Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-04-20 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Jim Michaels jmich...@yahoo.com wrote:

 there is a bug in older versions of z cerain dll use4d by windows for
 compressed(zipped) folders in XP. I don't trust it. it corrupts and drops
 data according to my testing. the problem you had doesn't surprise me. it
 also doesn't handle files/archives over 2GiB. use 7-zip command-line:
 cd somedir
 7z a ..\something.zip
 or
 cd somedir
 7z a something.zip abc\*

 it has some bugs with regards to recursive directories (always on
 regardless of -r switch)

 the issue with compressed(zipped) folders seems to have been fixed in
 windows 7 AND the 2GiB limit is fixed.


The Windows implementation of Zip has nothing to do with any of the missing
files or such. All of that is handled by zlib on a Linux host.

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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-04-19 Thread Jim Michaels
there is a bug in older versions of z cerain dll use4d by windows for 
compressed(zipped) folders in XP. I don't trust it. it corrupts and drops 
data according to my testing. the problem you had doesn't surprise me. it also 
doesn't handle files/archives over 2GiB. use 7-zip command-line:
cd somedir
7z a ..\something.zip 
or
cd somedir
7z a something.zip abc\*


it has some bugs with regards to recursive directories (always on regardless of 
-r switch)

the issue with compressed(zipped) folders seems to have been fixed in windows 7 
AND the 2GiB limit is fixed.

 
-
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 From: Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org
To: sword-devel@crosswire.org 
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated
 

On 16/02/14 11:15, Steven P. Ulrick wrote:
 Turns out the modules/texts/ztext/kjv directory is empty. Then I 
 grabbed the zip file from the rawzip directory. All of the files in 
 the modules directory are zero length...

I recognise that problem from when I was helping to get the NET Bible 
into a Sword module.  I was still using Microsoft Windows at that time 
and I can't remember whether the problem was with the Windows method of 
compression or what.  I do remember having to use either mingw or Cygwin 
to run Linux tools to do the job properly - but we're talking ten years 
ago so my memory fails me.  It was all part of my departure from 
Microsoft Windows.

God bless,        Barry.


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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-21 Thread Nic Carter

David shot me a personal email about this  so it should be available now (as 
of a couple of days ago). Let me know if there are any other search issues with 
it in PS. :)

On 17 Feb 2014, at 2:01 am, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Installed by Xiphos and then indexed.
 
 However, when I then selected KJV for the first tab, Xiphos (for Windows)
 crashed!
 Must be an odd s/w glitch. After opening Xiphos again, I was able to select
 the KJV.
 
 Not yet tried any searches.
 
 Installed also with PocketSword, but the downloadable search index is not
 yet provided by Nic Carter.
 Unlike And Bible, PS does not have the feature to generate an index.
 
 David
 
 
 
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-21 Thread Nic Carter

On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:44 am, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote:

 In PocketSword, it displays all the values in the lemma field, which is 
 pretty cool to see the Greek associated with the Strong's Numbers. However it 
 thinks the Greek is a Strong's Number. These lemmas are not prefixed with 
 strong: (which indicates that it should do lookups in a Strong's dictionary), 
 but rather with lemma.TR: Indicating that they come from the TR module, which 
 is a Bible. It might be good for these to not be clickable or for them to 
 bring up the corresponding Strong's Number entry.

Thanks, noted.
I'll strive to update the pre-installed module to this new KJV once things have 
settled a bit, too. :)

Thanks for your hard work! ybic
nic...  :)
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-18 Thread David Haslam
Thanks, DM,

The message with the link didn't reach me because the mailman was down at
the time.

I'll find it easily enough once the wiki is back up.

David





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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-18 Thread Костя Маслюк
Regarding BibleTime Mini, fix was merge-requested for inclusion into
BibleTime repo. Thanks for highlighting this issue.


2014-02-16 17:44 GMT+04:00 DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org:
 I've checked BibleTime mini, PocketSword, AndBible and BibleDesktop. The 
 download works.

