Re: [sword-devel] Bishop to-do list

[Tobias Klein]

Hi Cyrille,

I understand where you're coming from in terms of user needs.

Merging is something that would technically not be that easy due to 
different technologies ... it would rather mean re-developing features, 
or re-developing the app entirely.
And that is a lot of work, that one would first needs to commit to do 
(the author ... and potentially their family!!).


A pre-requisite would be alignment about goals / objectives / purpose. I 
believe we currently address slightly different goals / objectives / 
purpose with the existing set of apps.


Maybe, one day, there will be a "window of opportunity" that enables 
such a joint development.
The thing with open source is, that not everyone spends the same amount 
of time on it during the same time period.
One person may have more time now, another person more time two years 
from now ...
Also, people often stick to the technology they are used to from their 
professional life because then they do not have to repeat the learning 
curve from scratch.


What I can tell you is that right now I wouldn't have the time for 
re-developing an app or re-starting a learning curve on different 
technology.
I did have the time a few years ago when I started Ezra Bible App as an 
Electron app. And I'm ok to keep maintaining it. But re-developing is 
another story in terms of time and effort needed for that.


Best regards,
Tobias

On 10/28/23 11:57 AM, Fr Cyrille wrote:

lHello Friends,
I may be saying something heresy, but I'll try anyway. To begin with, 
I'd like to thank Troy and Tuomas for their beautiful apps, as well as 
Tobias, for all their hard work.

Personally, I use Bishop and Andbible, but I intend to test Esra as well.
That's what I'm thinking about. It's a lot of work to code, and there 
aren't many of you. Wouldn't it be useful to merge the projects?
Here's my case in point. I use Anbible for almost everything, except 
for what bishop offers that Andbible doesn't have:


  * Daily devotional
  * the parallel passage of the Gospels with the modules of Eusebius
of Caesarea, a really good tool.
  *  And even if I don't use it, but access to the original
manuscripts is a great tool too.

So there are three things I think Andbible lacks to be perfect, which 
I've just described.
So would it be possible, rather than creating a new program, to simply 
(it may not be simple at all, pardon me for being a philistine) 
integrate these strengths of bishop into Andbible, and thus have an 
ultra-complete app?


Just a question/suggestion...

Br Cyrille

Le 28/10/2023 à 10:08, Peter von Kaehne a écrit :
As you are at it… I never reported it but Bishop crashes reliably 
during all word searches on iPhones. At least on mine. Both Bishop 
and the Capuchinhos version.


Peter

Sent from my phone. Please forgive misspellings and weird “corrections”

On 28 Oct 2023, at 01:49, Troy A. Griffitts  
wrote:



Hi Michael. I've not had any reports of that nor seen it. Could you 
give me more info. I can pull up an emulator to match your setup and 
try to reproduce.



On October 27, 2023 17:18:43 MST, Michael Johnson 
 wrote:


The biggest thing I would like is more stability.

Last time I used Bishop on my Android phone, it crashed every
time I tried to tap the pull-down list to add a second in the
parallel list.

On 10/27/23 09:09, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:


Hey guys,

I just wanted to post here this random list of things I intend
to update for the next version of Bishop.  If anyone is
interested in helping or giving ideas, I would love collaborators.

**

*Bishop todo*

*

 *

Space between verse number and first character of text for
better copy and paste

 *

Help users know when they should add modules: in commentary
view [Install More Commentaries], strong lex, daily
devotional, gen book view, etc.

 *

Option to migrate data files to different locations.

 *

Option to add augment folders from other apps.

 *

See if there is a way to select down a column for selection
of multiple verses when in parallel view.

 *

Option to backup and restore notes, modules, and bookmarks,
Google drive?

 *

Bookmark tree, maybe from BibleCS

 *

ECM preload test and enable menu on Verse Study selection

 *

Manuscripts main menu option and integrate the mobile NTVMR
functionality.

 *

Option to turn on other VMR sites, like CoptOT, Vetus
Latina, etc.

 *

Some visualization for RB

 *

At a glance with a gradient color percentage, over max
witnesses cell (John 18?)

 *

Toggle to pannable grid view with locked 1st row/column.
Find a nice grid control.

