Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS / JavaScript bindings

[Troy A. Griffitts]

Thanks Gary. That's perfect. It looks like some how the "Bible" it decided to 
use as the master display is: Maps by American Bible Society

And the last bit of debug output I see is from bishop.js line 856 before the 
app crashes. This should get me to the problem. Thank you so much for all the 
time that went in to providing the log. I'll probably have a look tomorrow.

Troy

On March 4, 2018 6:51:47 PM MST, Gary Holmlund  wrote:
>Troy,
>
>Here is the logcat for one startup/crash. See attached file.
>
>I have BibleTime Mobile and about 15 modules.
>
>Gary
>
>
>On 03/04/2018 03:51 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>> Thanks Gary. Any more info? I only have emulators here. Anything from
>
>> logcat? Do you have AndBible installed? Curious if maybe you have a 
>> specific module already installed via AndBible which might be causing
>
>> trouble. Any more info from people having startup issues would be 
>> great. I'll keep trying more emulators.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> On March 4, 2018 3:31:41 PM MST, Gary Holmlund 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I have a Galaxy S8+ and have the same crash on startup that Chris
>> has. It was version 1.02 and Android 7.0.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On 03/04/2018 02:13 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>> Hi Chris, thanks for the report on a Galaxy S8. 2 questions.
>Have
>>> you tried version 1.0.2 which was released yesterday evening? It
>>> has fixes for older phones. If yes, then can you tell me what
>>> version of Android is on your phone?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>> On March 4, 2018 2:02:34 PM MST, Chris Umphress
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Troy,
>>>
>>> I have a Galaxy S8 and finally installed Bishop now that it
>>> is on the Play Store. On launch, the app shows a grey screen
>>> and then crashes. I sent feedback with the logs, but let me
>>> know if I can help in any way to debug this.
>>>
>>> Chris Umphress
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 5:05 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I've had 2 instances of problems running the app.  One
>>> was a report from a user here, and another was trying to
>>> install the app on my TV.  In both cases, the app showed
>>> a blank gray screen after install and and startup.
>>>
>>> I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some
>>> point, so I'm not a very good clean test case.  Has
>>> anyone had any luck installing and getting the basic set
>>> of modules running? Or any problems?  Thanks for any
>>> feedback.
>>>
>>>
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>>>
>
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote:
 *_Suggestion:_*
 Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop
 
 and add these details.

 Best regards,

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 On 1 March 2018 2:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
  
>wrote:

> Dear team,
>
> You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings
>for
> SWORD for quite some time now.  We now have a simple
> reader written in JavaScript which will run unchanged
> on both Android and iOS.Bishop includes an InstallMgr
> to auto-discover remote installation sources and let a
> user install SWORD content.
>
> I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my
> favorite android (from Aliens) and almost appropriate
> for a Bible app :)  I've also tacked on our boring
> moniker from our Windows app, "Bishop: The SWORD
> Project for Android".  Long name but should get more
> search hits.
>
> Basically, Bishop's UI has 2 basic modes:
>
> *Reader*: which simply shows 1 chapter of up to 3
> Bibles in parallel.
> *Verse* *Study*: When in reader mode, as the user
> scrolls, one verse will always be active, when
> "Verse Study" is chosen from the menu, the user
>can
> then drill down into that active verse.  Verse
> Study has 4 tools:*
> *
>
> *Word* *Study*: shows the 

Re: [sword-devel] Using Multiple Front-ends

[DM Smith]

JSword tries to discover all local repositories to present their modules to the 
user. It will install only to one location. By default, it will use ~/.sword on 
Un*x. I forget where on modern windows, but it is different than Xiphos. And on 
Mac it will ~/Library/Application Support/Sword.

Just looked at And Bible and it uses Environment.getExternalStorageDirectory() 
+ "/Android/data/"+PACKAGE_NAME+"/files/, for modules. So it is over-riding 
JSword’s mechanism for finding modules and installing them. Don’t know how 
Bishop was able to find them.

In Him,
DM


> On Mar 4, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Karl Kleinpaste  wrote:
> 
> On 03/04/2018 08:46 PM, bschroe...@internode.on.net wrote:
>> I am using Linux, Windows and Android.
> FYI in Sword, this is in swmgr.cpp:
> const char *SWMgr::globalConfPath = 
> "/etc/sword.conf:/usr/local/etc/sword.conf";
> /etc/sword.conf references /usr/share/sword by default. Typically, though, 
> this is unused, module installation tending toward being a personal matter.
> 
> And so then $HOME/.sword is also checked in swmgr.cpp.
> 
> Along the way, $SWORD_PATH is handled.
> 
> OS-specific hackery includes the Windows check:
> // for various flavors of windoze...
> // check %ALLUSERSPROFILE%/Application Data/sword/
> 
> No mention of Android in the code, but it's Linux, except that I'm not aware 
> that $HOME means anything in Android...
> 
> Don't neglect that SWMgr's general goal is the amalgamation of all discovered 
> module areas, e.g. you can have modules in both /usr/share/sword and 
> ~/.sword. I don't know the rules for precedence in that case, if e.g. 
> kjv.conf is found in each.
> 
> This is all in Sword. No clues about JSword's habits.
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Re: [sword-devel] Using Multiple Front-ends

[Karl Kleinpaste]

On 03/04/2018 08:46 PM, bschroe...@internode.on.net wrote:
> I am using Linux, Windows and Android.
FYI in Sword, this is in swmgr.cpp:
const char *SWMgr::globalConfPath =
"/etc/sword.conf:/usr/local/etc/sword.conf";
/etc/sword.conf references /usr/share/sword by default. Typically,
though, this is unused, module installation tending toward being a
personal matter.

And so then $HOME/.sword is also checked in swmgr.cpp.

Along the way, $SWORD_PATH is handled.

OS-specific hackery includes the Windows check:
    // for various flavors of windoze...
    // check %ALLUSERSPROFILE%/Application Data/sword/

No mention of Android in the code, but it's Linux, except that I'm not
aware that $HOME means anything in Android...

Don't neglect that SWMgr's general goal is the amalgamation of all
discovered module areas, e.g. you can have modules in both
/usr/share/sword and ~/.sword. I don't know the rules for precedence in
that case, if e.g. kjv.conf is found in each.

This is all in Sword. No clues about JSword's habits.
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Re: [sword-devel] Using Multiple Front-ends

[bschroeder]

Hmm.  Thanks.

I am using Bibletime-mini, since that is what I had installed on a
previous Nokia Symbian device.

On linux I have Bibletime and Xiphos, and I'm sure they both have
separate local repositories.  I will have to check again when I get
home. 

 Brian

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Subject:Re: [sword-devel] Using Multiple Front-ends

 As reported earlier, Bishop and And Bible use the same module
location on the one device. If you install on one it will be available
on the other. I don’t know if a restart is needed by the other app.
 On Un*x, they are all stored at ~/.sword by default. 
 In Him,   DM

 On Mar 4, 2018, at 8:46 PM, bschroe...@internode.on.net [1] wrote: 
 I am using Linux, Windows and Android.

What prompted it this time is that I just installed Bishop on Android,
and was immediately prompted to download some texts to get started.

I will try SWORD_PATH on my computers later (thank you), but for now
it is Android I am particularly thinking of.

Brian.

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By default, all the desktop apps I know about should use the same
paths. On phones, this probably depends greatly on which OS you're in
I don't think it's possible with iOS, but it might be possible with
Android. That would depend on the app, though.  
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 7:36 PM,  wrote:

 When installing multiple front-ends on a phone or computer, how do I
configure them all to use the same texts?  At the moment they all
want me to download a separate copy for each of them.  So, for
example, if I have 3 front-end applications and want KJV in each of
them I have to download it 3 times and store 3 copies.

