[swinog] Received some fun letter from UVEK ?
I hope we're all having a big party together tonite to welcome that nice document - what are we doing to do? - go down to the street with banners? - try to implement as best as possible, even if it doesnt exactly fit in the requirements ? - I remember Orange communications has been involved in the creation of this law and.. I m pretty sure they wont be ready on time - Start a cookies business (my well known sentence :-P) - We could do nothing and pay the fines (are those fines already defined?) so !?!?! use swinog! lets work together We could open a Working-Group for Lawful Interception. [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
AW: [swinog] Received some fun letter from UVEK ?
hi pascal the shitty letter about 'packet switched services / delivery of intercepted electronic mail'? hmm i don't know what to do with it :) - what are we doing to do? drink tea and eat cookies. and use this letter as notice paper for further swinog meetings :) - go down to the street with banners? not good idea. this is confidential. if we go on street with banners it's not confidential at all :) - try to implement as best as possible, even if it doesnt exactly fit in the requirements ? sounds good. haven't you received that damn spam from 'khamsin security' ? (we developped bblabla.. server..blabla.. LIMES MailControl...blabla..). - I remember Orange communications has been involved in the creation of this law and.. I m pretty sure they wont be ready on time :-) - Start a cookies business (my well known sentence :-P) i prefer to open a rice plantage in the south of bolivia :) - We could do nothing and pay the fines (are those fines already defined?) dunno... i think this is not an good idea. won't be cheap. so !?!?! use swinog! lets work together so, why don't we develop an open-source software? (see older swinog mails) We could open a Working-Group for Lawful Interception. [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) would be a good idea. but remember the 'classified/confidential' status of the letter. -steven -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Pascal Gloor Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Februar 2003 14:24 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [swinog] Received some fun letter from UVEK ? I hope we're all having a big party together tonite to welcome that nice document - what are we doing to do? - go down to the street with banners? - try to implement as best as possible, even if it doesnt exactly fit in the requirements ? - I remember Orange communications has been involved in the creation of this law and.. I m pretty sure they wont be ready on time - Start a cookies business (my well known sentence :-P) - We could do nothing and pay the fines (are those fines already defined?) so !?!?! use swinog! lets work together We could open a Working-Group for Lawful Interception. [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
RE: [swinog] Received some fun letter from UVEK ?
would be a good idea. but remember the 'classified/confidential' status of the letter. Why are this specifiations classified? It is such a big secret? *huh* From my part i don't see any problem. Or have you subscribe some sort of Lawful interception NDA ? regards, mike -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
Re: [swinog] Received some fun letter from UVEK ?
not good idea. this is confidential. if we go on street with banners it's not confidential at all :) would be a good idea. but remember the 'classified/confidential' status of the letter. Sure, the content of the letter is confidential, but dont forget that 99% of the letter content is covered by a document on a public website http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog4/intercept.zip We still have to work together ! Why would we do 200 times the same thing ? I still propose an [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be opened asap. Fredy can you do that? P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
R: [swinog] Received some fun letter from UVEK ?
From my part i don't see any problem. Or have you subscribe some sort of Lawful interception NDA ? No, you haven't, but I've asked a lawyer, and yes - a law exists saying that the Swiss guvm't can send you classified letters, and you're supposed to treat them this way. Otherwise you could face put the usual punishments here Anyway, I think it would be a great idea to open a mailing list to work together on this problem. Basically we all received the letter here. UVEK also told me that I'm allowed to disclose the information contained in their letters to anyone cooperating with the ISP in order to comply with the requirements (ie. I'm allowed to send the letters to the company who sold me the mail server, if I'm willing to pay them to implement the requirements). Hope this helps Regards Manuel ___ Ticinocom SA - Via dei Pioppi 10 - 6616 Losone Tel 0844 007070 - Fax 0844 007071 http://www.ticino.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
Re: [swinog] Received some fun letter from UVEK ?
Pascal Gloor wrote: I still propose an [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be opened asap. Fredy can you do that? Ok, will do until tomorrow evening. Anyone able to provide some MhonArc mail archive functionality, which allows password protected archive / search? F. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
