Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael Johnson 
On 11/15/19 6:56 AM, Michael H wrote:
>
> However, It's my best interpretation of the sword spec and communication on 
> this subject that all KJV modules which contain red letter encoding would 
> best be represented with the configuration OSISqToTick=false in their 
> respective conf files.

That should not be necessary, but I will add it to eBible.org Sword modules 
with the next update.

>
> 1. The ebible module does not contain Chapter titles, while the KJV and KJVA 
> modules do.

Odd, since I thought I started with the same source.


>>> 2. The ebible module has more white space between features 
>>> (pilcrows have trailing spaces, Words of Jesus transitions introduce an 
>>> extra space, etc.) These are not present in the KJV and KJVA modules.
>>
Non-significant white space variation is an artifact of ambiguities in OSIS 
interpretation.

>>> 3. Both the ebible and KJV module display quotation marks where the 
>>> Words of Jesus transitions occur.  This is not present in the source text, 
>>> but is apparently a quirk of OSIS (not sure if it's in the OSIS, or the 
>>> conf file.) However, the KJVA module does NOT contain these quotations 
>>> which is more appropriate. Yet it lists the same source as the KJV module. 
>>
Any quotation marks displayed in the KJV indicate a bug in OSIS interpretation, 
since they all contain the marker="" attribute.


>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 09:08, David Haslam a écrit :
 AFAIK, The OSIS XML files that eBible.org uses for the 
 engKJV1769eb module are not those that either I or DM used for the 
 CrossWire KJV & KJVA modules.
>>>
The eBible.org KJV is taken straight from DM's source, at least for the 66 
books of the protocanon.


>>> I have the feeling again that we are wasting a mad energy by 
>>> the dispersion of sources and parallel works. Two "identical" modules 
>>> developed from two sources...
>>>
I don't think there is any significant waste of resources going on, here. There 
is a lot of cooperation and coordination, though.


 I’ve really not looked in detail at how Michael Johnson 
 maintains his modules with Haiola.
>>>
But I have. ;-)

It is highly automated, with periodic regeneration of the modules whether they 
need it or not when Haiola gets updated. The actual text of the KJV in all of 
its output formats is the same as the text of DM's master source.

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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Cyrille 
 spaces, Words of Jesus
>>> transitions introduce an extra space, etc.) These are
>>> not present in the KJV and KJVA modules. 
>>> 3. Both the ebible and KJV module display quotation
>>> marks where the Words of Jesus transitions occur.  This
>>> is not present in the source text, but is apparently a
>>> quirk of OSIS (not sure if it's in the OSIS, or the conf
>>> file.) However, the KJVA module does NOT contain these
>>> quotations which is more appropriate. Yet it lists the
>>> same source as the KJV module. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 8:19 AM Cyrille
>>> mailto:lafricai...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 09:08, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>> AFAIK, The OSIS XML files that eBible.org uses for
>>>> the engKJV1769eb module are not those that either I
>>>> or DM used for the CrossWire KJV & KJVA modules.
>>> I have the feeling again that we are wasting a mad
>>> energy by the dispersion of sources and parallel
>>> works. Two "identical" modules developed from two
>>> sources...
>>>>
>>>> I’ve really not looked in detail at how Michael
>>>> Johnson maintains his modules with Haiola. 
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
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>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 13:57, Cyrille
>>>> >>> <mailto:lafricai...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> Thank you Peter,
>>>>> I look in the conf file:
>>>>> TextSource=bf.org <http://bf.org>, eBible.org...
>>>>> eBible.org is ok
>>>>> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we
>>>>> want to work on it? At the same time I discover
>>>>> that ebible is an excellent resource that stores
>>>>> bibles in usfm and osis formats.
>>>>> David, is your file different from ebible?
>>>>> Maybe a link to the ebible.org <http://ebible.org>
>>>>> (I could only download the usfm file) on wiki
>>>>> would be useful.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>>>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith
>>>>>>         - though I did some significant work on the
>>>>>> source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential
>>>>>> enhancements. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne
>>>>>> mailto:ref...@gmx.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to
>>>>>>> the source text is both in the conf file and
>>>>>>> accessible via the WIki.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
>>>>>>> *Von:* "Cyrille" 
>>>>>>> <mailto:lafricai...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> &

