Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb

2022-10-05 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2022-09-24, 07:43 GMT, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> This morning I sent Psalm 139 to remind a friend that God who
> created a 1000 galaxies formed her and wrote each of her days...
> and then I realized that she will likely click on the link from
> her phone and then I thought of you.  Any more thoughts on a 
> more mobile-friendly UI?

Unfortunately https://www.crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?key=Psalm+139
is a complete disaster on a mobile phone. I would love to add links to some
Sword-base web app to https://hesla.ceplovi.cz/ (PWA for
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Watchwords) or even better
https://github.com/Verses/Common_Bible_Share_Sheet, but certainly
https://www.crosswire.org/study is not that target.

Best,

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb

2022-09-24 Thread Tobias Klein
The browser has a mapping between physical screen resolution and actual 
browser viewport pixels. They are not the same!


Therefore, this actually works (based on browser viewport size).

There are various mapping tables / device catalogues that you can find online.

Best regards,
Tobias

Am 24. September 2022 16:14:16 schrieb Peter von Kaehne :
Considering that many phones have more than FHD resolution but still are 
tiny screened is this really the most useful distinction?



Sent from my phone. Please forgive misspellings and weird “corrections”


On 24 Sep 2022, at 13:47, Tobias Klein  wrote:
Hi Troy,
Many web apps optimize for different screen sizes and have several 
configurations in the CSS. Something you would consider "responsive web 
design".

Based on filters like this in the CSS (example from Ezra Bible App):

Phone
@media screen and (max-width: 450px), (max-height: 450px) {

Tablet / Large phone
@media screen and (max-width: 600px) {

And then aside from this the standard CSS remains the one for desktop / 
large screen.

Best regards,
Tobias

On 9/24/22 9:43 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Hi Don,

This morning I sent Psalm 139 to remind a friend that God who created a 
1000 galaxies formed her and wrote each of her days... and then I realized 
that she will likely click on the link from her phone and then I thought of 
you.  Any more thoughts on a more mobile-friendly UI?


A few years ago, to the main https://crosswire.org website, I added per 
recommendation:




and it really helped quite a bit. Maybe I'll try that with SWORDWeb this 
afternoon and see if it makes things better or worse.


I use SWORDWeb from my phone regularly, and what I like is that if I 
double-tap the center Bible text column, chrome zooms in exactly on that 
column so it's pretty usable with that trick.


Anyway, by the time you read this, I may have done some experimenting with 
the header tag, above. Let me know if you have ideas for an interface which 
adapts better to screen size.


Thanks again for all your work,

Troy


On August 17, 2021 3:40:56 AM GMT+02:00, Don Elbourne  
wrote:

Troy,
ok Great. Thanks.
I have not messed with Docker yet. I guess I need to get with the times. 
lol This will give me a good excuse. No promises, but I will check it out.

-- by grace alone, Pastor Don A. Elbourne Jr.
Lakeshore Baptist Church
http://lakeshorebaptist.net
http://rebuildlakeshore.com
On 8/14/2021 5:31 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
Hi Don! I don't know if anyone is running the site other than CrossWire. 
We've helped a few people setup the software over the years but not sure if 
they continue to run it.


We've made an OCI container of the software to make it scalable and to more 
easily spin up an image:


https://hub.docker.com/r/crosswire/swordweb

Not sure who might be pulling that as a base or a spinning up an instance.

It's great to hear from you! I've often reused your html and style in other 
html UI apps which present SWORD functionality. If you install Bishop, it 
should look a bit familiar. 


Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-sword-project/id1399921911

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop

We'd love to have you contribute to an improved user experience in our new 
world of diverse screen sizes, if you can find the time between pastoring.


Hope you've been well!

Troy


On August 14, 2021 5:36:47 AM GMT+02:00, Don Elbourne  
wrote:
Is anyone running SWORDWeb in the wild, other than 
https://www.crosswire.org/study/ Just wondering. Its been a long time since 
we designed that. I have been thinking about jumping back into the project 
and helping update it to be mobile friendly, if there is any interest.

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Lakeshore Baptist Church
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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb

2022-09-24 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Considering that many phones have more than FHD resolution but still are tiny screened is this really the most useful distinction?Sent from my phone. Please forgive misspellings and weird “corrections”On 24 Sep 2022, at 13:47, Tobias Klein  wrote:
  

  
  
Hi Troy,

Many web apps optimize for different screen sizes and have
  several configurations in the CSS. Something you would consider
  "responsive web design".

Based on filters like this in the CSS (example from Ezra Bible
  App):
  
  Phone

@media screen and (max-width: 450px), (max-height: 450px) {

  Tablet / Large phone

@media screen and (max-width: 600px) {


  And then aside from this the standard CSS remains the one for
  desktop / large screen.

Best regards,
  Tobias
  

On 9/24/22 9:43 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
  wrote:


  
  Hi Don,
  
  This morning I sent Psalm 139 to remind a friend that God who
  created a 1000 galaxies formed her and wrote each of her days...
  and then I realized that she will likely click on the link from
  her phone and then I thought of you.  Any more thoughts on a
  more mobile-friendly UI?
  
  A few years ago, to the main https://crosswire.org website, I
  added per recommendation:
  
  
  
  and it really helped quite a bit. Maybe I'll try that with
  SWORDWeb this afternoon and see if it makes things better or
  worse.
  
  I use SWORDWeb from my phone regularly, and what I like is that if
  I double-tap the center Bible text column, chrome zooms in exactly
  on that column so it's pretty usable with that trick.
  
  Anyway, by the time you read this, I may have done some
  experimenting with the header tag, above. Let me know if you have
  ideas for an interface which adapts better to screen size.
  
  Thanks again for all your work,
  
  Troy
  
  On August 17, 2021 3:40:56 AM GMT+02:00,
Don Elbourne  wrote:

  Troy,
  ok Great. Thanks.
  I have not messed with Docker yet. I guess I need to get
with the times. lol This will give me a good excuse. No
promises, but I will check it out. 
  
  -- 
by grace alone,

Pastor Don A. Elbourne Jr.
Lakeshore Baptist Church
http://lakeshorebaptist.net
http://rebuildlakeshore.com
  On 8/14/2021 5:31 AM, Troy A.
Griffitts wrote:
  
  

Hi Don! I don't know if anyone is running the site other
than CrossWire. We've helped a few people setup the software
over the years but not sure if they continue to run it.

We've made an OCI container of the software to make it
scalable and to more easily spin up an image:

https://hub.docker.com/r/crosswire/swordweb

Not sure who might be pulling that as a base or a spinning
up an instance.

It's great to hear from you! I've often reused your html and
style in other html UI apps which present SWORD
functionality. If you install Bishop, it should look a bit
familiar. 

Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-sword-project/id1399921911

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop

We'd love to have you contribute to an improved user
experience in our new world of diverse screen sizes, if you
can find the time between pastoring.

Hope you've been well!

Troy

On August 14, 2021 5:36:47 AM
  GMT+02:00, Don Elbourne 
  wrote:
  
Is anyone running SWORDWeb in the wild, other than 
https://www.crosswire.org/study/

Just wondering. Its been a long time since we designed that. I have been 
thinking about jumping back into the project and helping update it to be 
mobile friendly, if there is any interest.

-- 
by grace alone,

Pastor Don A. Elbourne Jr.
Lakeshore Baptist Church
http://lakeshorebaptist.net
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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb

2022-09-24 Thread Tobias Klein

Hi Troy,

Many web apps optimize for different screen sizes and have several 
configurations in the CSS. Something you would consider "responsive web 
design".


Based on filters like this in the CSS (example from Ezra Bible App):

Phone

@mediascreenand (max-width: 450px), (max-height: 450px) {


Tablet / Large phone

@mediascreenand (max-width: 600px) {


And then aside from this the standard CSS remains the one for desktop / 
large screen.


Best regards,
Tobias

On 9/24/22 9:43 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Hi Don,

This morning I sent Psalm 139 to remind a friend that God who created 
a 1000 galaxies formed her and wrote each of her days... and then I 
realized that she will likely click on the link from her phone and 
then I thought of you.  Any more thoughts on a more mobile-friendly UI?


A few years ago, to the main https://crosswire.org 
 website, I added per recommendation:




and it really helped quite a bit. Maybe I'll try that with SWORDWeb 
this afternoon and see if it makes things better or worse.


I use SWORDWeb from my phone regularly, and what I like is that if I 
double-tap the center Bible text column, chrome zooms in exactly on 
that column so it's pretty usable with that trick.


Anyway, by the time you read this, I may have done some experimenting 
with the header tag, above. Let me know if you have ideas for an 
interface which adapts better to screen size.


Thanks again for all your work,

Troy

On August 17, 2021 3:40:56 AM GMT+02:00, Don Elbourne 
 wrote:


Troy,

ok Great. Thanks.

I have not messed with Docker yet. I guess I need to get with the
times. lol This will give me a good excuse. No promises, but I
will check it out.

-- 
by grace alone,


Pastor Don A. Elbourne Jr.
Lakeshore Baptist Church
http://lakeshorebaptist.net
http://rebuildlakeshore.com

On 8/14/2021 5:31 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Hi Don! I don't know if anyone is running the site other than
CrossWire. We've helped a few people setup the software over the
years but not sure if they continue to run it.

We've made an OCI container of the software to make it scalable
and to more easily spin up an image:

https://hub.docker.com/r/crosswire/swordweb

Not sure who might be pulling that as a base or a spinning up an
instance.

It's great to hear from you! I've often reused your html and
style in other html UI apps which present SWORD functionality. If
you install Bishop, it should look a bit familiar. 

Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-sword-project/id1399921911

Android:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop

We'd love to have you contribute to an improved user experience
in our new world of diverse screen sizes, if you can find the
time between pastoring.

Hope you've been well!

Troy

On August 14, 2021 5:36:47 AM GMT+02:00, Don Elbourne
 wrote:

Is anyone running SWORDWeb in the wild, other than
https://www.crosswire.org/study/

Just wondering. Its been a long time since we designed that. I have been
thinking about jumping back into the project and helping update it to be
mobile friendly, if there is any interest.

-- by grace alone, Pastor Don A. Elbourne Jr. Lakeshore
Baptist Church http://lakeshorebaptist.net
http://rebuildlakeshore.com

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb

2022-09-24 Thread Peter von Kaehne
I was one of these. I have created a number of instances. Most/all(?) fell by the wayside eventually. I always felt it was very hard work to make run for someone who is a hobbyist in essence. I am not sure how to fix that. My main difficulties were always around Tomcat and the CORBA connection.  Making them work and securing them so much that I felt comfortable to leave it be open to the malignant net - this was always a challenge. Maybe I was paranoid and clumsy. PeterSent from my phone. Please forgive misspellings and weird “corrections”On 24 Sep 2022, at 10:41, Troy A. Griffitts  wrote:
  

  
  
Nope, that didn't work :)  Whereas https://crosswire.org moved
  the sidebar divs under the main body, swordweb tried to keep them
  and basically had a 1 word column for the Bible text. :)  We need
  you, Don!  HTML/CSS are not my strong points :)

On 9/24/22 09:43, Troy A. Griffitts
  wrote:


  
  Hi Don,
  
  This morning I sent Psalm 139 to remind a friend that God who
  created a 1000 galaxies formed her and wrote each of her days...
  and then I realized that she will likely click on the link from
  her phone and then I thought of you.  Any more thoughts on a
  more mobile-friendly UI?
  
  A few years ago, to the main https://crosswire.org
  website, I added per recommendation:
  
  
  
  and it really helped quite a bit. Maybe I'll try that with
  SWORDWeb this afternoon and see if it makes things better or
  worse.
  
  I use SWORDWeb from my phone regularly, and what I like is that if
  I double-tap the center Bible text column, chrome zooms in exactly
  on that column so it's pretty usable with that trick.
  
  Anyway, by the time you read this, I may have done some
  experimenting with the header tag, above. Let me know if you have
  ideas for an interface which adapts better to screen size.
  
  Thanks again for all your work,
  
  Troy
  
  On August 17, 2021 3:40:56 AM GMT+02:00,
Don Elbourne  wrote:

  Troy,
  ok Great. Thanks.
  I have not messed with Docker yet. I guess I need to get
with the times. lol This will give me a good excuse. No
promises, but I will check it out. 
  
  -- 
by grace alone,

Pastor Don A. Elbourne Jr.
Lakeshore Baptist Church
http://lakeshorebaptist.net
http://rebuildlakeshore.com
  On 8/14/2021 5:31 AM, Troy A.
Griffitts wrote:
  
  

Hi Don! I don't know if anyone is running the site other
than CrossWire. We've helped a few people setup the software
over the years but not sure if they continue to run it.

We've made an OCI container of the software to make it
scalable and to more easily spin up an image:

https://hub.docker.com/r/crosswire/swordweb

Not sure who might be pulling that as a base or a spinning
up an instance.

It's great to hear from you! I've often reused your html and
style in other html UI apps which present SWORD
functionality. If you install Bishop, it should look a bit
familiar. 

Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-sword-project/id1399921911

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop

We'd love to have you contribute to an improved user
experience in our new world of diverse screen sizes, if you
can find the time between pastoring.

Hope you've been well!

Troy

On August 14, 2021 5:36:47 AM
  GMT+02:00, Don Elbourne 
  wrote:
  
Is anyone running SWORDWeb in the wild, other than 
https://www.crosswire.org/study/

Just wondering. Its been a long time since we designed that. I have been 
thinking about jumping back into the project and helping update it to be 
mobile friendly, if there is any interest.

-- 
by grace alone,

Pastor Don A. Elbourne Jr.
Lakeshore Baptist Church
http://lakeshorebaptist.net
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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb

2022-09-24 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Nope, that didn't work :)  Whereas https://crosswire.org moved the 
sidebar divs under the main body, swordweb tried to keep them and 
basically had a 1 word column for the Bible text. :)  We need you, Don!  
HTML/CSS are not my strong points :)


On 9/24/22 09:43, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Hi Don,

This morning I sent Psalm 139 to remind a friend that God who created 
a 1000 galaxies formed her and wrote each of her days... and then I 
realized that she will likely click on the link from her phone and 
then I thought of you.  Any more thoughts on a more mobile-friendly UI?


A few years ago, to the main https://crosswire.org website, I added 
per recommendation:




and it really helped quite a bit. Maybe I'll try that with SWORDWeb 
this afternoon and see if it makes things better or worse.


I use SWORDWeb from my phone regularly, and what I like is that if I 
double-tap the center Bible text column, chrome zooms in exactly on 
that column so it's pretty usable with that trick.


Anyway, by the time you read this, I may have done some experimenting 
with the header tag, above. Let me know if you have ideas for an 
interface which adapts better to screen size.


Thanks again for all your work,

Troy

On August 17, 2021 3:40:56 AM GMT+02:00, Don Elbourne 
 wrote:


Troy,

ok Great. Thanks.

I have not messed with Docker yet. I guess I need to get with the
times. lol This will give me a good excuse. No promises, but I
will check it out.

-- 
by grace alone,


Pastor Don A. Elbourne Jr.
Lakeshore Baptist Church
http://lakeshorebaptist.net
http://rebuildlakeshore.com

On 8/14/2021 5:31 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Hi Don! I don't know if anyone is running the site other than
CrossWire. We've helped a few people setup the software over the
years but not sure if they continue to run it.

We've made an OCI container of the software to make it scalable
and to more easily spin up an image:

https://hub.docker.com/r/crosswire/swordweb

Not sure who might be pulling that as a base or a spinning up an
instance.

It's great to hear from you! I've often reused your html and
style in other html UI apps which present SWORD functionality. If
you install Bishop, it should look a bit familiar. 

Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-sword-project/id1399921911

Android:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop

We'd love to have you contribute to an improved user experience
in our new world of diverse screen sizes, if you can find the
time between pastoring.

Hope you've been well!

Troy

On August 14, 2021 5:36:47 AM GMT+02:00, Don Elbourne
 wrote:

Is anyone running SWORDWeb in the wild, other than
https://www.crosswire.org/study/

Just wondering. Its been a long time since we designed that. I have been
thinking about jumping back into the project and helping update it to be
mobile friendly, if there is any interest.

-- by grace alone, Pastor Don A. Elbourne Jr. Lakeshore
Baptist Church http://lakeshorebaptist.net
http://rebuildlakeshore.com

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb

2022-09-24 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Hi Don,

This morning I sent Psalm 139 to remind a friend that God who created a 1000 
galaxies formed her and wrote each of her days... and then I realized that she 
will likely click on the link from her phone and then I thought of you.  Any 
more thoughts on a more mobile-friendly UI?

A few years ago, to the main https://crosswire.org website, I added per 
recommendation:



and it really helped quite a bit. Maybe I'll try that with SWORDWeb this 
afternoon and see if it makes things better or worse.

I use SWORDWeb from my phone regularly, and what I like is that if I double-tap 
the center Bible text column, chrome zooms in exactly on that column so it's 
pretty usable with that trick.

Anyway, by the time you read this, I may have done some experimenting with the 
header tag, above. Let me know if you have ideas for an interface which adapts 
better to screen size.