 I assume there has to be a (simple) way to do this.

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Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS / JavaScript bindings

[Michael Johnson]

Aloha, Troy!

Aha! Your log was enlightening. By chance, the currently viewed location was in 
Psalms when I attempted to read from the New Testament. Instead of moving to 
the next available verse (probably the best thing to do) or telling me that 
this reference was not in the current Bible translation (second best), I just 
got a spinning wheel of death. After switching back to a full Bible, then 
navigating to John 1, I could open up the Spanish Versión Biblia Libre just 
fine and actually read it.

Thanks for working on this!


...
03-04 15:46:00.661  3467 11697 D libsword.so: setKeyText(spavbl2018eb, Psalms 
18:4)
03-04 15:46:00.662  3467 11697 D libsword.so: *setKeyText(spavbl2018eb, Psalms 
18:4)*
03-04 15:46:00.672  3467  3467 D SystemWebChromeClient: 
file:///android_asset/www/js/bishop.js: Line 858 : got chapter data for: 
Spanish Free Bible Version NT; chapterData.length: 50
03-04 15:46:00.672  3467  3467 I chromium: [INFO:CONSOLE(858)] "got chapter 
data for: Spanish Free Bible Version NT; chapterData.length: 50", source: 
file:///android_asset/www/js/bishop.js (858)
03-04 15:46:00.672  3467  3467 D SystemWebChromeClient: 
file:///android_asset/www/js/bishop.js: Line 874 : calling headerLoop : 1
03-04 15:46:00.672  3467  3467 I chromium: [INFO:CONSOLE(874)] "calling 
headerLoop : 1", source: file:///android_asset/www/js/bishop.js (874)
03-04 15:46:00.672  3467  3467 D SystemWebChromeClient: 
file:///android_asset/www/js/bishop.js: Line 744 : headerLoopContinue. 
mods.length: 0; renderData.length: 0
03-04 15:46:00.672  3467  3467 I chromium: [INFO:CONSOLE(744)] 
"headerLoopContinue. mods.length: 0; renderData.length: 0", source: 
file:///android_asset/www/js/bishop.js (744)
03-04 15:46:00.683  3467  3467 D SystemWebChromeClient: 
file:///android_asset/www/cordova.js: *Line 309 : Error in Success callbackId: 
SWORD1089568890 : TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined*
03-04 15:46:00.683  3467  3467 I chromium: [INFO:CONSOLE(309)] "Error in 
Success callbackId: SWORD1089568890 : TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' 
of undefined", source: file:///android_asset/www/cordova.js (309)
03-04 15:46:00.683  3467  3467 D SystemWebChromeClient: 
file:///android_asset/www/cordova.js: Line 311 : Uncaught TypeError: Cannot 
read property 'length' of undefined
03-04 15:46:00.683  3467  3467 I chromium: [INFO:CONSOLE(311)] "Uncaught 
TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined", source: 
file:///android_asset/www/cordova.js (311)
03-04 15:46:03.099   517   570 I SFPerfTracer:  triggers: (rate: 0:1) 
(7195700 sw vsyncs) (0 skipped) (2:153120 vsyncs) (4:7393470)
03-04 15:46:05.124   517   517 I SFPerfTracer:  triggers: (rate: 55:6766) 
(compose: 0:29) (post: 1:35) (render: 1:67) (1:114732 frames) (2:143075)
03-04 15:46:05.124   517   517 D SFPerfTracer:    layers: (3:8) (StatusBar 
(0xab115400): 0:27575) (com.android.systemui.ImageWallpaper (0xab117c00): 
0:13901)* (animation background stackId=1 (0xac5cac00): 0:54)* (Sprite 
(0xab116800): 0:6)* (DimLayerController/Stack=0 (0xab149000): 0:1175)* 
(NavigationBar (0xab114000): 0:967) 
(org.crosswire.bishop/org.crosswire.bishop.MainActivity (0xab14b800): 1:335) 
(org.crosswire.bishop/org.crosswire.bishop.MainActivity (0xab14a400): 0:46)-
03-04 15:46:05.705   517   570 I SFPerfTracer:  triggers: (rate: 0:1) 
(7195700 sw vsyncs) (0 skipped) (2:153172 vsyncs) (4:7393574)
03-04 15:46:06.081  1392  1719 E WifiHAL :*fetchLowiCbTableAndCapabilities: 
NULL lowi_handle, err: dlopen failed: library "/vendor/lib/liblowi_wifihal.so" 
not found*
03-04 15:46:06.081  1392  1719 E WifiHAL : getLowiCallbackTable: LOWI is not 
supported.
03-04 15:46:06.082  1392  1719 E WifiHAL : fetchLowiCbTableAndCapabilities: 
NULL lowi_handle, err: dlopen failed: library "/vendor/lib/liblowi_wifihal.so" 
not found
03-04 15:46:06.082  1392  1719 E WifiHAL : getLowiCallbackTable: LOWI is not 
supported.
03-04 15:46:06.083  1392  1719 E WifiHAL : fetchLowiCbTableAndCapabilities: 
NULL lowi_handle, err: dlopen failed: library "/vendor/lib/liblowi_wifihal.so" 
not found
03-04 15:46:06.084  1392  1719 E WifiHAL : getLowiCallbackTable: LOWI is not 
supported.
03-04 15:46:08.312   517   570 I SFPerfTracer:  triggers: (rate: 0:1) 
(7195700 sw vsyncs) (0 skipped) (2:153224 vsyncs) (4:7393678)
03-04 15:46:10.320   517   517 I SFPerfTracer:  triggers: (rate: 55:6766) 
(compose: 0:29) (post: 1:35) (render: 1:67) (1:114780 frames) (2:143175)
03-04 15:46:10.320   517   517 D SFPerfTracer:    layers: (3:7) (StatusBar 
(0xab115400): 0:27575) (com.android.systemui.ImageWallpaper (0xab117c00): 
0:13901)* (animation background stackId=1 (0xac5cac00): 0:54)* (Sprite 
(0xab116800): 0:6)* (DimLayerController/Stack=0 (0xab149000): 0:1175)* 
(NavigationBar (0xab114000): 0:967) 
(org.crosswire.bishop/org.crosswire.bishop.MainActivity (0xab14b800): 1:387)
03-04 15:46:10.902   517   570 I SFPerfTracer:  triggers: (rate: 0:1) 
(7195700 sw vsyncs) (0 skipped) 

Re: [sword-devel] Using Multiple Front-ends

[DM Smith]

As reported earlier, Bishop and And Bible use the same module location on the 
one device. If you install on one it will be available on the other. I don’t 
know if a restart is needed by the other app.

On Un*x, they are all stored at ~/.sword by default.

In Him,
DM

> On Mar 4, 2018, at 8:46 PM, bschroe...@internode.on.net wrote:
> 
> I am using Linux, Windows and Android.
> 
> What prompted it this time is that I just installed Bishop on Android, and 
> was immediately prompted to download some texts to get started.
> 
> I will try SWORD_PATH on my computers later (thank you), but for now it is 
> Android I am particularly thinking of.
> 
> Brian.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
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> 
> To:
> , "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" 
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> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Sun, 4 Mar 2018 19:40:52 -0600
> Subject:
> Re: [sword-devel] Using Multiple Front-ends
> 
> 
> By default, all the desktop apps I know about should use the same paths. On 
> phones, this probably depends greatly on which OS you're in. I don't think 
> it's possible with iOS, but it might be possible with Android. That would 
> depend on the app, though.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 7:36 PM,  > wrote:
> 
> When installing multiple front-ends on a phone or computer, how do I 
> configure them all to use the same texts?  At the moment they all want me to 
> download a separate copy for each of them.  So, for example, if I have 3 
> front-end applications and want KJV in each of them I have to download it 3 
> times and store 3 copies.
> 
> I assume there has to be a (simple) way to do this.
> 
> Brian.
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Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS / JavaScript bindings

[Gary Holmlund]

Troy,

Here is the logcat for one startup/crash. See attached file.

