[sword-devel] Adding local modules to Bishop (Android 13.0)
Hi, I have not been able to add local modules to Bishop. I use the dialogue to add the modules, which results with no modules added, but no error message. I am using zip files saved from the Crosswire website. I am not sure how to debug this, but I can do so if told. (This follows a note on the Bishop google play / git pages) Thanks, Luke___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Sword -r2741
I'm back after a week. My wife gave birth. I would like to thank David Haslam for his recent discussions on the sword-utilities in Windows. This is exactly the problem that I have with building our projects module which we really want to make available online. In regards to the section headings. AndBible, Eloquent, PocketSword, BPBible, BibleDesktop, Alkitab all work fine with the headings as created in -r2679. This means that it is only Xiphos that cannot display the headings. I assumed this would mean that Xiphos has the bug, but I was told in my bug request that the problem is in sword. Here I am told that the problem is in my osis. The good news is that my supervisor has agreed that we will just forge ahead and submit our module to sword and to disregard the errors in Xiphos (just not encourage the use of it). However, I would like to make one last attempt to see if there is something I can do on my part to get it fixed. In Issue 18, Troy Griffitts told me to upload a snippet of my osis so that it could be examined. I hope someone can help me identify something I might have wrong. Here is the snippet of osis as Troy requested, see any problems? ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? osis xmlns=http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace; xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; xsi:schemaLocation=http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace http://www.bibletechnologies.net/osisCore.2.1.1.xsd; osisText osisRefWork=Bible xml:lang=sml osisIDWork=KitaSML header work osisWork=KitaSML/ /header div type=book osisID=Gen title type=mainPANAGNA'AN/title div type=sectiontitle subType=x-preversePahati pasal Jūd itu/title pIn Jūd Panagna'an itu palbahagi'an Kitab Tawrat, ‘Genesis’ ōnna ma bahasa Ingglis...takdil ni manusiya'./p pItiya'...maina'an./p pAheka ... angandol ma iya./p /div chapter sID=Gen.1 osisID=Gen.1/ div type=majorSection titleJŪD PANAGNA'AN/title /div div type=majorSection titlePalbahagi'an Kitab Tawrat/title div type=section title subType=x-preverseTagna'an Dunya itu/title p verse sID=Gen.1.1 osisID=Gen.1.1/ Ma tagna'anna to'ongan, Tuhan ya bay amapanjari dunya maka langit. verse eID=Gen.1.1/ verse sID=Gen.1.2 osisID=Gen.1.2/ Na, ma...isab RūnoteRū Tuhan: ‘Nyawa Tuhan’ bang ma kasehe'an./note Tuhan ... inān. verse eID=Gen.1.2/ /p ... verse sID=Gen.1.31 osisID=Gen.1.31/ Manjari ... ka'nnomna na. verse eID=Gen.1.31/ /p chapter eID=Gen.1/ chapter sID=Gen.2 osisID=Gen.2/ p verse sID=Gen.2.1 osisID=Gen.2.1/ Buwattē' bay pamapanjari dunya maka langit maka kamemon ai-aina. verse eID=Gen.2.1/ /p p verse sID=Gen.2.2 osisID=Gen.2.2/ Ta'abut llaw kapitu'na, aubus na Tuhan ma kamemon hinangna ati pahali na iya. verse eID=Gen.2.2/ verse sID=Gen.2.3 osisID=Gen.2.3/ Binarakatan...ai-ai. verse eID=Gen.2.3/ /p /div div type=section title subType=x-preverseSi Mbo' Adam maka si Sitti Hawa/title p verse sID=Gen.2.4 osisID=Gen.2.4/ Na, buwattē' ya pamapanjari langit maka dunya. /p p Tagna' bay kapamapanjari divineNamePANGHŪ'/divineName TuhannotedivineNamePANGHŪ'/divineName Tuhan: atawa ‘Tuhan Yawe.’ Yawe itu dī ōn Tuhan, sagō' mbal agon kasandalan kawasana angkan mbal tak'bbat e' bangsa Yahudi. divineNamePANGHŪ'/divineName ya pamaganti' sigām bang amassa Kitab./note ma langit maka dunya, verse eID=Gen.2.4/ From: sword-devel-requ...@crosswire.org [sword-devel-requ...@crosswire.org] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:00 AM To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: sword-devel Digest, Vol 103, Issue 18 Send sword-devel mailing list submissions to sword-devel@crosswire.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to sword-devel-requ...@crosswire.org You can reach the person managing the list at sword-devel-ow...@crosswire.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of sword-devel digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Sword -r2741 (Troy A. Griffitts) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:47:10 +0200 From: Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Sword -r2741 Message-ID: 6fb6f40d-d7be-482b-a549-e1ae7fb6d...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Luke, it would be very helpful if you could post a brief snippet of OSIS that represents the problem you are having. One of us will gladly confirm that it works in the lastest importer and engine. luke l...@motimail.com wrote: In recent correspondence with Karl Kleinpaste of the Xiphos project about display issues with our project's module. He recommended that I try sword's latest -r2741 because it has recent changes regarding osis headings. I do not have access to this version of sword. Would
[sword-devel] Sword -r2741
In recent correspondence with Karl Kleinpaste of the Xiphos project about display issues with our project's module. He recommended that I try sword's latest -r2741 because it has recent changes regarding osis headings. I do not have access to this version of sword. Would someone be willing to run our project's osis file through the latest version of sword (apparently -r2741), create a module from it and then send me the results? - My OSIS was builting using the sword script from USFM files. - My OSIS validates - I have already ran the fix for titles on my osis. Please contact me if you are willing, Thanks ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] OSIS is ready (97% sure)
My language project is very close to being ready to electronically publish our scripture through sword. I have created an osis file which validates and has no untransformed USFM markers. I have ran the fixtitle script over the osis file. I have a .conf file and a locale file ready. I have created modules using two versions of osis2mod (using Windows versions available here: http://www.crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/utils/win32/) and checked them in the various frontends. These are the two versions I used: sword-utilities-1.6.2-r2673.zip and sword-utilities-1.6.1-r2578.zip. These are the problems I have ran into: If I use the most current version (1.6.2-r2673) My headings do not show up at all in Xiphos. This is true whether I use the fixtitle script on the osis or not. Also in Xiphos and in Pocketsword there is a double line break between paragraphs. If I use the previous version (1.6.1-r2578) My headings now display fine in Xiphos. However, in Xiphos, Pocketsword, and AndBible the first verse number of new paragraphs is displayed on a line of its own. The text of the verse then follows on the next line. These visual hiccups don't look good in the eyes of our project manager who will give the final go signal on publishing. (Bible translators tend to be perfectionists, which I am thankful for). Is there something that I can do on my end with my current osis file in order to fix these issues? Should I submit the OSIS files now and see if the crosswire team's created module might fix these problems (there is a high chance that the linux version of osis2mod is working better than the windows)? It is also possible that these are all bugs that I need to register with the various frontends. Please advise. Thanks ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] More questions regarding osis/module making woes