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael H 
;> dispersion of sources and parallel works. Two "identical" modules
>>>> developed from two sources...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’ve really not looked in detail at how Michael Johnson maintains his
>>>> modules with Haiola.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 13:57, Cyrille  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Peter,
>>>> I look in the conf file:
>>>> TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org...
>>>> eBible.org is ok
>>>> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At
>>>> the same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that stores
>>>> bibles in usfm and osis formats.
>>>> David, is your file different from ebible?
>>>> Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file)
>>>> on wiki would be useful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some
>>>> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM.
>>>>
>>>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too.
>>>>
>>>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>>
>>>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is
>>>> both in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
>>>> *Von:* "Cyrille"  
>>>> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum"
>>>>  
>>>> *Betreff:* [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a crosswire project
>>>> <http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/>, I'm just looking for where
>>>> can I found the osis source text of this module?
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Cyrille 
>> used for the CrossWire KJV & KJVA modules.
>>> I have the feeling again that we are wasting a mad
>>> energy by the dispersion of sources and parallel works.
>>> Two "identical" modules developed from two sources...
>>>>
>>>> I’ve really not looked in detail at how Michael
>>>> Johnson maintains his modules with Haiola. 
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 13:57, Cyrille
>>>> mailto:lafricai...@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Thank you Peter,
>>>>> I look in the conf file:
>>>>> TextSource=bf.org <http://bf.org>, eBible.org...
>>>>> eBible.org is ok
>>>>> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to
>>>>> work on it? At the same time I discover that ebible is
>>>>> an excellent resource that stores bibles in usfm and
>>>>> osis formats.
>>>>> David, is your file different from ebible?
>>>>> Maybe a link to the ebible.org <http://ebible.org> (I
>>>>> could only download the usfm file) on wiki would be
>>>>> useful.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>>>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith
>>>>>> - though I did some significant work on the source
>>>>>> text in 2016 in collaboration with DM. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential
>>>>>> enhancements. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne
>>>>>> mailto:ref...@gmx.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the
>>>>>>> source text is both in the conf file and accessible
>>>>>>> via the WIki.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
>>>>>>> *Von:* "Cyrille" 
>>>>>>> <mailto:lafricai...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org>
>>>>>>> *Betreff:* [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a
>>>>>>> crosswire project
>>>>>>> <http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/>, I'm just
>>>>>>> looking for where can I found the osis source text
>>>>>>> of this module?
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael H 
>>>> TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org...
>>>> eBible.org is ok
>>>> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At
>>>> the same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that stores
>>>> bibles in usfm and osis formats.
>>>> David, is your file different from ebible?
>>>> Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file)
>>>> on wiki would be useful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some
>>>> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM.
>>>>
>>>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too.
>>>>
>>>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
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>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>>
>>>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is
>>>> both in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
>>>> *Von:* "Cyrille"  
>>>> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum"
>>>>  
>>>> *Betreff:* [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a crosswire project
>>>> <http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/>, I'm just looking for where
>>>> can I found the osis source text of this module?
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael H 
uld only download the usfm file) on
>>> wiki would be useful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>
>>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some
>>> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM.
>>>
>>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too.
>>>
>>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
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>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>
>>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is both
>>> in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
>>> *Von:* "Cyrille"  
>>> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum"
>>>  
>>> *Betreff:* [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
>>> Hello,
>>> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a crosswire project
>>> <http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/>, I'm just looking for where
>>> can I found the osis source text of this module?
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread David Haslam 
 do if we want to work on it? At 
>>>>>>> the same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that 
>>>>>>> stores bibles in usfm and osis formats.
>>>>>>> David, is your file different from ebible?
>>>>>>> Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file) on 
>>>>>>> wiki would be useful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some 
>>>>>>>> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is 
>>>>>>>>> both in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
>>>>>>>>> Von: "Cyrille" [](mailto:lafricai...@gmail.com)
>>>>>>>>> An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" 
>>>>>>>>> [](mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org)
>>>>>>>>> Betreff: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a [crosswire 
>>>>>>>>> project](http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/), I'm just looking 
>>>>>>>>> for where can I found the osis source text of this module?
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread David Haslam 
Michael,

KJV version 2.9 and KJVA version 3.0.1 should behave the same.