Thanks again for all your work,

Troy

On August 17, 2021 3:40:56 AM GMT+02:00, Don Elbourne  wrote:
>Troy,
>
>ok Great. Thanks.
>
>I have not messed with Docker yet. I guess I need to get with the times. lol 
>This will give me a good excuse. No promises, but I will check it out.
>
>-- 
>by grace alone,
>
>Pastor Don A. Elbourne Jr.
>Lakeshore Baptist Church
>http://lakeshorebaptist.net
>http://rebuildlakeshore.com
>
>On 8/14/2021 5:31 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>> Hi Don! I don't know if anyone is running the site other than CrossWire. 
>> We've helped a few people setup the software over the years but not sure if 
>> they continue to run it.
>> 
>> We've made an OCI container of the software to make it scalable and to more 
>> easily spin up an image:
>> 
>> https://hub.docker.com/r/crosswire/swordweb
>> 
>> Not sure who might be pulling that as a base or a spinning up an instance.
>> 
>> It's great to hear from you! I've often reused your html and style in other 
>> html UI apps which present SWORD functionality. If you install Bishop, it 
>> should look a bit familiar. 
>> 
>> Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-sword-project/id1399921911
>> 
>> Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>> 
>> We'd love to have you contribute to an improved user experience in our new 
>> world of diverse screen sizes, if you can find the time between pastoring.
>> 
>> Hope you've been well!
>> 
>> Troy
>> 
>> On August 14, 2021 5:36:47 AM GMT+02:00, Don Elbourne  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is anyone running SWORDWeb in the wild, other than
>> https://www.crosswire.org/study/
>> 
>> Just wondering. Its been a long time since we designed that. I have been
>> thinking about jumping back into the project and helping update it to be
>> mobile friendly, if there is any interest.
>> 
>> -- by grace alone, Pastor Don A. Elbourne Jr. Lakeshore Baptist
>> Church http://lakeshorebaptist.net http://rebuildlakeshore.com
>> 
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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb

2021-08-16 Thread Don Elbourne

Troy,

ok Great. Thanks.

I have not messed with Docker yet. I guess I need to get with the times. 
lol This will give me a good excuse. No promises, but I will check it out.


--
by grace alone,

Pastor Don A. Elbourne Jr.
Lakeshore Baptist Church
http://lakeshorebaptist.net
http://rebuildlakeshore.com

On 8/14/2021 5:31 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
Hi Don! I don't know if anyone is running the site other than 
CrossWire. We've helped a few people setup the software over the years 
but not sure if they continue to run it.


We've made an OCI container of the software to make it scalable and to 
more easily spin up an image:


https://hub.docker.com/r/crosswire/swordweb

Not sure who might be pulling that as a base or a spinning up an instance.

It's great to hear from you! I've often reused your html and style in 
other html UI apps which present SWORD functionality. If you install 
Bishop, it should look a bit familiar. 


Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-sword-project/id1399921911

Android: 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop


We'd love to have you contribute to an improved user experience in our 
new world of diverse screen sizes, if you can find the time between 
pastoring.


Hope you've been well!

Troy

On August 14, 2021 5:36:47 AM GMT+02:00, Don Elbourne 
 wrote:


Is anyone running SWORDWeb in the wild, other than
https://www.crosswire.org/study/

Just wondering. Its been a long time since we designed that. I have been
thinking about jumping back into the project and helping update it to be
mobile friendly, if there is any interest.

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb

2021-08-14 Thread Tobias Klein
Ezra Bible App could also be turned into a website with not so much 
effort. Actually it was a website originally and then I turned it into a 
desktop app.


The only thing necessary would be to run it's backend on a nodejs server 
instead of a local node instance and then replace the internal IPC calls 
to the backend with actual AJAX calls to the web-based backend.


I would estimate that the effort for this is somewhere < 1 week of work.

Best regards,
Tobias

On 8/14/21 5:36 AM, Don Elbourne wrote:
Is anyone running SWORDWeb in the wild, other than 
https://www.crosswire.org/study/


Just wondering. Its been a long time since we designed that. I have 
been thinking about jumping back into the project and helping update 
it to be mobile friendly, if there is any interest.



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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb

2021-08-14 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Hi Don! I don't know if anyone is running the site other than CrossWire. We've 
helped a few people setup the software over the years but not sure if they 
continue to run it.

We've made an OCI container of the software to make it scalable and to more 
easily spin up an image:

https://hub.docker.com/r/crosswire/swordweb

Not sure who might be pulling that as a base or a spinning up an instance.

It's great to hear from you! I've often reused your html and style in other 
html UI apps which present SWORD functionality. If you install Bishop, it 
should look a bit familiar. 

Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-sword-project/id1399921911

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop

We'd love to have you contribute to an improved user experience in our new 
world of diverse screen sizes, if you can find the time between pastoring.

Hope you've been well!

Troy

On August 14, 2021 5:36:47 AM GMT+02:00, Don Elbourne  wrote:
>Is anyone running SWORDWeb in the wild, other than 
>https://www.crosswire.org/study/
>
>Just wondering. Its been a long time since we designed that. I have been 
>thinking about jumping back into the project and helping update it to be 
>mobile friendly, if there is any interest.
>
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>
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>Lakeshore Baptist Church
>http://lakeshorebaptist.net
>http://rebuildlakeshore.com
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[sword-devel] SWORDWeb

2021-08-13 Thread Don Elbourne
Is anyone running SWORDWeb in the wild, other than 
https://www.crosswire.org/study/


Just wondering. Its been a long time since we designed that. I have been 
thinking about jumping back into the project and helping update it to be 
mobile friendly, if there is any interest.


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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb compile error, warnings

2018-04-19 Thread Peter Von Kaehne

Von: "Troy A. Griffitts" 
Hi Peter. That's a strange error:

./org/crosswire/swordweb/HorizontallyParallelTextRendering.java:9:
error: error while writing HorizontallyParallelTextRendering: could not
create parent directories


It sounds like a file permission problem or something similar. Are you trying 
to compile this thing on a Windows 8.3 file system? :)

Thanks! No, not Windows. But I needed to use sudo

Ok, the error is gone. What about the warnings?

Peter

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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb compile error, warnings

2018-04-19 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Hi Peter. That's a strange error: 

./org/crosswire/swordweb/HorizontallyParallelTextRendering.java:9:
error: error while writing HorizontallyParallelTextRendering: could not
create parent directories


It sounds like a file permission problem or something similar. Are you trying 
to compile this thing on a Windows 8.3 file system? :)

On April 19, 2018 1:46:00 PM MST, Peter von Kaehne  wrote:
>I am trying to install swordweb on a church website I am responsible
>for. 
>
>I run foul of the last steps, compiling the java within the swordweb
>webapp. Can you give me a hint if this is my problem or something wrong
>with the source?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Peter
>
>peter@myserver:~/Source/swordweb/src$ make
>javac -classpath /usr/share/tomcat7/jsp-
>api.jar:/usr/share/tomcat7/lib/servlet-api.jar:../webapp/WEB-
>INF/classes:../webapp/WEB-INF/lib/greekconverter.jar:../webapp/WEB-
>INF/lib/crosswire.jar -d ../webapp/WEB-INF/classes -sourcepath .
>./org/crosswire/swordweb/*.java
>./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java:8: warning: DTMNodeList is
>internal proprietary API and may be removed in a future release
>import com.sun.org.apache.xml.internal.dtm.ref.DTMNodeList;
>  ^
>./org/crosswire/swordweb/HorizontallyParallelTextRendering.java:9:
>error: error while writing HorizontallyParallelTextRendering: could not
>create parent directories
>public class HorizontallyParallelTextRendering implements
>ModuleTextRendering {
>   ^
>./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java:40: warning: DTMNodeList is
>internal proprietary API and may be removed in a future release
>DTMNodeList nodes =
>(DTMNodeList)xpath.evaluate(expression, inputSource,
>XPathConstants.NODESET);
>^
>./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java:40: warning: DTMNodeList is
>internal proprietary API and may be removed in a future release
>DTMNodeList nodes =
>(DTMNodeList)xpath.evaluate(expression, inputSource,
>XPathConstants.NODESET);
> ^
>Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java uses or overrides a
>deprecated API.
>Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details.
>Note: Some input files use unchecked or unsafe operations.
>Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
>1 error
>3 warnings
>Makefile:7: recipe for target '../webapp/WEB-
>INF/classes/org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.class' failed
>make: *** [../webapp/WEB-
>INF/classes/org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.class] Error 1
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[sword-devel] swordweb compile error, warnings

2018-04-19 Thread Peter von Kaehne
I am trying to install swordweb on a church website I am responsible
for. 

I run foul of the last steps, compiling the java within the swordweb
webapp. Can you give me a hint if this is my problem or something wrong
with the source?

Thanks!

Peter

peter@myserver:~/Source/swordweb/src$ make
javac -classpath /usr/share/tomcat7/jsp-
api.jar:/usr/share/tomcat7/lib/servlet-api.jar:../webapp/WEB-
INF/classes:../webapp/WEB-INF/lib/greekconverter.jar:../webapp/WEB-
INF/lib/crosswire.jar -d ../webapp/WEB-INF/classes -sourcepath .
./org/crosswire/swordweb/*.java
./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java:8: warning: DTMNodeList is
internal proprietary API and may be removed in a future release
import com.sun.org.apache.xml.internal.dtm.ref.DTMNodeList;
  ^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/HorizontallyParallelTextRendering.java:9:
error: error while writing HorizontallyParallelTextRendering: could not
create parent directories
public class HorizontallyParallelTextRendering implements
ModuleTextRendering {
   ^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java:40: warning: DTMNodeList is
internal proprietary API and may be removed in a future release
DTMNodeList nodes =
(DTMNodeList)xpath.evaluate(expression, inputSource,
XPathConstants.NODESET);
^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java:40: warning: DTMNodeList is
internal proprietary API and may be removed in a future release
DTMNodeList nodes =
(DTMNodeList)xpath.evaluate(expression, inputSource,
XPathConstants.NODESET);
 ^
Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java uses or overrides a
deprecated API.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details.
Note: Some input files use unchecked or unsafe operations.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
1 error
3 warnings
Makefile:7: recipe for target '../webapp/WEB-
INF/classes/org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.class' failed
make: *** [../webapp/WEB-
INF/classes/org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.class] Error 1

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb Docker image

2017-03-05 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Yes, docker just makes things easy to both get things up and running 
quickly without worrying about dependencies, or to spin up swordweb as a 
service in a fault-tolerant / load-balanced cluster using something like 
kubernetes.


Greg has optimized my Dockerfile to make it generate an image which save 
about 25% of the space.  Thanks Greg!  New container has been pushed and 
is also running at the same http://study.crosswire.org URL.


Troy


On 03/05/2017 11:16 AM, DM Smith wrote:

Troy and I were musing about this last week. He pointed out that there are 
frequent requests for SwordWeb functionality on another host. This appears to 
make it much simpler to get it up and running.

DM


On Mar 5, 2017, at 1:00 PM, David Haslam  wrote:

I expect I'm not the only list member that had to go and find out what on
earth Troy was talking about when he used the word "docker".

https://www.docker.com/

Even so, it would help to know a bit more on how Troy sees this advance the
aims of CrossWire.



Best regards,

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb Docker image

2017-03-05 Thread DM Smith
Troy and I were musing about this last week. He pointed out that there are 
frequent requests for SwordWeb functionality on another host. This appears to 
make it much simpler to get it up and running.

DM

> On Mar 5, 2017, at 1:00 PM, David Haslam  wrote:
> 
> I expect I'm not the only list member that had to go and find out what on
> earth Troy was talking about when he used the word "docker".
> 
> https://www.docker.com/
> 
> Even so, it would help to know a bit more on how Troy sees this advance the
> aims of CrossWire.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> David
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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb Docker image

2017-03-05 Thread David Haslam
I expect I'm not the only list member that had to go and find out what on
earth Troy was talking about when he used the word "docker".

https://www.docker.com/

Even so, it would help to know a bit more on how Troy sees this advance the
aims of CrossWire.



Best regards,

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb Docker image

2017-03-04 Thread Greg Hellings
I hadn't tried it, as I was on my phone responding to your initial email.
The Docker hub has the direct ability to build things easily off of a
linked repository. I just went through setting that up last week for an
image I'm using to test stuff at work. So getting automated builds without
needing to set things up too much should be pretty straightforward.

Probably the easiest way for you to base it would be to create a first
image that has Sword built, and so it will already have all those
components that you're currently copying in. Then base the SWORDWeb image
off of the Sword image, giving it access already to the parts that you're
building and copying in, currently. In this regard, Docker is akin to a git
repository, allowing you to then create a plethora of images based off the
Sword image and not needing to store the data for the Sword library more
than once.

Mainly I ask about the automated build process because - like in much of
the open source world - people want to see the source of the Dockerfiles
that are producing the build and, if they can see the build logs, they're
often even happier to trust what they're getting.

--Greg

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Troy A. Griffitts 
wrote:

> We're not building with automation yet. This is just a first attempt to
> make it work. The Dockerfile is committed in the swordweb repo but there
> are files that need to be built from SWORD (swordorbserver) and copied to
> the docker-template folder in swordweb before the Dockerfile can be used.
> This is certainly not ready (easy) for others to rebuild. Others can easily
> base a new container off of mine and apply updates, but automatically
> building this container is not supported by me right now.
> Did ya try it?
>
>
> On March 4, 2017 6:34:56 PM MST, Greg Hellings 
> wrote:
>>
>> Where is the repository with the Dockerfile? What triggers updates and
>> rebuilds of the container?
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2017 7:05 PM, "Troy A. Griffitts"  wrote:
>>
>>> I've compiled a docker image for SWORDWeb if anyone is interested in
>>> trying it out.  If you have docker installed (should work on mac, windows,
>>> and linux), and you'd like to, e.g., expose your SWORD modules installed in
>>> /home/me/.sword on port  you can try with a command like this:
>>>
>>> docker run --name SWORDWeb -e LOGLEVEL=DEBUG -e DEFAULTBIBLE=KJV -d -v
>>> /home/me/.sword:/usr/share/sword -p :8080 crosswire/swordweb
>>>
>>> Then you should be able to hit http://localhost: with your
>>> browser.  If you don't supply the -v parameter to mount your sword modules,
>>> the container comes with KJV, StrongsGreek, and StrongsHebrew installed.
>>>
>>> Hope it's useful (or at least fun).  I have it running on our server at:
>>>
>>> http://study.crosswire.org
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>>
>>> Troy
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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb Docker image

2017-03-04 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
We're not building with automation yet. This is just a first attempt to make it 
work. The Dockerfile is committed in the swordweb repo but there are files that 
need to be built from SWORD (swordorbserver) and copied to the docker-template 
folder in swordweb before the Dockerfile can be used. This is certainly not 
ready (easy) for others to rebuild. Others can easily base a new container off 
of mine and apply updates, but automatically building this container is not 
supported by me right now.
Did ya try it?

On March 4, 2017 6:34:56 PM MST, Greg Hellings  wrote:
>Where is the repository with the Dockerfile? What triggers updates and
>rebuilds of the container?
>
>On Mar 4, 2017 7:05 PM, "Troy A. Griffitts" 
>wrote:
>
>> I've compiled a docker image for SWORDWeb if anyone is interested in
>> trying it out.  If you have docker installed (should work on mac,
>windows,
>> and linux), and you'd like to, e.g., expose your SWORD modules
>installed in
>> /home/me/.sword on port  you can try with a command like this:
>>
>> docker run --name SWORDWeb -e LOGLEVEL=DEBUG -e DEFAULTBIBLE=KJV -d
>-v
>> /home/me/.sword:/usr/share/sword -p :8080 crosswire/swordweb
>>
>> Then you should be able to hit http://localhost: with your
>browser.
>> If you don't supply the -v parameter to mount your sword modules, the
>> container comes with KJV, StrongsGreek, and StrongsHebrew installed.
>>
>> Hope it's useful (or at least fun).  I have it running on our server
>at:
>>
>> http://study.crosswire.org
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Troy
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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb Docker image

2017-03-04 Thread Greg Hellings
Where is the repository with the Dockerfile? What triggers updates and
rebuilds of the container?