 In BibleTime mini, AndBible and PocketSword, the prebuilt index is not 
 available. Not surprising. Both BibleTime mini and AndBible built the Lucene 
 indexes quickly. PockeSword does not have that option and doesn't allow 
 search unless there is an index available for download. Module looked like I 
 expected.

 Built the index for BibleTIme mini. It was fairly quick. Did a search for: 
 aaron moses egypt. Expected 18 hits got 9. It was missing Exodus 6:13,26; 
 7:19; 8:5,16; 12:1; 16:6; and 1 Samuel 12:6, 8
 I don't know if this is a module problem, a app problem or a SWORD lib 
 problem.

 In PocketSword, it displays all the values in the lemma field, which is 
 pretty cool to see the Greek associated with the Strong's Numbers. However it 
 thinks the Greek is a Strong's Number. These lemmas are not prefixed with 
 strong: (which indicates that it should do lookups in a Strong's dictionary), 
 but rather with lemma.TR: Indicating that they come from the TR module, which 
 is a Bible. It might be good for these to not be clickable or for them to 
 bring up the corresponding Strong's Number entry.

 For AndBible, I encountered an error downloading. It thought the module was 
 installed, wouldn't allow it to be downloaded again and nothing worked for 
 the module. Couldn't figure out how to delete the module and reinstall it. So 
 I wacked the program, re-installed it, downloaded the KJV and indexed it. 
 Module looked like I expected.

 In Him,
 DM

 On Feb 16, 2014, at 8:02 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote:

 I think I fixed the install problem. If everyone could check again that'd be 
 great!

 There was a directory permission problem which made the files invisible to 
 FTP and HTTP. The files were there and had the right size. When the module 
 was zipped the zipping program could see the files but could not read their 
 contents.

 In Him,
   DM

 On Feb 16, 2014, at 6:15 AM, Steven P. Ulrick meow8...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 02:33:41 -0800 (PST)
 David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Likewise, in PocketSword, when I tried to replace KJV v2.5 by v2.6,
 the result was a deletion of v2.5, but without an installation.

 Same here (in Bibletime.)  Since my old KJV was deleted when I tried to
 install the new one, I manually installed it from the raw directory
 on the Crosswire FTP server.  Turns out the modules/texts/ztext/kjv
 directory is empty.  Then I grabbed the zip file from the rawzip
 directory.  All of the files in the modules directory are zero length...

 Steven P. Ulrick

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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-17 Thread David Haslam
OK, let's add a new page called KJV2014 in your user space.

I can do that, once crosswire.org is back online.  Currently...

The connection has timed out

The server at crosswire.org is taking too long to respond.

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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-17 Thread DM Smith
Yesterday, I sent you the link to the page I added.

On Feb 17, 2014, at 4:35 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote:

 OK, let's add a new page called KJV2014 in your user space.
 
 I can do that, once crosswire.org is back online.  Currently...
 
 The connection has timed out
 
 The server at crosswire.org is taking too long to respond.
 
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread David Haslam
After a repo refresh, I just tried to install KJV v2.6 using Xiphos module
manager, but I got the message Install failed.

What's up?

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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread David Haslam
Likewise, in PocketSword, when I tried to replace KJV v2.5 by v2.6, the
result was a deletion of v2.5, but without an installation.

btw. There was no install failed message from PocketSword.
Nic may wish to consider whether this is a s.w bug.

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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 02:33:41 -0800 (PST)
David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Likewise, in PocketSword, when I tried to replace KJV v2.5 by v2.6,
 the result was a deletion of v2.5, but without an installation.

Same here (in Bibletime.)  Since my old KJV was deleted when I tried to
install the new one, I manually installed it from the raw directory
on the Crosswire FTP server.  Turns out the modules/texts/ztext/kjv
directory is empty.  Then I grabbed the zip file from the rawzip
directory.  All of the files in the modules directory are zero length...

