Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread David Haslam
So please explain how it got the correct language key ...

After all, it’s found correctly in the English branch of the Biblical texts 
category.

If LCSH came from the OSIS file, from where did the lang key derive?

David

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On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 18:23, ref...@gmx.net  wrote:

> The conf files people create are largely ignored by the scripts and are 
> getting rebuild from the content of an offered OSIS file. Your OSIS file has 
> xml:lang=la and all other Latin stuff stems from there.
>
> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
> From: Cyrille
> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
> CC:
>
>> Il 06/05/2019 18:35, David Haslam ha scritto:
>>
>>> LCSH=Bible.Latin
>>>
>>> Is the wrong key.
>>
>> On gitlab I have : LCSH=Bible. English.
>>
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>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 17:28, Cyrille  wrote:
>>>
 Il 06/05/2019 18:12, Peter von Kaehne ha scritto:
> On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 14:57 +, David Haslam wrote:
>> It does not appear in the Latin branch of the Biblical Texts category
>> when viewed from PocketSword.
>>
>> Where did you find the CPDV with such a configuration key?
>>
>> Or is it the case that there is more than one Lang= ?
> The "Latin" was the fault of the source file - please check in GitLab
> and correct it there. My conf making script relies on the language
> setting in the OSIS file. If that is incorrect of course it will be
> incorrect in the module too. I have for now corrected it by hand, but
> it would be good to have right in our public module source too.
 In gitlab lang=en not latin
>
> Peter
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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread ref...@gmx.net
The conf files people create are largely ignored by the scripts and are getting rebuild from the content of an offered OSIS file. Your OSIS file has xml:lang=la and all other Latin stuff stems from there. Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects. Original Message Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDVFrom: Cyrille To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum CC: 
  
  


Il 06/05/2019 18:35, David Haslam ha
  scritto:


  
  LCSH=Bible.Latin
  
  
  Is the wrong key. 
  

On gitlab I have : LCSH=Bible. English.

  
  
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  On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 17:28, Cyrille  wrote:
   

Il 06/05/2019 18:12, Peter von Kaehne ha scritto:
> On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 14:57 +, David Haslam wrote:
>> It does not appear in the Latin branch of the Biblical
Texts category
>> when viewed from PocketSword.
>>
>> Where did you find the CPDV with such a configuration
key?
>>
>> Or is it the case that there is more than one Lang= ?
> The "Latin" was the fault of the source file - please check
in GitLab
> and correct it there. My conf making script relies on the
language
> setting in the OSIS file. If that is incorrect of course it
will be
> incorrect in the module too. I have for now corrected it by
hand, but
> it would be good to have right in our public module source
too.
In gitlab lang=en not latin
>
> Peter
>
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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread Cyrille


Il 06/05/2019 18:35, David Haslam ha scritto:
> LCSH=Bible.Latin
>
> Is the wrong key.
On gitlab I have : |LCSH=Bible. English.|
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 17:28, Cyrille  > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Il 06/05/2019 18:12, Peter von Kaehne ha scritto:
>> > On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 14:57 +, David Haslam wrote:
>> >> It does not appear in the Latin branch of the Biblical Texts category
>> >> when viewed from PocketSword.
>> >>
>> >> Where did you find the CPDV with such a configuration key?
>> >>
>> >> Or is it the case that there is more than one Lang= ?
>> > The "Latin" was the fault of the source file - please check in GitLab
>> > and correct it there. My conf making script relies on the language
>> > setting in the OSIS file. If that is incorrect of course it will be
>> > incorrect in the module too. I have for now corrected it by hand, but
>> > it would be good to have right in our public module source too.
>> In gitlab lang=en not latin
>> >
>> > Peter
>> >
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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread David Haslam
LCSH=Bible.Latin

Is the wrong key.

