-addr.arpa ANY ; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN Erich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
Re: [swinog] MX Swissonline Down?
Hi - cablecom applies filters whenever they feel like - no-one gets informed when a filter is added Same for our customer. We (cevinet.ch; hosting service for ymca/ywca switzerland also know as cevi) do forward a lot of mails to the hosting providers in Switzerland. The spam filter remove the mails without a warning to the customer. I saw on the logfile a successful sending. But the mail never reached the customer. Very sad. Only solution for the moment: Disable Spam filtering on the webformular. Bad spamfiltering :-/ - the filter will remain active until the admin of the IP / IP range that was filtered contacts cablecom - they do not read mails sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]/swissonline.ch, quote there are simply too many mails coming in there so it's easier to simply /dev/null all of them Seems to be a black hole. -- Kind regards Adrian Senn -- |p mbox: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | |g mbox: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASCII ribbon campaign ( )| |www: http://www.senn.ch/ - against HTML email X | | http://www.cevinet.ch/vCards / \| -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
Re: [swinog] MX Swissonline Down?
On Thursday 22 January 2004 00:19, Fabian Uebersax wrote: - cablecom applies filters whenever they feel like - no-one gets informed when a filter is added - the filter will remain active until the admin of the IP / IP range that was filtered contacts cablecom - they do not read mails sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]/swissonline.ch, quote there are simply too many mails coming in there so it's easier to simply /dev/null all of them Ok, at least we have a statement. As I always say, everyone is free to accept mails or not. After all you will get only spam and everything else is blocked ;-. Lets play a silly game like: I block you because you block me ! Let the customers be the referees. just my 0.5 Sfr. Regards Erich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