Steven P. Ulrick

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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread Barry Drake

On 16/02/14 11:15, Steven P. Ulrick wrote:
Turns out the modules/texts/ztext/kjv directory is empty. Then I 
grabbed the zip file from the rawzip directory. All of the files in 
the modules directory are zero length...


I recognise that problem from when I was helping to get the NET Bible 
into a Sword module.  I was still using Microsoft Windows at that time 
and I can't remember whether the problem was with the Windows method of 
compression or what.  I do remember having to use either mingw or Cygwin 
to run Linux tools to do the job properly - but we're talking ten years 
ago so my memory fails me.  It was all part of my departure from 
Microsoft Windows.


God bless,Barry.

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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread DM Smith
I think I fixed the install problem. If everyone could check again that'd be 
great!

There was a directory permission problem which made the files invisible to FTP 
and HTTP. The files were there and had the right size. When the module was 
zipped the zipping program could see the files but could not read their 
contents.

In Him,
DM

On Feb 16, 2014, at 6:15 AM, Steven P. Ulrick meow8...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 02:33:41 -0800 (PST)
 David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Likewise, in PocketSword, when I tried to replace KJV v2.5 by v2.6,
 the result was a deletion of v2.5, but without an installation.
 
 Same here (in Bibletime.)  Since my old KJV was deleted when I tried to
 install the new one, I manually installed it from the raw directory
 on the Crosswire FTP server.  Turns out the modules/texts/ztext/kjv
 directory is empty.  Then I grabbed the zip file from the rawzip
 directory.  All of the files in the modules directory are zero length...
 
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread DM Smith
I've checked BibleTime mini, PocketSword, AndBible and BibleDesktop. The 
download works.

In BibleTime mini, AndBible and PocketSword, the prebuilt index is not 
available. Not surprising. Both BibleTime mini and AndBible built the Lucene 
indexes quickly. PockeSword does not have that option and doesn't allow search 
unless there is an index available for download. Module looked like I expected.

Built the index for BibleTIme mini. It was fairly quick. Did a search for: 
aaron moses egypt. Expected 18 hits got 9. It was missing Exodus 6:13,26; 7:19; 
8:5,16; 12:1; 16:6; and 1 Samuel 12:6, 8
I don't know if this is a module problem, a app problem or a SWORD lib problem.

In PocketSword, it displays all the values in the lemma field, which is pretty 
cool to see the Greek associated with the Strong's Numbers. However it thinks 
the Greek is a Strong's Number. These lemmas are not prefixed with strong: 
(which indicates that it should do lookups in a Strong's dictionary), but 
rather with lemma.TR: Indicating that they come from the TR module, which is a 
Bible. It might be good for these to not be clickable or for them to bring up 
the corresponding Strong's Number entry.

For AndBible, I encountered an error downloading. It thought the module was 
installed, wouldn't allow it to be downloaded again and nothing worked for the 
module. Couldn't figure out how to delete the module and reinstall it. So I 
wacked the program, re-installed it, downloaded the KJV and indexed it. Module 
looked like I expected.

In Him,
DM

On Feb 16, 2014, at 8:02 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote:

 I think I fixed the install problem. If everyone could check again that'd be 
 great!
 
 There was a directory permission problem which made the files invisible to 
 FTP and HTTP. The files were there and had the right size. When the module 
 was zipped the zipping program could see the files but could not read their 
 contents.
 
 In Him,
   DM
 
 On Feb 16, 2014, at 6:15 AM, Steven P. Ulrick meow8...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 02:33:41 -0800 (PST)
 David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Likewise, in PocketSword, when I tried to replace KJV v2.5 by v2.6,
 the result was a deletion of v2.5, but without an installation.
 
 Same here (in Bibletime.)  Since my old KJV was deleted when I tried to
 install the new one, I manually installed it from the raw directory
 on the Crosswire FTP server.  Turns out the modules/texts/ztext/kjv
 directory is empty.  Then I grabbed the zip file from the rawzip
 directory.  All of the files in the modules directory are zero length...
 