On Mar 4, 2017 7:05 PM, "Troy A. Griffitts"  wrote:

> I've compiled a docker image for SWORDWeb if anyone is interested in
> trying it out.  If you have docker installed (should work on mac, windows,
> and linux), and you'd like to, e.g., expose your SWORD modules installed in
> /home/me/.sword on port  you can try with a command like this:
>
> docker run --name SWORDWeb -e LOGLEVEL=DEBUG -e DEFAULTBIBLE=KJV -d -v
> /home/me/.sword:/usr/share/sword -p :8080 crosswire/swordweb
>
> Then you should be able to hit http://localhost: with your browser.
> If you don't supply the -v parameter to mount your sword modules, the
> container comes with KJV, StrongsGreek, and StrongsHebrew installed.
>
> Hope it's useful (or at least fun).  I have it running on our server at:
>
> http://study.crosswire.org
>
> Blessings,
>
> Troy
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[sword-devel] SWORDWeb Docker image

2017-03-04 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
I've compiled a docker image for SWORDWeb if anyone is interested in 
trying it out.  If you have docker installed (should work on mac, 
windows, and linux), and you'd like to, e.g., expose your SWORD modules 
installed in /home/me/.sword on port  you can try with a command 
like this:


docker run --name SWORDWeb -e LOGLEVEL=DEBUG -e DEFAULTBIBLE=KJV -d -v 
/home/me/.sword:/usr/share/sword -p :8080 crosswire/swordweb


Then you should be able to hit http://localhost: with your browser.  
If you don't supply the -v parameter to mount your sword modules, the 
container comes with KJV, StrongsGreek, and StrongsHebrew installed.


Hope it's useful (or at least fun).  I have it running on our server at:

http://study.crosswire.org

Blessings,

Troy

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[sword-devel] swordweb links

2012-07-26 Thread Daniel Owens
Is there a way to create a link to a passage in swordweb and specify the 
Bible module? I want it to go to the SBL GNT module.


Currently the link goes to: 
http://www.crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?key=Luke.1.5. But that 
goes to whatever default Bible (in my case, NASB appears, which is the 
generic default I think). I am guessing this is stupid easy, but I have 
not worked it out yet.


Daniel

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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb links

2012-07-26 Thread David Haslam
It's worth knowing about this wiki page, even though there's no mention of
swordweb.

http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:URI_Standard

It would be nice if this page were to be updated with the latest
information.

David



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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb links

2012-07-26 Thread Troy A. Griffitts

Hi Daniel,

Yeah, swordweb takes a number of parameter from most any page:

mod is what you want, e.g.,

http://www.crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?key=Luke.1.5mod=SBLGNT

A few other globals which might be interesting (with sample values:

setStyle=Parchment
lang=el




On 07/26/2012 06:43 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
Is there a way to create a link to a passage in swordweb and specify 
the Bible module? I want it to go to the SBL GNT module.


Currently the link goes to: 
http://www.crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?key=Luke.1.5. But that 
goes to whatever default Bible (in my case, NASB appears, which is the 
generic default I think). I am guessing this is stupid easy, but I 
have not worked it out yet.


Daniel

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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb links

2012-07-26 Thread Daniel Owens

Cool, thanks. That worked perfectly.

Daniel

On 07/26/2012 11:59 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Hi Daniel,

Yeah, swordweb takes a number of parameter from most any page:

mod is what you want, e.g.,

http://www.crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?key=Luke.1.5mod=SBLGNT

A few other globals which might be interesting (with sample values:

setStyle=Parchment
lang=el




On 07/26/2012 06:43 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
Is there a way to create a link to a passage in swordweb and specify 
the Bible module? I want it to go to the SBL GNT module.


Currently the link goes to: 
http://www.crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?key=Luke.1.5. But 
that goes to whatever default Bible (in my case, NASB appears, which 
is the generic default I think). I am guessing this is stupid easy, 
but I have not worked it out yet.


Daniel

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[sword-devel] SWORDWeb translators

2010-07-16 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Dear all,

Peter von Kaehne has done some tremendous work internationalizing our
web frontend and we could really now use some translators.

Translation tools are easy to use and we have a web application all
ready for you to begin translation work-- no installing or programming
necessary.

Have a look here:

http://crosswire.org/study

And if you would be interesting in updating one of the existing
translations, or adding a new one, please post on sword-devel so others
know who has volunteered for what language and I will contact you
privately with a login id to begin work.

Thank you for your consideration, and a big thank you to Peter for all
his laborious work to get things working so well!

Troy



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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb build Problems

2010-02-15 Thread Thomas Gollenia
Hi!


normally, it shouldn't, as MacOS uses bash as shell. However, i tried
the script again and it left out the org folder. I changed the line to
the following (removed the slash after org):

 cp -a classes/org ${instdir}/WEB-INF/classes/


and it worked. It seems as if cp copied all files IN org, but not org
itself...

greetings,


Thomas

Am 15.02.10 02:04, schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
 Dear Thomas,
 
 Glad you got things working.  Thanks for your persistence.
 
 Regarding your issue, here's the question, I guess.  Does this line from
 the Makefile work differently on the mac than it does on linux?
 
  cp -a classes/org/ ${instdir}/WEB-INF/classes/
 
 
 
 
 Thomas Gollenia wrote:
 Hi!


 It finally works! (after four days...). The corba/java install script
 copied the files in

 .../swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/crosswire/sword/orb/SwordOrb.class

 but it left out the org - don't know why. I added it manually, and it
 worked! maybe there's an error with the install-script?

 Grateful thanks for your Help!

 greetings,


 Thomas



 Am 14.02.10 17:53, schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
 Thomas, you shouldn't need to copy then anywhere, the make install will
 put them in the correct place if instdir in the Makefile is pointing to
 your swordweb/webapps/ folder.

 Check one file for me.  The correct location, for, say, SwordOrb.class
 would be:

 .../swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/org/crosswire/sword/orb/SwordOrb.class



 Thomas Gollenia wrote:
 Hi Troy,

 That's what I did. The classes alre installed in the
 swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes folder, the one the Makefile instdir
 points to. In this folder, teres a crosswire/sword/orb folder with 26
 .class-files (_SWMgrStub.class etc). The error is still the same... I
 have copied these classfiles in any directory which is possible - no
 effect...

 greetings,

 Thomas


 Dear Thomas.  The error you are seeing: package
 org.crosswire.sword.org
 does not exist, is due to java not finding the corba classes.  From
 your
 sword/bindings/corba/java folder, where is your 'make install'
 installing to?  It needs to install to the webapp/WEB-INF/classes
 folder
 where you are trying to compile swordweb.

 Hope this helps,

 Troy

 Thomas Gollenia wrote:
 Hi!

 for some reason, I cannot compile the swordweb/src/Makefile on my Mac
 (10.6.2). I changed the Tomcat-Path correctly, also the wrong
 common/lib/... to lib/..., it still spills out 34 Error Messages. The
 corba/java bindings have been compiled and installed correctly in
 swordweb/webapp  - what could be wrong here?


 javac -classpath
 /Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/jsp-api.jar:/Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/servlet-api.jar:../webapp/WEB-INF/classes:../webapp/WEB-INF/lib/greekconverter.jar:/Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/lib/crosswire.jar



 -d /Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes -sourcepath .
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/*.java
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/HorizontallyParallelTextRendering.java:7:
 package org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.*;
 ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:4: package
 org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
   ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:7: cannot find
 symbol
 symbol  : class SWModule
 location: interface org.crosswire.swordweb.ModuleEntryRenderer
 public String render(SWModule module, String key);
  ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/RangeInformation.java:4: package
 org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
   ^
 . and so on until

 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/VerticallyParallelTextRendering.java:17:
 cannot
 find symbol
 symbol  : class SWModule
 location: class
 org.crosswire.swordweb.VerticallyParallelTextRendering
 SWModule mod = (SWModule) moduleEnum.nextElement();
 ^
 Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java uses or overrides a
 deprecated API.
 Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details.
 Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/StandardEntryRenderer.java uses
 unchecked
 or unsafe operations.
 Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
 34 errors
 make: ***
 [../webapp/WEB-INF/classes/org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.class]
 Error 1


 greetings,


 Thommy

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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb build Problems

2010-02-15 Thread Manfred Bergmann
cp on Mac by default is a BSD cp not a GNU cp (in fact all fileutils are BSD).
They may behave different?


Manfred


Am 15.02.2010 um 09:38 schrieb Thomas Gollenia:

 Hi!
 
 
 normally, it shouldn't, as MacOS uses bash as shell. However, i tried
 the script again and it left out the org folder. I changed the line to
 the following (removed the slash after org):
 
 cp -a classes/org ${instdir}/WEB-INF/classes/
 
 
 and it worked. It seems as if cp copied all files IN org, but not org
 itself...
 
 greetings,
 
 
 Thomas
 
 Am 15.02.10 02:04, schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
 Dear Thomas,
 
 Glad you got things working.  Thanks for your persistence.
 
 Regarding your issue, here's the question, I guess.  Does this line from
 the Makefile work differently on the mac than it does on linux?
 
 cp -a classes/org/ ${instdir}/WEB-INF/classes/
 
 
 
 
 Thomas Gollenia wrote:
 Hi!
 
 
 It finally works! (after four days...). The corba/java install script
 copied the files in
 
 .../swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/crosswire/sword/orb/SwordOrb.class
 
 but it left out the org - don't know why. I added it manually, and it
 worked! maybe there's an error with the install-script?
 
 Grateful thanks for your Help!
 
 greetings,
 
 
 Thomas
 
 
 
 Am 14.02.10 17:53, schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
 Thomas, you shouldn't need to copy then anywhere, the make install will
 put them in the correct place if instdir in the Makefile is pointing to
 your swordweb/webapps/ folder.
 
 Check one file for me.  The correct location, for, say, SwordOrb.class
 would be:
 
 .../swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/org/crosswire/sword/orb/SwordOrb.class
 
 
 
 Thomas Gollenia wrote:
 Hi Troy,
 
 That's what I did. The classes alre installed in the
 swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes folder, the one the Makefile instdir
 points to. In this folder, teres a crosswire/sword/orb folder with 26
 .class-files (_SWMgrStub.class etc). The error is still the same... I
 have copied these classfiles in any directory which is possible - no
 effect...
 
 greetings,
 
 Thomas
 
 
 Dear Thomas.  The error you are seeing: package
 org.crosswire.sword.org
 does not exist, is due to java not finding the corba classes.  From
 your
 sword/bindings/corba/java folder, where is your 'make install'
 installing to?  It needs to install to the webapp/WEB-INF/classes
 folder
 where you are trying to compile swordweb.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Troy
 
 Thomas Gollenia wrote:
 Hi!
 
 for some reason, I cannot compile the swordweb/src/Makefile on my Mac
 (10.6.2). I changed the Tomcat-Path correctly, also the wrong
 common/lib/... to lib/..., it still spills out 34 Error Messages. The
 corba/java bindings have been compiled and installed correctly in
 swordweb/webapp  - what could be wrong here?
 
 
 javac -classpath
 /Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/jsp-api.jar:/Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/servlet-api.jar:../webapp/WEB-INF/classes:../webapp/WEB-INF/lib/greekconverter.jar:/Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/lib/crosswire.jar
 
 
 
 -d /Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes -sourcepath .
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/*.java
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/HorizontallyParallelTextRendering.java:7:
 package org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.*;
 ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:4: package
 org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
  ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:7: cannot find
 symbol
 symbol  : class SWModule
 location: interface org.crosswire.swordweb.ModuleEntryRenderer
public String render(SWModule module, String key);
 ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/RangeInformation.java:4: package
 org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
  ^
 . and so on until
 
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/VerticallyParallelTextRendering.java:17:
 cannot
 find symbol
 symbol  : class SWModule
 location: class
 org.crosswire.swordweb.VerticallyParallelTextRendering
SWModule mod = (SWModule) moduleEnum.nextElement();
^
 Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java uses or overrides a
 deprecated API.
 Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details.
 Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/StandardEntryRenderer.java uses
 unchecked
 or unsafe operations.
 Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
 34 errors
 make: ***
 [../webapp/WEB-INF/classes/org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.class]
 Error 1
 
 
 greetings,
 
 
 Thommy
 
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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb build Problems

2010-02-15 Thread Thomas Gollenia
It seems as if there actually IS a difference.
I don't know if you're interested in making sword/swordweb
Mac-compatible. If so, there are a few other adjustments one sould make
(e.g. the omniorb directory (via macports in /opt/local)) and the ICU
library (which didn't work, so I used swordicu)). Of course, i could
collect all the adjustments so you can include them in the Makefiles
with a Mac option or something (or at least some Information on the
website). I personally installed swordweb as MacSword is not my thing
(especially the way it treats strongs), and i liked the simple yet
powerful swordweb-interface...


Am 15.02.10 11:19, schrieb Manfred Bergmann:
 cp on Mac by default is a BSD cp not a GNU cp (in fact all fileutils are BSD).
 They may behave different?
 
 
 Manfred
 
 
 Am 15.02.2010 um 09:38 schrieb Thomas Gollenia:
 
 Hi!


 normally, it shouldn't, as MacOS uses bash as shell. However, i tried
 the script again and it left out the org folder. I changed the line to
 the following (removed the slash after org):

 cp -a classes/org ${instdir}/WEB-INF/classes/


 and it worked. It seems as if cp copied all files IN org, but not org
 itself...

 greetings,


 Thomas

 Am 15.02.10 02:04, schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
 Dear Thomas,

 Glad you got things working.  Thanks for your persistence.

 Regarding your issue, here's the question, I guess.  Does this line from
 the Makefile work differently on the mac than it does on linux?

 cp -a classes/org/ ${instdir}/WEB-INF/classes/




 Thomas Gollenia wrote:
 Hi!


 It finally works! (after four days...). The corba/java install script
 copied the files in

 .../swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/crosswire/sword/orb/SwordOrb.class

 but it left out the org - don't know why. I added it manually, and it
 worked! maybe there's an error with the install-script?

 Grateful thanks for your Help!

 greetings,


 Thomas



 Am 14.02.10 17:53, schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
 Thomas, you shouldn't need to copy then anywhere, the make install will
 put them in the correct place if instdir in the Makefile is pointing to
 your swordweb/webapps/ folder.

 Check one file for me.  The correct location, for, say, SwordOrb.class
 would be:

 .../swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/org/crosswire/sword/orb/SwordOrb.class



 Thomas Gollenia wrote:
 Hi Troy,

 That's what I did. The classes alre installed in the
 swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes folder, the one the Makefile instdir
 points to. In this folder, teres a crosswire/sword/orb folder with 26
 .class-files (_SWMgrStub.class etc). The error is still the same... I
 have copied these classfiles in any directory which is possible - no
 effect...

 greetings,

 Thomas


 Dear Thomas.  The error you are seeing: package
 org.crosswire.sword.org
 does not exist, is due to java not finding the corba classes.  From
 your
 sword/bindings/corba/java folder, where is your 'make install'
 installing to?  It needs to install to the webapp/WEB-INF/classes
 folder
 where you are trying to compile swordweb.

 Hope this helps,

 Troy

 Thomas Gollenia wrote:
 Hi!

 for some reason, I cannot compile the swordweb/src/Makefile on my Mac
 (10.6.2). I changed the Tomcat-Path correctly, also the wrong
 common/lib/... to lib/..., it still spills out 34 Error Messages. The
 corba/java bindings have been compiled and installed correctly in
 swordweb/webapp  - what could be wrong here?


 javac -classpath
 /Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/jsp-api.jar:/Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/servlet-api.jar:../webapp/WEB-INF/classes:../webapp/WEB-INF/lib/greekconverter.jar:/Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/lib/crosswire.jar



 -d /Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes -sourcepath .
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/*.java
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/HorizontallyParallelTextRendering.java:7:
 package org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.*;
 ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:4: package
 org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
  ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:7: cannot find
 symbol
 symbol  : class SWModule
 location: interface org.crosswire.swordweb.ModuleEntryRenderer
public String render(SWModule module, String key);
 ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/RangeInformation.java:4: package
 org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
  ^
 . and so on until

 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/VerticallyParallelTextRendering.java:17:
 cannot
 find symbol
 symbol  : class SWModule
 location: class
 org.crosswire.swordweb.VerticallyParallelTextRendering
SWModule mod = (SWModule) moduleEnum.nextElement();
^
 Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java uses or overrides a
 deprecated API.
 Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details.
 Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/StandardEntryRenderer.java 

Re: [sword-devel] swordweb build Problems

2010-02-15 Thread Manfred Bergmann

Am 15.02.2010 um 11:31 schrieb Thomas Gollenia:

 It seems as if there actually IS a difference.
 I don't know if you're interested in making sword/swordweb
 Mac-compatible. If so, there are a few other adjustments one sould make
 (e.g. the omniorb directory (via macports in /opt/local)) and the ICU

I wouldn't actually add dependencies like MacPorts if there isn't another way.

 library (which didn't work, so I used swordicu)). Of course, i could

The OS X provided ICU library works but it is not the complete ICU suite. Many 
libraries are missing, also the header files.

 collect all the adjustments so you can include them in the Makefiles
 with a Mac option or something (or at least some Information on the
 website). I personally installed swordweb as MacSword is not my thing
 (especially the way it treats strongs), and i liked the simple yet

We use the default SWORD HTML filter for showing Strong's and other stuff.
It would just be a matter of creating a custom HTML filter.


Manfred

 
 Am 15.02.10 11:19, schrieb Manfred Bergmann:
 cp on Mac by default is a BSD cp not a GNU cp (in fact all fileutils are 
 BSD).
 They may behave different?
 