 *

Ship INTF current data for RB, show date of data

 *

Tab to show INTF work progress bar chart along with button

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop to-do list

[Fr Cyrille]

lHello Friends,
I may be saying something heresy, but I'll try anyway. To begin with, 
I'd like to thank Troy and Tuomas for their beautiful apps, as well as 
Tobias, for all their hard work.

Personally, I use Bishop and Andbible, but I intend to test Esra as well.
That's what I'm thinking about. It's a lot of work to code, and there 
aren't many of you. Wouldn't it be useful to merge the projects?
Here's my case in point. I use Anbible for almost everything, except for 
what bishop offers that Andbible doesn't have:


 * Daily devotional
 * the parallel passage of the Gospels with the modules of Eusebius of
   Caesarea, a really good tool.
 *   And even if I don't use it, but access to the original manuscripts
   is a great tool too.

So there are three things I think Andbible lacks to be perfect, which 
I've just described.
So would it be possible, rather than creating a new program, to simply 
(it may not be simple at all, pardon me for being a philistine) 
integrate these strengths of bishop into Andbible, and thus have an 
ultra-complete app?


Just a question/suggestion...

Br Cyrille

Le 28/10/2023 à 10:08, Peter von Kaehne a écrit :
As you are at it… I never reported it but Bishop crashes reliably 
during all word searches on iPhones. At least on mine. Both Bishop and 
the Capuchinhos version.


Peter

Sent from my phone. Please forgive misspellings and weird “corrections”


On 28 Oct 2023, at 01:49, Troy A. Griffitts  wrote:


Hi Michael. I've not had any reports of that nor seen it. Could you 
give me more info. I can pull up an emulator to match your setup and 
try to reproduce.



On October 27, 2023 17:18:43 MST, Michael Johnson 
 wrote:


The biggest thing I would like is more stability.

Last time I used Bishop on my Android phone, it crashed every
time I tried to tap the pull-down list to add a second in the
parallel list.

On 10/27/23 09:09, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:


Hey guys,

I just wanted to post here this random list of things I intend
to update for the next version of Bishop.  If anyone is
interested in helping or giving ideas, I would love collaborators.

**

*Bishop todo*

*

 *

Space between verse number and first character of text for
better copy and paste

 *

Help users know when they should add modules: in commentary
view [Install More Commentaries], strong lex, daily
devotional, gen book view, etc.

 *

Option to migrate data files to different locations.

 *

Option to add augment folders from other apps.

 *

See if there is a way to select down a column for selection
of multiple verses when in parallel view.

 *

Option to backup and restore notes, modules, and bookmarks,
Google drive?

 *

Bookmark tree, maybe from BibleCS

 *

ECM preload test and enable menu on Verse Study selection

 *

Manuscripts main menu option and integrate the mobile NTVMR
functionality.

 *

Option to turn on other VMR sites, like CoptOT, Vetus
Latina, etc.

 *

Some visualization for RB

 *

At a glance with a gradient color percentage, over max
witnesses cell (John 18?)

 *

Toggle to pannable grid view with locked 1st row/column.
Find a nice grid control.

 *

Ship INTF current data for RB, show date of data

 *

Tab to show INTF work progress bar chart along with button
to update RB data.

 *

Google Maps integration for manuscripts.

 *

Simple indexing tool.

 *

VMR Login credentials.

 *

Update to best Hebrew and Greek lexicons.

 *

Add "show NT usage" to lexicon entry.

 *

See if there is a Perseus option to facilitate a "show extra
Biblical usage."

 *

See if we can delay load image thumbnails on demand/scroll.

 *

Language assist, 3 panel. Add bottom panel with current
verse of 2nd selected Bible and sync word highlighting with
dictionary scroll and primary Bible.