 Steven P. Ulrick
 
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread David Haslam
Installed by Xiphos and then indexed.

However, when I then selected KJV for the first tab, Xiphos (for Windows)
crashed!
Must be an odd s/w glitch. After opening Xiphos again, I was able to select
the KJV.

Not yet tried any searches.

Installed also with PocketSword, but the downloadable search index is not
yet provided by Nic Carter.
Unlike And Bible, PS does not have the feature to generate an index.

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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread David Haslam
In BD (Win 7 x64), an all words search for aaron moses egypt gave 18 results.

So it's not the module, DM.

David



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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 02/16/2014 08:44 AM, DM Smith wrote:
 In PocketSword, it displays all the values in the lemma field, which is 
 pretty cool to see the Greek associated with the Strong's Numbers.
In Xiphos, I happened across KJV Matt 8:9, where I find odd markup at
the phrase to my servant:

w lemma=strong:G3588 strong:G1401 lemma.TR:?? lemma.TR:?
morph=robinson:T-DSM robinson:N-DSM src=24 25
type=x-split-482to/w w lemma=strong:G3450 lemma.TR:???
morph=robinson:P-1GS src=26my/w w lemma=strong:G3588
strong:G1401 lemma.TR:?? lemma.TR:? morph=robinson:T-DSM
robinson:N-DSM src=24 25 type=x-split-482servant/w

As displayed, see http://karl.kleinpaste.org/xiphos/kjv-mat.8.9-lemma.png.
For reference, see also
http://karl.kleinpaste.org/xiphos/2tgreek-mat.8.9.png

Why is the word to given markup for servant following, and
conversely servant for to?
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread David Haslam
Where will DM obtain the data for add margin notes and cross references  ?

I spoke with 'Studge' at BFBS a few weeks ago. 

He does not know of any electronic transcription of the margin notes 
references that were in the KJV from the very beginning.

The nearest in concept is what can be downloaded from openbible.info

http://www.openbible.info/blog/2010/04/bible-cross-references-visualization/

Yet this database is something mostly drawn from PD sources, especially
Treasury of Scripture Knowledge. 
It also includes data from the webmaster's Topical Bible, and Twitter Bible
Search.

AFAIK, it excludes data for margin notes.

David





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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread DM Smith
I really have no idea where to get it. It may need to be a manual effort. I'm 
not really interested in notes and cross references from other resources. The 
best I've found so far is a 1611 facsimile. That'd be a lot of work.

Same with titles.

In Him,
DM Smith

On Feb 16, 2014, at 10:55 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Where will DM obtain the data for add margin notes and cross references  ?
 
 I spoke with 'Studge' at BFBS a few weeks ago. 
 
 He does not know of any electronic transcription of the margin notes 
 references that were in the KJV from the very beginning.
 
 The nearest in concept is what can be downloaded from openbible.info
 
 http://www.openbible.info/blog/2010/04/bible-cross-references-visualization/
 
 Yet this database is something mostly drawn from PD sources, especially
 Treasury of Scripture Knowledge. 
 It also includes data from the webmaster's Topical Bible, and Twitter Bible
 Search.
 
 AFAIK, it excludes data for margin notes.
 
 David
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread David Haslam
FYI.

It will be most helpful for detailed anomalies (such as that just reported
by Karl) to be collated into the wiki page in DM's user space.

http://crosswire.org/wiki/User:Dmsmith/KJV2011

For the KJV module, this is to be preferred than adding a new tracker issue
in MOD.

Please use the relevant section of that wiki page.

Best regards,

David



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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread DM Smith
Let's use a new page. I've addressed what was on those pages. It'd be good so I 
don't get confused. Which is much easier to do these days ;)

In Him,
DM
On Feb 16, 2014, at 11:00 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote:

 FYI.
 