I have BibleTime Mobile and about 15 modules.

Gary


On 03/04/2018 03:51 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
Thanks Gary. Any more info? I only have emulators here. Anything from 
logcat? Do you have AndBible installed? Curious if maybe you have a 
specific module already installed via AndBible which might be causing 
trouble. Any more info from people having startup issues would be 
great. I'll keep trying more emulators.


Troy

On March 4, 2018 3:31:41 PM MST, Gary Holmlund 
 wrote:


I have a Galaxy S8+ and have the same crash on startup that Chris
has. It was version 1.02 and Android 7.0.

Gary


On 03/04/2018 02:13 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Hi Chris, thanks for the report on a Galaxy S8. 2 questions. Have
you tried version 1.0.2 which was released yesterday evening? It
has fixes for older phones. If yes, then can you tell me what
version of Android is on your phone?

Thank you!

Troy

On March 4, 2018 2:02:34 PM MST, Chris Umphress
 wrote:

Hey Troy,

I have a Galaxy S8 and finally installed Bishop now that it
is on the Play Store. On launch, the app shows a grey screen
and then crashes. I sent feedback with the logs, but let me
know if I can help in any way to debug this.

Chris Umphress

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 5:05 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
> wrote:

I've had 2 instances of problems running the app.  One
was a report from a user here, and another was trying to
install the app on my TV.  In both cases, the app showed
a blank gray screen after install and and startup.

I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some
point, so I'm not a very good clean test case.  Has
anyone had any luck installing and getting the basic set
of modules running? Or any problems?  Thanks for any
feedback.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop


Troy


On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote:

*_Suggestion:_*
Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop

and add these details.

Best regards,

David

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Dear team,

You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings for
SWORD for quite some time now.  We now have a simple
reader written in JavaScript which will run unchanged
on both Android and iOS.Bishop includes an InstallMgr
to auto-discover remote installation sources and let a
user install SWORD content.

I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my
favorite android (from Aliens) and almost appropriate
for a Bible app :)  I've also tacked on our boring
moniker from our Windows app, "Bishop: The SWORD
Project for Android".  Long name but should get more
search hits.

Basically, Bishop's UI has 2 basic modes:

*Reader*: which simply shows 1 chapter of up to 3
Bibles in parallel.
*Verse* *Study*: When in reader mode, as the user
scrolls, one verse will always be active, when
"Verse Study" is chosen from the menu, the user can
then drill down into that active verse.  Verse
Study has 4 tools:*
*

*Word* *Study*: shows the verse broken down
word by word, showing the original Greek or
Hebrew behind each word, along with a simple
definition.*
Commentary*: shows all installed commentary for
that verse.
*Witness* *Study*: shows all available ancient
New Testament manuscript witnesses which attest
to the current verse.
*Variant* *Study*: shows all variant between
the manuscript witnesses for the current verse.

Other features include very basic bookmarks and
search.  The Android release has an initial attempt at
BibleSync support to send your current verse out to all
your friends running Bishop on the same network (thanks
Karl!).

The initial goal of 

Re: [sword-devel] Using Multiple Front-ends

[bschroeder]

I am using Linux, Windows and Android.

What prompted it this time is that I just installed Bishop on Android,
and was immediately prompted to download some texts to get started.

I will try SWORD_PATH on my computers later (thank you), but for now
it is Android I am particularly thinking of.

Brian.

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To:, "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" 
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Subject:Re: [sword-devel] Using Multiple Front-ends

By default, all the desktop apps I know about should use the same
paths. On phones, this probably depends greatly on which OS you're in.
I don't think it's possible with iOS, but it might be possible with
Android. That would depend on the app, though.  
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 7:36 PM,  wrote:

 When installing multiple front-ends on a phone or computer, how do I
configure them all to use the same texts?  At the moment they all
want me to download a separate copy for each of them.  So, for
example, if I have 3 front-end applications and want KJV in each of
them I have to download it 3 times and store 3 copies.

 I assume there has to be a (simple) way to do this.

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Re: [sword-devel] Using Multiple Front-ends

[DM Smith]

Correction. Not SWORD_HOME but SWORD_PATH. (Thx Karl. My memory was faulty.)

> On Mar 4, 2018, at 8:41 PM, DM Smith  wrote:
> 
> Depends. iOS requires sandboxing of it’s resources. The desktop applications 
> use the standard locations which has changed over time on Windows. Older apps 
> and newer apps may not play together. I’m pretty sure that if you set 
> SWORD_HOME environment variable to the folder/directory holding mods.d and 
> modules that all will play well together. You may need to merge different 
> local repos to that new location.
> 
> In Him,
>   DM Smith
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2018, at 8:36 PM, bschroe...@internode.on.net wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> When installing multiple front-ends on a phone or computer, how do I 
>> configure them all to use the same texts?  At the moment they all want me to 
>> download a separate copy for each of them.  So, for example, if I have 3 
>> front-end applications and want KJV in each of them I have to download it 3 
>> times and store 3 copies.
>> 
>> I assume there has to be a (simple) way to do this.
>> 
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Re: [sword-devel] Using Multiple Front-ends

[DM Smith]

Depends. iOS requires sandboxing of it’s resources. The desktop applications 
use the standard locations which has changed over time on Windows. Older apps 
and newer apps may not play together. I’m pretty sure that if you set 
SWORD_HOME environment variable to the folder/directory holding mods.d and 
modules that all will play well together. You may need to merge different local 
repos to that new location.

In Him,
DM Smith

> On Mar 4, 2018, at 8:36 PM, bschroe...@internode.on.net wrote:
> 
> 
> When installing multiple front-ends on a phone or computer, how do I 
> configure them all to use the same texts?  At the moment they all want me to 
> download a separate copy for each of them.  So, for example, if I have 3 
> front-end applications and want KJV in each of them I have to download it 3 
> times and store 3 copies.
> 
> I assume there has to be a (simple) way to do this.
> 
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Re: [sword-devel] Using Multiple Front-ends

[Greg Hellings]

By default, all the desktop apps I know about should use the same paths. On
phones, this probably depends greatly on which OS you're in. I don't think
it's possible with iOS, but it might be possible with Android. That would
depend on the app, though.

On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 7:36 PM,  wrote:

>
> When installing multiple front-ends on a phone or computer, how do I
> configure them all to use the same texts?  At the moment they all want me
> to download a separate copy for each of them.  So, for example, if I have 3
> front-end applications and want KJV in each of them I have to download it 3
> times and store 3 copies.
>
> I assume there has to be a (simple) way to do this.
>
> Brian.
>
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Re: [sword-devel] Using Multiple Front-ends

[Karl Kleinpaste]

On 03/04/2018 08:36 PM, bschroe...@internode.on.net wrote:
> how do I configure them all to use the same texts?
Environment variable SWORD_PATH.
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[sword-devel] Using Multiple Front-ends

[bschroeder]

 When installing multiple front-ends on a phone or computer, how do I
configure them all to use the same texts?  At the moment they all
want me to download a separate copy for each of them.  So, for
example, if I have 3 front-end applications and want KJV in each of
them I have to download it 3 times and store 3 copies.

 I assume there has to be a (simple) way to do this.

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Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS / JavaScript bindings

[Troy A. Griffitts]

Thanks Gary. Any more info? I only have emulators here. Anything from logcat? 
Do you have AndBible installed? Curious if maybe you have a specific module 
already installed via AndBible which might be causing trouble. Any more info 
from people having startup issues would be great. I'll keep trying more 
emulators.