I've seen it mentioned on the wiki that jsword does not read the x-preverse correctly so that it places a number before the heading. Is there anyway to make that show up correctly in jsword? Why does ESV get it correctly? My guess is that ESV might be imported from thtml and not osis? Also I registered a bug with xiphos over a year ago that the headings at beginning of chapters don't show. I missed the e-mail where the developer asked for a copy of my osis and module and so the bug is now closed. The developer said he couldn't reproduce the problem. Has anyone else experienced this problem with xiphos? I find it strange that enabling or disabling header within xiphos doesn't actually have any affect on my headers. They appear to be hard-coded into the text. My boss is looking for perfection on this publishing and I am no where close to being able to deliver. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. I will include a small portion of my osis from the beginning of a chapter. The osis was originally exported from Bibledit and now I'm making manual edits to tweak things in order for it to work. It does validate, but Peter showed me that there were still some funky things in it. Anyway, here goes: verse sID=Matt.15.39 osisID=Matt.15.39/ Jari pinapole' saga a'a inān e' si Isa. Pariyata' iya ni bayanan bo' yampa pauntas ni lahat Magadan. verse eID=Matt.15.39/ chapter eID=Matt.15/ chapter sID=Matt.16 osisID=Matt.16 n=16/ /p /div div type=section titleSaga Parisi Mikipa'nda' Paltanda'an/title p(Markus 8:11-13, Lukas 12:54-56) /p p verse sID=Matt.16.1 osisID=Matt.16.1/ Manjari aniya' saga Parisi maka saga Saddusi bay pina'an ni si Isa. Bilahi sigām anulayan iya bo' supaya iya tajallat ma bissalana. Angkanna sigām mikipa'nda' paltanda'an, palsaksi'an in iya b'nnal taga-kapatut min Tuhan. verse eID=Matt.16.1/ verse sID=Matt.16.2 osisID=Matt.16.2/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] xreffix.pl and possible future questions
☑ Cleaned usfm in Bibledit ☑ Exported to Osis from Bibledit ☑ Fixed Osis errors ☑ Manually had to go through and fix bridged verses, because though the usfm rendering I had was correct, usfm2osis doesn't appear to format it correctly in OSIS and I don't have the capabilities to fix that. ☑ Osis Validates ☑ Ran fixtitles.pl error missing libraries ☑ Asked Crosswire Mailing list and found needed library ☑ Ran fixtitles.pl ☑ Ran xreffix.pl error missing Sword.pm in @INC So now I'm back on the mailing list asking how can I get Sword.pm installed in my ubuntu system. I looked through ubuntu and crosswire repositories and found nothing. I searched google for what Sword.pm might be and found nothing. I'm now trying to guess what future issues I might have that aren't documented. I am unclear on what it is that I might need to edit in the xreffix.pl in order to adapt it for my file (as mentioned in previous e-mails). -In usfm the majority of our cross references are found using the parallel reference marker /r. -Also, since our locale is for a minority language and has just newly been created, where will I need to have that file in order to make it work with the script? Right now I'm guessing that it should be put in the same file as xreffix.pl, but I can imagine it needing to be with the other system locales. I'm hoping that I am very close. I'm fearing that once I've done all of this, it still won't appear correctly in various sword front-ends and I will have to start over. What a journey it has been. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] XML Validation Used
Here is the answer to Peter's question,
I'm using xmllint with osisCore.2.1.1.xsd as my schema. Also about the
language I am creating for, it is not yet in the sword project, but I have a
local locale here on my computer that I have created. The below output is what
comes out when I have left a footnote in only one of the section titles. I
noticed that our Bible has 6 section titles with footnotes and that only the 3
that were at the beginning of chapters were getting flagged as invalid. I was
able to fix two by moving the footnote to the same word used in the first verse
of the chapter. So far I don't have any great solutions for what to do with
this footnote from Genesis 40.
As for the multiple verses combined into one, I have removed that from my usfm
file and just skipped the verses that follow in the series, but it would be
much better if they could be included in the sword module.
$ xmllint --noout --schema http://www.bibletechnologies.net/osisCore.2.1.1.xsd
Kit@bS@m...@.osis.xml
Kit@bS@m...@.osis.xml:4125: element note: Schemas validity error : Element
'{http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace}note', attribute
'osisID': [facet 'pattern'] The value '!footnote' is not accepted by the
pattern
'(((\p{L}|\p{N}|_)+)((\.(\p{L}|\p{N}|_)+)*)?:)?((\p{L}|\p{N}|_|(\\[^\s]))+)((\.(\p{L}|\p{N}|_|(\\[^\s]))+)*)?(!((\p{L}|\p{N}|_|(\\[^\s]))+)((\.(\p{L}|\p{N}|_|(\\[^\s]))+)*)?)?'.
Kit@bS@m...@.osis.xml:4125: element note: Schemas validity error : Element
'{http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace}note', attribute
'osisID': '!footnote' is not a valid value of the atomic type
'{http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace}osisIDRegex'.
KitabS@m...@.osis.xml:4125: element note: Schemas validity error : Element
'{http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace}note', attribute
'osisID': '!footnote' is not a valid value of the list type
'{http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace}osisIDType'.
Kit@bS@m...@.osis.xml fails to validate
@ used above in order to avoid Google.
Last of all, I am not able to use the perl file to fix titles. This is the
command I'm trying to use and the error that comes up:
perl title_cleanup.pl Kit@bS@m...@.osis.xml
Can't locate XML/LibXML.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl
/usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5
/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14
/usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at title_cleanup.pl line 41.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at title_cleanup.pl line 41.
What package might I be missing? I installed the perl library for working with
xml data, but the error persists.
Thanks,
Luke
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Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Please advise, final steps towards our
teams electronic publication (currently on OSIS validation)
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Thank you all for your input on my questions. I'm currently on the step of
fixing my USFM files so that I can create a valid OSIS file.
My osis was pretty close to valid, except for:
1) we had the wrong markers for our book introductions,
2) Bibledit did not put out a valid osis header,
3) footnotes in section titles. (I don't know how to fix this)
We have 3 section titles that have dialect specific words that are used and
need to be explained. The translators just put a footnote with the section
title, but apparently OSIS doesn't like this. Is there anything I can do to
fix this so as to not remove the footnote from its location?