KJVA is now made using the osis2mod augment switch -a to add the DC books to 
the module first made from the KJV source XML file.

Are you viewing these latest module releases?

David

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On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 16:17, Michael H  wrote:

> I see them in bibletime 2.11.3 for Linux (Ubuntu 18.04LTS) built on Sword 
> 1.7.3. This is the default edition that comes in the apps provided by the 
> current stable Ubuntu edition.
>
> In a 3 column view with the modules listed, engKJV1769eb, KJV, and KJVA; only 
> the KJVA displays  silent transitions.
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:01 AM David Haslam  wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> The CrossWire KJV module should not and does not display quotation marks in 
>> either Xiphos or PocketSword & probably all SWORD based front-end apps.
>>
>> If you see quotation marks at Words of Jesus transitions, might this be a 
>> failure of some apps not correctly implementing the attribute marker=“” in 
>> rendering the OSIS q element?
>>
>> Which apps have such an issue?
>>
>> David
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>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 15:49, Michael H  wrote:
>>
>>> I suspect starting from the KJVA module is the correct approach for you 
>>> Cyrille. The engKJV1769eb module is present to make the text available in 
>>> the other formats (web browser, epub, kindle formats.) It is not intended 
>>> to be a source text. However, the conversion to all these formats 
>>> reprocesses the text and introduces some quirks.
>>>
>>> The Crosswire KJV module is not identical to the engKJV1769eb module.
>>>
>>> 1. The ebible module does not contain Chapter titles, while the KJV and 
>>> KJVA modules do.
>>> 2. The ebible module has more white space between features (pilcrows have 
>>> trailing spaces, Words of Jesus transitions introduce an extra space, etc.) 
>>> These are not present in the KJV and KJVA modules.
>>> 3. Both the ebible and KJV module display quotation marks where the Words 
>>> of Jesus transitions occur.  This is not present in the source text, but is 
>>> apparently a quirk of OSIS (not sure if it's in the OSIS, or the conf 
>>> file.) However, the KJVA module does NOT contain these quotations which is 
>>> more appropriate. Yet it lists the same source as the KJV module.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 8:19 AM Cyrille  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 09:08, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> AFAIK, The OSIS XML files that eBible.org uses for the engKJV1769eb 
>>>>> module are not those that either I or DM used for the CrossWire KJV & 
>>>>> KJVA modules.
>>>>
>>>> I have the feeling again that we are wasting a mad energy by the 
>>>> dispersion of sources and parallel works. Two "identical" modules 
>>>> developed from two sources...
>>>>
>>>>> I’ve really not looked in detail at how Michael Johnson maintains his 
>>>>> modules with Haiola.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
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>>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 13:57, Cyrille  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Peter,
>>>>>> I look in the conf file:
>>>>>> TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org...
>>>>>> eBible.org is ok
>>>>>> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At 
>>>>>> the same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that 
>>>>>> stores bibles in usfm and osis formats.
>>>>>> David, is your file different from ebible?
>>>>>> Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file) on 
>>>>>> wiki would be useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some 
>>>>>>> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael H 
correction, the version is Bibletime 2.11.1, not 2.11.3.

The KJVA module conf file contains the line "OSISqToTick=false".  I believe
this is the cause of the missing quotations.  I think Bibletime is
correctly displaying the quotes in modules as defined by OSIS, where most
frontends just ignore this configuration, and remove the quotations on all
WOJ. But I'm really out of my depth here.

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17 AM Michael H  wrote:

> I see them in bibletime 2.11.3 for Linux (Ubuntu 18.04LTS) built on Sword
> 1.7.3. This is the default edition that comes in the apps provided by the
> current stable Ubuntu edition.
>
> In a 3 column view with the modules listed, engKJV1769eb, KJV, and KJVA;
> only the KJVA displays  silent transitions.
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:01 AM David Haslam 
> wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> The CrossWire KJV module should not and does not display quotation marks
>> in either Xiphos or PocketSword & probably all SWORD based front-end apps.
>>
>> If you see quotation marks at Words of Jesus transitions, might this be a
>> failure of some apps not correctly implementing the attribute marker=“” in
>> rendering the OSIS q element?
>>
>> Which apps have such an issue?
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 15:49, Michael H  wrote:
>>
>> I suspect starting from the KJVA module is the correct approach for you
>> Cyrille. The engKJV1769eb module is present to make the text available in
>> the other formats (web browser, epub, kindle formats.) It is not intended
>> to be a source text. However, the conversion to all these formats
>> reprocesses the text and introduces some quirks.
>>
>> The Crosswire KJV module is not identical to the engKJV1769eb module.
>>
>> 1. The ebible module does not contain Chapter titles, while the KJV and
>> KJVA modules do.
>> 2. The ebible module has more white space between features (pilcrows
>> have trailing spaces, Words of Jesus transitions introduce an extra space,
>> etc.) These are not present in the KJV and KJVA modules.
>> 3. Both the ebible and KJV module display quotation marks where the Words
>> of Jesus transitions occur.  This is not present in the source text, but is
>> apparently a quirk of OSIS (not sure if it's in the OSIS, or the conf
>> file.) However, the KJVA module does NOT contain these quotations which is
>> more appropriate. Yet it lists the same source as the KJV module.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 8:19 AM Cyrille  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 09:08, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>
>>> AFAIK, The OSIS XML files that eBible.org uses for the engKJV1769eb
>>> module are not those that either I or DM used for the CrossWire KJV & KJVA
>>> modules.
>>>
>>> I have the feeling again that we are wasting a mad energy by the
>>> dispersion of sources and parallel works. Two "identical" modules
>>> developed from two sources...
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve really not looked in detail at how Michael Johnson maintains his
>>> modules with Haiola.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 13:57, Cyrille  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you Peter,
>>> I look in the conf file:
>>> TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org...
>>> eBible.org is ok
>>> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At
>>> the same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that stores
>>> bibles in usfm and osis formats.
>>> David, is your file different from ebible?
>>> Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file) on
>>> wiki would be useful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>
>>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some
>>> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM.
>>>
>>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too.
>>>
>>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>
>>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is both
>>> in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>>>
>>>

Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael H 
I see them in bibletime 2.11.3 for Linux (Ubuntu 18.04LTS) built on Sword
1.7.3. This is the default edition that comes in the apps provided by the
current stable Ubuntu edition.

In a 3 column view with the modules listed, engKJV1769eb, KJV, and KJVA;
only the KJVA displays  silent transitions.

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:01 AM David Haslam  wrote:

> Michael,
>
> The CrossWire KJV module should not and does not display quotation marks
> in either Xiphos or PocketSword & probably all SWORD based front-end apps.
>
> If you see quotation marks at Words of Jesus transitions, might this be a
> failure of some apps not correctly implementing the attribute marker=“” in
> rendering the OSIS q element?
>
> Which apps have such an issue?
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 15:49, Michael H  wrote:
>
> I suspect starting from the KJVA module is the correct approach for you
> Cyrille. The engKJV1769eb module is present to make the text available in
> the other formats (web browser, epub, kindle formats.) It is not intended
> to be a source text. However, the conversion to all these formats
> reprocesses the text and introduces some quirks.
>
> The Crosswire KJV module is not identical to the engKJV1769eb module.
>
> 1. The ebible module does not contain Chapter titles, while the KJV and
> KJVA modules do.
> 2. The ebible module has more white space between features (pilcrows
> have trailing spaces, Words of Jesus transitions introduce an extra space,
> etc.) These are not present in the KJV and KJVA modules.
> 3. Both the ebible and KJV module display quotation marks where the Words
> of Jesus transitions occur.  This is not present in the source text, but is
> apparently a quirk of OSIS (not sure if it's in the OSIS, or the conf
> file.) However, the KJVA module does NOT contain these quotations which is
> more appropriate. Yet it lists the same source as the KJV module.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 8:19 AM Cyrille  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Le 15/11/2019 à 09:08, David Haslam a écrit :
>>
>> AFAIK, The OSIS XML files that eBible.org uses for the engKJV1769eb
>> module are not those that either I or DM used for the CrossWire KJV & KJVA
>> modules.
>>
>> I have the feeling again that we are wasting a mad energy by the
>> dispersion of sources and parallel works. Two "identical" modules
>> developed from two sources...
>>
>>
>> I’ve really not looked in detail at how Michael Johnson maintains his
>> modules with Haiola.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 13:57, Cyrille  wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Peter,
>> I look in the conf file:
>> TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org...
>> eBible.org is ok
>> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At
>> the same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that stores
>> bibles in usfm and osis formats.
>> David, is your file different from ebible?
>> Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file) on
>> wiki would be useful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>>
>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some
>> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM.
>>
>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too.
>>
>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Cyrille,
>>
>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is both
>> in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
>> *Von:* "Cyrille"  
>> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" 
>> 
>> *Betreff:* [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
>> Hello,
>> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a crosswire project
>> <http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/>, I'm just looking for where
>> can I found the osis source text of this module?
>> ___ sword-devel mailing list:
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread David Haslam 
Michael,