Troy

On March 4, 2018 3:31:41 PM MST, Gary Holmlund  wrote:
>I have a Galaxy S8+ and have the same crash on startup that Chris has. 
>It was version 1.02 and Android 7.0.
>
>Gary
>
>
>On 03/04/2018 02:13 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>> Hi Chris, thanks for the report on a Galaxy S8. 2 questions. Have you
>
>> tried version 1.0.2 which was released yesterday evening? It has
>fixes 
>> for older phones. If yes, then can you tell me what version of
>Android 
>> is on your phone?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> On March 4, 2018 2:02:34 PM MST, Chris Umphress  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Troy,
>>
>> I have a Galaxy S8 and finally installed Bishop now that it is on
>> the Play Store. On launch, the app shows a grey screen and then
>> crashes. I sent feedback with the logs, but let me know if I can
>> help in any way to debug this.
>>
>> Chris Umphress
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 5:05 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I've had 2 instances of problems running the app.  One was a
>> report from a user here, and another was trying to install
>the
>> app on my TV. In both cases, the app showed a blank gray
>> screen after install and and startup.
>>
>> I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some
>> point, so I'm not a very good clean test case.  Has anyone
>had
>> any luck installing and getting the basic set of modules
>> running? Or any problems?  Thanks for any feedback.
>>
>>
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>>
>
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote:
>>> *_Suggestion:_*
>>> Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop
>>> 
>>> and add these details.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Sent with ProtonMail  Secure Email.
>>>
>>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>>> On 1 March 2018 2:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
>>>   wrote:
>>>
 Dear team,

 You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings for
 SWORD for quite some time now.  We now have a simple reader
 written in JavaScript which will run unchanged on both
 Android and iOS.Bishop includes an InstallMgr to
 auto-discover remote installation sources and let a user
 install SWORD content.

 I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my favorite
 android (from Aliens) and almost appropriate for a Bible
>app
 :)  I've also tacked on our boring moniker from our Windows
 app, "Bishop: The SWORD Project for Android".  Long name
>but
 should get more search hits.

 Basically, Bishop's UI has 2 basic modes:

 *Reader*: which simply shows 1 chapter of up to 3
>Bibles
 in parallel.
 *Verse* *Study*: When in reader mode, as the user
 scrolls, one verse will always be active, when "Verse
 Study" is chosen from the menu, the user can then drill
 down into that active verse.  Verse Study has 4 tools:*
 *

 *Word* *Study*: shows the verse broken down word by
 word, showing the original Greek or Hebrew behind
 each word, along with a simple definition.*
 Commentary*: shows all installed commentary for
>that
 verse.
 *Witness* *Study*: shows all available ancient New
 Testament manuscript witnesses which attest to the
 current verse.
 *Variant* *Study*: shows all variant between the
 manuscript witnesses for the current verse.

 Other features include very basic bookmarks and search. 
>The
 Android release has an initial attempt at BibleSync support
 to send your current verse out to all your friends running
 Bishop on the same network (thanks Karl!).

 The initial goal of Bishop was to be the thinnest client on
 top of the bindings, as an example and thus uses no 3rd
 party libraries, save jQuery.  Now that the initial 

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS / JavaScript bindings

[Troy A. Griffitts]

Dear Michael,

Could I get you to give me even more information than your already detailed 
report? I just installed the spavbl2018eb and it worked fine for me. The 3 
Bibles I have chosen to make active, in order are ESV2011, spavbl2018eb, and 
WLC. When I choose a NT verse, I see the ESV and spa just fine, and when I 
choose an OT verse, I see the ESV and WLC.

If you plug your device into your computer via USB and run:

adb logcat

... I dump all kinds of debug to the console there.  If you can get output, 
does anything look fishy?

On March 4, 2018 2:45:05 PM MST, Michael Johnson  wrote:
>Thanks, Troy!
>
>I downloaded Bishop on an Android phone (Moto E with Android 7.1.1),
>and it worked until I tried downloading spavbl2018eb from the
>eBible.org repository. Opening that Bible resulted in the spinning
>wheel of death. I then tried engfbv2018eb, with the same result. Either
>time, I could go back to an already-downloaded translation (that was
>there with And Bible), and that worked. Downloading a new Bible from
>Crosswire Main worked. Downloading a full Bible from eBible.org
>(engRV1895eb) worked. When I tried to
>install a partial NT (engGLW1996eb), that installed, but also would not
>open (spinning wheel of death).
>
>Spin.
>Spin.
>Spin.
>Something is hanging up or in an infinite loop...
>
>On 03/03/2018 02:24 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>
>> Bishop 1.0.2 pushed out-- support for older devices.
>>
>> Found some JavaScript and CSS constructs I was using which didn't
>work well (at all) on older Android phones.  I've updated things and
>tested on Android 5.1 and iPhone 5s and seems to now work reasonably
>well.  Please let me know if you have a device which is having trouble
>or if you are successfully running on an Android release older than
>5.1.  I'd like to know how old we can go back and still support.
>>
>> Thanks everyone for your feedback and time spent having a go at this,
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> On 03/03/2018 02:53 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback Michael,
>>>
>>> I have added a new menu choice:
>>>
>>> [ Settings ]
>>>
>>>   -   Font Size  +
>>>
>>> It seems to work well on both iOS and Android.  Please let me know
>if it makes the app more usable for you.  The update should now be
>available for your phone.
>>>
>>> Thank you again for taking the time to provide valuable feedback.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/03/2018 04:05 AM, Michael H wrote:
 I already had AndBible installed. 

 Bishop installed and recognized all the modules (at least 20+
>bibles, i haven't confirmed "ALL") that AndBible has present. I haven't
>attempted any more module installs after installing Bishop, either from
>AndBible or Bishop. 

 The text is small on my Samsung Galaxy On5. Not horribly unreadably
>small, but small for me to use for any length of time. I don't see
>settings to adjust that, so I haven't spent much time on it. I can and
>will test more if you have something specific.. But this isn't ready
>for my eyes yet. Very promising tho. :-) Based on the images in the
>store screen, I would be using it more if the text had size
>adjustment. 


 On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Troy A. Griffitts
>> wrote:

 I've had 2 instances of problems running the app.  One was a
>report from a user here, and another was trying to install the app on
>my TV.  In both cases, the app showed a blank gray screen after install
>and and startup.

 I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some point,
>so I'm not a very good clean test case.  Has anyone had any luck
>installing and getting the basic set of modules running? Or any
>problems?  Thanks for any feedback.


>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>

 Troy


 On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote:
> *_Suggestion:_*
> Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop
>
> and add these details.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
> Sent with ProtonMail  Secure Email.
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On 1 March 2018 2:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
>  wrote:
>
>> Dear team,
>>
>> You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings for SWORD
>for quite some time now.  We now have a simple reader written in
>JavaScript which will run unchanged on both Android and iOS.Bishop
>includes an InstallMgr to auto-discover remote installation sources and
>let a user install SWORD content.
>>
>> I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my favorite
>android (from Aliens) and almost appropriate for a Bible app :)  I've
>also tacked on our boring 

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS / JavaScript bindings

[Gary Holmlund]

I have a Galaxy S8+ and have the same crash on startup that Chris has. 
It was version 1.02 and Android 7.0.


Gary


On 03/04/2018 02:13 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
Hi Chris, thanks for the report on a Galaxy S8. 2 questions. Have you 
tried version 1.0.2 which was released yesterday evening? It has fixes 
for older phones. If yes, then can you tell me what version of Android 
is on your phone?


Thank you!

Troy

On March 4, 2018 2:02:34 PM MST, Chris Umphress  
wrote:


Hey Troy,

I have a Galaxy S8 and finally installed Bishop now that it is on
the Play Store. On launch, the app shows a grey screen and then
crashes. I sent feedback with the logs, but let me know if I can
help in any way to debug this.