Thanks, Luke
Re: [sword-devel] Please advise, final steps towards our teams electronic publication (currently on OSIS validation)
Thank you all for your input on my questions. I'm currently on the step of fixing my USFM files so that I can create a valid OSIS file. My osis was pretty close to valid, except for: 1) we had the wrong markers for our book introductions, 2) Bibledit did not put out a valid osis header, 3) footnotes in section titles. (I don't know how to fix this) We have 3 section titles that have dialect specific words that are used and need to be explained. The translators just put a footnote with the section title, but apparently OSIS doesn't like this. Is there anything I can do to fix this so as to not remove the footnote from its location? Thanks, Luke ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] Question about verses combined in USFM and in OSIS
I also want to ask again about multiple verses that have been combined into one verse i.e. Genesis 1:6-7. Bibledit complains about the usfm formatting of \v 6-7. However, in the USFM User Reference PDF disributed by paratext this is a common format for usfm encoding and is used multiple times in their examples. Then when I look at the osis 2.1 user manual for March 2006, pg 15 it clearly represents a way to do this as well: verse sID=Esth.1.1-Esth.1.2 osisID=Esth.1.1 Esth.1.2 n=1-2/ King Xerxes of Persia lived in his capital city of Susa and ruled one hundred twenty-seven provinces from India to Ethiopia. verse eID=Esth.1.1-Esth.1.2/ Sadly, the end result is that if I try to validate osis that includes this formatting, it is considered invalid. The solution I have been using to make this work in GoBible and to avoid the error warnings in Bibledit is to create an empty verse 7 for GoBible file or in my sword project module to leave the text without a vs 7. This allows me to validate, but it makes our published text and our electronic text different and could give the appearance to people using the electronic version that we have deleted parts of God's Word. Any known solution that is better than this? Thanks, Luke ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] Please advise, final steps towards our teams electronic publication
After 1 1/2 years of waiting we have finally gotten past all textual issues for publishing our translated Bible into the Sword Format. Now I need to get past all technical issues so that we can put it out. History: I have used probably 4 different ways to produce Bible modules for Sword. 1) Bibledit (my favorite, because it seems quite easy) Issues: If I am not mistaken it hard codes Bible references and Title names into the verses. 2) Paratext-Pathway export to Sword 3) Export from Paratext to OSIS. Then use xmltogbs to create module. 4) Robert H.'s script to convert to OSIS and then sword (I may have lost a couple of verses using this method, but I can't say that with certainty.) Problems: Why when I do the Bibledit export do footnotes show up easily in xiphos, but not at all in eloquent. (ESV does not have this problem)? Pocketsword: shows a header at the beginning and end of a text (again ESV does not have this problem)? How do I avoid hard coded bible verse references? My overall question is what ways have you found to be the most effective module creating methods? What would you recommend? I have read the various instructions for doing this over and over again and I have created this file so many times and in so many different ways that currently I am feeling quite disoriented with the process. Thanks in advance for any advice that could be provided. Luke Schroeder From: sword-devel-requ...@crosswire.org [sword-devel-requ...@crosswire.org] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:00 AM To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: sword-devel Digest, Vol 99, Issue 13 Send sword-devel mailing list submissions to sword-devel@crosswire.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to sword-devel-requ...@crosswire.org You can reach the person managing the list at sword-devel-ow...@crosswire.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of sword-devel digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Reading kjvfull.xml (David Haslam) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:30:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Reading kjvfull.xml Message-ID: 1339529408720-4650434.p...@n4.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Dan, Yep! First encounter with the SWORD concept can be a steep learning curve. It was for me, when I joined up with CrossWire four years ago. Even some of the terminology can be baffling to a novice. It's worthwhile to persevere and learn something new each day. The developers' wiki is a very good resource, and it has lots of pages. You may also find it useful to join in one of the IRC chats, details of which are given in http://crosswire.org/wiki/Help:Contents http://crosswire.org/wiki/Help:Contents There are usually folk around who can answer simple questions quickly. Blessings! Regards, David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Reading-kjvfull-xml-tp4650425p4650434.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ___ sword-devel mailing list sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel End of sword-devel Digest, Vol 99, Issue 13 *** ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] Help/Volunteer needed to make minor changes to AlKitab Program
I know that this is a lot to ask, but ask and you shall receive, so I'll try. I am a week and a half away from a biannual conference of great importance to the work that we do. I am trying to get a language (with over a million speakers) website ready to be published before the conference so that we can share the scriptures with the participants in both GoBible and sword format. I would like to be able to provide AlKitab as a download from the website with the language module already installed. I understand that AlKitab can be used portable and I would like to have the portable app .exe be the one that is downloaded from the site. I would also like to strike the words Bible Study from the title bar of the program. And if it wouldn't be digging too much it would be nice to make the two or so places that AlKitab says Biblical Works, say Scriptural Works (this is not priority). Bible is not an acceptable word in our cultural context but AlKitab is. I am not too knowledgeable about recompiling .exe files and that is why I'm hoping someone would help. If you can do this, please contact me and I will e-mail the sword module. Thanks, Luke ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] BPBible's handling of alternative versification
Hey Jon, I like BPBible a lot! The portability of it is really nice. The entire Bible is correct in BPBible until 3 John. 3 John is correct as well, but the last verse is left off. The last verse is then displayed at the beginning of Jude before the book introduction. The first heading becomes verse one and all of the verses are off by one verse. After Revelation 12 the verses are all off by two. Hope that helps. Blessings, Luke ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] Sword 1.6.x and various frontends
I'm slowly but surely working on getting our translation's electronic bible published. I can only install the file into Xiphos when I have it unzipped. It installs into BPBible Porteable fine from the Zip file. I cannot install it at all into Alkitab or Bibledesktop. XULrunner recognizes the file I installed from Xiphos. Alkitab and Bibledesktop do not. After several hours of trying to figure this out, I decided I would go here for help. Are several of the frontends for SWORD not capable of using Sword 1.6.x? I came to this hypothesis because my translation requires NRSV versification and I used the most current sword to make it. These are the steps I took: - I exported from Paratext to OSIS. - I used the most current OSIS2Mod. - I configured it to use NRSV's versification and rawtext - I manually created .config file - I manually setup a zip file to work with this. Please give me any tips I might be missing here. I need to send the file on to my boss. Blessings, Luke ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Sword 1.6.x and various frontends
It is very informative to know that it is only 2 verses. That would give good reason to switch to KJV versification for Sword modules. Also thanks for the info especially on java based front-ends. XulSword and Xiphos are installing it and gets the versification correct, expect for the header gets lost for Revelations 12. I don't know why that happened. BPBible installs it, keeps the right headings, but messes up the versification. Finally, it still is a bit frustrating that even using KJV versification the java based front-ends don't recognize the Bible mod I made using the latest osis2mod where the osis was derived from Paratext export. Overall a big thanks to all of you for the numerous replies given. Luke On 5/25/2011 2:48 AM, Chris Little wrote: Since the NRSV varies from the KJV by exactly 2 verses, I would recommend just switching to KJV in osis2mod. --Chris On May 24, 2011, at 9:11, Luke Schroederl...@motimail.com wrote: I'm slowly but surely working on getting our translation's electronic bible published. I can only install the file into Xiphos when I have it unzipped. It installs into BPBible Porteable fine from the Zip file. I cannot install it at all into Alkitab or Bibledesktop. XULrunner recognizes the file I installed from Xiphos. Alkitab and Bibledesktop do not. After several hours of trying to figure this out, I decided I would go here for help. Are several of the frontends for SWORD not capable of using Sword 1.6.x? I came to this hypothesis because my translation requires NRSV versification and I used the most current sword to make it. These are the steps I took: - I exported from Paratext to OSIS. - I used the most current OSIS2Mod. - I configured it to use NRSV's versification and rawtext - I manually created .config file - I manually setup a zip file to work with this. Please give me any tips I might be missing here. I need to send the file on to my boss. Blessings, Luke ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page . ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] MDF/SFM Dictionary Import into Sword Format