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On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 17:28, Cyrille  wrote:

> Il 06/05/2019 18:12, Peter von Kaehne ha scritto:
>> On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 14:57 +, David Haslam wrote:
>>> It does not appear in the Latin branch of the Biblical Texts category
>>> when viewed from PocketSword.
>>>
>>> Where did you find the CPDV with such a configuration key?
>>>
>>> Or is it the case that there is more than one Lang= ?
>> The "Latin" was the fault of the source file - please check in GitLab
>> and correct it there. My conf making script relies on the language
>> setting in the OSIS file. If that is incorrect of course it will be
>> incorrect in the module too. I have for now corrected it by hand, but
>> it would be good to have right in our public module source too.
> In gitlab lang=en not latin
>>
>> Peter
>>
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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread Cyrille



Il 06/05/2019 18:12, Peter von Kaehne ha scritto:
> On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 14:57 +, David Haslam wrote:
>> It does not appear in the Latin branch of the Biblical Texts category
>> when viewed from PocketSword.
>>
>> Where did you find the CPDV with such a configuration key?
>>
>> Or is it the case that there is more than one Lang= ?
> The "Latin" was the fault of the source file - please check in GitLab
> and correct it there. My conf making script relies on the language
> setting in the OSIS file. If that is incorrect of course it will be
> incorrect in the module too. I have for now corrected it by hand, but
> it would be good to have right in our public module source too.
In gitlab lang=en not latin
>
> Peter
>
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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 14:57 +, David Haslam wrote:
> It does not appear in the Latin branch of the Biblical Texts category
> when viewed from PocketSword.
>
> Where did you find the CPDV with such a configuration key?
>
> Or is it the case that there is more than one Lang= ?

The "Latin" was the fault of the source file - please check in GitLab
and correct it there. My conf making script relies on the language
setting in the OSIS file. If that is incorrect of course it will be
incorrect in the module too. I have for now corrected it by hand, but
it would be good to have right in our public module source too.

Peter


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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread ref...@gmx.net
Another attempt, please checkSent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects. Original Message Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDVFrom: ref...@crosswire.orgTo: sword-devel@crosswire.orgCC: Dear All,This is to announce that we have just now uploaded CPDV.This is is an updated version of CPDV.Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.yoursThe Module TeamP.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module___sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.orghttp://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-develInstructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page___
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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread Cyrille
Wonderful :) It works.

Il 06/05/2019 17:58, ref...@crosswire.org ha scritto:
> Dear All,
> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded CPDV.
> This is is an updated version of CPDV.
> Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.
>
> yours
>
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[sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread refdoc
Dear All,
This is to announce that we have just now uploaded CPDV.
This is is an updated version of CPDV.
Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.

yours

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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: ItNomiBibbia

2019-05-06 Thread Cyrille
Yes ItNomiBibbia it's ok, I can see it :)

Il 06/05/2019 17:33, Karl Kleinpaste ha scritto:
> On 5/6/19 8:57 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote:
>> No update, no change
> Unfortunately, attempting update for CPDV just now, it still hasn't
> gotten into an updated mods.d.tar.gz.
>
> (Sorry)
>
> $ grep crosswire.*pub/sword/raw InstallMgr.conf
> FTPSource=CrossWire|ftp.crosswire.org|/pub/sword/raw|||20081216195754
> $ cd 20081216195754
> $ ls -l mods.d/cpdv.conf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 Jan 16  2014 mods.d/cpdv.conf
> $ ls -lc mods.d/cpdv.conf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 May  6 11:29 mods.d/cpdv.conf
> $ grep ^Version mods.d/cpdv.conf
> Version=1.0.1
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Re: [sword-devel] Sword front-ends, the clipboard and social media

2019-05-06 Thread David Haslam
If that’s the case, then we need to review how the bright idea might be applied 
so as to facilitate pasting into social media edit boxes that squish all rich 
text or HTML format