 
 Manfred
 
 
 Am 15.02.2010 um 09:38 schrieb Thomas Gollenia:
 
 Hi!
 
 
 normally, it shouldn't, as MacOS uses bash as shell. However, i tried
 the script again and it left out the org folder. I changed the line to
 the following (removed the slash after org):
 
 cp -a classes/org ${instdir}/WEB-INF/classes/
 
 
 and it worked. It seems as if cp copied all files IN org, but not org
 itself...
 
 greetings,
 
 
 Thomas
 
 Am 15.02.10 02:04, schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
 Dear Thomas,
 
 Glad you got things working.  Thanks for your persistence.
 
 Regarding your issue, here's the question, I guess.  Does this line from
 the Makefile work differently on the mac than it does on linux?
 
 cp -a classes/org/ ${instdir}/WEB-INF/classes/
 
 
 
 
 Thomas Gollenia wrote:
 Hi!
 
 
 It finally works! (after four days...). The corba/java install script
 copied the files in
 
 .../swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/crosswire/sword/orb/SwordOrb.class
 
 but it left out the org - don't know why. I added it manually, and it
 worked! maybe there's an error with the install-script?
 
 Grateful thanks for your Help!
 
 greetings,
 
 
 Thomas
 
 
 
 Am 14.02.10 17:53, schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
 Thomas, you shouldn't need to copy then anywhere, the make install will
 put them in the correct place if instdir in the Makefile is pointing to
 your swordweb/webapps/ folder.
 
 Check one file for me.  The correct location, for, say, SwordOrb.class
 would be:
 
 .../swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/org/crosswire/sword/orb/SwordOrb.class
 
 
 
 Thomas Gollenia wrote:
 Hi Troy,
 
 That's what I did. The classes alre installed in the
 swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes folder, the one the Makefile instdir
 points to. In this folder, teres a crosswire/sword/orb folder with 26
 .class-files (_SWMgrStub.class etc). The error is still the same... I
 have copied these classfiles in any directory which is possible - no
 effect...
 
 greetings,
 
 Thomas
 
 
 Dear Thomas.  The error you are seeing: package
 org.crosswire.sword.org
 does not exist, is due to java not finding the corba classes.  From
 your
 sword/bindings/corba/java folder, where is your 'make install'
 installing to?  It needs to install to the webapp/WEB-INF/classes
 folder
 where you are trying to compile swordweb.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Troy
 
 Thomas Gollenia wrote:
 Hi!
 
 for some reason, I cannot compile the swordweb/src/Makefile on my Mac
 (10.6.2). I changed the Tomcat-Path correctly, also the wrong
 common/lib/... to lib/..., it still spills out 34 Error Messages. The
 corba/java bindings have been compiled and installed correctly in
 swordweb/webapp  - what could be wrong here?
 
 
 javac -classpath
 /Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/jsp-api.jar:/Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/servlet-api.jar:../webapp/WEB-INF/classes:../webapp/WEB-INF/lib/greekconverter.jar:/Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/lib/crosswire.jar
 
 
 
 -d /Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes -sourcepath .
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/*.java
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/HorizontallyParallelTextRendering.java:7:
 package org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.*;
 ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:4: package
 org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
 ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:7: cannot find
 symbol
 symbol  : class SWModule
 location: interface org.crosswire.swordweb.ModuleEntryRenderer
   public String render(SWModule module, String key);
^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/RangeInformation.java:4: package
 org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
 ^
 . and so on until
 
 

[sword-devel] swordweb build Problems

2010-02-14 Thread Thomas Gollenia
Hi!

for some reason, I cannot compile the swordweb/src/Makefile on my Mac
(10.6.2). I changed the Tomcat-Path correctly, also the wrong
common/lib/... to lib/..., it still spills out 34 Error Messages. The
corba/java bindings have been compiled and installed correctly in
swordweb/webapp  - what could be wrong here?


javac -classpath
/Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/jsp-api.jar:/Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/servlet-api.jar:../webapp/WEB-INF/classes:../webapp/WEB-INF/lib/greekconverter.jar:/Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/lib/crosswire.jar
-d /Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes -sourcepath .
./org/crosswire/swordweb/*.java
./org/crosswire/swordweb/HorizontallyParallelTextRendering.java:7:
package org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
import org.crosswire.sword.orb.*;
^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:4: package
org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
  ^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:7: cannot find symbol
symbol  : class SWModule
location: interface org.crosswire.swordweb.ModuleEntryRenderer
public String render(SWModule module, String key);
 ^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/RangeInformation.java:4: package
org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
  ^
. and so on until

./org/crosswire/swordweb/VerticallyParallelTextRendering.java:17: cannot
find symbol
symbol  : class SWModule
location: class org.crosswire.swordweb.VerticallyParallelTextRendering
SWModule mod = (SWModule) moduleEnum.nextElement();
^
Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java uses or overrides a
deprecated API.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details.
Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/StandardEntryRenderer.java uses unchecked
or unsafe operations.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
34 errors
make: ***
[../webapp/WEB-INF/classes/org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.class]
Error 1


greetings,


Thommy

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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb build Problems

2010-02-14 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Dear Thomas.  The error you are seeing: package org.crosswire.sword.org 
does not exist, is due to java not finding the corba classes.  From your 
sword/bindings/corba/java folder, where is your 'make install' 
installing to?  It needs to install to the webapp/WEB-INF/classes folder 
where you are trying to compile swordweb.


Hope this helps,

Troy

Thomas Gollenia wrote:

Hi!

for some reason, I cannot compile the swordweb/src/Makefile on my Mac
(10.6.2). I changed the Tomcat-Path correctly, also the wrong
common/lib/... to lib/..., it still spills out 34 Error Messages. The
corba/java bindings have been compiled and installed correctly in
swordweb/webapp  - what could be wrong here?


javac -classpath
/Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/jsp-api.jar:/Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/servlet-api.jar:../webapp/WEB-INF/classes:../webapp/WEB-INF/lib/greekconverter.jar:/Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/lib/crosswire.jar
-d /Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes -sourcepath .
./org/crosswire/swordweb/*.java
./org/crosswire/swordweb/HorizontallyParallelTextRendering.java:7:
package org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
import org.crosswire.sword.orb.*;
^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:4: package
org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
  ^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:7: cannot find symbol
symbol  : class SWModule
location: interface org.crosswire.swordweb.ModuleEntryRenderer
public String render(SWModule module, String key);
 ^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/RangeInformation.java:4: package
org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
  ^
. and so on until

./org/crosswire/swordweb/VerticallyParallelTextRendering.java:17: cannot
find symbol
symbol  : class SWModule
location: class org.crosswire.swordweb.VerticallyParallelTextRendering
SWModule mod = (SWModule) moduleEnum.nextElement();
^
Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java uses or overrides a
deprecated API.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details.
Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/StandardEntryRenderer.java uses unchecked
or unsafe operations.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
34 errors
make: ***
[../webapp/WEB-INF/classes/org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.class]
Error 1


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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb build Problems

2010-02-14 Thread Thomas Gollenia
Hi Troy,

That's what I did. The classes alre installed in the
swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes folder, the one the Makefile instdir
points to. In this folder, teres a crosswire/sword/orb folder with 26
.class-files (_SWMgrStub.class etc). The error is still the same... I
have copied these classfiles in any directory which is possible - no
effect...

greetings,

Thomas


 Dear Thomas.  The error you are seeing: package org.crosswire.sword.org
 does not exist, is due to java not finding the corba classes.  From your
 sword/bindings/corba/java folder, where is your 'make install'
 installing to?  It needs to install to the webapp/WEB-INF/classes folder
 where you are trying to compile swordweb.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Troy
 
 Thomas Gollenia wrote:
 Hi!

 for some reason, I cannot compile the swordweb/src/Makefile on my Mac
 (10.6.2). I changed the Tomcat-Path correctly, also the wrong
 common/lib/... to lib/..., it still spills out 34 Error Messages. The
 corba/java bindings have been compiled and installed correctly in
 swordweb/webapp  - what could be wrong here?


 javac -classpath
 /Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/jsp-api.jar:/Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/servlet-api.jar:../webapp/WEB-INF/classes:../webapp/WEB-INF/lib/greekconverter.jar:/Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/lib/crosswire.jar

 -d /Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes -sourcepath .
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/*.java
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/HorizontallyParallelTextRendering.java:7:
 package org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.*;
 ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:4: package
 org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
   ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:7: cannot find symbol
 symbol  : class SWModule
 location: interface org.crosswire.swordweb.ModuleEntryRenderer
 public String render(SWModule module, String key);
  ^
 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/RangeInformation.java:4: package
 org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
 import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
   ^
 . and so on until

 ./org/crosswire/swordweb/VerticallyParallelTextRendering.java:17: cannot
 find symbol
 symbol  : class SWModule
 location: class org.crosswire.swordweb.VerticallyParallelTextRendering
 SWModule mod = (SWModule) moduleEnum.nextElement();
 ^
 Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java uses or overrides a
 deprecated API.
 Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details.
 Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/StandardEntryRenderer.java uses unchecked
 or unsafe operations.
 Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
 34 errors
 make: ***
 [../webapp/WEB-INF/classes/org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.class]
 Error 1


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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb build Problems

2010-02-14 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Thomas, you shouldn't need to copy then anywhere, the make install will 
put them in the correct place if instdir in the Makefile is pointing to 
your swordweb/webapps/ folder.


Check one file for me.  The correct location, for, say, SwordOrb.class 
would be:


.../swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/org/crosswire/sword/orb/SwordOrb.class


Thomas Gollenia wrote:

Hi Troy,

That's what I did. The classes alre installed in the
swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes folder, the one the Makefile instdir
points to. In this folder, teres a crosswire/sword/orb folder with 26
.class-files (_SWMgrStub.class etc). The error is still the same... I
have copied these classfiles in any directory which is possible - no
effect...

greetings,

Thomas



Dear Thomas.  The error you are seeing: package org.crosswire.sword.org
does not exist, is due to java not finding the corba classes.  From your
sword/bindings/corba/java folder, where is your 'make install'
installing to?  It needs to install to the webapp/WEB-INF/classes folder
where you are trying to compile swordweb.

Hope this helps,

Troy

Thomas Gollenia wrote:

Hi!

for some reason, I cannot compile the swordweb/src/Makefile on my Mac
(10.6.2). I changed the Tomcat-Path correctly, also the wrong
common/lib/... to lib/..., it still spills out 34 Error Messages. The
corba/java bindings have been compiled and installed correctly in
swordweb/webapp  - what could be wrong here?


javac -classpath
/Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/jsp-api.jar:/Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/servlet-api.jar:../webapp/WEB-INF/classes:../webapp/WEB-INF/lib/greekconverter.jar:/Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/lib/crosswire.jar

-d /Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes -sourcepath .
./org/crosswire/swordweb/*.java
./org/crosswire/swordweb/HorizontallyParallelTextRendering.java:7:
package org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
import org.crosswire.sword.orb.*;
^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:4: package
org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
  ^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:7: cannot find symbol
symbol  : class SWModule
location: interface org.crosswire.swordweb.ModuleEntryRenderer
public String render(SWModule module, String key);
 ^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/RangeInformation.java:4: package
org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
  ^
. and so on until

./org/crosswire/swordweb/VerticallyParallelTextRendering.java:17: cannot
find symbol
symbol  : class SWModule
location: class org.crosswire.swordweb.VerticallyParallelTextRendering
SWModule mod = (SWModule) moduleEnum.nextElement();
^
Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java uses or overrides a
deprecated API.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details.
Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/StandardEntryRenderer.java uses unchecked
or unsafe operations.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
34 errors
make: ***
[../webapp/WEB-INF/classes/org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.class]
Error 1


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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb build Problems

2010-02-14 Thread Troy A. Griffitts

Dear Thomas,

Glad you got things working.  Thanks for your persistence.

Regarding your issue, here's the question, I guess.  Does this line from 
the Makefile work differently on the mac than it does on linux?


 cp -a classes/org/ ${instdir}/WEB-INF/classes/




Thomas Gollenia wrote:

Hi!


It finally works! (after four days...). The corba/java install script
copied the files in

.../swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/crosswire/sword/orb/SwordOrb.class

but it left out the org - don't know why. I added it manually, and it
worked! maybe there's an error with the install-script?

Grateful thanks for your Help!

greetings,


Thomas



Am 14.02.10 17:53, schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:

Thomas, you shouldn't need to copy then anywhere, the make install will
put them in the correct place if instdir in the Makefile is pointing to
your swordweb/webapps/ folder.

Check one file for me.  The correct location, for, say, SwordOrb.class
would be:

.../swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/org/crosswire/sword/orb/SwordOrb.class


Thomas Gollenia wrote:

Hi Troy,

That's what I did. The classes alre installed in the
swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes folder, the one the Makefile instdir
points to. In this folder, teres a crosswire/sword/orb folder with 26
.class-files (_SWMgrStub.class etc). The error is still the same... I
have copied these classfiles in any directory which is possible - no
effect...

greetings,

Thomas



Dear Thomas.  The error you are seeing: package org.crosswire.sword.org
does not exist, is due to java not finding the corba classes.  From your
sword/bindings/corba/java folder, where is your 'make install'
installing to?  It needs to install to the webapp/WEB-INF/classes folder
where you are trying to compile swordweb.

Hope this helps,

Troy

Thomas Gollenia wrote:

Hi!

for some reason, I cannot compile the swordweb/src/Makefile on my Mac
(10.6.2). I changed the Tomcat-Path correctly, also the wrong
common/lib/... to lib/..., it still spills out 34 Error Messages. The
corba/java bindings have been compiled and installed correctly in
swordweb/webapp  - what could be wrong here?


javac -classpath
/Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/jsp-api.jar:/Library/Tomcat/Home/lib/servlet-api.jar:../webapp/WEB-INF/classes:../webapp/WEB-INF/lib/greekconverter.jar:/Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/lib/crosswire.jar


-d /Users/Thomas/work/swordweb/webapp/WEB-INF/classes -sourcepath .
./org/crosswire/swordweb/*.java
./org/crosswire/swordweb/HorizontallyParallelTextRendering.java:7:
package org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
import org.crosswire.sword.orb.*;
^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:4: package
org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
  ^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/ModuleEntryRenderer.java:7: cannot find symbol
symbol  : class SWModule
location: interface org.crosswire.swordweb.ModuleEntryRenderer
public String render(SWModule module, String key);
 ^
./org/crosswire/swordweb/RangeInformation.java:4: package
org.crosswire.sword.orb does not exist
import org.crosswire.sword.orb.SWModule;
  ^
. and so on until

./org/crosswire/swordweb/VerticallyParallelTextRendering.java:17:
cannot
find symbol
symbol  : class SWModule
location: class org.crosswire.swordweb.VerticallyParallelTextRendering
SWModule mod = (SWModule) moduleEnum.nextElement();
^
Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.java uses or overrides a
deprecated API.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details.
Note: ./org/crosswire/swordweb/StandardEntryRenderer.java uses
unchecked
or unsafe operations.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
34 errors
make: ***
[../webapp/WEB-INF/classes/org/crosswire/swordweb/PerseusUtils.class]
Error 1


greetings,


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Re: [sword-devel] SwordWeb and Javascript/AJAX

2009-02-23 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote:
 Just to get some feedback here :

 Currently Swordweb largely does not rely on Javascript - and the few
 places where it does use Javascript, can be turned off + functionality
 is then done on the server.

 We are thinking of hugely expanding the use of javascript but that would
 probably require to dump the ability to turn JS off  unless we want to
 duplicate lots and lots of code.

 A few years back it seems this would have been a huge issue, but now I
 find that every other site is using AJAX to their hearts content without
 people complaining about it anymore.

 We will package the existing site as a release after fixing the the last
 few bugs of which we are aware, so that those who want/need a swordweb
 without AJAX can get it.

 So, my question is - would you feel this is a bad move?

No, so long as you make the back button work if JS ends up used for
navigation (and preferably support functionality like Open in New
Tab and bookmarking the current page, so that I can relatively easily
explore related passage X in a separate window without disturbing my
current position, part of what tabs are for).

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Re: [sword-devel] SwordWeb and Javascript/AJAX

2009-02-23 Thread David Haslam

Having scripting permanently switched on is considered by some security
conscious users as a security risk for drive-by malware infections. This has
been discussed in some depth in various episodes of the weekly Security Now!
podcasts hosted at  http://grc.com/ grc.com .

One solution that has been recommended from time to time is a Firefox add-on
called  http://noscript.net/ NoScript .

Having said that, it is true that many online banking and commerce sites use
Javascript, but these would normally be using https to ensure the
transactions are secure.

Many webmail or groupware clients such as the  http://www.horde.org/ Horde 
project also make use of Javascript.

The main point to address if we move to using scripting is to ensure that
the programming does not become vulnerable to 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_scripting XSS  exploits.


-- David


Peter von Kaehne wrote:
 
 Just to get some feedback here :
 
 Currently Swordweb largely does not rely on Javascript - and the few
 places where it does use Javascript, can be turned off + functionality
 is then done on the server.
 
 We are thinking of hugely expanding the use of javascript but that would
 probably require to dump the ability to turn JS off  unless we want to
 duplicate lots and lots of code.
 