Does anyone with a basic knowledge of programming see any merit in the following idea? Make a script that takes basic components of a dictionary and formats it alphabetically into the sword imp format. The imp format being as follows: $$$word in another language Definition or gloss of word immediately below. The dictionary format being the standard used by Bible translators, called MDF (Manual for Dictionary Formatting?) and adapted in the SIL's program Fieldworks. My idea of a script would be to allow the user to input the backslash codes into the script for the word, sense number, part of speech, definition, example sentence, example sentence translated. In our dictionary these codes would be: \lc, \sn, \ps, \ge, \xv, \xe but in others dictionaries they would want the ability to adapt the backslash codes a little since often Fieldworks gives backslash codes that include the language name. The script would then output a file in imp format. The file would look like this: $$$Word [Part of speech] [Definition] (1st sense of word) [Example Sentence] [Example Sentence translation] [Part of speech] [Definition] (2nd sense of word [Example Sentence] [Example Sentence translation] etc. It seems to me like this is very basic programming. It also seems to me that if someone really go into the project they could do a lot more than what I just described. Finally I find this beneficial, because most of the Bible translation teams for minority languages are working on dictionaries at the same time. For people like the group I work with, the dictionary is valued more than the Bible. It is easy to get the Bibles into Sword format. If this script were made it would be easy to get dictionaries into sword format (at least in their most basic form). Having the two distributed together allows interaction between both works. It helps younger people in the language understand the deeper words of their language. Any programmers out their interested? Sincerely yours, Luke S. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] Help with versification
My wife and I are team members of a minority Bible translation that we have received permission to proceed with the final stages of preparing a SWORD module for and a GoBible module. I don't completely understand how versification works. In the Sword module things work pretty well. Our translation of Matthew 1 has verse numberings that go like this: 1, 2-6, 7-11, 12-16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25. In Sword it is currently displayed like this: 1, 2, 7, 12, 17, 18, etc. It would be preferable if I could get it to display like the first set, but that isn't so big of a problem. However in GoBible I have a major problem because it displays like this: 1,2 (represents 2-6), 3 (represents 7-11), 4 (represents 12-16), 5 (17), 6 (18), and so on. Did I make myself clear? Is there anything I can do to keep the GoBible looking pretty but not have people look for a certain verse reference and find out that it is several verses off because of how we have combined some verses due to translation practice? Any help would be appreciated, Thanks ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] What is the command to retrieve text by args like Genesis 1:1
On Monday 27 April 2009 14:56:24 Wei-Wei Guo wrote: Dear all, I want to write a Sword extension for Sphinx. The extension can help on Bible study by this way: If I type :bible:`Genesis 1:1` in text, after compiling, the following line will be inserted In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. So I need to know, is it possible to call a command generating the previous line with argument of Genesis 1:1 or something similar? And if the command can select Bible texts module, such as ChiNCVs or ASV, it would be better. If there is no such convenient command, could you point me to some materials with which I can write a simple script. Except an API primer, I don't find any other document like man page or help file of Sword. I'm presuming you want to write in Python. You need to build the Sword Python SWIG bindings (from the sword source tarball), and I have some Python code here which should provide a basis for what you need. http://hg.lukeplant.me.uk/python/luke/file/b146cdf1a8c9/lukeplant_me_uk/bibleverses/sword.py The function get_bible_text() is what you need to look at, the rest may or may not be relevant. The code seems somewhat cumbersome, there may be an easier way. Also, the process of converting to plain text is somewhat hacky, and I only implemented what I needed (I mainly use the ESV module). The code is original and is in the public domain. Regards, Luke -- LORENZ'S LAW OF MECHANICAL REPAIR: After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch. Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] [off topic] Thank you!
Hi all, I've been working full time in a church for the past 2 months, and while I've used BibleTime/SWORD quite a bit before (and even wrote my own frontend, KioSword, a while back), I've been using BibleTime more than ever now, and I wanted to say a massive thank you to the SWORD and BibleTime devs for all their work. Having now studied Greek and Hebrew at Bible college, I am particularly loving side-by-side ESV/WHNU/LXX/BHS with StrongsRealGreek etc. and the search facilities. Thanks so much to you all, and to the module packagers as well, may God bless you! Luke -- If something is hard, it's not worth doing. (Homer Simpson) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] Luther commentary - strange behaviour
With the following code (written in Python for ease of testing, but I'm seeing the same thing in C++): -- import Sword mgr = Sword.SWMgr() module = mgr.getModule(Luther) vk = Sword.VerseKey.castTo(module.getKey()) vk.AutoNormalize(0) vk.setText(Ephesians 1:1) print repr(module.Error()) print repr(module.RenderText()) --- I expect to see: '\x01' '' Instead I see: '\x00' 'pVERSE 26. bLet us ...snipped ' [Entry for Galatians 5:26, which isn't even the last entry in the module] Any ideas what could be causing this? It doesn't happen with some other modules I've tested. Thanks, Luke -- The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action. Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Slightly Off-topic: Bible verse memorisation project
On Thursday 27 March 2008 22:31:11 Greg Hellings wrote: I'm planning on adding a system for the user to simply tick off verses that have been learnt, using AJAX to store it on the server -- that should also help in giving a sense of progress. Of course you'd have to store lots of data for the user, etc including registration information, etc. You might do better to store it in a cookie on the client side, and restore from the local data. I had though of that, but: 1) you've only 4k, and you might use it all up 2) if people lose the cookies (easy to do, as people don't make any effort to keep them), then all the records are gone. I'm intending to use a simple database, probably sqlite, server side. As for AJAX frameworks, I've had good luck with using the GWT (Google Web Toolkit) for doing heavy-lifting on the client side. Google even claims there is a client-side portion of the library that handles XML parsing, etc. You can do some impressive things with it, and it's designed to integrate with a Java/Servlet back end Then I'd have to write it in Java. Why would I want to do that? :-) Seriously, I'm using something a lot more lightweight and easier to set up -- static HTML (as opposed to server generated), MochiKit for Javascript, JSON for transport, Python CGI with web.py on the backend. Regards, Luke -- Life is complex. It has both real and imaginary components. Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] Slightly Off-topic: Bible verse memorisation project