David

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On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 01:25, Greg Hellings  wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that verse numbers are exclusively the purview of front ends 
> and aren't part of the engine markup.
>
> --Greg
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019, 15:29 David Haslam  wrote:
>
>> No - although a front-end would include the UI option to “Copy Special”,
>> IMHO, the right place for the special filter would be the back-end engine.
>>
>> It’s the back-end that “knows” which object is a verse tag,
>> as opposed to verse text that just happens to contain some digits.
>> Eg. The integer 144,000 in Revelation 7:4 for some translations.
>>
>> No front-end developer is obliged to make use of the suggested filter.
>> But it gives them a design choice that can be exploited to advantage in the 
>> described usage case.
>>
>> In Xiphos, for example, the dialogue would simply require an extra tick box 
>> with (say) a mouseover tooltip.
>>
>>  Best regards,
>>
>> David
>>
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>> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 21:08, ref...@gmx.net  wrote:
>>
>>> I think the main problem is that there is a whole huge worlds out there of 
>>> weird and wonderful restrictions. Some blogging platforms accept wiki mark 
>>> up, others markdown yet others restricted html, etc.
>>>
>>> I do not think the engine is the place other than for well defined 
>>> standardised output formats, as much of the rest ephemeral. But front-ends 
>>> maybe can do more?
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.
>>>
>>>  Original Message 
>>> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Sword front-ends, the clipboard and social media
>>> From: David Haslam
>>> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>>> CC:
>>>
 Jack,

 I think you’ve missed the main point too.

 Facebook edit boxes for posts, comments and replies sees everything pasted 
 as plain vanilla text.
 Text styles are simply squished.

 However, being a global platform, it supports the whole Unicode character 
 set.

 David

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 On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 20:14, Jaak Ristioja  wrote:

> I'd suggest using CSS with custom element attributes instead, for example:
>
> 
> Hallelujah! :)
> 
> span::before {
> content: attr(verse-id);
> vertical-align: super;
> font-size: 50%;
> margin: 0 0.4em 0 0;
> }
> 
> 
> 
> Christ
> is
> risen!
> 
> 
>
> Online example: https://jsfiddle.net/23z5n9dc/
>
> Best regards,
> J
>
> On 05.05.19 18:58, David Haslam wrote:
>> When pasting a Bible passage from the clipboard to Social media, text 
>> styles are usually squished.
>>
>> This often means that superscripted verse tags just become ordinary 
>> numbers.
>> Some front-ends even leave no space between the verse tag and the start 
>> of verse text.
>> The result in social media is a tad ugly.
>>
>> Surely we could do better?
>>
>> One bright idea implemented externally by one of our members is simple 
>> enough for us to consider adding as a new filter in the SWORD API.
>>
>> Convert verse number digits to Unicode superscript digits, ⁰¹²³⁴⁵⁶⁷⁸⁹
>>
>> NB. These special 10 characters are not in a continuous block.
>>
>> How front-ends might include the filter such that copying a passage to 
>> the clipboard would automatically make use of these special characters 
>> is yet to be determined, but if the idea is not yet discussed, we’ll not 
>> make any progress.
>>
>> Aside: I made my own TextPipe filter to convert digits to these special 
>> characters.
>> I included a restriction to avoid converting chapter numbers.
>> I did not yet consider what to do about digits that are part of verse 
>> text (such as 144,000).
>>
>> Even so, how do software developers feel about the concept ?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David
>>
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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: ItNomiBibbia

2019-05-06 Thread Karl Kleinpaste

On 5/6/19 8:57 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote:

No update, no change
Unfortunately, attempting update for CPDV just now, it still hasn't 
gotten into an updated mods.d.tar.gz.


(Sorry)

$ grep crosswire.*pub/sword/raw InstallMgr.conf
FTPSource=CrossWire|ftp.crosswire.org|/pub/sword/raw|||20081216195754
$ cd 20081216195754
$ ls -l mods.d/cpdv.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 Jan 16  2014 mods.d/cpdv.conf
$ ls -lc mods.d/cpdv.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 karl karl 2257 May  6 11:29 mods.d/cpdv.conf
$ grep ^Version mods.d/cpdv.conf
Version=1.0.1

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[sword-devel] Lexham English Septuagint

2019-05-06 Thread David Haslam
I just saw that Lexham has announced a new English translation of the LXX.

[https://www.amazon.com/dp/1683593448/](https://www.amazon.com/dp/1683593448/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8=sl1=ricoblog04-20=09acab2d25eec648f42bd7982c8f1161=en_US)

Due out November 2019

David

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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread David Haslam
It does not appear in the Latin branch of the Biblical Texts category when 
viewed from PocketSword.

Where did you find the CPDV with such a configuration key?