 A few years back it seems this would have been a huge issue, but now I
 find that every other site is using AJAX to their hearts content without
 people complaining about it anymore.
 
 We will package the existing site as a release after fixing the the last
 few bugs of which we are aware, so that those who want/need a swordweb
 without AJAX can get it.
 
 So, my question is - would you feel this is a bad move?
 
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[sword-devel] SwordWeb for Beta modules down?

2008-12-12 Thread Brian J. Dumont
Hi all,

In trying to do some beta testing, the link to SwordWeb for beta modules:

http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/swordweb/webapp

seems down. 

Any ideas?

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Re: [sword-devel] SwordWeb for Beta modules down?

2008-12-12 Thread DM Smith
Brian J. Dumont wrote:
 Hi all,

 In trying to do some beta testing, the link to SwordWeb for beta modules:

 http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/swordweb/webapp

 seems down. 

 Any ideas?

 Thanks
   
I forgot that was there!

My guess is that I need to recompile it. Don't know why it would break. 
(Troy, do any ideas come immediately to mind?)

I don't think I'll be able to get to it until Monday as I am going out 
of town for the weekend.


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Re: [sword-devel] Swordweb, license, gutting it and acknowledgements

2008-08-21 Thread Peter von Kaehne
The post below was answered in IRC. The application is GPL. the footer with teh 
logos can get removed.

Peter
 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:00:41 +0200
 Von: Peter von Kaehne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 An: SWORD Developers\' Collaboration Forum sword-devel@crosswire.org
 Betreff: [sword-devel] Swordweb, license, gutting it and acknowledgements

 Having finally successfully installed Swordweb - thanks Troy, Greg and DM!
 - I am now looking at what i can do with it.
 
 I could not find a licence text. I presume it is GPL considering that
 everything else from Crosswire is GPL.
 
 Is this correct?
 
 Secondly, if I want now adapt it to the use I intend - incorporating it
 into our church website, removing stuff which is irrelevant for our use etc -
 how much shall I leave the acknowledgemnts in the footer intact? I do not
 want to claim which is not mine, but I also do not want Crosswire, ABS and
 SBL receive the blame  for my aesthetical or web programming disasters.
 
 So, what shall I do there? 
 
 Thanks!
 
 Peter
 
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[sword-devel] Swordweb, license, gutting it and acknowledgements

2008-08-20 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Having finally successfully installed Swordweb - thanks Troy, Greg and DM! - I 
am now looking at what i can do with it.

I could not find a licence text. I presume it is GPL considering that 
everything else from Crosswire is GPL.

Is this correct?

Secondly, if I want now adapt it to the use I intend - incorporating it into 
our church website, removing stuff which is irrelevant for our use etc - how 
much shall I leave the acknowledgemnts in the footer intact? I do not want to 
claim which is not mine, but I also do not want Crosswire, ABS and SBL receive 
the blame  for my aesthetical or web programming disasters.

So, what shall I do there? 

Thanks!

Peter

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb / MacOSX

2008-02-04 Thread Greg Hellings
Troy,

I've been working on this, but so far I am stuck with trying to
compile the orbitcpp.  The latest version of it that I can locate is
dated back on 2004 and the C++ part compiles fine, but then I keep
getting errors about missing backend libraries for the idl-compiler.
I could try to tackle the Java portion, if that would be sufficient,
but I'd rather try to track down either an updated version of the
orbitcpp or some sort of patch for Mac.

Is the Java client/server portion sufficient, or does the C++ part
need to be done as well?

--Greg

On Feb 2, 2008 6:02 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Greg,

 Thank you!  In the bindings/corba/orbitcpp directory the targets of the
 makefile include a 'server' and 'testclient'.  If you can run the server
 successfully, it should output an IOR:x string.  In another window,
 if you run the testclient with this string as a parameter, it should try
 to contact the server and make a few basic requests.  If this succeeds,
 then we should be good to go.

 If all this succeeds and you get really ambitious, you could try to
 compile and run the bindings/corba/java directory (the makefiles are
 pretty much hardcoded so they will require a few path adjustments) and
 then see if the java testclient can contact the c++ server.  There are a
 few things that might need configuring for this to happen if it doesn't
 'just work'.  Some info can be found on the
 http://crosswire.org/swordweb page.

 Let me know how it goes!  Thanks again!

 -Troy.




 Greg Hellings wrote:
  Troy,
 
  On Feb 2, 2008 5:41 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have struggled my way through compiling SWORDWeb binaries for Win32
  and should be releasing a precompiled package shortly.
 
  At BibleTech:2008 we had a request for a precompiled version for the
  Mac.  Is there anyone who has successfully compiled libsword for the Mac
  who is willing to try compiling the bindings/corba/orbitcpp/ folder?
 
 
  I'm willing to give this a run for its money (installing ORBit as I
  write this), but I have no experience with setting it up, etc.  I've
  never used ORBit other than to install it for packages which require
  it.  What minimal files would (probably) be necessary, and how do I
  test deployment, etc?
 
  --Greg
 
 
  This will probably require ORBit and orbitcpp installed first.  If you
  can produce a binary, it would be greatly appreciated.
 
  Thank you for considering.
 
  -Troy.
 
 
 
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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb / MacOSX

2008-02-04 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Greg,

Fink has orbit in as installable package if that is of any use.


Manfred



Am 04.02.2008 um 10:25 schrieb Greg Hellings:

 Troy,

 I've been working on this, but so far I am stuck with trying to
 compile the orbitcpp.  The latest version of it that I can locate is
 dated back on 2004 and the C++ part compiles fine, but then I keep
 getting errors about missing backend libraries for the idl-compiler.
 I could try to tackle the Java portion, if that would be sufficient,
 but I'd rather try to track down either an updated version of the
 orbitcpp or some sort of patch for Mac.

 Is the Java client/server portion sufficient, or does the C++ part
 need to be done as well?

 --Greg

 On Feb 2, 2008 6:02 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 Dear Greg,

 Thank you!  In the bindings/corba/orbitcpp directory the targets of  
 the
 makefile include a 'server' and 'testclient'.  If you can run the  
 server
 successfully, it should output an IOR:x string.  In another  
 window,
 if you run the testclient with this string as a parameter, it  
 should try
 to contact the server and make a few basic requests.  If this  
 succeeds,
 then we should be good to go.

 If all this succeeds and you get really ambitious, you could try to
 compile and run the bindings/corba/java directory (the makefiles are
 pretty much hardcoded so they will require a few path adjustments)  
 and
 then see if the java testclient can contact the c++ server.  There  
 are a
 few things that might need configuring for this to happen if it  
 doesn't
 'just work'.  Some info can be found on the
 http://crosswire.org/swordweb page.

 Let me know how it goes!  Thanks again!

-Troy.




 Greg Hellings wrote:
 Troy,

 On Feb 2, 2008 5:41 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:

 I have struggled my way through compiling SWORDWeb binaries for  
 Win32
 and should be releasing a precompiled package shortly.

 At BibleTech:2008 we had a request for a precompiled version for  
 the
 Mac.  Is there anyone who has successfully compiled libsword for  
 the Mac
 who is willing to try compiling the bindings/corba/orbitcpp/  
 folder?


 I'm willing to give this a run for its money (installing ORBit as I
 write this), but I have no experience with setting it up, etc.  I've
 never used ORBit other than to install it for packages which require
 it.  What minimal files would (probably) be necessary, and how do I
 test deployment, etc?

 --Greg


 This will probably require ORBit and orbitcpp installed first.   
 If you
 can produce a binary, it would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you for considering.

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb / MacOSX

2008-02-04 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Greg,

The ultimate goal is to get Java to talk to the C++ backend, so just the 
Java component alone is not useful.

Regarding the backend, did you supply an appropriate --prefix for MacOSX 
when configuring orbitcpp?  It should be relative to where ORBit was 
installed.  Have you done a 'make install' on orbitcpp?  What fails and 
where?  There is a --backenddir option available on the idl compiler, so 
maybe we can pass this if the paths aren't working well on the mac.

Hope this helps.

-Troy.




Greg Hellings wrote:
 Manfred,
 
 On Feb 4, 2008 4:37 AM, Manfred Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greg,

 Fink has orbit in as installable package if that is of any use.
 
 Yes, but it doesn't have orbitcpp installed, which the package also uses.
 
 --Greg
 

 Manfred



 Am 04.02.2008 um 10:25 schrieb Greg Hellings:


 Troy,

 I've been working on this, but so far I am stuck with trying to
 compile the orbitcpp.  The latest version of it that I can locate is
 dated back on 2004 and the C++ part compiles fine, but then I keep
 getting errors about missing backend libraries for the idl-compiler.
 I could try to tackle the Java portion, if that would be sufficient,
 but I'd rather try to track down either an updated version of the
 orbitcpp or some sort of patch for Mac.

 Is the Java client/server portion sufficient, or does the C++ part
 need to be done as well?

 --Greg

 On Feb 2, 2008 6:02 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Dear Greg,

 Thank you!  In the bindings/corba/orbitcpp directory the targets of
 the
 makefile include a 'server' and 'testclient'.  If you can run the
 server
 successfully, it should output an IOR:x string.  In another
 window,
 if you run the testclient with this string as a parameter, it
 should try
 to contact the server and make a few basic requests.  If this
 succeeds,
 then we should be good to go.

 If all this succeeds and you get really ambitious, you could try to
 compile and run the bindings/corba/java directory (the makefiles are
 pretty much hardcoded so they will require a few path adjustments)
 and
 then see if the java testclient can contact the c++ server.  There
 are a
 few things that might need configuring for this to happen if it
 doesn't
 'just work'.  Some info can be found on the
 http://crosswire.org/swordweb page.

 Let me know how it goes!  Thanks again!

-Troy.




 Greg Hellings wrote:
 Troy,

 On Feb 2, 2008 5:41 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I have struggled my way through compiling SWORDWeb binaries for
 Win32
 and should be releasing a precompiled package shortly.

 At BibleTech:2008 we had a request for a precompiled version for
 the
 Mac.  Is there anyone who has successfully compiled libsword for
 the Mac
 who is willing to try compiling the bindings/corba/orbitcpp/
 folder?

 I'm willing to give this a run for its money (installing ORBit as I
 write this), but I have no experience with setting it up, etc.  I've
 never used ORBit other than to install it for packages which require
 it.  What minimal files would (probably) be necessary, and how do I
 test deployment, etc?

 --Greg


 This will probably require ORBit and orbitcpp installed first.
 If you
 can produce a binary, it would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you for considering.

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb / MacOSX

2008-02-04 Thread Greg Hellings
Manfred,

On Feb 4, 2008 4:37 AM, Manfred Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greg,

 Fink has orbit in as installable package if that is of any use.

Yes, but it doesn't have orbitcpp installed, which the package also uses.

--Greg



 Manfred



 Am 04.02.2008 um 10:25 schrieb Greg Hellings:


  Troy,
 
  I've been working on this, but so far I am stuck with trying to
  compile the orbitcpp.  The latest version of it that I can locate is
  dated back on 2004 and the C++ part compiles fine, but then I keep
  getting errors about missing backend libraries for the idl-compiler.
  I could try to tackle the Java portion, if that would be sufficient,
  but I'd rather try to track down either an updated version of the
  orbitcpp or some sort of patch for Mac.
 
  Is the Java client/server portion sufficient, or does the C++ part
  need to be done as well?
 
  --Greg
 
  On Feb 2, 2008 6:02 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  Dear Greg,
 
  Thank you!  In the bindings/corba/orbitcpp directory the targets of
  the
  makefile include a 'server' and 'testclient'.  If you can run the
  server
  successfully, it should output an IOR:x string.  In another
  window,
  if you run the testclient with this string as a parameter, it
  should try
  to contact the server and make a few basic requests.  If this
  succeeds,
  then we should be good to go.
 
  If all this succeeds and you get really ambitious, you could try to
  compile and run the bindings/corba/java directory (the makefiles are
  pretty much hardcoded so they will require a few path adjustments)
  and
  then see if the java testclient can contact the c++ server.  There
  are a
  few things that might need configuring for this to happen if it
  doesn't
  'just work'.  Some info can be found on the
  http://crosswire.org/swordweb page.
 
  Let me know how it goes!  Thanks again!
 
 -Troy.
 
 
 
 
  Greg Hellings wrote:
  Troy,
 
  On Feb 2, 2008 5:41 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  I have struggled my way through compiling SWORDWeb binaries for
  Win32
  and should be releasing a precompiled package shortly.
 
  At BibleTech:2008 we had a request for a precompiled version for
  the
  Mac.  Is there anyone who has successfully compiled libsword for
  the Mac
  who is willing to try compiling the bindings/corba/orbitcpp/
  folder?
 
 
  I'm willing to give this a run for its money (installing ORBit as I
  write this), but I have no experience with setting it up, etc.  I've
  never used ORBit other than to install it for packages which require
  it.  What minimal files would (probably) be necessary, and how do I
  test deployment, etc?
 
  --Greg
 
 
  This will probably require ORBit and orbitcpp installed first.
  If you
  can produce a binary, it would be greatly appreciated.
 
  Thank you for considering.
 
 -Troy.
 
 
 
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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb / MacOSX

2008-02-04 Thread Greg Hellings
Troy,

On Feb 4, 2008 12:06 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greg,

 The ultimate goal is to get Java to talk to the C++ backend, so just the
 Java component alone is not useful.


I was afraid you might say that.

 Regarding the backend, did you supply an appropriate --prefix for MacOSX
 when configuring orbitcpp?  It should be relative to where ORBit was
 installed.  Have you done a 'make install' on orbitcpp?  What fails and
 where?  There is a --backenddir option available on the idl compiler, so
 maybe we can pass this if the paths aren't working well on the mac.

While executing the 'make' step for orbitcpp I get the following:
orbit-idl-2 -l c /sw/share/idl/orbit-2.0//CosNaming.idl
orbit-idl-2 2.14.7 compiling
  mode, hide preprocessor errors, passes: stubs skels common headers

Processing file /sw/share/idl/orbit-2.0//CosNaming.idl
orbit-idl-2 --backenddir=../../../orbitcpp/idl-compiler/.libs -l cpp
/sw/share/idl/orbit-2.0//CosNaming.idl
orbit-idl-2 2.14.7 compiling
  mode, hide preprocessor errors, passes: stubs skels common headers

Processing file /sw/share/idl/orbit-2.0//CosNaming.idl

** (orbit-idl-2:79844): WARNING **: idl-compiler backend not found.

** (orbit-idl-2:79844): WARNING **:
/sw/share/idl/orbit-2.0//CosNaming.idl compilation failed
make[4]: *** [CosNaming-cpp-common.cc] Error 1


As I said - I know nothing about idl/ORBit, and everything I've found
online seems to say exactly like you're saying - give it some sort of
--backenddir.  But I don't know what it wants in that backend
directory, and when I've tried to give it the directory for some of
the other IDL/ORBit libraries, I got the same result.  It behaves the
same when I try to compile the Corba bindings for Sword - it will
succeed on a few of the files, then eventually dump with the same
error message.

Has anyone seen an updated version of orbitcpp?  I'm trying to build
1.3.9, but that is, like I said, about 4 years old.

--Greg


 Hope this helps.

 -Troy.





 Greg Hellings wrote:
  Manfred,
 
  On Feb 4, 2008 4:37 AM, Manfred Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Greg,
 
  Fink has orbit in as installable package if that is of any use.
 
  Yes, but it doesn't have orbitcpp installed, which the package also uses.
 
  --Greg
 
 
  Manfred
 
 
 
  Am 04.02.2008 um 10:25 schrieb Greg Hellings:
 
 
  Troy,
 
  I've been working on this, but so far I am stuck with trying to
  compile the orbitcpp.  The latest version of it that I can locate is
  dated back on 2004 and the C++ part compiles fine, but then I keep
  getting errors about missing backend libraries for the idl-compiler.
  I could try to tackle the Java portion, if that would be sufficient,
  but I'd rather try to track down either an updated version of the
  orbitcpp or some sort of patch for Mac.
 
  Is the Java client/server portion sufficient, or does the C++ part
  need to be done as well?
 
  --Greg
 
  On Feb 2, 2008 6:02 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  Dear Greg,
 
  Thank you!  In the bindings/corba/orbitcpp directory the targets of
  the
  makefile include a 'server' and 'testclient'.  If you can run the
  server
  successfully, it should output an IOR:x string.  In another
  window,
  if you run the testclient with this string as a parameter, it
  should try
  to contact the server and make a few basic requests.  If this
  succeeds,
  then we should be good to go.
 
  If all this succeeds and you get really ambitious, you could try to
  compile and run the bindings/corba/java directory (the makefiles are
  pretty much hardcoded so they will require a few path adjustments)
  and
  then see if the java testclient can contact the c++ server.  There
  are a
  few things that might need configuring for this to happen if it
  doesn't
  'just work'.  Some info can be found on the
  http://crosswire.org/swordweb page.
 
  Let me know how it goes!  Thanks again!
 
 -Troy.
 