Hi all, In the course of getting serious about learning Bible verses and passages, I decided I needed a method of choosing Bible verses and putting together schemes, and that other people could benefit from this. I couldn't find much that was freely available and met all my needs, so I've written a project to help me do this, and published the (unfinished) results here: http://lukeplant.me.uk/bibleverses/index.html Basic outline: - Use a set of YAML documents to define: - verses with categories and comments - topics - schemes - Pull all these together using Python scripts - Use Sword, via Python bindings, to grab the actual Bible verse where it hasn't been included in the YAML - Output web pages I've come up with a huge number of topics that I'd like to cover, and I'm not done, and I've realised I could use some help in filling it out with actual Bible verses. The main help I'm looking for is verses to be added to the YAML documents -- there are huge gaps and many obvious and important passages missed out -- but any other improvements would be welcome too. The code is all available from that site (for the moment, via Mercurial and Mercurial web interface only, with links for the main YAML documents). It's a bit rough around the edges, but there is a README etc which should be enough to get going. I haven't put a licence file anywhere in it yet, but I intend to release under BSD or possibly public domain to make this as widely useful as possible. Best regards, Luke P.S. This is my personal project, and I'm providing sources so anyone can fork it, so in the case of theological differences (choice about Bible versions, importance of verses, comments etc), I'm going to have to use the age old conflict resolution technique called I'm the boss :-) -- I washed a sock. Then I put it in the dryer. When I took it out, it was gone. (Steven Wright) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Slightly Off-topic: Bible verse memorisation project
On Thursday 27 March 2008 17:10:35 jonathon wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Luke Plant wrote: I'm not done, and I've realised I could use some help in filling it out with actual Bible verses. The main help I'm looking for is verses to be added to the YAML I'd suggest creating small sets of verses that users can install. People feel much more confident that they can memorize verses, if they can see that they've memorized all of the verses used in The Four Spiritual Laws, or The Roman Road. Then they will tackle large sets, such as Navigators Topical Memory System. Thanks for the suggestions, I have added the verses from The Four Spiritual Laws and Two ways to live. Thanks David also for the Navigators link. I'm planning on adding a system for the user to simply tick off verses that have been learnt, using AJAX to store it on the server -- that should also help in giving a sense of progress. Regards, Luke -- I washed a sock. Then I put it in the dryer. When I took it out, it was gone. (Steven Wright) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Python bindings and dynamic cast
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 23:47:02 Ben Morgan wrote: Hi, Step 2 can be done using VerseKey.castTo(swkey) Thanks! I had guessed that .castTo might help me, but I couldn't work out how to use it. Cheers, Luke -- I never hated a man enough to give him his diamonds back. (Zsa Zsa Gabor) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] Python bindings and dynamic cast
Hi, I've been trying to use Sword with Python bindings to simply get a list of verses with a reference like Genesis 1:1-10. All the example code I can find, including code I have written in the past, uses a dynamic cast: 1) VerseKey::ParseVerseList() is used, which returns a ListKey* 2) A dynamic cast is done to return a VerseKey* 3) Then VerseKey::UpperBound() and VerseKey::LowerBound() are used in iterating over the verses. The problem is, I can't work out how to do step 2) or equivalent in Python. I'm using the standard Python bindings, built from sword-1.5.9/bindings/swig/ Help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Luke -- Ineptitude: If you can't learn to do something well, learn to enjoy doing it poorly. (despair.com) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries and empty footnotes
On Friday 11 January 2008 00:46:49 Luke Plant wrote: On Thursday 10 January 2008 22:23:48 Barry Drake wrote: Hi Troy .. Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Try adding this to the .conf file: GlobalOptionFilter=OSISFootnotes Arrrgh . thanks Troy for your patience! One of us ought to have spotted that one. I've put SwordReader back to using stripText because our method doesn't make anything of the footnote tags - just shows them in the raw. Otherwise, it's just fine. Thanks and thankyou Luke for a really useful module. I'm sorry, I actually thought of this and put that line in my .conf, but forgot to tell anyone. The reason I forgot to mention this is that it still doesn't work for me. In fact, the module does not show that it has any options available in BibleTime (as if it simply did not recognise GlobalOptionFilter=OSISFootnotes). I'm using latest BibleTime (1.6.5, from CVS). How do you get the footnotes to show? I see (1) in superscript, but only in KJV can I succeed in actually seeing the note (I have to select the small bit of text that contains the (1)). I have the same problem with ESV -- I see the (1), but can't get the note to show. For the sake of the archives: I discovered this was related to the BibleTime theme. Changing away from the 'High Contrast' theme fixed it. Luke -- Noise proves nothing. Often a hen who has merely laid an egg cackles as if she laid an asteroid. -- Mark Twain Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] thml and scriprefs
On Thursday 31 January 2008 04:18:04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it's not supposed to work (and it doesn't, the book headers don't work) but it does save a lot of work :). What exactly do you mean, the book headers don't work? If you provide an example, I may be able to fix it, and that way we save a lot *more* work for the future. If at all possible, it would be *much* better to fix the XSLT than do any hand editing. Regards, Luke -- Our software is idiot proof. If you bought it, that's proof you're an idiot (Dogbert) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries and empty footnotes
On Tuesday 15 January 2008 00:22:26 Chris Little wrote: Okay, the module is up in beta. (It may take a while to show up.) You also changed the MinimumVersion to 1.5.10 (I discovered this after not seeing it show up for a day, and then FTPing in manually). Was there a reason for this? It works fine in BibleTime 1.6.5, which uses Sword 1.5.9. Perhaps it should say 1.5.9, (instead of what it said before, 1.5.2). Luke -- The only skills I have the patience to learn are those that have no real application in life. (Calvin and Hobbes) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries and empty footnotes
On Thursday 10 January 2008 21:04:30 Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Try adding this to the .conf file: GlobalOptionFilter=OSISFootnotes ...and it works perfectly. Thank you very much for saving me from hours of futile work debugging nonexistent bug in BibleTime. Chris (Little -- I believe you are the right person), I think the module is working well enough for more public consumption. Could you put it on the Sword servers? I currently have a very dodgy internet connection, so I won't be able to upload a new version. If you download my last version: http://lukeplant.me.uk/misc/sword/CalvinsCommentaries.zip you will just have to change the .conf to include the line Troy suggested. Thanks, Luke -- The one day you'd sell your soul for something, souls are a glut. Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries and empty footnotes
On Friday 11 January 2008 10:23:10 Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Luke Plant wrote: I'm sorry, I actually thought of this and put that line in my .conf, but forgot to tell anyone. The reason I forgot to mention this is that it still doesn't work for me. In fact, the module does not show that it has any options available in BibleTime (as if it simply did not recognise GlobalOptionFilter=OSISFootnotes). I'm using latest BibleTime (1.6.5, from CVS). How do you get the footnotes to show? I see (1) in superscript, but only in KJV can I succeed in actually seeing the note (I have to select the small bit of text that contains the (1)). I have the same problem with ESV -- I see the (1), but can't get the note to show. Strange, I've got it here on top of Kubuntu Linux, KDE 3.5.8 and it works fine, both 1.6.4(orig. Kubuntu), 1.6.5 and 1.7svn/KDE4. What's your platform? The same - KDE 3.5.8, Kubuntu (Gutsy, which I presume you must be using), with most BibleTime 1.6.5, updated to CVS HEAD. I had problems with 1.6.4, as at least one other person had, e.g.: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1778330group_id=954atid=100954 What do you actually do to see the note - select text, just hover? Thanks, Luke -- The first ten million years were the worst. And the second ten million, they were the worst too. The third ten million, I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline. (Marvin the paranoid android) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries and empty footnotes