The CrossWire KJV module should not and does not display quotation marks in 
either Xiphos or PocketSword & probably all SWORD based front-end apps.

If you see quotation marks at Words of Jesus transitions, might this be a 
failure of some apps not correctly implementing the attribute marker=“” in 
rendering the OSIS q element?

Which apps have such an issue?

David

Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 15:49, Michael H  wrote:

> I suspect starting from the KJVA module is the correct approach for you 
> Cyrille. The engKJV1769eb module is present to make the text available in the 
> other formats (web browser, epub, kindle formats.) It is not intended to be a 
> source text. However, the conversion to all these formats reprocesses the 
> text and introduces some quirks.
>
> The Crosswire KJV module is not identical to the engKJV1769eb module.
>
> 1. The ebible module does not contain Chapter titles, while the KJV and KJVA 
> modules do.
> 2. The ebible module has more white space between features (pilcrows have 
> trailing spaces, Words of Jesus transitions introduce an extra space, etc.) 
> These are not present in the KJV and KJVA modules.
> 3. Both the ebible and KJV module display quotation marks where the Words of 
> Jesus transitions occur.  This is not present in the source text, but is 
> apparently a quirk of OSIS (not sure if it's in the OSIS, or the conf file.) 
> However, the KJVA module does NOT contain these quotations which is more 
> appropriate. Yet it lists the same source as the KJV module.
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 8:19 AM Cyrille  wrote:
>
>> Le 15/11/2019 à 09:08, David Haslam a écrit :
>>
>>> AFAIK, The OSIS XML files that eBible.org uses for the engKJV1769eb module 
>>> are not those that either I or DM used for the CrossWire KJV & KJVA modules.
>>
>> I have the feeling again that we are wasting a mad energy by the dispersion 
>> of sources and parallel works. Two "identical" modules developed from two 
>> sources...
>>
>>> I’ve really not looked in detail at how Michael Johnson maintains his 
>>> modules with Haiola.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 13:57, Cyrille  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Peter,
>>>> I look in the conf file:
>>>> TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org...
>>>> eBible.org is ok
>>>> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At the 
>>>> same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that stores 
>>>> bibles in usfm and osis formats.
>>>> David, is your file different from ebible?
>>>> Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file) on 
>>>> wiki would be useful.
>>>>
>>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some 
>>>>> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too.
>>>>>
>>>>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is both 
>>>>>> in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
>>>>>> Von: "Cyrille" [](mailto:lafricai...@gmail.com)
>>>>>> An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" 
>>>>>> [](mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org)
>>>>>> Betreff: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a [crosswire 
>>>>>> project](http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/), I'm just looking for 
>>>>>> where can I found the osis source text of this module?
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>>>>>> list: sword-devel@crosswire.org 
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Michael H 
I suspect starting from the KJVA module is the correct approach for you
Cyrille. The engKJV1769eb module is present to make the text available in
the other formats (web browser, epub, kindle formats.) It is not intended
to be a source text. However, the conversion to all these formats
reprocesses the text and introduces some quirks.

The Crosswire KJV module is not identical to the engKJV1769eb module.

1. The ebible module does not contain Chapter titles, while the KJV and
KJVA modules do.
2. The ebible module has more white space between features (pilcrows
have trailing spaces, Words of Jesus transitions introduce an extra space,
etc.) These are not present in the KJV and KJVA modules.
3. Both the ebible and KJV module display quotation marks where the Words
of Jesus transitions occur.  This is not present in the source text, but is
apparently a quirk of OSIS (not sure if it's in the OSIS, or the conf
file.) However, the KJVA module does NOT contain these quotations which is
more appropriate. Yet it lists the same source as the KJV module.