 It will be most helpful for detailed anomalies (such as that just reported
 by Karl) to be collated into the wiki page in DM's user space.
 
 http://crosswire.org/wiki/User:Dmsmith/KJV2011
 
 For the KJV module, this is to be preferred than adding a new tracker issue
 in MOD.
 
 Please use the relevant section of that wiki page.
 
 Best regards,
 
 David
 
 
 
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-16 Thread DM Smith
Karl,

This is a feature not a bug.

Matt 1:19 might be a better example for an explanation: 
w src=12 lemma=strong:G3856 lemma.TR:παραδειγματισαι 
morph=robinson:V-AAN type=x-split-393to make/w w src=11 
lemma=strong:G846 lemma.TR:αυτην morph=robinson:P-ASFher/w w src=12 
lemma=strong:G3856 lemma.TR:παραδειγματισαι morph=robinson:V-AAN 
type=x-split-393a publick example/w,

The verb G3856|παραδειγματισαι|V-AAN is translated to make a publick 
example but G846|αυτην|P-ASF her is put into the middle, splitting the 
verb.

The verb is marked x-split-NNN on both parts. The SwordWeb program 
(http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp) shows this well. Navigate to KJV 
Matt 1 and click on any part of to make or a publick example and the entire 
phrase translated by the Greek is highlighted. (By the way, SwordWeb is using 
an older version of the KJV module.)

This has been part of the KJV as part of the KJV2003 tagging effort. And it has 
been part of SwordWeb for a long time too. As far as I know, only SwordWeb 
makes use of this.

In Matt 8:9 mechanically would be G3588|τω|T-DSM;G1401|δουλω|N-DSMto the 
servant G3450|μου|P-1GS of me. to is indicated by the form of the 
article and the noun. That is, it is part of the those. Not some other word.
But it is better to split to the servant and make it to my servant and 
drop the and of.

It is also a feature of the KJV2003 effort for G3588 to be part of the w 
for the word it applies.

Hope this makes sense.

In His Service,
DM Smith

On Feb 16, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote:

 On 02/16/2014 08:44 AM, DM Smith wrote:
 In PocketSword, it displays all the values in the lemma field, which is 
 pretty cool to see the Greek associated with the Strong's Numbers.
 In Xiphos, I happened across KJV Matt 8:9, where I find odd markup at the 
 phrase to my servant:
 
 w lemma=strong:G3588 strong:G1401 lemma.TR:τω lemma.TR:δουλω 
 morph=robinson:T-DSM robinson:N-DSM src=24 25 type=x-split-482to/w 
 w lemma=strong:G3450 lemma.TR:μου morph=robinson:P-1GS src=26my/w 
 w lemma=strong:G3588 strong:G1401 lemma.TR:τω lemma.TR:δουλω 
 morph=robinson:T-DSM robinson:N-DSM src=24 25 
 type=x-split-482servant/w
 
 As displayed, see http://karl.kleinpaste.org/xiphos/kjv-mat.8.9-lemma.png.
 For reference, see also http://karl.kleinpaste.org/xiphos/2tgreek-mat.8.9.png
 
 Why is the word to given markup for servant following, and conversely 
 servant for to?
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[sword-devel] KJV updated

2014-02-15 Thread DM Smith
I just updated the KJV in the CrossWire repository. I had thought that I had 
done it back in October, but I had grabbed the wrong input.

See the KJV pages in the wiki for details: 
http://crosswire.org/wiki/User:Dmsmith/KJV2011

That page and the discussion page give lots of went into the update.

Not mentioned, I analyzed the TR that was used as the basis of the 2003 effort, 
comparing it to the KJV and fixed up thousands of errors.

I also added lemma.TR:xxx, where xxx is the Greek word from the TR that was 
used for the markup. The form used is that suggested by Chris L as normative.

I suggest that this be used in parallel markup like Xiphos does for Strong's 
Numbers and Robinson's morphological codes.

Hope in later version to:
update the morphology of the OT so that it is actually usable.
add titles
add margin notes and cross references
identify names

Enjoy.

In His Service,
DM Smith

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