 
 
 
  Greg Hellings wrote:
  Troy,
 
  On Feb 2, 2008 5:41 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  I have struggled my way through compiling SWORDWeb binaries for
  Win32
  and should be releasing a precompiled package shortly.
 
  At BibleTech:2008 we had a request for a precompiled version for
  the
  Mac.  Is there anyone who has successfully compiled libsword for
  the Mac
  who is willing to try compiling the bindings/corba/orbitcpp/
  folder?
 
  I'm willing to give this a run for its money (installing ORBit as I
  write this), but I have no experience with setting it up, etc.  I've
  never used ORBit other than to install it for packages which require
  it.  What minimal files would (probably) be necessary, and how do I
  test deployment, etc?
 
  --Greg
 
 
  This will probably require ORBit and orbitcpp installed first.
  If you
  can produce a binary, it would be greatly appreciated.
 
  Thank you for considering.
 
 -Troy.
 
 
 
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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb / Win32

2008-02-03 Thread David Trotz

Troy,
Make that a +2 on WinXP! I got it up and running no problems. 
Instructions were very concise and clear.
That's pretty cool stuff you have there Troy! I had to double check the 
url to believe it was running locally.

--
David Trotz

Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Dear David,

Thanks for the feedback.  It's good to know it works on a box other than 
my development machine.  There is a readme at the root which says how to 
configure it to run at the location you installed it to.  It would be 
nice if everything was relative.  We could probably accomplish some of 
this by putting the orb in the tomcat/bin directory, but this just seems 
out of place.  I think the requirement to edit the 2 config files isn't 
too bad.  It let's people know they have options for configuration.


Glad you got it working.  Thanks again for taking the time to trying it 
out and report your findings!  Most appreciated.


So, we've got a +1 on WinXP.  Any feedback from other systems would be 
appreciated.



-Troy.



David Forslund wrote:
  
I downloaded and installed  it on my WinXP notebook.   The only issue I 
found was that it wanted to be installed
in the root of the drive I installed it in.   I fired up Tomcat provided 
with it and went to the swordweb page.  That
launched the orb server but only after I put the swordweb directory in 
the root of the file system.  It might be a little nicer if it could 
figure out the relative path instead of the absolute path.  I haven't 
had a chance to look at this in more detail to see where this is 
defined.  But most functions seem to work as expected.


Thanks!

Dave Forslund
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

I've completed a Win32 precompiled package of SWORDWeb and would love to 
have some people try it out before we make it known publicly.  There is 
a toplevel readme file with quick start information.


Thanks for any time you might give toward this.

-Troy.

http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/swordweb/win32/

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb / MacOSX

2008-02-02 Thread Greg Hellings
Troy,

On Feb 2, 2008 5:41 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have struggled my way through compiling SWORDWeb binaries for Win32
 and should be releasing a precompiled package shortly.

 At BibleTech:2008 we had a request for a precompiled version for the
 Mac.  Is there anyone who has successfully compiled libsword for the Mac
 who is willing to try compiling the bindings/corba/orbitcpp/ folder?

I'm willing to give this a run for its money (installing ORBit as I
write this), but I have no experience with setting it up, etc.  I've
never used ORBit other than to install it for packages which require
it.  What minimal files would (probably) be necessary, and how do I
test deployment, etc?

--Greg


 This will probably require ORBit and orbitcpp installed first.  If you
 can produce a binary, it would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you for considering.

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb / MacOSX

2008-02-02 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Dear Greg,

Thank you!  In the bindings/corba/orbitcpp directory the targets of the 
makefile include a 'server' and 'testclient'.  If you can run the server 
successfully, it should output an IOR:x string.  In another window, 
if you run the testclient with this string as a parameter, it should try 
to contact the server and make a few basic requests.  If this succeeds, 
then we should be good to go.

If all this succeeds and you get really ambitious, you could try to 
compile and run the bindings/corba/java directory (the makefiles are 
pretty much hardcoded so they will require a few path adjustments) and 
then see if the java testclient can contact the c++ server.  There are a 
few things that might need configuring for this to happen if it doesn't 
'just work'.  Some info can be found on the 
http://crosswire.org/swordweb page.

Let me know how it goes!  Thanks again!

-Troy.



Greg Hellings wrote:
 Troy,

 On Feb 2, 2008 5:41 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I have struggled my way through compiling SWORDWeb binaries for Win32
 and should be releasing a precompiled package shortly.

 At BibleTech:2008 we had a request for a precompiled version for the
 Mac.  Is there anyone who has successfully compiled libsword for the Mac
 who is willing to try compiling the bindings/corba/orbitcpp/ folder?
 

 I'm willing to give this a run for its money (installing ORBit as I
 write this), but I have no experience with setting it up, etc.  I've
 never used ORBit other than to install it for packages which require
 it.  What minimal files would (probably) be necessary, and how do I
 test deployment, etc?

 --Greg

   
 This will probably require ORBit and orbitcpp installed first.  If you
 can produce a binary, it would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you for considering.

 -Troy.



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[sword-devel] SWORDWeb / Win32

2008-02-02 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
I've completed a Win32 precompiled package of SWORDWeb and would love to 
have some people try it out before we make it known publicly.  There is 
a toplevel readme file with quick start information.

Thanks for any time you might give toward this.

-Troy.

http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/swordweb/win32/

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb / Win32

2008-02-02 Thread David Forslund
I downloaded and installed  it on my WinXP notebook.   The only issue I 
found was that it wanted to be installed
in the root of the drive I installed it in.   I fired up Tomcat provided 
with it and went to the swordweb page.  That
launched the orb server but only after I put the swordweb directory in 
the root of the file system.  It might be a little nicer if it could 
figure out the relative path instead of the absolute path.  I haven't 
had a chance to look at this in more detail to see where this is 
defined.  But most functions seem to work as expected.

Thanks!

Dave Forslund
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
 I've completed a Win32 precompiled package of SWORDWeb and would love to 
 have some people try it out before we make it known publicly.  There is 
 a toplevel readme file with quick start information.

 Thanks for any time you might give toward this.

 -Troy.

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb / Win32

2008-02-02 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Dear David,

Thanks for the feedback.  It's good to know it works on a box other than 
my development machine.  There is a readme at the root which says how to 
configure it to run at the location you installed it to.  It would be 
nice if everything was relative.  We could probably accomplish some of 
this by putting the orb in the tomcat/bin directory, but this just seems 
out of place.  I think the requirement to edit the 2 config files isn't 
too bad.  It let's people know they have options for configuration.

Glad you got it working.  Thanks again for taking the time to trying it 
out and report your findings!  Most appreciated.

So, we've got a +1 on WinXP.  Any feedback from other systems would be 
appreciated.


-Troy.



David Forslund wrote:
 I downloaded and installed  it on my WinXP notebook.   The only issue I 
 found was that it wanted to be installed
 in the root of the drive I installed it in.   I fired up Tomcat provided 
 with it and went to the swordweb page.  That
 launched the orb server but only after I put the swordweb directory in 
 the root of the file system.  It might be a little nicer if it could 
 figure out the relative path instead of the absolute path.  I haven't 
 had a chance to look at this in more detail to see where this is 
 defined.  But most functions seem to work as expected.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Dave Forslund
 Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
 I've completed a Win32 precompiled package of SWORDWeb and would love to 
 have some people try it out before we make it known publicly.  There is 
 a toplevel readme file with quick start information.

 Thanks for any time you might give toward this.

 -Troy.

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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb small updates

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield

On Tue, October 24, 2006 12:53 am, Ben Morgan wrote:
 Hi.

 If you point swordweb to Genesis 2:18, using the original KJV, there is
 something funny happening.
 In Genesis 2, at least 6 verses aren't there, and some of the ones which
 are
 there do not appear fully.
 Something like this appears to be happening in the NASB as well for
 Genesis

I'm seeing this, too.  Having to resort to paper for today.  :-(

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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb small updates

2006-10-25 Thread Bill Burton
Hello,

On 10/25/06, Gabriel M. Beddingfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, October 24, 2006 12:53 am, Ben Morgan wrote:
  Hi.
 
  If you point swordweb to Genesis 2:18, using the original KJV, there is
  something funny happening.
  In Genesis 2, at least 6 verses aren't there, and some of the ones which
  are
  there do not appear fully.
  Something like this appears to be happening in the NASB as well for
  Genesis

 I'm seeing this, too.  Having to resort to paper for today.  :-(

Me three.  KJV 2006 is okay though.

-Bill
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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb small updates

2006-10-25 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Hey guys.  Thanks for the report.  I believe I've fixed this problem.  
Please report if you still see trouble.

   -Troy.



Bill Burton wrote:
 Hello,

 On 10/25/06, Gabriel M. Beddingfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On Tue, October 24, 2006 12:53 am, Ben Morgan wrote:
 
 Hi.

 If you point swordweb to Genesis 2:18, using the original KJV, there is
 something funny happening.
 In Genesis 2, at least 6 verses aren't there, and some of the ones which
 are
 there do not appear fully.
 Something like this appears to be happening in the NASB as well for
 Genesis
   
 I'm seeing this, too.  Having to resort to paper for today.  :-(
 

 Me three.  KJV 2006 is okay though.

 -Bill
   


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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb small updates

2006-10-25 Thread Bill Burton
Hello Troy,

I checked Genesis 2 in the NASB and older KJV and they both appear fine here.

-Bill

On 10/25/06, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey guys.  Thanks for the report.  I believe I've fixed this problem.
 Please report if you still see trouble.

-Troy.



 Bill Burton wrote:
  Hello,
 
  On 10/25/06, Gabriel M. Beddingfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Tue, October 24, 2006 12:53 am, Ben Morgan wrote:
 
  Hi.
 
  If you point swordweb to Genesis 2:18, using the original KJV, there is
  something funny happening.
  In Genesis 2, at least 6 verses aren't there, and some of the ones which
  are
  there do not appear fully.
  Something like this appears to be happening in the NASB as well for
  Genesis
 
  I'm seeing this, too.  Having to resort to paper for today.  :-(
 
 
  Me three.  KJV 2006 is okay though.
 
  -Bill
 

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[sword-devel] swordweb small updates

2006-10-23 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
I've added to the beginning of the parallel study tab a couple useful 
presets for which I had previously kept bookmarks on my local browser.

http://crosswire.org/study/parallelstudy.jsp

I've also updated our live copy of swordweb to use the latest sword 
engine from svn, which fixes a minor problem in GBF modules which 
include strongs numbers and wish to have javascript output (like our 
swordweb application).  Now the LXX module supports word-clicks for 
definition lookups.


Hope this is useful.

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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb small updates

2006-10-23 Thread Ben Morgan
Hi.If you point swordweb to Genesis 2:18, using the original KJV, there is something funny happening.In Genesis 2, at least 6 verses aren't there, and some of the ones which are there do not appear fully.Something like this appears to be happening in the NASB as well for Genesis 2.
This appears to be a filter error, as with rtf encoding, it works, but with htmlhref, it doesn't work. It also seems to be a universal SWORD problem, not just SWORDweb.This is a big problem, as according to your FAQ ;)
Are verses missing?Yes, we took the verses we don't agree with out.
Of
course we're kidding. No, verses are not missing. However, some verses
appear as footnotes in certain translations, because they weren't
present in the earliest or most reliable manuscripts. To view these
verses, you need to view the entire chapter or any span of verses that
includes the verse directly preceding the apparent missing verse.
  
  God Bless, BenOn 10/24/06, Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've added to the beginning of the parallel study tab a couple usefulpresets for which I had previously kept bookmarks on my local browser.
http://crosswire.org/study/parallelstudy.jspI've also updated our live copy of swordweb to use the latest swordengine from svn, which fixes a minor problem in GBF modules which
include strongs numbers and wish to have _javascript_ output (like ourswordweb application).Now the LXX module supports word-clicks fordefinition lookups.Hope this is useful.-Troy.
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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb i18n

2006-06-09 Thread Yiguang Hu
Troy,
I updated my sword source from svn and rebuild the
orbitcpp failed with the following error, Any idea?
Thanks
Yiguang
swordorb-impl.cpp:

 sword::ListKey result;

if ((scope)  (strlen(scope))  0) {
lscope = parser.ParseVerseList(scope,
parser, true);
result = delegate-Search(istr, stype,
flags, lscope);
}
elseresult = delegate-Search(istr, stype,
flags);

SearchHitList *retVal = new SearchHitList;
int count = 0;
for (result = sword::TOP; !result.Error();
result++) count++;
retVal-length(count);
int i = 0;

// if we're sorted by score, let's re-sort by
verse, because Java can always re-sort by score
result = sword::TOP;
if ((count) 
(long)result.getElement()-userData)
result.sort(); //line 181


[EMAIL PROTECTED] orbitcpp]$ make
g++ `pkg-config --cflags sword` -g -O0 -I.
-I/usr/include/orbitcpp-2.0/
-I/usr/local/include/orbitcpp-2.0/ `orbit2-config
--cflags` -c swordorb-impl.cpp
swordorb-impl.cpp: In member function `virtual
swordorb::SearchHitList*
swordorb::SWModule_impl::search(const char*,
swordorb::SearchType, CORBA::Long, const char*)':
swordorb-impl.cpp:181: error: 'class sword::ListKey'
has no member named 'sort'
make: *** [swordorb-impl.o] Error 1



--- Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yiguang,
 
  I have a translation for the zh locale already and
  used at ccim.org. I'd like to put that into
 crosswire
  repository and others can used it and improve it,
 of
  course also makes it easier for me to manage it.
  I have attached that file here. Please feel free
 to
  post it or make it as the base for zh version
  translation site.
 
   I've added your contributed locale as the first
 official locale in SVN! 
   Thank you!  It can be seen from:
 
 http://crosswire.org/study?lang=zh_CN
 
 
  The bible install on ccim still has problem
 keeping up
  with the connection problem with corba. You
 mentioned
  a improvement on this problem before, Is this
 already
  done so I can update it or it is still been worked
 on.
 
   Yes, we've done some things.  We have 2 security
 limits which we have 
 added:
 
 1) a maximum number of sessions from a single IP
 addresss;
 2) a maximum number of hits per second from the same
 session.
 
   These will hopefully protect against webcrawlers
 opening thousands of 
 sessions, and also people attempting to scrape the
 data for an entire 
 Bibles from your site.  This will hopefully limit
 the number of 
 processes spawned by swordweb.  The root of the
 problem you are probably 
 running up against is that the user account running
 tomcat probably has 
 a security setting which places a quota on the
 maximum number of 
 processes it can run simultaneously.  Currently
 there is 1 orb spawned 
 as a process to handle each web session.
 
   The next step we should take is to close inactive
 orb servers after a 
 short timeout of inactivity-- like 10 seconds.  This
 will greatly limit 
 the number of processes running concurrently and
 should not noticeably 
 change the user experience.
 
   So, to sum up.  We've made 2 good improvements
 which you might benefit 
 from already.  I'll try to get to this last
 improvement sometime this week.
 
   There have been some fairly significant changes in
 SVN over the past 3 
 weeks, so you might need to upgrade things like
 clucene if you update 
 your site.
 
 
  If there is anything I can get involved please let
 me
  know. I really like to take advantage of the
 sword/web
  to serve our readers. I have forgot C/C++ almost
  completely, but my daily work is on java and live
 on
  it.
 
   Well, we have one pressing need on swordweb which
 you might be able to 
 help with.  It's listed on the new wiki at:
 
 http://crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/Current_events
 
   If you feel like helping out, we could definitely
 use it!
 
   Again, thanks for the i18n!  Very cool!
 
   -Troy.
 
 
 
   I also played Joe's DWR and developed couple of
  small monitor tools to simplify my work
  responsibility. Because of the connection problem,
 we
  have been keeping both our old CGI based search
 tool
  and swordweb running.
  
  The other thing I feel sorry is that my friend
 Diana
  who'd like to work on the flashcard seems not able
 to
  commit much on it since she had a baby to take
 care
  and also volunteer in a local community
 organization. 
  
  
  Yiguang
 
 


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[sword-devel] SWORDWeb i18n

2006-06-08 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Yiguang,

 I have a translation for the zh locale already and
 used at ccim.org. I'd like to put that into crosswire
 repository and others can used it and improve it, of
 course also makes it easier for me to manage it.
 I have attached that file here. Please feel free to
 post it or make it as the base for zh version
 translation site.

I've added your contributed locale as the first official locale in SVN! 
  Thank you!  It can be seen from:

http://crosswire.org/study?lang=zh_CN


 The bible install on ccim still has problem keeping up
 with the connection problem with corba. You mentioned
 a improvement on this problem before, Is this already
 done so I can update it or it is still been worked on.

Yes, we've done some things.  We have 2 security limits which we have 
added:

1) a maximum number of sessions from a single IP addresss;
2) a maximum number of hits per second from the same session.

These will hopefully protect against webcrawlers opening thousands of 
sessions, and also people attempting to scrape the data for an entire 
Bibles from your site.  This will hopefully limit the number of 
processes spawned by swordweb.  The root of the problem you are probably 
running up against is that the user account running tomcat probably has 
a security setting which places a quota on the maximum number of 
processes it can run simultaneously.  Currently there is 1 orb spawned 
as a process to handle each web session.