On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 8:19 AM Cyrille  wrote:

>
>
> Le 15/11/2019 à 09:08, David Haslam a écrit :
>
> AFAIK, The OSIS XML files that eBible.org uses for the engKJV1769eb module
> are not those that either I or DM used for the CrossWire KJV & KJVA
> modules.
>
> I have the feeling again that we are wasting a mad energy by the
> dispersion of sources and parallel works. Two "identical" modules
> developed from two sources...
>
>
> I’ve really not looked in detail at how Michael Johnson maintains his
> modules with Haiola.
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 13:57, Cyrille  wrote:
>
> Thank you Peter,
> I look in the conf file:
> TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org...
> eBible.org is ok
> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At the
> same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that stores
> bibles in usfm and osis formats.
> David, is your file different from ebible?
> Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file) on
> wiki would be useful.
>
>
>
> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>
> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some
> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM.
>
> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too.
>
> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements.
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne  wrote:
>
> Hi Cyrille,
>
> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is both
> in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>
> Peter
>
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
> *Von:* "Cyrille"  
> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" 
> 
> *Betreff:* [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
> Hello,
> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a crosswire project
> <http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/>, I'm just looking for where can
> I found the osis source text of this module?
> ___ sword-devel mailing list:
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Cyrille 


Le 15/11/2019 à 09:08, David Haslam a écrit :
> AFAIK, The OSIS XML files that eBible.org uses for the engKJV1769eb
> module are not those that either I or DM used for the CrossWire KJV &
> KJVA modules.
I have the feeling again that we are wasting a mad energy by the
dispersion of sources and parallel works. Two "identical" modules
developed from two sources...
>
> I’ve really not looked in detail at how Michael Johnson maintains his
> modules with Haiola. 
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 13:57, Cyrille  <mailto:lafricai...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Thank you Peter,
>> I look in the conf file:
>> TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org...
>> eBible.org is ok
>> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At
>> the same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that
>> stores bibles in usfm and osis formats.
>> David, is your file different from ebible?
>> Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file)
>> on wiki would be useful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some
>>> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM. 
>>>
>>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too. 
>>>
>>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements. 
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne >> <mailto:ref...@gmx.net>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>>  
>>>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is
>>>> both in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>>>>  
>>>> Peter
>>>>  
>>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
>>>> *Von:* "Cyrille" 
>>>> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum"
>>>> 
>>>> *Betreff:* [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a crosswire project
>>>> <http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/>, I'm just looking for
>>>> where can I found the osis source text of this module?
>>>> ___ sword-devel mailing
>>>> list: sword-devel@crosswire.org
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>>>> to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread David Haslam 
You’d be well advised to ask DM Smith for how to navigate the various 
directories in that URL.

Previous releases as well as work in progress are all in different folders.

David

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On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 14:07, Peter Von Kaehne  wrote:

>
>  No. Ebible is not a good source for further modules.  They are already part 
> of us, sort of :-)!!! We have all their modules online - just check your repo 
> list.
>
> Here is the source
>
> http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/kjv2011/
>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 13:57 Uhr
> Von: "Cyrille" 
> An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" 
> Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
> Thank you Peter,
> I look in the conf file:
> TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org...
> eBible.org is ok
> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At the 
> same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that stores bibles 
> in usfm and osis formats.
> David, is your file different from ebible?
> Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file) on wiki 
> would be useful.
>
> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>
>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some 
>> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM.
>>
>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too.
>>
>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>
>>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is both in 
>>> the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
>>> Von: "Cyrille" [](mailto:lafricai...@gmail.com)
>>> An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" 
>>> [](mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org)
>>> Betreff: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
>>> Hello,
>>> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a [crosswire 
>>> project](http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/), I'm just looking for 
>>> where can I found the osis source text of this module?
>>> ___ sword-devel mailing list: 
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Cyrille 