On Wednesday 09 January 2008 20:30:15 DM Smith wrote: I notice something like this in KJV: note type=studyAdam: or, the man/note In the new Calvin, there seems to be something like: note n=40 p Namely, into heaven and earth./p /note This is perfectly valid OSIS. Just a wild guess that the p.../p is causing the note to be rendered as empty. IMHO, having the entire note surrounded by p is unnecessary and probably will introduce unwanted whitespace. The problem with stripping it is that sometimes notes in Calvin's commentaries can be several paragraphs long, I believe. Stripping out any markup inside a note should be a last resort, IMO. If the frontend wants to do that, there is nothing stopping them, but requiring it of the module source doesn't seem to make sense. In KJV, we don't seem to have a number, just a 'type'. The KJV preserved the type attribute from the previous edition. There were no n attributes, so none were created. The 'raw' output shows the 'type' as 'type=n' Actually, this is a magic value created by the Sword engine. It is set to 'x' if it the type is a cross-reference and 'n' otherwise. - it's obviously using the 'n' that goes with the note number. BTW, in OSIS (and I think that it got it from TEI), the n attribute is used for the number to be shown. It could be something other than digits. Sword does not look at the value, but manufactures it's own. JSword uses it if present, creating it's own when not. In the Calvin module, the values of 'n' are straight from the ThML sources, and ThML also borrows its definition of note from TEI. My thml2osis.xslt code does no translation of the note tag -- it just uses all the existing attributes. Once there is concensus about how this should work I'll update the module. In BibleTime, which is the only frontend I have installed at the moment (apart from my own Kio-Sword, which doesn't handle notes at all), notes are rather tricky -- it is next to impossible to get the contents to show up at all, you have to mess around selecting the text (can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?). It would be great to have docs for this kind of thing. My biggest frustration with the Sword project is finding documentation -- I can't even find generated API docs for Sword, the only ones I have I generated myself (I think) using doxygen several years ago. Searching through source code to find answers to these questions is very far from ideal (and impossible if you don't read C++/Java/whatever), as is trying to search mailing list archives which are usually out of date. Best regards, and thanks for help debugging the module, Luke -- The first ten million years were the worst. And the second ten million, they were the worst too. The third ten million, I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline. (Marvin the paranoid android) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries - new module
On Wednesday 09 January 2008 13:50:48 Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: BibleTime gives only empty footnotes. Yeah, I noticed this, and I thought it was a BibleTime problem. The only other OSIS module I have, ESV, does the same thing as far as I can see -- I don't know how to see the contents of the footnotes. Luke -- The first ten million years were the worst. And the second ten million, they were the worst too. The third ten million, I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline. (Marvin the paranoid android) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries - new module
Hi all, I did some more work on this, and I reckon I'm ready for public testing. Changes include: - list of books in the .conf, as suggested by someone on the list - fixed the book of Psalms, Zechariah and Malachi, which had slightly different ThML, causing them to import incorrectly. - a couple of fixes to the source of John 1, which I've also sent upstream (CCEL) as ThML patches. All of the links below remains as they were, they have been updated with new files. For the impatient, it should just be a matter of getting the .osis.bz2 and the .conf, bunzipping it and running osis2mod: osis2mod ...something/modules/comments/zcom/calvinscommentaries calvinscommentaries.versified.osis 0 2 3 Obviously, there may still be errors, but there is no way I can check all of it, and everything I've come across so far now seems to be in order, and I've been enjoying using it myself :-) Regards, Luke Hi all, I've created a module that combines all of Calvin's commentaries. It is an OSIS module, which I've generated from CCEL's ThML sources, using XSLT and various python scripts etc. osis2mod doesn't yet support OSIS commentaries very well (it requires them to be marked up like Bibles), so, after some messing around, I've added a stage into the scripts to 'versify' the OSIS -- hopefully that will be removed at some point. All my scripts etc. are in the swordtools Subversion repository. For the end result, see: http://lukeplant.me.uk/misc/sword/calvinscommentaries.versified.osis.bz2 http://lukeplant.me.uk/misc/sword/calvinscommentaries.conf It's working quite nicely on my machine :-) To generate the module from sources, you will need to look in the swordtools repository: http://crosswire.org/svn/modules/calvinscommentaries Have a look at the README. (BTW, current build scripts don't clean up after themselves very well, to make debugging easier, so you will end up with 300 Mb of stuff in a folder 'build'). You will also need the CCEL sources -- for your convenience, you can download them here: http://lukeplant.me.uk/misc/sword/calcom_sources.tar.bz2 I haven't checked this thoroughly by any means, and I've run out of time to do any more work on it for a while, but it should provide a pretty solid basis. The module strips out everything that isn't commentary, including Calvin's latin translation of the text and all the forewords and indexes -- I think that is better, for now at least. One thing I have noticed, and I think it is a bug with osis2mod -- where a line starts with whitespace, all the leading whitespace is removed, which means that if the line before didn't end with whitespace, two words now get joined together. For an example, search for eloquent by nature, but when in calvinscommentaries.versified.osis, and see the corresponding words in Gen 3:1, where you will find whenSatan. This occurs quite a lot, it would be good to get it fixed before releasing the module to the public. Regards, Luke -- The first ten million years were the worst. And the second ten million, they were the worst too. The third ten million, I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline. (Marvin the paranoid android) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries - new module
On Tuesday 08 January 2008 23:15:33 DArio Matos wrote: Luke, Are the files you posted the link in your first mail updated? I'd like to test them myself. All the links are updated. All the source files and scripts for conversion are available as described in my previous emails (the first one in this thread I think). Also, could you make them windows-frontend installer friendly, instead of just having them raw? The one thing I hadn't actually done was to post the compiled module anywhere - I was posting this for Chris Little to do that and put it on the Sword servers. But I've now uploaded my zip file: http://lukeplant.me.uk/misc/sword/CalvinsCommentaries.zip Well, it should be there by the time you read this -- it is 28 Mb, compared to the 9 Mb for the bzip2 file, and it is still uploading. In case it doesn't upload properly, the md5sum for the zip is: ef91291a6c2653762c7a3fed8a972633 Regards, Luke -- The first ten million years were the worst. And the second ten million, they were the worst too. The third ten million, I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline. (Marvin the paranoid android) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries - new module
On Wednesday 09 January 2008 01:58:36 Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Luke Plant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, it should be there by the time you read this -- it is 28 Mb, compared to the 9 Mb for the bzip2 file, and it is still uploading. The reason the .zip is so large is that you did not remove the uncompressed content. Once you had compressed it to the 6-file set [on]t.cz[svz], you should have removed the original ot, ot.vss, nt, and nt.vss. The uncompressed content represents about three quarters of the post-unzip total (43M -vs- 17M). Good catch! I couldn't work out for a second how I had managed that, until I realised that 'zip' will happily just add files to an existing archive -- that zip file was created over multiple runs of my scripts. I'm uploading a correct, 15 Mb version now: 9e9c9a165f6691a8bbb2b7876e777289 CalvinsCommentaries.zip Luke -- The first ten million years were the worst. And the second ten million, they were the worst too. The third ten million, I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline. (Marvin the paranoid android) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries - new module
On Wednesday 05 December 2007 08:44:49 Sebastien Koechlin wrote: Are you using the 1.5.10 version? I had a similar problem few months ago, and it have been corrected in this version (read thread ending with http://www.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/2007-May/025394.html ). It looks like I'm using 1.5.9, I had forgotten I wasn't using the most up to date version, thanks. I'm not likely to update this soon, as I'd have to update all my Sword software, so I'll just publish a version that can be processed using osis2mod from 1.5.9. Luke -- My middle name is 'Organised'! My first name is 'Poorly'. Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries - new module