Chris Umphress

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 5:05 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
> wrote:

I've had 2 instances of problems running the app.  One was a
report from a user here, and another was trying to install the
app on my TV. In both cases, the app showed a blank gray
screen after install and and startup.

I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some
point, so I'm not a very good clean test case.  Has anyone had
any luck installing and getting the basic set of modules
running? Or any problems?  Thanks for any feedback.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop


Troy


On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote:

*_Suggestion:_*
Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop

and add these details.

Best regards,

David

Sent with ProtonMail  Secure Email.

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On 1 March 2018 2:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
  wrote:


Dear team,

You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings for
SWORD for quite some time now.  We now have a simple reader
written in JavaScript which will run unchanged on both
Android and iOS.Bishop includes an InstallMgr to
auto-discover remote installation sources and let a user
install SWORD content.

I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my favorite
android (from Aliens) and almost appropriate for a Bible app
:)  I've also tacked on our boring moniker from our Windows
app, "Bishop: The SWORD Project for Android".  Long name but
should get more search hits.

Basically, Bishop's UI has 2 basic modes:

*Reader*: which simply shows 1 chapter of up to 3 Bibles
in parallel.
*Verse* *Study*: When in reader mode, as the user
scrolls, one verse will always be active, when "Verse
Study" is chosen from the menu, the user can then drill
down into that active verse.  Verse Study has 4 tools:*
*

*Word* *Study*: shows the verse broken down word by
word, showing the original Greek or Hebrew behind
each word, along with a simple definition.*
Commentary*: shows all installed commentary for that
verse.
*Witness* *Study*: shows all available ancient New
Testament manuscript witnesses which attest to the
current verse.
*Variant* *Study*: shows all variant between the
manuscript witnesses for the current verse.

Other features include very basic bookmarks and search.  The
Android release has an initial attempt at BibleSync support
to send your current verse out to all your friends running
Bishop on the same network (thanks Karl!).

The initial goal of Bishop was to be the thinnest client on
top of the bindings, as an example and thus uses no 3rd
party libraries, save jQuery.  Now that the initial release
is completed and can serve as an example, we're free to
improve the mobile user interface if anyone feels called to
join the team and give it a shot.

Installation locations follow.  It's best to let Bishop
install its basic set of SWORD modules upon first run, so it
has a minimal set of tools it can use to operate.  It will
prompt you to do this when you first launch the application
and it finds no modules installed.

Android users can install the app from:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop


iPhone users will need to send me their UDID for testing
while we try to get 

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS / JavaScript bindings

[Troy A. Griffitts]

Great feedback Michael. The starter pack which is offered if Bishop doesn't see 
any modules installed includes KJV, WHNU, WLC, StrongsGreek and StrongsHebrew. 
The WHNU and WLC are both partial Bibles. I'll give the spavbl2018eb a go and 
see what I find. Thank you for taking the time to test and report. Would love 
to be sure Bishop works for your huge library of Bibles. 

Troy

On March 4, 2018 2:45:05 PM MST, Michael Johnson  wrote:
>Thanks, Troy!
>
>I downloaded Bishop on an Android phone (Moto E with Android 7.1.1),
>and it worked until I tried downloading spavbl2018eb from the
>eBible.org repository. Opening that Bible resulted in the spinning
>wheel of death. I then tried engfbv2018eb, with the same result. Either
>time, I could go back to an already-downloaded translation (that was
>there with And Bible), and that worked. Downloading a new Bible from
>Crosswire Main worked. Downloading a full Bible from eBible.org
>(engRV1895eb) worked. When I tried to
>install a partial NT (engGLW1996eb), that installed, but also would not
>open (spinning wheel of death).
>
>Spin.
>Spin.
>Spin.
>Something is hanging up or in an infinite loop...
>
>On 03/03/2018 02:24 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>
>> Bishop 1.0.2 pushed out-- support for older devices.
>>
>> Found some JavaScript and CSS constructs I was using which didn't
>work well (at all) on older Android phones.  I've updated things and
>tested on Android 5.1 and iPhone 5s and seems to now work reasonably
>well.  Please let me know if you have a device which is having trouble
>or if you are successfully running on an Android release older than
>5.1.  I'd like to know how old we can go back and still support.
>>
>> Thanks everyone for your feedback and time spent having a go at this,
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> On 03/03/2018 02:53 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback Michael,
>>>
>>> I have added a new menu choice:
>>>
>>> [ Settings ]
>>>
>>>   -   Font Size  +
>>>
>>> It seems to work well on both iOS and Android.  Please let me know
>if it makes the app more usable for you.  The update should now be
>available for your phone.
>>>
>>> Thank you again for taking the time to provide valuable feedback.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/03/2018 04:05 AM, Michael H wrote:
 I already had AndBible installed. 

 Bishop installed and recognized all the modules (at least 20+
>bibles, i haven't confirmed "ALL") that AndBible has present. I haven't
>attempted any more module installs after installing Bishop, either from
>AndBible or Bishop. 

 The text is small on my Samsung Galaxy On5. Not horribly unreadably
>small, but small for me to use for any length of time. I don't see
>settings to adjust that, so I haven't spent much time on it. I can and
>will test more if you have something specific.. But this isn't ready
>for my eyes yet. Very promising tho. :-) Based on the images in the
>store screen, I would be using it more if the text had size
>adjustment. 


 On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Troy A. Griffitts
>> wrote:

 I've had 2 instances of problems running the app.  One was a
>report from a user here, and another was trying to install the app on
>my TV.  In both cases, the app showed a blank gray screen after install
>and and startup.

 I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some point,
>so I'm not a very good clean test case.  Has anyone had any luck
>installing and getting the basic set of modules running? Or any
>problems?  Thanks for any feedback.


>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>

 Troy


 On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote:
> *_Suggestion:_*
> Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop
>
> and add these details.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
> Sent with ProtonMail  Secure Email.
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On 1 March 2018 2:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
>  wrote:
>
>> Dear team,
>>
>> You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings for SWORD
>for quite some time now.  We now have a simple reader written in
>JavaScript which will run unchanged on both Android and iOS.Bishop
>includes an InstallMgr to auto-discover remote installation sources and
>let a user install SWORD content.
>>
>> I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my favorite
>android (from Aliens) and almost appropriate for a Bible app :)  I've
>also tacked on our boring moniker from our Windows app, "Bishop: The
>SWORD Project for Android".  Long name but should get more search hits.
>>
>> Basically, Bishop's UI has 

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS / JavaScript bindings

[Troy A. Griffitts]

Hi Chris, thanks for the report on a Galaxy S8. 2 questions. Have you tried 
version 1.0.2 which was released yesterday evening? It has fixes for older 
phones. If yes, then can you tell me what version of Android is on your phone?

Thank you!

