Re: [sword-devel] ISV Bible

2022-08-17 Thread Fr Cyrille 
Ok thank you for all this information. For now I will work on the isv 
2.1 (the epub). I already convert it to html). Someone knows about the 
copyright status? In the conf I read that Crosswire received the 
permission to use it.


Le 17/08/2022 à 04:24, Samuel Smith a écrit :

On 8/16/22 12:42, Michael H wrote:
Can you say any more about the authors and who has passed and who 
remains, and what contact you did attempt?


On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 12:02 PM Samuel Smith > wrote:


    Now most of the authors havepassed away in the last two years so not
    sure of the project status.


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The ISV foundation was made up of:
(from 
https://web.archive.org/web/20160626223056/https://www.isv.org/bible/about-us/)


William Welty
Obituary: 
https://www.facebook.com/KoinoniaHouse/posts/dr-william-welty-passed-from-this-life-into-glory-july-11-2019-1952-2019-he-was-/2835424499805302/


Chuck Missler
Obituary: https://www.khouse.org/in-memory-of-chuck-missler/

George Giacumakis
Obituary: https://news.fullerton.edu/2019/04/george-giacumakis/

I did not know about William Welty or the ISV until I randomly heard 
about it from a youtube video back in 2016: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scYlscgRvnk where he briefly described 
his work on the ISV. It seemed interesting and I wanted a hard copy of 
the ISV and would check the website (isv.org) a few times per year as 
it always stated a hard copy would be available "next year". Then I 
noticed a /downloads url was open to the public on isv.org 
(https://web.archive.org/web/20190414120747/https://www.isv.org/downloads/) 
This is where the files I posted came from. I had it on my personal 
todo list to email the ISV foundation and see if they needed any 
volunteer help with anything, but before I ever got around to that, 
the website went offline. I could not find any email addresses for 
William Welty other than ones that ended in "isv.org". From there I 
found a few public emails from the original translators and emailed 
them about the project's status, but the answers I got were mostly of 
the "I don't know" category.


Regards,
Samuel Smith

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Re: [sword-devel] ISV Bible

2022-08-16 Thread Samuel Smith 

On 8/16/22 12:42, Michael H wrote:
Can you say any more about the authors and who has passed and who 
remains, and what contact you did attempt?


On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 12:02 PM Samuel Smith > wrote:


Now most of the authors havepassed away in the last two years so not
sure of the project status.


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The ISV foundation was made up of:
(from 
https://web.archive.org/web/20160626223056/https://www.isv.org/bible/about-us/)


William Welty
Obituary: 
https://www.facebook.com/KoinoniaHouse/posts/dr-william-welty-passed-from-this-life-into-glory-july-11-2019-1952-2019-he-was-/2835424499805302/


Chuck Missler
Obituary: https://www.khouse.org/in-memory-of-chuck-missler/

George Giacumakis
Obituary: https://news.fullerton.edu/2019/04/george-giacumakis/

I did not know about William Welty or the ISV until I randomly heard 
about it from a youtube video back in 2016: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scYlscgRvnk where he briefly described 
his work on the ISV. It seemed interesting and I wanted a hard copy of 
the ISV and would check the website (isv.org) a few times per year as it 
always stated a hard copy would be available "next year". Then I noticed 
a /downloads url was open to the public on isv.org 
(https://web.archive.org/web/20190414120747/https://www.isv.org/downloads/) 
This is where the files I posted came from. I had it on my personal todo 
list to email the ISV foundation and see if they needed any volunteer 
help with anything, but before I ever got around to that, the website 
went offline. I could not find any email addresses for William Welty 
other than ones that ended in "isv.org". From there I found a few public 
emails from the original translators and emailed them about the 
project's status, but the answers I got were mostly of the "I don't 
know" category.


Regards,
Samuel Smith

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Re: [sword-devel] ISV Bible

2022-08-16 Thread Michael H 
Can you say any more about the authors and who has passed and who remains,
and what contact you did attempt?

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 12:02 PM Samuel Smith  wrote:

> Now most of the authors have passed away in the last two years so not
> sure of the project status.
>
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Re: [sword-devel] ISV Bible

2022-08-16 Thread Samuel Smith 

On 8/15/22 12:43, Fr Cyrille wrote:

Hi,
I would like to rebuild the ISV module. But the source text is no longer 
available. The only place I could possibly download it is 
https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/International-Standard-Version-ISV-Bible. 
Does anyone have a source text or a way to contact the owners of this 
translation? I will eventually convert it with mod2osis to save the text.


Br Cyrille

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I downloaded quite a bit of data from isv.org right before it went 
offline. My plan was to update the sword version as well but I never 
could get in contact with the authors. Now most of the authors have 
passed away in the last two years so not sure of the project status. It 
is probably not in the right format and would probably need to be parsed 
and extracted but this is what I have: https://tinyurl.com/3hnjzfpn



Regards,
Samuel Smith
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Re: [sword-devel] ISV Bible

2022-08-16 Thread Fr Cyrille 



Le 16/08/2022 à 11:23, David Haslam a écrit :

Hi Cyrille,

Have you tried the Wayback Machine for snapshots of isv.org before the 
domain registration lapsed?


Yes. It's always my first shoot for an old module.


btw. The ISV is also online at BibleHub though probably not without 
licensing restrictions.

cf. Bible Gateway has safeguards against bulk capture of data.

Aside: The CrossWire ISV module is NT only.

NB. Sword utility mod2osis is not lossless. It’s preferable to use 
mod2imp to export the module content.


Yes, I was thinking about mod2imp sorry! I have a scritp to convert the 
imp to usfm files.
But now the text from Michael, it's really better. We'll have all the 
bible soon.


David

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On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 18:43, Fr Cyrille  
wrote:

Hi,
I would like to rebuild the ISV module. But the source text is no 
longer available. The only place I could possibly download it is 
https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/International-Standard-Version-ISV-Bible. 
Does anyone have a source text or a way to contact the owners of this 
translation? I will eventually convert it with mod2osis to save the text.


Br Cyrille


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[sword-devel] ISV Bible

2022-08-15 Thread Fr Cyrille 

Hi,
I would like to rebuild the ISV module. But the source text is no longer 
available. The only place I could possibly download it is 
https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/International-Standard-Version-ISV-Bible. 
Does anyone have a source text or a way to contact the owners of this 
translation? I will eventually convert it with mod2osis to save the text.


Br Cyrille___
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