On Friday 30 November 2007 14:18:11 Luke Plant wrote: On Friday 30 November 2007 04:38:13 Chris Little wrote: Stripping extraneous whitespace before/after a line is correct behavior. It should re-insert a newline after each line, also. There might be some bugs in the render filters. I'll take a look at the filters when I get some time, but in general we do want to strip unnecessary characters. I've checked by running osis2mod without compression and examining its output, and this utility is definitely at fault. I've done some more checking, trying to add whitespace at the *end* of the line, and it still doesn't work -- you simply can't break a sentence up over multiple lines without words getting merged. If I replace all newlines in the XML with spaces, then it is fine. Luke -- My middle name is 'Organised'! My first name is 'Poorly'. Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries - new module
On Friday 30 November 2007 17:19:16 Barry Drake wrote: Hi there Luke Plant wrote: The module strips out everything that isn't commentary, including Calvin's latin translation of the text and all the forewords and indexes -- I think that is better, for now at least. Sorry to be pedantic - and personally I'm not in the least worried whether the Latin is in or out, but I thought I ought to mention that the Latin version is from Jerome's Vulgate, which was around a very long time before Calvin was a twinkle in his dad's eye. The translator's preface for Calvin's commentary on Genesis says that the Latin is Calvin's own translation, which was probably based on work by Leo Juda. Certainly a quick comparison to the Vulgate shows that it differs quite significantly, at least in the two passages that I picked at random (Genesis 1 and Jeremiah 1). What made you say it was from the Vulgate? Luke -- Mediocrity: It takes a lot less time, and most people don't realise until it's too late. (despair.com) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries - new module
On Friday 30 November 2007 04:38:13 Chris Little wrote: Stripping extraneous whitespace before/after a line is correct behavior. It should re-insert a newline after each line, also. There might be some bugs in the render filters. I'll take a look at the filters when I get some time, but in general we do want to strip unnecessary characters. I've checked by running osis2mod without compression and examining its output, and this utility is definitely at fault. Fragment of input XML, with line break after 'when' and leading whitespace on the next line: p...the serpent was not eloquent by nature, but when Satan, by divine permission... Result in output of osis2mod: ...the serpent was not eloquent by nature, but whenSatan, by divine permission... No line break is inserted. Apart from this and some other small issues I'm addressing at the moment, the module is ready for public testing. Regards, Luke -- Mediocrity: It takes a lot less time, and most people don't realise until it's too late. (despair.com) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] Calvin's Commentaries - new module
Hi all, I've created a module that combines all of Calvin's commentaries. It is an OSIS module, which I've generated from CCEL's ThML sources, using XSLT and various python scripts etc. osis2mod doesn't yet support OSIS commentaries very well (it requires them to be marked up like Bibles), so, after some messing around, I've added a stage into the scripts to 'versify' the OSIS -- hopefully that will be removed at some point. All my scripts etc. are in the swordtools Subversion repository. For the end result, see: http://lukeplant.me.uk/misc/sword/calvinscommentaries.versified.osis.bz2 http://lukeplant.me.uk/misc/sword/calvinscommentaries.conf It's working quite nicely on my machine :-) To generate the module from sources, you will need to look in the swordtools repository: http://crosswire.org/svn/modules/calvinscommentaries Have a look at the README. (BTW, current build scripts don't clean up after themselves very well, to make debugging easier, so you will end up with 300 Mb of stuff in a folder 'build'). You will also need the CCEL sources -- for your convenience, you can download them here: http://lukeplant.me.uk/misc/sword/calcom_sources.tar.bz2 I haven't checked this thoroughly by any means, and I've run out of time to do any more work on it for a while, but it should provide a pretty solid basis. The module strips out everything that isn't commentary, including Calvin's latin translation of the text and all the forewords and indexes -- I think that is better, for now at least. One thing I have noticed, and I think it is a bug with osis2mod -- where a line starts with whitespace, all the leading whitespace is removed, which means that if the line before didn't end with whitespace, two words now get joined together. For an example, search for eloquent by nature, but when in calvinscommentaries.versified.osis, and see the corresponding words in Gen 3:1, where you will find whenSatan. This occurs quite a lot, it would be good to get it fixed before releasing the module to the public. Regards, Luke -- Mediocrity: It takes a lot less time, and most people don't realise until it's too late. (despair.com) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's commentaries, and ThML to OSIS conversion
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 17:55:08 DM Smith wrote: Yes right now osis2mod expects commentaries to be encoded as a Bible. This is not the way it should be. I guess I'm the owner of osis2mod since I touched it last :) Anyway, I should have some free time in the middle of August to take a look at upgrading it to handle properly encoded commentaries. Please remind me around then. That's great, I will remind you later. For anyone else who is interested, the complete commentary in OSIS format (bzipped) is now here: http://lukeplant.me.uk/misc/sword/calvinscommentaries.osis.bz2 (it may require a bit more work, but it is at least valid OSIS in about the right structure you would expect for a commentary, and almost lossless from the ThML apart from header information I think). Once I get access to the subversion repository, I'll upload my conversion scripts there. Regards, Luke -- The first ten million years were the worst. And the second ten million, they were the worst too. The third ten million, I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline. (Marvin the paranoid android) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] Calvin's commentaries, and ThML to OSIS conversion
Hi all, I've been trying to create a Sword module containing all of Calvin's commentaries, using the ThML sources from CCEL. I've made good progress, and some of my work should be reusable for other projects. I've read that Sword is trying to move away from ThML to OSIS, so the module will be an OSIS module. I've been careful to remove any manual editing, so that everything can be generated automatically from the ThML (in case of any updates to the the sources). The main steps are: 1) Make some corrections to the ThML (use of scripCom tag in particular) - DONE (implemented using Python script) 2) Combine all the ThML files into a single ThML source - DONE (Python) 3) Convert to OSIS. I've done this using XSLT, and I'm intending to release my thml2osis.xslt as a separate project. It is about 90% done (at least in terms of translating Calvin's Commentaries), and has tests and so on. It should be a useful and portable utility for converting other CCEL sources. (The test suite is currently executed using unix tools, which would be a problem for Windows developers.) 4) Import as a Sword module. The problem here is that osis2mod is basically for importing Bibles only -- it expects you to use div type=book, div type=chapter (or chapter) and verse. These are not really natural or semantic ways to mark up a commentary. A more obvious and natural way to do it is like this: div type=section annotateType=commentary annotateRef=Bible:Gen.1.1pBlah blah.../p/div I do actually have a Python script which converts this markup to the that expected by osis2mod, but it uses DOM, and memory usage for the 45 Mb input OSIS file is prohibitive. Anyway, I think creating a version of osis2mod for commentaries is the better way to handle this (I did find an old message in sword-devel saying that an importer would be written if OSIS commentaries were provided). I would write the osis2mod modifications myself, but I've looked at osis2mod and the main function that needs modifying, handleToken(), is a bit of a beast -- about 400 lines, about 20 local variables etc. I'm not confident enough with Sword to be able to refactor it properly, and I don't want to do large amounts of copy and paste. So, is someone willing to help out with this final step? Also, is there a place where I should release this stuff? I think Sword needs a 'sword contrib' project, or at least a section on the wiki that details how to get these different things. I get the impression that the main Sword developers have various scripts to help them, and a central repository for these kinds of tools would be very helpful. A Bazaar repository would probably be ideal -- I could put up a publically readable one for my stuff. Regards, Luke -- Sometimes I wonder if men and women really suit each other. Perhaps they should live next door and just visit now and then. (Katherine Hepburn) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's commentaries, and ThML to OSIS conversion