Troy

On March 4, 2018 2:02:34 PM MST, Chris Umphress  wrote:
>Hey Troy,
>
>I have a Galaxy S8 and finally installed Bishop now that it is on the
>Play
>Store. On launch, the app shows a grey screen and then crashes. I sent
>feedback with the logs, but let me know if I can help in any way to
>debug
>this.
>
>Chris Umphress
>
>On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 5:05 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
>
>wrote:
>
>> I've had 2 instances of problems running the app.  One was a report
>from a
>> user here, and another was trying to install the app on my TV.  In
>both
>> cases, the app showed a blank gray screen after install and and
>startup.
>>
>> I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some point, so
>I'm not
>> a very good clean test case.  Has anyone had any luck installing and
>> getting the basic set of modules running? Or any problems?  Thanks
>for any
>> feedback.
>>
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote:
>>
>> *Suggestion:*
>> Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop
>> and add these details.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent with ProtonMail  Secure Email.
>>
>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>> On 1 March 2018 2:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Dear team,
>>
>> You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings for SWORD for
>quite
>> some time now.  We now have a simple reader written in JavaScript
>which
>> will run unchanged on both Android and iOS.Bishop includes an
>InstallMgr to
>> auto-discover remote installation sources and let a user install
>SWORD
>> content.
>>
>> I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my favorite android
>(from
>> Aliens) and almost appropriate for a Bible app :)  I've also tacked
>on our
>> boring moniker from our Windows app, "Bishop: The SWORD Project for
>> Android".  Long name but should get more search hits.
>> Basically, Bishop's UI has 2 basic modes:
>>
>> *Reader*: which simply shows 1 chapter of up to 3 Bibles in parallel.
>> *Verse* *Study*: When in reader mode, as the user scrolls, one verse
>will
>> always be active, when "Verse Study" is chosen from the menu, the
>user can
>> then drill down into that active verse.  Verse Study has 4 tools:
>>
>> *Word* *Study*: shows the verse broken down word by word, showing the
>> original Greek or Hebrew behind each word, along with a simple
>definition.
>> * Commentary*: shows all installed commentary for that verse.
>> *Witness* *Study*: shows all available ancient New Testament
>manuscript
>> witnesses which attest to the current verse.
>> *Variant* *Study*: shows all variant between the manuscript witnesses
>for
>> the current verse.
>>
>> Other features include very basic bookmarks and search.  The Android
>> release has an initial attempt at BibleSync support to send your
>current
>> verse out to all your friends running Bishop on the same network
>(thanks
>> Karl!).
>>
>> The initial goal of Bishop was to be the thinnest client on top of
>the
>> bindings, as an example and thus uses no 3rd party libraries, save
>jQuery.
>> Now that the initial release is completed and can serve as an
>example,
>> we're free to improve the mobile user interface if anyone feels
>called to
>> join the team and give it a shot.
>>
>> Installation locations follow.  It's best to let Bishop install its
>basic
>> set of SWORD modules upon first run, so it has a minimal set of tools
>it
>> can use to operate.  It will prompt you to do this when you first
>launch
>> the application and it finds no modules installed.
>>
>> Android users can install the app from:
>>
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>>
>> iPhone users will need to send me their UDID for testing while we try
>to
>> get through the Apple Store approval process.  I haven't even tried
>yet as
>> I don't have much hope that it is "pretty" enough for them, but the
>> download link for the iPhone binary is here:
>>
>> https://crosswire.org/bishop/manifest.plist
>>
>> https://crosswire.org/bishop.ipa
>>
>> The code can be had from:
>>
>> http://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop
>>
>> Please let us know what you think if you are a user, and offer your
>> suggestions from a usability perspective.
>>
>> If you are a developer, please offer comments and suggest features
>you
>> have a desire and are willing to add.
>>
>> Please give us a great rating so we show up in a search in the Play
>Store
>> and let others know.  I think we have some unique feature that other
>app
>> don't offer and I've been using Bishop as my morning reader for a
>while
>> now.  The default fullscreen text 

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS / JavaScript bindings

[Michael Johnson]

Thanks, Troy!

I downloaded Bishop on an Android phone (Moto E with Android 7.1.1), and it 
worked until I tried downloading spavbl2018eb from the eBible.org repository. 
Opening that Bible resulted in the spinning wheel of death. I then tried 
engfbv2018eb, with the same result. Either time, I could go back to an 
already-downloaded translation (that was there with And Bible), and that 
worked. Downloading a new Bible from Crosswire Main worked. Downloading a full 
Bible from eBible.org (engRV1895eb) worked. When I tried to
install a partial NT (engGLW1996eb), that installed, but also would not open 
(spinning wheel of death).

Spin.
Spin.
Spin.
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On 03/03/2018 02:24 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>
> Bishop 1.0.2 pushed out-- support for older devices.
>
> Found some JavaScript and CSS constructs I was using which didn't work well 
> (at all) on older Android phones.  I've updated things and tested on Android 
> 5.1 and iPhone 5s and seems to now work reasonably well.  Please let me know 
> if you have a device which is having trouble or if you are successfully 
> running on an Android release older than 5.1.  I'd like to know how old we 
> can go back and still support.
>
> Thanks everyone for your feedback and time spent having a go at this,
>
> Troy
>
>
> On 03/03/2018 02:53 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback Michael,
>>
>> I have added a new menu choice:
>>
>> [ Settings ]
>>
>>   -   Font Size  +
>>
>> It seems to work well on both iOS and Android.  Please let me know if it 
>> makes the app more usable for you.  The update should now be available for 
>> your phone.
>>
>> Thank you again for taking the time to provide valuable feedback.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/03/2018 04:05 AM, Michael H wrote:
>>> I already had AndBible installed. 
>>>
>>> Bishop installed and recognized all the modules (at least 20+ bibles, i 
>>> haven't confirmed "ALL") that AndBible has present. I haven't attempted any 
>>> more module installs after installing Bishop, either from AndBible or 
>>> Bishop. 
>>>
>>> The text is small on my Samsung Galaxy On5. Not horribly unreadably small, 
>>> but small for me to use for any length of time. I don't see settings to 
>>> adjust that, so I haven't spent much time on it. I can and will test more 
>>> if you have something specific.. But this isn't ready for my eyes yet. Very 
>>> promising tho. :-) Based on the images in the store screen, I would be 
>>> using it more if the text had size adjustment. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Troy A. Griffitts >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I've had 2 instances of problems running the app.  One was a report 
>>> from a user here, and another was trying to install the app on my TV.  In 
>>> both cases, the app showed a blank gray screen after install and and 
>>> startup.
>>>
>>> I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some point, so I'm 
>>> not a very good clean test case.  Has anyone had any luck installing and 
>>> getting the basic set of modules running? Or any problems?  Thanks for any 
>>> feedback.
>>>
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote:
 *_Suggestion:_*
 Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop 
 
 and add these details.

 Best regards,

 David

 Sent with ProtonMail  Secure Email.

 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
 On 1 March 2018 2:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts  
  wrote:

> Dear team,
>
> You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings for SWORD for 
> quite some time now.  We now have a simple reader written in JavaScript 
> which will run unchanged on both Android and iOS.Bishop includes an 
> InstallMgr to auto-discover remote installation sources and let a user 
> install SWORD content.
>
> I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my favorite android 
> (from Aliens) and almost appropriate for a Bible app :)  I've also tacked 
> on our boring moniker from our Windows app, "Bishop: The SWORD Project 
> for Android".  Long name but should get more search hits.
>
> Basically, Bishop's UI has 2 basic modes:
>
> *Reader*: which simply shows 1 chapter of up to 3 Bibles in 
> parallel.
> *Verse* *Study*: When in reader mode, as the user scrolls, one 
> verse will always be active, when "Verse Study" is chosen from the menu, 
> the user can then drill down into that active verse.  Verse Study has 4 
> tools:*
> *
>
> *Word* 

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS / JavaScript bindings

[Chris Umphress]

Hey Troy,

I have a Galaxy S8 and finally installed Bishop now that it is on the Play
Store. On launch, the app shows a grey screen and then crashes. I sent
feedback with the logs, but let me know if I can help in any way to debug
this.