The next step we should take is to close inactive orb servers after a 
short timeout of inactivity-- like 10 seconds.  This will greatly limit 
the number of processes running concurrently and should not noticeably 
change the user experience.

So, to sum up.  We've made 2 good improvements which you might benefit 
from already.  I'll try to get to this last improvement sometime this week.

There have been some fairly significant changes in SVN over the past 3 
weeks, so you might need to upgrade things like clucene if you update 
your site.


 If there is anything I can get involved please let me
 know. I really like to take advantage of the sword/web
 to serve our readers. I have forgot C/C++ almost
 completely, but my daily work is on java and live on
 it.

Well, we have one pressing need on swordweb which you might be able to 
help with.  It's listed on the new wiki at:

http://crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/Current_events

If you feel like helping out, we could definitely use it!

Again, thanks for the i18n!  Very cool!

-Troy.



  I also played Joe's DWR and developed couple of
 small monitor tools to simplify my work
 responsibility. Because of the connection problem, we
 have been keeping both our old CGI based search tool
 and swordweb running.
 
 The other thing I feel sorry is that my friend Diana
 who'd like to work on the flashcard seems not able to
 commit much on it since she had a baby to take care
 and also volunteer in a local community organization. 
 
 
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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb i18n

2006-06-08 Thread Yiguang Hu
I will get our install updated when your other
improvement is in. I may be able take a look at 
SWORDWeb merge of passagestudy.jsp and
parallelstudy.jsp 
That may get me knowing the code better and get
involved.
Yiguang

--- Troy A. Griffitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yiguang,
 
  I have a translation for the zh locale already and
  used at ccim.org. I'd like to put that into
 crosswire
  repository and others can used it and improve it,
 of
  course also makes it easier for me to manage it.
  I have attached that file here. Please feel free
 to
  post it or make it as the base for zh version
  translation site.
 
   I've added your contributed locale as the first
 official locale in SVN! 
   Thank you!  It can be seen from:
 
 http://crosswire.org/study?lang=zh_CN
 
 
  The bible install on ccim still has problem
 keeping up
  with the connection problem with corba. You
 mentioned
  a improvement on this problem before, Is this
 already
  done so I can update it or it is still been worked
 on.
 
   Yes, we've done some things.  We have 2 security
 limits which we have 
 added:
 
 1) a maximum number of sessions from a single IP
 addresss;
 2) a maximum number of hits per second from the same
 session.
 
   These will hopefully protect against webcrawlers
 opening thousands of 
 sessions, and also people attempting to scrape the
 data for an entire 
 Bibles from your site.  This will hopefully limit
 the number of 
 processes spawned by swordweb.  The root of the
 problem you are probably 
 running up against is that the user account running
 tomcat probably has 
 a security setting which places a quota on the
 maximum number of 
 processes it can run simultaneously.  Currently
 there is 1 orb spawned 
 as a process to handle each web session.
 
   The next step we should take is to close inactive
 orb servers after a 
 short timeout of inactivity-- like 10 seconds.  This
 will greatly limit 
 the number of processes running concurrently and
 should not noticeably 
 change the user experience.
 
   So, to sum up.  We've made 2 good improvements
 which you might benefit 
 from already.  I'll try to get to this last
 improvement sometime this week.
 
   There have been some fairly significant changes in
 SVN over the past 3 
 weeks, so you might need to upgrade things like
 clucene if you update 
 your site.
 
 
  If there is anything I can get involved please let
 me
  know. I really like to take advantage of the
 sword/web
  to serve our readers. I have forgot C/C++ almost
  completely, but my daily work is on java and live
 on
  it.
 
   Well, we have one pressing need on swordweb which
 you might be able to 
 help with.  It's listed on the new wiki at:
 
 http://crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/Current_events
 
   If you feel like helping out, we could definitely
 use it!
 
   Again, thanks for the i18n!  Very cool!
 
   -Troy.
 
 
 
   I also played Joe's DWR and developed couple of
  small monitor tools to simplify my work
  responsibility. Because of the connection problem,
 we
  have been keeping both our old CGI based search
 tool
  and swordweb running.
  
  The other thing I feel sorry is that my friend
 Diana
  who'd like to work on the flashcard seems not able
 to
  commit much on it since she had a baby to take
 care
  and also volunteer in a local community
 organization. 
  
  
  Yiguang
 
 


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[sword-devel] swordweb

2006-04-27 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Does anyone have any objections to removing the Passage Study tab and 
renaming the Parallel tab to Passage Study?


We actually probably need to rethink much of how this user interface is 
laid out now that we're getting quite a bit of traffic and comments. 
Tyndale House is using us as their primary Bible link sight now.  Note 
the target of many of the Bible links at:


http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/Tyndale/links_Biblical.htm and
http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/Tyndale/BibleSoftware.htm

They are impressed with our 'web 2' functionality.  I think it's pretty 
cool too.  I've actually been using the site for quite a bit of my 
personal study.  I realize people have been opposed to forcing 
javascript on people to get functionality, but if we continue down this 
web 2 path it's going to be tedious to find ways to provide new features 
without javascript.  We're eventually going to have leave the 
non-javascript browsers behind.  Do people still feel strongly about 
this, or has time and ajax/web 2 momentum broken down the concerns a little?


Check this site out:

http://netvibes.com

Think of what we could do with their dockable panels for 
Bible/Commentary views! :)



-Troy.

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWEB Footnote / Cross-ref support

2006-01-30 Thread DM Smith

Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Hey guys,
Thank you for the feedback.  I will say once again for the 
newcomers, in case they haven't realized it yet: I am terrible at 
making things look pretty.  Anything that looks good on swordweb is 
due to other people writing nice CSS and HTML, etc.  If anyone has 
graphic design talent and would like to change some of the CSS styles 
to replace the X and N with nice neo-conservative abstract art icons 
we could show instead, I would love for people to use their gifts!


Concerning hitting the server.  DM, you made a comment about jumpy 
redraws?  Please be specific about when this happens.  It should do no 
such thing.  I'd like to fix whatever the problem is.
The following is fairly long as I took some time to reproduce the 
problem and am being very detailed so you can see what I saw.


For today's testing, I used Firefox 1.5, and I cleared the cache and 
cookies related to crosswire.org.
I then restarted the browser to start with a clean slate as far as 
session cookies go.


Today, I used Sloppy, a slow proxy, from http://www.dallaway.com/sloppy 
to simulate a 28.8 connection. (Your point about broadband is well 
taken. I stumbled across this program earlier last week.) The purpose 
was to slow things down enough to see the redraws. (I think that this 
program or something like it should be part of our toolkit.)


I then went to the page http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp and 
James 1 was displayed with James 1.19 highlighted. Once shown, I changed 
the size of the font, using Ctrl-scrollwheel, to show all the text, but 
not all the page.


I then clicked on Show Notes and the page drew one verse at a time 
until all verses were drawn. At the point when the last verse was drawn, 
I could see all the verses. Then the page scrolled to the bottom.


I guessed it was because it was trying to show the selected verse. So I 
selected verse 1 and it did not scroll to the bottom. Selecting a much 
later verse caused a scroll to the bottom.


I then scrolled to the top and removed the arguments from the address in 
the address bar and reloaded the page. The page redrew with the 
requested state. (I guess cookies are remembering my selections.) And 
the page did not scroll to the bottom. But if I were not at the top, it 
would place me at the top.


Anymore these days, I don't expect the page to scroll on me when I click 
on the page, especially something at the top of the page is clicked, I 
don't expect to be scrolled to the bottom.


These jumps were due to the page being requested again. And using GET 
and not POST. I think that using post may cause a faster redraw. To do 
this, create a form with hidden elements for all the fields that can be 
used for the request. For those that have a value, fill it in. For those 
that don't leave them blank. Then at a place which calls the page 
directly, replace it with an onclick to a function that will fill in the 
argument and then submit the form.


In the case of clicking on the number in front of a verse to select the 
verse, it appears unnecessary to go back out to the server at all times. 
Again, if the direct page request were replaced by an onclick call to a 
function, that function could evaluate the state of the page and 
determine whether the fetch was needed, as in the case of strongs being 
on, or not needed as in the case of notes. In the case where it is not 
needed, it could just change the value of the class attribute. This 
would eliminate a return to the server.


Basically, I am suggesting that all direct requests be changed to 
onclick calls to javascript. The javascript then decides whether to do a 
page fetch, to use AJAX or to do the work directly.



Thank you for the suggestion about preloading data.  Our first 
impl of these pages work this way.  We've changed to the current impl 
because not everyone has high speed access and some people pay by 
bandwidth usage.  Those pages have been way too hot, since adding word 
click strongs/morph lookups, to grab all the data in one hit to the 
server.
The suggestion I am making is not to grab everything in one hit. But 
some of it. I am suggesting that the notes and x-refs that show in the 
verses are gotten in advance. But the content referenced by them are 
gotten on demand. I'm assuming that you are using some variant of AJAX 
on the page. I think it could be more widely used.


If I time the refresh of the page with notes and x-refs on versus both 
off, while simulating a 28.8 modem, I don't see an appreciable change in 
load time.


Have you considered or are you using Apache's mod_gzip to deliver 
content? Modern browsers all have the capability to do uncompression on 
the fly.



Always open for patches and help with other items on the todo list:

http://crosswire.org/~scribe/todo/



Daniel Blake wrote:
FYI - I did the exact same thing.  Toggled the Footnotes on and 
immediately scrolled to the bottom of the page to see them.  

Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWEB Footnote / Cross-ref support

2006-01-30 Thread DM Smith

Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Hey guys,
Thank you for the feedback.  I will say once again for the 
newcomers, in case they haven't realized it yet: I am terrible at 
making things look pretty.  Anything that looks good on swordweb is 
due to other people writing nice CSS and HTML, etc.  If anyone has 
graphic design talent and would like to change some of the CSS styles 
to replace the X and N with nice neo-conservative abstract art icons 
we could show instead, I would love for people to use their gifts!


Concerning hitting the server.  DM, you made a comment about jumpy 
redraws?  Please be specific about when this happens.  It should do no 
such thing.  I'd like to fix whatever the problem is.
For today's testing, I used Firefox 1.5, and I cleared the cache and 
cookies related to crosswire.org.
I then restarted the browser to start with a clean slate as far as 
session cookies go.


Today, I used Sloppy, a slow proxy, from http://www.dallaway.com/sloppy 
to simulate a 28.8 connection. (Your point about broadband is well 
taken. I stumbled across this program earlier last week.) The purpose 
was to slow things down enough to see the redraws.


I then went to the page http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp and 
James 1 was displayed with James 1.19 highlighted. Once shown, I changed 
the size of the font, using Ctrl-scrollwheel, to show all the text, but 
not all the page.


I then clicked on Show Notes and the page drew one verse at a time 
until all verses were drawn. At the point when the last verse was drawn, 
I could see all the verses. Then the page scrolled to the bottom.


I guessed it was because it was trying to show the selected verse. So I 
selected verse 1 and it did not scroll to the bottom. Selecting a much 
later verse caused a scroll to the bottom.


Anymore these days, I don't expect the page to scroll on me when I click 
on the page.


These jumps were due to the page being requested again. And using GET 
and not POST. I think that using post may cause a faster redraw. To do 
this, create a form with hidden elements for all the fields that can be 
used for the request. For those that have a value, fill it in. For those 
that don't leave them blank. Then at a place which calls the page 
directly, replace it with an onclick to a function that will fill in the 
argument and then submit the form.


In the case of clicking on the number in front of a verse to select the 
verse, it appears unnecessary to go back out to the server at all times. 
Again, if the direct page request were replaced by an onclick call to a 
function, that function could evaluate the state of the page and 
determine whether the fetch was needed, as in the case of strongs being 
on, or not needed as in the case of notes. In the case where it is not 
needed, it could just change the value of the class attribute. This 
would eliminate a return to the server.


Basically, I am suggesting that all direct requests be changed to 
onclick calls to javascript. The javascript then decides whether to do a 
page fetch, to use AJAX or to do the work directly.



Thank you for the suggestion about preloading data.  Our first 
impl of these pages work this way.  We've changed to the current impl 
because not everyone has high speed access and some people pay by 
bandwidth usage.  Those pages have been way too hot, since adding word 
click strongs/morph lookups, to grab all the data in one hit to the 
server.
The suggestion I am making is not to grab everything in one hit. But 
some of it. I am suggesting that the notes and x-refs that show in the 
verses are gotten in advance. But the content referenced by them are 
gotten on demand. I'm assuming that you are using some variant of AJAX 
on the page. I think it could be more widely used.


If I time the refresh of the page with notes and x-refs on versus both 
off, while simulating a 28.8 modem, I don't see an appreciable change in 
load time.


Have you considered or are you using Apache's mod_gzip to deliver 
content? Modern browsers all have the capability to do uncompression on 
the fly.



Always open for patches and help with other items on the todo list:

http://crosswire.org/~scribe/todo/



Daniel Blake wrote:
FYI - I did the exact same thing.  Toggled the Footnotes on and 
immediately scrolled to the bottom of the page to see them.  It may 
not be right, but I think most of us have been trained to think and 
expect to find things that way.


Thanks for the work.  It looks good.

Daniel Blake

DM Smith wrote:


Looks good. Some thoughts.

In the NASB module each of the notes and cross references has an n 
attribute which can be used for a marker. I don't know if the sword 
api exposes them. If it does, you might want to use it.


In the It's just my preference category, I think that since you 
are not listing the notes at the foot of the page, they are not foot 
notes. The first thing that I did after clicking on Show footnotes 
was to scroll to the 

Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWEB Footnote / Cross-ref support

2006-01-29 Thread Scott Thomas

Troy,

I took a brief look at a passage I've been studying, and it looks very 
nice. I really like the footnotes, especially.


Scott

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A first attempt at footnote / crossref support is available for testing at:

http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp

Notice 2 new tools on the right: Show [Footnotes | Cross-references]

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWEB Footnote / Cross-ref support

2006-01-29 Thread DM Smith

Looks good. Some thoughts.

In the NASB module each of the notes and cross references has an n 
attribute which can be used for a marker. I don't know if the sword api 
exposes them. If it does, you might want to use it.


In the It's just my preference category, I think that since you are 
not listing the notes at the foot of the page, they are not foot notes. 
The first thing that I did after clicking on Show footnotes was to 
scroll to the foot of the page to see the notes. Perhaps just call them 
Notes.


In the KJV, notes often have references. How would that be handled?

If the reference is to something on the same page, should it do 
something different?


I run my monitor at a high resolution and it is hard for me to click on 
the little 'n's or 'x's. I noticed in the html that the spacing is 
outside the span. Perhaps putting it into the span would help. I think 
that using different marks might also help, such as dagger;. You might 
not need to superscript it or make it smaller.


It appears that the showing or hiding of footnotes or cross references 
goes back out to the server. It is pretty fast but it causes a redraw 
and a jumping around of the page. I don't know what is done during that 
refresh, but I think that the page could be gotten with all the notes 
and references and the page built with them, but making them visible 
based on the state of the settings.


To do this, the Study Tools options would need to change to call 
javascript to toggle the setting and then invoke the appropriate 
behavior. The spacing around spans would need to be moved inside.


The appropriate behaviour may be to call passageStudy.jsp as it does now 
or to change the display state of the span with something like the 
following pseudo code:


/*
* Set the display state of sought tags.
* @param root the element whose descendants are examined
* @param tagname  the tag of the elements being sought
* @param classvalue   the class of elements being sought
* An empty classvalue means that all elements match.
* @param displayState none to hide, inline or block to show
*/
function setState(root, tagName, classValue, displayState)
{
 // Get all the descendants of root having the desired tagName
 var elements = root.getElementsByTagName(tagName);
 for (var i=0; i  elements.length; i++)
 {
   var item = elements[i];
   // for those elements that match on classValue
   if (!classValue || item.className == classValue)
   {
 // set the state as desired.
 item.style.display = displayState;
   }
 }
}

I have used something like this to manage a tree made from a nested 
list. If you find this interesting and want more details please ask.


In His Service,
   DM

Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
A first attempt at footnote / crossref support is available for 
testing at:


http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp

Notice 2 new tools on the right: Show [Footnotes | Cross-references]

Your feedback is appreciated.


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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWEB Footnote / Cross-ref support

2006-01-29 Thread Daniel Blake
FYI - I did the exact same thing.  Toggled the Footnotes on and 
immediately scrolled to the bottom of the page to see them.  It may not 
be right, but I think most of us have been trained to think and expect 
to find things that way.


Thanks for the work.  It looks good.

Daniel Blake

DM Smith wrote:


Looks good. Some thoughts.

In the NASB module each of the notes and cross references has an n 
attribute which can be used for a marker. I don't know if the sword 
api exposes them. If it does, you might want to use it.


In the It's just my preference category, I think that since you are 
not listing the notes at the foot of the page, they are not foot 
notes. The first thing that I did after clicking on Show footnotes 
was to scroll to the foot of the page to see the notes. Perhaps just 
call them Notes.