*

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Re: [sword-devel] Bishop to-do list

[Peter von Kaehne]

As you are at it… I never reported it but Bishop crashes reliably during all word searches on iPhones. At least on mine. Both Bishop and the Capuchinhos version. PeterSent from my phone. Please forgive misspellings and weird “corrections”On 28 Oct 2023, at 01:49, Troy A. Griffitts  wrote:

  

  
  Hi Michael. I've not had any reports of that nor seen it. Could you give me more info. I can pull up an emulator to match your setup and try to reproduce.On October 27, 2023 17:18:43 MST, Michael Johnson  wrote:

The biggest thing I would like is more stability.
Last time I used Bishop on my Android phone, it crashed every
  time I tried to tap the pull-down list to add a second in the
  parallel list.

On 10/27/23 09:09, Troy A. Griffitts
  wrote:


  
  Hey guys,
  I just wanted to post here this random list of things I intend
to update for the next version of Bishop.  If anyone is
interested in helping or giving ideas, I would love
collaborators.
  
  

  Bishop todo
   

  Space between verse number and first character of text for better copy and paste
  Help users know when they should add modules: in commentary view [Install More Commentaries], strong lex, daily devotional, gen book view, etc.
  Option to migrate data files to different locations.
  Option to add augment folders from other apps.
  See if there is a way to select down a column for selection of multiple verses when in parallel view.
  Option to backup and restore notes, modules, and bookmarks, Google drive?
  Bookmark tree, maybe from BibleCS
  ECM preload test and enable menu on Verse Study selection
  Manuscripts main menu option and integrate the mobile NTVMR functionality.
  Option to turn on other VMR sites, like CoptOT, Vetus Latina, etc.
  Some visualization for RB


  At a glance with a gradient color percentage, over max witnesses cell (John 18?)
  Toggle to pannable grid view with locked 1st row/column. Find a nice grid control.
  Ship INTF current data for RB, show date of data
  Tab to show INTF work progress bar chart along with button to update RB data.


  Google Maps integration for manuscripts.
  Simple indexing tool.
  VMR Login credentials.
  Update to best Hebrew and Greek lexicons.
  Add "show NT usage" to lexicon entry.
  See if there is a Perseus option to facilitate a "show extra Biblical usage."
  See if we can delay load image thumbnails on demand/scroll.
  Language assist, 3 panel. Add bottom panel with current verse of 2nd selected Bible and sync word highlighting with dictionary scroll and primary Bible.

   
  
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Re: [sword-devel] Bishop to-do list

[Troy A. Griffitts]

Hi Michael. I've not had any reports of that nor seen it. Could you give me 
more info. I can pull up an emulator to match your setup and try to reproduce.

On October 27, 2023 17:18:43 MST, Michael Johnson  wrote:
>The biggest thing I would like is more stability.
>
>Last time I used Bishop on my Android phone, it crashed every time I tried to 
>tap the pull-down list to add a second in the parallel list.
>
>On 10/27/23 09:09, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> I just wanted to post here this random list of things I intend to update for 
>> the next version of Bishop.  If anyone is interested in helping or giving 
>> ideas, I would love collaborators.
>> 
>> **
>> 
>> *Bishop todo*
>> 
>> *
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Space between verse number and first character of text for better
>> copy and paste
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Help users know when they should add modules: in commentary view
>> [Install More Commentaries], strong lex, daily devotional, gen
>> book view, etc.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Option to migrate data files to different locations.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Option to add augment folders from other apps.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> See if there is a way to select down a column for selection of
>> multiple verses when in parallel view.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Option to backup and restore notes, modules, and bookmarks, Google
>> drive?
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Bookmark tree, maybe from BibleCS
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> ECM preload test and enable menu on Verse Study selection
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Manuscripts main menu option and integrate the mobile NTVMR
>> functionality.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Option to turn on other VMR sites, like CoptOT, Vetus Latina, etc.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Some visualization for RB
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> At a glance with a gradient color percentage, over max witnesses
>> cell (John 18?)
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Toggle to pannable grid view with locked 1st row/column. Find a
>> nice grid control.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Ship INTF current data for RB, show date of data
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Tab to show INTF work progress bar chart along with button to
>> update RB data.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Google Maps integration for manuscripts.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Simple indexing tool.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> VMR Login credentials.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Update to best Hebrew and Greek lexicons.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Add "show NT usage" to lexicon entry.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> See if there is a Perseus option to facilitate a "show extra
>> Biblical usage."
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> See if we can delay load image thumbnails on demand/scroll.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Language assist, 3 panel. Add bottom panel with current verse of
>> 2nd selected Bible and sync word highlighting with dictionary
>> scroll and primary Bible.
>> 
>> *
>> 
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Re: [sword-devel] Bishop to-do list

[Michael Johnson]

The biggest thing I would like is more stability.