Chris Umphress

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 5:05 AM, Troy A. Griffitts 
wrote:

> I've had 2 instances of problems running the app.  One was a report from a
> user here, and another was trying to install the app on my TV.  In both
> cases, the app showed a blank gray screen after install and and startup.
>
> I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some point, so I'm not
> a very good clean test case.  Has anyone had any luck installing and
> getting the basic set of modules running? Or any problems?  Thanks for any
> feedback.
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>
> Troy
>
> On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote:
>
> *Suggestion:*
> Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop
> and add these details.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
> Sent with ProtonMail  Secure Email.
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On 1 March 2018 2:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts 
>  wrote:
>
> Dear team,
>
> You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings for SWORD for quite
> some time now.  We now have a simple reader written in JavaScript which
> will run unchanged on both Android and iOS.Bishop includes an InstallMgr to
> auto-discover remote installation sources and let a user install SWORD
> content.
>
> I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my favorite android (from
> Aliens) and almost appropriate for a Bible app :)  I've also tacked on our
> boring moniker from our Windows app, "Bishop: The SWORD Project for
> Android".  Long name but should get more search hits.
> Basically, Bishop's UI has 2 basic modes:
>
> *Reader*: which simply shows 1 chapter of up to 3 Bibles in parallel.
> *Verse* *Study*: When in reader mode, as the user scrolls, one verse will
> always be active, when "Verse Study" is chosen from the menu, the user can
> then drill down into that active verse.  Verse Study has 4 tools:
>
> *Word* *Study*: shows the verse broken down word by word, showing the
> original Greek or Hebrew behind each word, along with a simple definition.
> * Commentary*: shows all installed commentary for that verse.
> *Witness* *Study*: shows all available ancient New Testament manuscript
> witnesses which attest to the current verse.
> *Variant* *Study*: shows all variant between the manuscript witnesses for
> the current verse.
>
> Other features include very basic bookmarks and search.  The Android
> release has an initial attempt at BibleSync support to send your current
> verse out to all your friends running Bishop on the same network (thanks
> Karl!).
>
> The initial goal of Bishop was to be the thinnest client on top of the
> bindings, as an example and thus uses no 3rd party libraries, save jQuery.
> Now that the initial release is completed and can serve as an example,
> we're free to improve the mobile user interface if anyone feels called to
> join the team and give it a shot.
>
> Installation locations follow.  It's best to let Bishop install its basic
> set of SWORD modules upon first run, so it has a minimal set of tools it
> can use to operate.  It will prompt you to do this when you first launch
> the application and it finds no modules installed.
>
> Android users can install the app from:
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>
> iPhone users will need to send me their UDID for testing while we try to
> get through the Apple Store approval process.  I haven't even tried yet as
> I don't have much hope that it is "pretty" enough for them, but the
> download link for the iPhone binary is here:
>
> https://crosswire.org/bishop/manifest.plist
>
> https://crosswire.org/bishop.ipa
>
> The code can be had from:
>
> http://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop
>
> Please let us know what you think if you are a user, and offer your
> suggestions from a usability perspective.
>
> If you are a developer, please offer comments and suggest features you
> have a desire and are willing to add.
>
> Please give us a great rating so we show up in a search in the Play Store
> and let others know.  I think we have some unique feature that other app
> don't offer and I've been using Bishop as my morning reader for a while
> now.  The default fullscreen text without clutter is pleasant.
>
> Christ's best for you!
>
> Troy
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS / JavaScript bindings

[Manfred Bergmann]

TestFlight not an option to make it installable for testers?



Manfred


> Am 04.03.2018 um 16:36 schrieb DM Smith :
> 
> David,
> I’ve installed it on my iPhone 6. Will do my iPad 2 later today.
> 
> I don’t think the iOS app store supports 32-bit only any more, but they might 
> allow dual 32/64. I have an old iPhone 5 on which I can test. I don’t have a 
> 32-bit iPad like yours.
> 
> It’s not something you’ll be willing to do. I’m describing the process that I 
> went through in case others are interested.
> 
> To install it, you need to be running MacOS. This is possible to do in a VM 
> on Windows or Linux. I think that’s what Troy does. I have a Mac, so it isn’t 
> a difficulty for me.
> 
> Within MacOS you have to install XCode from the Mac App Store and in XCode 
> open Window->Devices and Simulators with your iOS device attached to your 
> “Mac". Make the window wide enough to see the entire device “Identifier”. 
> Right click on that, select copy and send that to Troy.
> 
> Troy will have to add that to the list of authorized devices and rebuild 
> Bishop.ipa.
> 
> Download that ipa and in the same window, click + under INSTALLED APPS, 
> navigate to that download and “Open” it. This will install it to your device.
> 
> Later, I think it’ll be possible to build from source in XCode.
> 
> DM
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2018, at 3:26 AM, David Haslam  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Troy,
>> 
>> I've been ignoring Bishop on the grounds that I'd only ever seen it 
>> described as being an Android OS app.
>> 
>> This is the first time I've seen it mentioned in connection with iOS devices.
>> 
>> My devices are iPhone 5 and iPad Mini. My wife has an iPhone 5S and iPad 
>> Mini.
>> 
>> Even so, unless it's in the Apple iStore, only users who jailbreak could 
>> install it?  AFAICT, it's not there.
>> 
>> btw.  Is it a 64-bit app ?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 21:53, Troy A. Griffitts  wrote:
>>> Thanks for the feedback Michael,
>>> 
>>> I have added a new menu choice:
>>> 
>>> [ Settings ]
>>> 
>>>   -   Font Size  +
>>> 
>>> It seems to work well on both iOS and Android.  Please let me know if it 
>>> makes the app more usable for you.  The update should now be available for 
>>> your phone.
>>> 
>>> Thank you again for taking the time to provide valuable feedback.
>>> 
>>> Troy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 03/03/2018 04:05 AM, Michael H wrote: 
 I already had AndBible installed.  
 
 Bishop installed and recognized all the modules (at least 20+ bibles, i 
 haven't confirmed "ALL") that AndBible has present. I haven't attempted 
 any more module installs after installing Bishop, either from AndBible or 
 Bishop. 
 
 The text is small on my Samsung Galaxy On5. Not horribly unreadably small, 
 but small for me to use for any length of time. I don't see settings to 
 adjust that, so I haven't spent much time on it. I can and will test more 
 if you have something specific.. But this isn't ready for my eyes yet. 
 Very promising tho. :-) Based on the images in the store screen, I would 
 be using it more if the text had size adjustment.  
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Troy A. Griffitts  
 wrote: 
 I've had 2 instances of problems running the app.  One was a report from a 
 user here, and another was trying to install the app on my TV.  In both 
 cases, the app showed a blank gray screen after install and and startup.
 
 I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some point, so I'm not 
 a very good clean test case.  Has anyone had any luck installing and 
 getting the basic set of modules running? Or any problems?  Thanks for any 
 feedback.
 
 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
 
 Troy
 
 On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote: 
> Suggestion: 
> Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop 
> and add these details. 
> 
> Best regards, 
> 
> David 
> 
> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. 
> 
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ 
> On 1 March 2018 2:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts  wrote: 
> 
>> Dear team, 
>> You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings for SWORD for quite 
>> some time now.  We now have a simple reader written in JavaScript which 
>> will run unchanged on both Android and iOS.Bishop includes an InstallMgr 
>> to auto-discover remote installation sources and let a user install 
>> SWORD content. 
>> I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my favorite android (from 
>> Aliens) and almost appropriate for a Bible app :)  I've also tacked on 
>> our boring moniker from our Windows app, "Bishop: The SWORD Project for 
>> Android".  Long name but should get more 

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS / JavaScript bindings

[DM Smith]

David,
I’ve installed it on my iPhone 6. Will do my iPad 2 later today.

I don’t think the iOS app store supports 32-bit only any more, but they might 
allow dual 32/64. I have an old iPhone 5 on which I can test. I don’t have a 
32-bit iPad like yours.

It’s not something you’ll be willing to do. I’m describing the process that I 
went through in case others are interested.

To install it, you need to be running MacOS. This is possible to do in a VM on 
Windows or Linux. I think that’s what Troy does. I have a Mac, so it isn’t a 
difficulty for me.