Le 15/11/2019 à 09:07, Peter Von Kaehne a écrit :
>  
>  No. Ebible is not a good source for further modules. 
OK, then the .conf file give no good information about sources, maybe we
need to change it. "For further modules" you speak only about KJV?
Because they have a lot of usfm and osis for other modules. Files I was
looking for for a while! I just download the Chinese.
> They are already part of us, sort of :-)!!! We have all their modules
> online - just check your repo list.
Yes I know that they are part of us. But I never knew they keep the osis
and usfm files, and this is very interesting.
>  
> Here is the source
>  
> http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/kjv2011/
Ok well thank you.
>  
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 13:57 Uhr
> *Von:* "Cyrille" 
> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" 
> *Betreff:* Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
> Thank you Peter,
> I look in the conf file:
> TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org...
> eBible.org is ok
> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At
> the same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that
> stores bibles in usfm and osis formats.
> David, is your file different from ebible?
> Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file)
> on wiki would be useful.
>
>
>  
> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>
> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some
> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM. 
>  
> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too. 
>  
> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements. 
>  
> David
>  
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>  
>  
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne  <mailto:ref...@gmx.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi Cyrille,
>  
> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source
> text is both in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>  
> Peter
>  
>     *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
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> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a crosswire
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread David Haslam 
AFAIK, The OSIS XML files that eBible.org uses for the engKJV1769eb module are 
not those that either I or DM used for the CrossWire KJV & KJVA modules.

I’ve really not looked in detail at how Michael Johnson maintains his modules 
with Haiola.

David

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On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 13:57, Cyrille  wrote:

> Thank you Peter,
> I look in the conf file:
> TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org...
> eBible.org is ok
> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At the 
> same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that stores bibles 
> in usfm and osis formats.
> David, is your file different from ebible?
> Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file) on wiki 
> would be useful.
>
> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>
>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some 
>> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM.
>>
>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too.
>>
>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements.
>>
>> David
>>
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>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>
>>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is both in 
>>> the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
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>>> Hello,
>>> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a [crosswire 
>>> project](http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/), I'm just looking for 
>>> where can I found the osis source text of this module?
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Peter Von Kaehne 
 

 No. Ebible is not a good source for further modules.  They are already part of us, sort of :-)!!! We have all their modules online - just check your repo list.

 

Here is the source

 

http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/kjv2011/

 


Gesendet: Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 13:57 Uhr
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Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers


Thank you Peter,
I look in the conf file:
TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org...
eBible.org is ok
And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At the same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that stores bibles in usfm and osis formats.
David, is your file different from ebible?
Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file) on wiki would be useful.


 
Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :


Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM. 

 

I still keep such KJV files on my PC too. 

 

The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements. 

 

David

 


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On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne <ref...@gmx.net> wrote:




Hi Cyrille,

 

I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is both in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.

 

Peter

 

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Hello,
I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a crosswire project, I'm just looking for where can I found the osis source text of this module?
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Cyrille 
Thank you Peter,
I look in the conf file:
TextSource=bf.org, eBible.org...
eBible.org is ok
And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to work on it? At
the same time I discover that ebible is an excellent resource that
stores bibles in usfm and osis formats.
David, is your file different from ebible?
Maybe a link to the ebible.org (I could only download the usfm file) on
wiki would be useful.



Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some
> significant work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM. 
>
> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too. 
>
> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements. 
>
> David
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
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>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne  <mailto:ref...@gmx.net>> wrote:
>> Hi Cyrille,
>>  
>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is
>> both in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>>  
>> Peter
>>  
>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
>> *Von:* "Cyrille" 
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>> *Betreff:* [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
>> Hello,
>> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a crosswire project
>> <http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/>, I'm just looking for where
>> can I found the osis source text of this module?
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread David Haslam 
Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith - though I did some significant 
work on the source text in 2016 in collaboration with DM.

I still keep such KJV files on my PC too.

The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential enhancements.

David

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On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne  wrote:

> Hi Cyrille,
>
> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is both in 
> the conf file and accessible via the WIki.
>
> Peter
>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
> Von: "Cyrille" 
> An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" 
> Betreff: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
> Hello,
> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a [crosswire 
> project](http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/), I'm just looking for where 
> can I found the osis source text of this module?
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Re: [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-15 Thread Peter Von Kaehne 

Hi Cyrille,

 

I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the source text is both in the conf file and accessible via the WIki.

 

Peter

 

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[sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers

2019-11-14 Thread Cyrille 
Hello,
I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a crosswire project
, I'm just looking for where
can I found the osis source text of this module?
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