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 17:06:44 Barry Drake wrote: I was surprised to read this as I have a Sword module of Calvin's commentary. I can't remember how I aquired it but assume that it was from the Crosswire download site. Hmm, I'd certainly be interested in that -- it doesn't seem to be here: http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModDisp.jsp?modType=Commentaries or available from the BibleTime download manager. Luke -- Sometimes I wonder if men and women really suit each other. Perhaps they should live next door and just visit now and then. (Katherine Hepburn) Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Internal links in ThML modules
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:52:43 -0400, Karl Kleinpaste [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Luke Plant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In summary, can anyone point me to example ThML sources for commentaries and general books, in the form immediately before conversion to Sword modules? e.g. MHC and Calvin's Institutes would be good. Perhaps what you can use is mod2imp SomeModule SomeModule.imp. Thanks, but it doesn't restore the whole thing. I'm really looking for the bits which are *not* restored by doing this - especially anchors, ids, names and so on. My problem is I have ThML sources for general books and commentaries, and want to convert them to Sword modules. The thing that is especially difficult is how the ids and names etc in anchors get converted into references that Sword uses -- the internal a links in the modules I'm importing do not work once I've imported them into Sword. I'm using BibleTime to test, and know that the internal links in 'Institutes' do work, but I can't get the sources to see how this has been achieved. I have a similar problem with getting commentaries to work -- the ThML sources have correct scripCom tags, but the imported module appears empty when imported as a commentary. Does no-one have copies of the exact sources used to generate the 'Institutes' or 'Luther' modules, or an exact description of the process used to turn them into Sword modules? That would be the quickest way to solve my problem. I simply talk about what I've produced here, and I keep my own module repository populated with them. OK, thanks. On this page: http://crosswire.org/sword/develop/swordmodule/ it says you should e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], which has not worked for me. Luke -- Luke Plant - L.Plant.98 at cantab.net ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Internal links in ThML modules
Bump! In summary, can anyone point me to example ThML sources for commentaries and general books, in the form immediately before conversion to Sword modules? e.g. MHC and Calvin's Institutes would be good. I was hoping initially that you could do the reverse of xml2mod, but this doesn't seem to be case, especially when the modules are compressed. Also, does anyone know whom I'm supposed to contact about adding new modules to Sword? I e-mailed the address given on the website, but got no reply (starting to feel I'm invisible...) Thanks, Luke -- I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed. (Marvin the paranoid android) Luke Plant || L.Plant.98 (at) cantab.net || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] New Website, Changes and HowTo
Dave- PHP has been on web servers longer than JSP has. Are you talking about your personal knowledge of PHP in relation to other scripting languages? -Luke - Original Message - From: David Overcash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:25 PM Subject: RE: [sword-devel] New Website, Changes and HowTo I can't recall why we decided on .JSPs... I personally prefer PHP / HTML but PHP is fairly new so it is taking a while to catch on... You would have to ask Troy or Chris, or Jonathan -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Timothy R. Butler Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 4:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New Website, Changes and HowTo Hi, 1: If anyone is familiar with the APACHE web server, I am installing it on my computer to test out the .jsp pages... Are there any particular plug-ins I need to add in order to view .jsp files locally w/ APACHE installed? I was just curious, is there a reason you are using jsp's? I've had very good success with HTML w/ SSI's and Perl for accomplishing most things, and APACHE works out of the box with SSI's... Sorry to poke my head in, but I just had to ask. :-) In Christ, Tim -- - Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm Free/Open Source Web Tools:http://www.uninetsolutions.com Christian Portal and Search Tool:http://www.faithtree.com == Christian Web Services Since 1996 ==
Re: [sword-devel] Problem building last CVS snapshot of Sword with GCC 3.0
Hello, I was able to take care of alot of the sword error messages while compiling by manually adding utilstr.o to libsword.a The line I used to do this was... ar crs /home/luke/bibletime/sword/lib/libsword.a /home/luke/bibletime/sword/src/utilfuns/utilstr.o However I am still getting some errors while compiling: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/luke/bibletime/sword/tests' gcc -I../include/ -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -pipe -Wall -Wno-format -pedantic -pedantic -fomit-frame-pointer -ggdb -O2 -DUSBINARY -march=athlon -mcpu=athlon -o keytest keytest.cpp -L../lib/ -lsword -lstdc++ -lz ../lib//libsword.a(versekey.o): In function `VerseKey::ParseVerseList(char const*, char const*, bool)': /home/luke/bibletime/sword/src/keys/../../include/swobject.h:29: undefined reference to `stricmp(char const*, char const*)' /home/luke/bibletime/sword/src/keys/../../include/swobject.h:29: undefined reference to `stricmp(char const*, char const*)' ../lib//libsword.a(swmgr.o): In function `SWMgr::CreateMod(std::string, std::string, multimapwithdefaultstd::string, std::string, std::lessstd::string )': /usr/include/g++-v3/bits/basic_string.h:714: undefined reference to `stricmp(char const*, char const*)' /usr/include/g++-v3/bits/basic_string.h:714: undefined reference to `stricmp(char const*, char const*)' /usr/include/g++-v3/bits/basic_string.h:714: undefined reference to `stricmp(char const*, char const*)' ../lib//libsword.a(swmgr.o):/usr/include/g++-v3/bits/basic_string.h:714: more undefined references to `stricmp(char const*, char const*)' follow collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [keytest] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/luke/bibletime/sword/tests' make: *** [tests/targets] Error 2 The part that is failing is the linker, which means that the compiler knows where to find the function defination for stricmp() but the linker does not know where to find the actual code(normally in a .cpp file). I think this can be resolved by adding whatever object file the function stricmp is in to libsword.a however I do not know where stricmp is defined. Also, users who compile sword should not have to do these things manually, all of these things should be taken care of in a Makefile. Luke On Thursday 21 June 2001 11:46 pm, you wrote: Luke, Thanks for testing on 3.0. stdstr is one of ours. Should be in sword/include somewhere (utilstr.h I think). Hope this helps. Let me know if this included doesn't seem to be getting included correctly. -Troy. Luke Mauldin wrote: Hello I recently installed GCC 3.0 and the latest release of binutils and I attempted to build sword. I got ALOT of errors. They are posted below. One specific one, the inability to find stdstr(), I looked for stdstr in every string related file on my system, both included in the GCC 3.0 and glibc 2.2.3 and still could not find any function by that name. If anyone could enlighten me or help me with these errors, I would be very thankful. gcc -I../include/ -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -pipe -Wall -Wno-format -pedantic -pedantic -fomit-frame-pointer -ggdb -O2 -DUSBINARY -march=athlon -mcpu=athlon -o keytest keytest.cpp -L../lib/ -lsword -lstdc++ -lz ../lib//libsword.a(swkey.o): In function `SWKey::SWKey(char const*)': /home/luke/bibletime/sword/src/keys/swkey.cpp:26: undefined reference to `stdstr(char**, char const*)' ../lib//libsword.a(swkey.o): In function `SWKey::SWKey(char const*)': /home/luke/bibletime/sword/src/keys/swkey.cpp:26: undefined reference to `stdstr(char**, char const*)' ../lib//libsword.a(swkey.o): In function `SWKey::SWKey(SWKey const)': /home/luke/bibletime/sword/src/keys/swkey.cpp:36: undefined reference to `stdstr(char**, char const*)' ../lib//libsword.a(swkey.o): In function `SWKey::SWKey(SWKey const)': /home/luke/bibletime/sword/src/keys/swkey.cpp:36: undefined reference to `stdstr(char**, char const*)' ../lib//libsword.a(swkey.o): In function `SWKey::operator=(char const*)': /home/luke/bibletime/sword/src/keys/swkey.cpp:116: undefined reference to `stdstr(char**, char const*)' ../lib//libsword.a(swkey.o):/home/luke/bibletime/sword/src/keys/swkey.cpp :131: more undefined references to `stdstr(char**, char const*)' follow ../lib//libsword.a(versekey.o): In function `VerseKey::getBookAbbrev(char*)': /home/luke/bibletime/sword/src/keys/versekey.cpp:291: undefined reference to `strstrip(char*)' ../lib//libsword.a(versekey.o): In function `VerseKey::ParseVerseList(char const*, char const*, bool)': /home/luke/bibletime/sword/src/keys/../../include/swobject.h:29: undefined reference to `stricmp(char const*, char const*)' /home/luke/bibletime/sword/src/keys/../../include/swobject.h:29: undefined reference to `stricmp(char const*, char const*)' ../lib//libsword.a(localemgr.o): In function `LocaleMgr::setDefaultLocaleName(char const*)': /home/luke/bibletime/sword/src/mgr/localemgr.cpp:180: undefined