Or is it the case that there is more than one Lang= ?

cf. I cannot read the raw text of a .conf file installed in PocketSword.
For that, I must use my PC and Xiphos, then Explorer & a text editor.

David

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On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 15:42, Michael H  wrote:

> re: CPDV.conf
>
> It is also NOT a Latin work, but should still be listed as English.
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:39 AM Michael H  wrote:
>
>> Re: CPDV updated version
>>
>> The CPDV.conf dated today does not have a version number in it. The history 
>> suggests it should show version 2.1. I'm not seeing it as an update on 
>> Bibletime.
>>
>> ftp://crosswire.org/pub/sword/raw/mods.d/cpdv.conf
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:01 AM David Haslam  wrote:
>>
>>> Please inform us the CPDV version.
>>>
>>> From PocketSword I still see 1.0.1 after the source refresh. But that’s 
>>> what was already installed.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
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>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 14:30, ref...@gmx.net  wrote:
>>>
 Again, this was a text which had not made it onto the new server. Please 
 ignore otherwise

 Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird 
 autocorrects.

  Original Message 
 Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
 From: ref...@crosswire.org
 To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
 CC:

> Dear All,
> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded CPDV.
> This is is an updated version of CPDV.
> Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.
>
> yours
>
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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread Michael H
re: CPDV.conf

It is also NOT a Latin work, but should still be listed as English.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:39 AM Michael H  wrote:

> Re: CPDV updated version
>
> The CPDV.conf dated today does not have a version number in it. The
> history suggests it should show version 2.1. I'm not seeing it as an update
> on Bibletime.
>
> ftp://crosswire.org/pub/sword/raw/mods.d/cpdv.conf
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:01 AM David Haslam  wrote:
>
>> Please inform us the CPDV version.
>>
>> From PocketSword I still see 1.0.1 after the source refresh. But that’s
>> what was already installed.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
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>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 14:30, ref...@gmx.net  wrote:
>>
>> Again, this was a text which had not made it onto the new server. Please
>> ignore otherwise
>>
>> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird
>> autocorrects.
>>
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
>> From: ref...@crosswire.org
>> To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
>> CC:
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded CPDV.
>> This is is an updated version of CPDV.
>> Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.
>>
>> yours
>>
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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread Michael H
Re: CPDV updated version

The CPDV.conf dated today does not have a version number in it. The history
suggests it should show version 2.1. I'm not seeing it as an update on
Bibletime.

ftp://crosswire.org/pub/sword/raw/mods.d/cpdv.conf


On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:01 AM David Haslam  wrote:

> Please inform us the CPDV version.
>
> From PocketSword I still see 1.0.1 after the source refresh. But that’s
> what was already installed.
>
> Regards.
>
> David
>
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>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 14:30, ref...@gmx.net  wrote:
>
> Again, this was a text which had not made it onto the new server. Please
> ignore otherwise
>
> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird
> autocorrects.
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV
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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread David Haslam
Please inform us the CPDV version.

From PocketSword I still see 1.0.1 after the source refresh. But that’s what 
was already installed.

Regards.

David

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>> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded CPDV.
>> This is is an updated version of CPDV.
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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

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Again, this was a text which had not made it onto the new server. Please ignore otherwiseSent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects. Original Message Subject: [sword-devel] Module upload: CPDVFrom: ref...@crosswire.orgTo: sword-devel@crosswire.orgCC: Dear All,This is to announce that we have just now uploaded CPDV.This is is an updated version of CPDV.Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.yoursThe Module TeamP.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module___sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.orghttp://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-develInstructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page___
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[sword-devel] Module upload: CPDV

2019-05-06 Thread refdoc
Dear All,
This is to announce that we have just now uploaded CPDV.
This is is an updated version of CPDV.
Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.

yours

The Module Team

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[sword-devel] Module upload: ItNomiBibbia

2019-05-06 Thread refdoc
Dear All,
This is to announce that we have just now uploaded ItNomiBibbia.
This is is an updated version of ItNomiBibbia.
Many thanks to Cyrille for the hard work.

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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: ItNomiBibbia

2019-05-06 Thread Peter von Kaehne
This was an upload of a module which had gone lost somewhere in the
server move.

No update, no change

Peter

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