In the KJV, notes often have references. How would that be handled?

If the reference is to something on the same page, should it do 
something different?


I run my monitor at a high resolution and it is hard for me to click 
on the little 'n's or 'x's. I noticed in the html that the spacing is 
outside the span. Perhaps putting it into the span would help. I think 
that using different marks might also help, such as dagger;. You 
might not need to superscript it or make it smaller.


It appears that the showing or hiding of footnotes or cross references 
goes back out to the server. It is pretty fast but it causes a redraw 
and a jumping around of the page. I don't know what is done during 
that refresh, but I think that the page could be gotten with all the 
notes and references and the page built with them, but making them 
visible based on the state of the settings.


To do this, the Study Tools options would need to change to call 
javascript to toggle the setting and then invoke the appropriate 
behavior. The spacing around spans would need to be moved inside.


The appropriate behaviour may be to call passageStudy.jsp as it does 
now or to change the display state of the span with something like the 
following pseudo code:


/*
* Set the display state of sought tags.
* @param root the element whose descendants are examined
* @param tagname  the tag of the elements being sought
* @param classvalue   the class of elements being sought
* An empty classvalue means that all elements match.
* @param displayState none to hide, inline or block to show
*/
function setState(root, tagName, classValue, displayState)
{
 // Get all the descendants of root having the desired tagName
 var elements = root.getElementsByTagName(tagName);
 for (var i=0; i  elements.length; i++)
 {
   var item = elements[i];
   // for those elements that match on classValue
   if (!classValue || item.className == classValue)
   {
 // set the state as desired.
 item.style.display = displayState;
   }
 }
}

I have used something like this to manage a tree made from a nested 
list. If you find this interesting and want more details please ask.


In His Service,
   DM

Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

A first attempt at footnote / crossref support is available for 
testing at:


http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp

Notice 2 new tools on the right: Show [Footnotes | Cross-references]

Your feedback is appreciated.


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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWEB Footnote / Cross-ref support

2006-01-29 Thread Troy A. Griffitts

Hey guys,
	Thank you for the feedback.  I will say once again for the newcomers, 
in case they haven't realized it yet: I am terrible at making things 
look pretty.  Anything that looks good on swordweb is due to other 
people writing nice CSS and HTML, etc.  If anyone has graphic design 
talent and would like to change some of the CSS styles to replace the X 
and N with nice neo-conservative abstract art icons we could show 
instead, I would love for people to use their gifts!


	Concerning hitting the server.  DM, you made a comment about jumpy 
redraws?  Please be specific about when this happens.  It should do no 
such thing.  I'd like to fix whatever the problem is.


	Thank you for the suggestion about preloading data.  Our first impl of 
these pages work this way.  We've changed to the current impl because 
not everyone has high speed access and some people pay by bandwidth 
usage.  Those pages have been way too hot, since adding word click 
strongs/morph lookups, to grab all the data in one hit to the server.


Always open for patches and help with other items on the todo list:

http://crosswire.org/~scribe/todo/



Daniel Blake wrote:
FYI - I did the exact same thing.  Toggled the Footnotes on and 
immediately scrolled to the bottom of the page to see them.  It may not 
be right, but I think most of us have been trained to think and expect 
to find things that way.


Thanks for the work.  It looks good.

Daniel Blake

DM Smith wrote:


Looks good. Some thoughts.

In the NASB module each of the notes and cross references has an n 
attribute which can be used for a marker. I don't know if the sword 
api exposes them. If it does, you might want to use it.


In the It's just my preference category, I think that since you are 
not listing the notes at the foot of the page, they are not foot 
notes. The first thing that I did after clicking on Show footnotes 
was to scroll to the foot of the page to see the notes. Perhaps just 
call them Notes.


In the KJV, notes often have references. How would that be handled?

If the reference is to something on the same page, should it do 
something different?


I run my monitor at a high resolution and it is hard for me to click 
on the little 'n's or 'x's. I noticed in the html that the spacing is 
outside the span. Perhaps putting it into the span would help. I think 
that using different marks might also help, such as dagger;. You 
might not need to superscript it or make it smaller.


It appears that the showing or hiding of footnotes or cross references 
goes back out to the server. It is pretty fast but it causes a redraw 
and a jumping around of the page. I don't know what is done during 
that refresh, but I think that the page could be gotten with all the 
notes and references and the page built with them, but making them 
visible based on the state of the settings.


To do this, the Study Tools options would need to change to call 
javascript to toggle the setting and then invoke the appropriate 
behavior. The spacing around spans would need to be moved inside.


The appropriate behaviour may be to call passageStudy.jsp as it does 
now or to change the display state of the span with something like the 
following pseudo code:


/*
* Set the display state of sought tags.
* @param root the element whose descendants are examined
* @param tagname  the tag of the elements being sought
* @param classvalue   the class of elements being sought
* An empty classvalue means that all elements match.
* @param displayState none to hide, inline or block to show
*/
function setState(root, tagName, classValue, displayState)
{
 // Get all the descendants of root having the desired tagName
 var elements = root.getElementsByTagName(tagName);
 for (var i=0; i  elements.length; i++)
 {
   var item = elements[i];
   // for those elements that match on classValue
   if (!classValue || item.className == classValue)
   {
 // set the state as desired.
 item.style.display = displayState;
   }
 }
}

I have used something like this to manage a tree made from a nested 
list. If you find this interesting and want more details please ask.


In His Service,
   DM

Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

A first attempt at footnote / crossref support is available for 
testing at:


http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp

Notice 2 new tools on the right: Show [Footnotes | Cross-references]

Your feedback is appreciated.


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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWEB Footnote / Cross-ref support

2006-01-29 Thread John.Caro.std

Hi
I really like the direction you are going with crosslinking different 
resources. It didn't seem to work in the versions besides ASB.  Also I 
didn't see any morphologiical references, but frankly I didn't know what I 
was looking for.


I am also wondering if there is a prettier way to format the document or 
perform the notification. You seem to get pretty good performance.


I am new to this list, but I have been listening in for awhile. I am still 
trying to make sense of all the Sword API jargon and bible software 
concepts. So I am just bubbling over with questions.


1. Is there a glossary of terms?
2. Are the words cross referenced is it only with the asb version?
3. Is the crosslinking native to the API, the bible document or something 
you came up with?

4. Is there a Use Case Document connected with Crosswire or Sword?
5. Is all the functionality in the Sword API?
6. Can this be done in ASP.net as well?
7. Wouldn't this list would be more productive in a forum environment?

Thank you

John Caro
15047 Silver Leaf Ct.
Montclair, Va 22025
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Subject: [sword-devel] SWORDWEB Footnote / Cross-ref support



A first attempt at footnote / crossref support is available for testing at:

http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp

Notice 2 new tools on the right: Show [Footnotes | Cross-references]

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[sword-devel] SWORDWEB Footnote / Cross-ref support

2006-01-28 Thread Troy A. Griffitts

A first attempt at footnote / crossref support is available for testing at:

http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp

Notice 2 new tools on the right: Show [Footnotes | Cross-references]

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb on Windows

2006-01-08 Thread Troy A. Griffitts

I'm interested in the SWORDWeb running on Windows


Basically, just getting sword compiled and running on Windows, including 
the CORBA bindings for both ORBit C++ and Java.  Then trying it out.


The same components it takes to get it running on Linux, but their 
Windows counterparts.


The install instructions for Linux are at:

http://crosswire.org/swordweb/


A note of caution: I believe Daniel Glassey is currently moving my hack 
of a bindings/corba/*/Makefile into auto-tools, so current SVN might 
require slightly different steps when you get to the corba bindings 
section.  If you move forward with this task, and you get this far and 
have trouble, Daniel is the one to contact.


Thank you for considering!

-Troy.





 and SWORDWeb footnotes

support. Also interested in the ESV footnotes support.

Can you provide more info on what the requirements are?

Thanks,

Scott

Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Just wanted to publish my living scratch-pad to-do list, while our 
Wiki is down.  We could really really really use some help on these 
items.


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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb Footnotes / ESV Footnotes

2006-01-08 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Current SVN of sword has support to show a clickable span where each 
footnote appears in the text.  It calls a javascript function which 
isn't written yet, and it looks horrible because there is no CSS for the 
span class.


If you install swordweb from SVN and view a module with footnotes, you 
should see this.


-Troy.



Scott Thomas wrote:

Troy,

I may have some time to help with a couple of items.

I'm interested in the SWORDWeb running on Windows and SWORDWeb footnotes 
support. Also interested in the ESV footnotes support.


Can you provide more info on what the requirements are?

Thanks,

Scott

Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Just wanted to publish my living scratch-pad to-do list, while our 
Wiki is down.  We could really really really use some help on these 
items.


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[sword-devel] SWORDWeb for Windows

2005-12-13 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
If anyone is available and willing, we have a request to verify SWORDWeb 
does, indeed, run on a Windows box.


The instructions for install are available at:

http://crosswire.org/swordweb/


Post a note if you are willing to give it a shot.

-Troy.

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Re: [sword-devel] SWORDWeb for Windows

2005-12-13 Thread David Forslund

I tried building it under cygwin  and get the following errors:


C:\projects\swordsh autogen.sh
*** Sword build system generation
*** Recreating libtool
libtoolize
autogen.sh: line 8: libtoolize: command not found
*** Recreating aclocal.m4
aclocal
m4/cppunit.m4:4: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_CPPUNIT
 run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
 or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal
/usr/share/aclocal/gtk-2.0.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_GTK_2_0

*** Recreating configure
configure.ac:26: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_LIBTOOL_WIN32_DLL
 If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
 See the Autoconf documentation.
configure.ac:27: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL
*** Recreating the Makefile.in files
configure.ac: installing `./install-sh'
configure.ac: installing `./missing'
examples/cmdline/Makefile.am: installing `./depcomp'
lib/Makefile.am:16: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
lib/Makefile.am:16:
lib/Makefile.am:16: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add 
`AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
lib/Makefile.am:16: to `configure.ac' and run `aclocal' and `autoconf' 
again.

configure.ac:13: installing `./config.guess'
configure.ac:13: installing `./config.sub'

C:\projects\swordsh usrinst.sh
checking build system type... i686-pc-cygwin
checking host system type... i686-pc-cygwin
checking target system type... i686-pc-cygwin
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.exe
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables... .exe
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking for g++... g++
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes
checking dependency style of g++... gcc3
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
./configure: line 3491: AC_LIBTOOL_WIN32_DLL: command not found
./configure: line 3492: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL: command not found
checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for compress in -lz... yes
checking for cppunit-config... no
checking for Cppunit - version = 1.8.0... checking for pkg-config... no
configure: WARNING: *** pkg-config not found. See 
http://www.freedesktop.org/software/pkgconfig/

configure: WARNING: not using pkg-config
./configure: line 4129: no: command not found
configure: WARNING: *** pkg-config too old; version 0.14 or better required.
configure: WARNING: not using pkg-config
checking for pkgdata... /usr/sbin/pkgdata
checking for genccode... /usr/sbin/genccode
checking for gencmn... /usr/sbin/gencmn
checking for genrb... /usr/sbin/genrb
checking for icu-config... no
*** The icu-config script installed by icu could not be found
*** continuing anyway and assuming 2.1 or earlier
checking for curl-config... no
*** The curl-config script installed by curl could not be found
*** compiling without libcurl support
lucene found - lucene searching options available
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: error: cannot find input file: Makefile.in



Configured to NOT write a global /etc/sword.conf on 'make install'.
If this is the first time you've installed sword, be sure to run
'make install_config' if you would like a basic configuration installed

Next you might try something like:

make
su
make install
(and optionally)
make install_config
make register




C:\projects\swordmake
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.

C:\projects\swordls
AUTHORS   README.svn  config.status  install-sh  src
CODINGSTYLE   aclocal.m4  config.sub lib stamp-h.in
COPYING   arminst.sh  configure  locales.d   sword.bmp
ChangeLog autogen.sh  configure.ac   m4  sword.kdevprj
INSTALL   autom4te.cache  depcompmissing sword.pc.in
LICENSE   bindingsdistignore obj sword.spec.in
Makefile.am   buildtest.cpp   docolb tests
Makefile.cvs  config.guessexamples   pix usrinst.sh
NEWS  config.h.in icusamples utilities
READMEconfig.log  includescripts

C:\projects\sword\cygwin\bin\make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.

C:\projects\swordmake install_config
make: *** No rule to make target `install_config'.  Stop.

C:\projects\sword

Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

[sword-devel] SWORDWeb Footnotes / ESV

2005-11-25 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
The ESV contracts have been signed and an initial cut of the ESV module 
is available for web use only at:


http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?mod=ESV#cv

Before we can release the module for download, Crossway will need to ok 
the quality of the module.  The last remaining item we'd like to enable 
are the footnotes in the module.  I believe they are encoded correctly, 
but for us to show them off, we need to extend SWORDWeb to publish a 
footnote mechanism.


I'd like to have hover over footnote markers in the text, and also 
possibly a list of the footnotes at the bottom of the page, written out.


If anyone has experience working on SWORDWeb (or would like to first get 
up to speed with the current webapp) and would like to add these 
features, we'd love to have you help!


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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb javascript

2005-03-11 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Daniel and I have been hacking around and we now have an attempt at 
on-demand javascript word definition loading implemented.  Please have a 
look and let us know what you think/how it works for you.

A special thanks to Joachim, Bryan, and Nic for the info regarding 
XMLHTTPRequest.  The pages are now a much more manageable size and makes 
this feature about ready for public consumption.  Please keep your 
feedback and advice coming.  And IE user, let us know if we've improved 
things for your browser deficit ;)

-Troy.

Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
Hey guys.  We've added a new feature to SWORDWeb.  It allows javascript 
popups of word definitions when viewing a text which supports such (like 
KJV, WHNU, NASB, etc.)  It should work in parallel windows too.

There is a new option on the preferences page to turn javascript 
features on and off.

Here are some problems with which we could use your help:
It takes much longer to load a page with this data on now, because we 
prefetch all the lexicon info for the page.  It would be nice to delay 
these lookups until needed, if anyone knows how.

Joachim pointed out that google seems to do this at:
http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1hl=en
Also,
Safari looks good
Firefox looks good
IE sucks
Any ideas why IE doesn't display the text correctly and other browsers 
do? (not just because it sucks)

Thanks for your feedback and help.  We hope to take SWORDWeb to the next 
level!

-Troy.

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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb javascript

2005-03-10 Thread Bryan L.Fordham
On Mar 10, 2005, at 6:24 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Joachim pointed out that google seems to do this at:
http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1hl=en
Google uses something call XmlHttpRequest.  You can find a simple demo 
at http://jibbering.com/2002/4/httprequest.html

This is a very simple and powerful technique. I just implemented some 
things using this at my day job, and it's pretty easy to make this 
useful.

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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb javascript

2005-03-10 Thread Bryan L. Fordham
On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 06:29:25AM -0700, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
 Hey DM,
   We have a doctype element in our page.  I just changed it to use 
   what w3c.org uses and it hasn't fixed our problem.

Don't have time now, either, but IE usually requires you to make threats
before it will cooperate.

--B
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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb javascript

2005-03-10 Thread Lynn Allan
Am I doing something wrong?  ...
http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?key=john+3%3A16

I tried looking at several pages with IE 6, but nothing shows up. I
turned on javascript, shut down IE 6 and looked at the View Source.
I'm not finding any definitions but a lot of empty a href=/a
where definitions would seem to be. Is this just to have
placeholders? Or a problem with IE6? Am I looking in the wrong
place?

Something that might apply ... years ago, I did some experimental
pages for the Evangelism Explosion organization using on hover calls
for a Question/Answer format. I don't know if that approach might
reduce the large footprint problem that definitions cause. I seem to
remember that deferred loading of scripts is possible, but I never got
that experienced with javascript, so that is speculation on my part.

At that time, I had a 56kbps modem that only got about the equivalent
of 36kbps effective bandwidth. I think bloated pages are a big
problem with many websites whose developers have broadband and don't
experience how long it takes the pretty pages to show up for real
end-users  especially outside of the USA and western Europe.


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Re: [sword-devel] swordweb javascript

2005-03-10 Thread Nic Carter
Yere, take a look at XmlHttpRequest.  I've also been playing around
with this at my day job, and I've been using it with JSP  Java -- a
great project to take a look at is JSON-RPC-Java
(http://oss.metaparadigm.com/jsonrpc/) which basically is a Javascript
to Java RPC thing.  Very funky, and probably something along the lines
of what you want (unless you want to implement it all yourself!)... :)


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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 04:24:05 -0700, Troy A. Griffitts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It takes much longer to load a page with this data on now, because we
 prefetch all the lexicon info for the page.  It would be nice to delay
 these lookups until needed, if anyone knows how.
 

 Any ideas why IE doesn't display the text correctly and other browsers
 do? (not just because it sucks)
 
 Thanks for your feedback and help.  We hope to take SWORDWeb to the next
 level!
 
 -Troy.
 
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