Within MacOS you have to install XCode from the Mac App Store and in XCode open 
Window->Devices and Simulators with your iOS device attached to your “Mac". 
Make the window wide enough to see the entire device “Identifier”. Right click 
on that, select copy and send that to Troy.

Troy will have to add that to the list of authorized devices and rebuild 
Bishop.ipa.

Download that ipa and in the same window, click + under INSTALLED APPS, 
navigate to that download and “Open” it. This will install it to your device.

Later, I think it’ll be possible to build from source in XCode.

DM

> On Mar 4, 2018, at 3:26 AM, David Haslam  wrote:
> 
> Hi Troy,
> 
> I've been ignoring Bishop on the grounds that I'd only ever seen it described 
> as being an Android OS app.
> 
> This is the first time I've seen it mentioned in connection with iOS devices.
> 
> My devices are iPhone 5 and iPad Mini. My wife has an iPhone 5S and iPad Mini.
> 
> Even so, unless it's in the Apple iStore, only users who jailbreak could 
> install it?  AFAICT, it's not there.
> 
> btw.  Is it a 64-bit app ?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> David
> 
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 21:53, Troy A. Griffitts  > wrote:
>> Thanks for the feedback Michael,
>> 
>> I have added a new menu choice:
>> 
>> [ Settings ]
>> 
>>   -   Font Size  +
>> 
>> It seems to work well on both iOS and Android.  Please let me know if it 
>> makes the app more usable for you.  The update should now be available for 
>> your phone.
>> 
>> Thank you again for taking the time to provide valuable feedback.
>> 
>> Troy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 03/03/2018 04:05 AM, Michael H wrote: 
>>> I already had AndBible installed.  
>>> 
>>> Bishop installed and recognized all the modules (at least 20+ bibles, i 
>>> haven't confirmed "ALL") that AndBible has present. I haven't attempted any 
>>> more module installs after installing Bishop, either from AndBible or 
>>> Bishop. 
>>> 
>>> The text is small on my Samsung Galaxy On5. Not horribly unreadably small, 
>>> but small for me to use for any length of time. I don't see settings to 
>>> adjust that, so I haven't spent much time on it. I can and will test more 
>>> if you have something specific.. But this isn't ready for my eyes yet. Very 
>>> promising tho. :-) Based on the images in the store screen, I would be 
>>> using it more if the text had size adjustment.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Troy A. Griffitts >> > wrote: 
>>> I've had 2 instances of problems running the app.  One was a report from a 
>>> user here, and another was trying to install the app on my TV.  In both 
>>> cases, the app showed a blank gray screen after install and and startup.
>>> 
>>> I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some point, so I'm not 
>>> a very good clean test case.  Has anyone had any luck installing and 
>>> getting the basic set of modules running? Or any problems?  Thanks for any 
>>> feedback.
>>> 
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop 
>>> 
>>> Troy
>>> 
>>> On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote: 
 Suggestion: 
 Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop 
  
 and add these details. 
 
 Best regards, 
 
 David 
 
 Sent with ProtonMail  Secure Email. 
 
 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ 
 On 1 March 2018 2:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts  
  wrote: 
 
> Dear team, 
> You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings for SWORD for quite 
> some time now.  We now have a simple reader written in JavaScript which 
> will run unchanged on both Android and iOS.Bishop includes an InstallMgr 
> to auto-discover remote installation sources and let a user install SWORD 
> content. 
> I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my favorite android (from 
> Aliens) and almost appropriate for a Bible app :)  I've also tacked on 
> our boring moniker from our Windows app, "Bishop: The SWORD Project for 
> Android".  Long name but should get more search hits. 
> Basically, Bishop's UI has 2 basic 

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS / JavaScript bindings

[David Haslam]

Hi Troy,

I've been ignoring Bishop on the grounds that I'd only ever seen it described 
as being an Android OS app.

This is the first time I've seen it mentioned in connection with iOS devices.

My devices are iPhone 5 and iPad Mini. My wife has an iPhone 5S and iPad Mini.

Even so, unless it's in the Apple iStore, only users who jailbreak could 
install it?  AFAICT, it's not there.

btw.  Is it a 64-bit app ?

Best regards,

David

Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 21:53, Troy A. Griffitts  wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback Michael,
>
> I have added a new menu choice:
>
> [ Settings ]
>
>   -   Font Size  +
>
> It seems to work well on both iOS and Android.  Please let me know if it 
> makes the app more usable for you.  The update should now be available for 
> your phone.
>
> Thank you again for taking the time to provide valuable feedback.
>
> Troy
>
> On 03/03/2018 04:05 AM, Michael H wrote:
>
>> I already had AndBible installed.
>>
>> Bishop installed and recognized all the modules (at least 20+ bibles, i 
>> haven't confirmed "ALL") that AndBible has present. I haven't attempted any 
>> more module installs after installing Bishop, either from AndBible or Bishop.
>>
>> The text is small on my Samsung Galaxy On5. Not horribly unreadably small, 
>> but small for me to use for any length of time. I don't see settings to 
>> adjust that, so I haven't spent much time on it. I can and will test more if 
>> you have something specific.. But this isn't ready for my eyes yet. Very 
>> promising tho. :-) Based on the images in the store screen, I would be using 
>> it more if the text had size adjustment.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Troy A. Griffitts  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've had 2 instances of problems running the app.  One was a report from a 
>>> user here, and another was trying to install the app on my TV.  In both 
>>> cases, the app showed a blank gray screen after install and and startup.
>>>
>>> I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some point, so I'm not 
>>> a very good clean test case.  Has anyone had any luck installing and 
>>> getting the basic set of modules running? Or any problems?  Thanks for any 
>>> feedback.
>>>
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>> On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote:
>>>
 Suggestion:
 Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop
 and add these details.

 Best regards,

 David

 Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
 On 1 March 2018 2:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts 
 [](mailto:scr...@crosswire.org) wrote:

> Dear team,
>
> You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings for SWORD for quite 
> some time now.  We now have a simple reader written in JavaScript which 
> will run unchanged on both Android and iOS.Bishop includes an InstallMgr 
> to auto-discover remote installation sources and let a user install SWORD 
> content.
>
> I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my favorite android (from 
> Aliens) and almost appropriate for a Bible app :)  I've also tacked on 
> our boring moniker from our Windows app, "Bishop: The SWORD Project for 
> Android".  Long name but should get more search hits.
>
> Basically, Bishop's UI has 2 basic modes:
>
>> Reader: which simply shows 1 chapter of up to 3 Bibles in parallel.
>> Verse Study: When in reader mode, as the user scrolls, one verse will 
>> always be active, when "Verse Study" is chosen from the menu, the user 
>> can then drill down into that active verse.  Verse Study has 4 tools:
>>
>>> Word Study: shows the verse broken down word by word, showing the 
>>> original Greek or Hebrew behind each word, along with a simple 
>>> definition.
>>> Commentary: shows all installed commentary for that verse.
>>> Witness Study: shows all available ancient New Testament manuscript 
>>> witnesses which attest to the current verse.
>>> Variant Study: shows all variant between the manuscript witnesses for 
>>> the current verse.
>
> Other features include very basic bookmarks and search.  The Android 
> release has an initial attempt at BibleSync support to send your current 
> verse out to all your friends running Bishop on the same network (thanks 
> Karl!).
>
> The initial goal of Bishop was to be the thinnest client on top of the 
> bindings, as an example and thus uses no 3rd party libraries, save 
> jQuery.  Now that the initial release is completed and can serve as an 
> example, we're free to improve the mobile user interface if anyone feels 
> called to join the team and give it a shot.
>
> Installation locations follow.  It's best to let Bishop install its basic 
>