Last time I used Bishop on my Android phone, it crashed every time I 
tried to tap the pull-down list to add a second in the parallel list.


On 10/27/23 09:09, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:


Hey guys,

I just wanted to post here this random list of things I intend to 
update for the next version of Bishop.  If anyone is interested in 
helping or giving ideas, I would love collaborators.


**

*Bishop todo*

*

 *

Space between verse number and first character of text for better
copy and paste

 *

Help users know when they should add modules: in commentary view
[Install More Commentaries], strong lex, daily devotional, gen
book view, etc.

 *

Option to migrate data files to different locations.

 *

Option to add augment folders from other apps.

 *

See if there is a way to select down a column for selection of
multiple verses when in parallel view.

 *

Option to backup and restore notes, modules, and bookmarks, Google
drive?

 *

Bookmark tree, maybe from BibleCS

 *

ECM preload test and enable menu on Verse Study selection

 *

Manuscripts main menu option and integrate the mobile NTVMR
functionality.

 *

Option to turn on other VMR sites, like CoptOT, Vetus Latina, etc.

 *

Some visualization for RB

 *

At a glance with a gradient color percentage, over max witnesses
cell (John 18?)

 *

Toggle to pannable grid view with locked 1st row/column. Find a
nice grid control.

 *

Ship INTF current data for RB, show date of data

 *

Tab to show INTF work progress bar chart along with button to
update RB data.

 *

Google Maps integration for manuscripts.

 *

Simple indexing tool.

 *

VMR Login credentials.

 *

Update to best Hebrew and Greek lexicons.

 *

Add "show NT usage" to lexicon entry.

 *

See if there is a Perseus option to facilitate a "show extra
Biblical usage."

 *

See if we can delay load image thumbnails on demand/scroll.

 *

Language assist, 3 panel. Add bottom panel with current verse of
2nd selected Bible and sync word highlighting with dictionary
scroll and primary Bible.

*

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[sword-devel] Bishop to-do list

[Troy A. Griffitts]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to post here this random list of things I intend to update 
for the next version of Bishop.  If anyone is interested in helping or 
giving ideas, I would love collaborators.


**

*Bishop todo*

*

 *

   Space between verse number and first character of text for better
   copy and paste

 *

   Help users know when they should add modules: in commentary view
   [Install More Commentaries], strong lex, daily devotional, gen book
   view, etc.

 *

   Option to migrate data files to different locations.

 *

   Option to add augment folders from other apps.

 *

   See if there is a way to select down a column for selection of
   multiple verses when in parallel view.

 *

   Option to backup and restore notes, modules, and bookmarks, Google
   drive?

 *

   Bookmark tree, maybe from BibleCS

 *

   ECM preload test and enable menu on Verse Study selection

 *

   Manuscripts main menu option and integrate the mobile NTVMR
   functionality.

 *

   Option to turn on other VMR sites, like CoptOT, Vetus Latina, etc.

 *

   Some visualization for RB

 *

   At a glance with a gradient color percentage, over max witnesses
   cell (John 18?)

 *

   Toggle to pannable grid view with locked 1st row/column. Find a nice
   grid control.

 *

   Ship INTF current data for RB, show date of data

 *

   Tab to show INTF work progress bar chart along with button to update
   RB data.

 *

   Google Maps integration for manuscripts.

 *

   Simple indexing tool.

 *

   VMR Login credentials.

 *

   Update to best Hebrew and Greek lexicons.

 *

   Add "show NT usage" to lexicon entry.

 *

   See if there is a Perseus option to facilitate a "show extra
   Biblical usage."

 *

   See if we can delay load image thumbnails on demand/scroll.

 *

   Language assist, 3 panel. Add bottom panel with current verse of 2nd
   selected Bible and sync word highlighting with dictionary scroll and
   primary Bible.

*
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