Re: [systemd-devel] GithHub / private repos

2019-01-30 Thread Alex Dzyoba
If we're actually discussing private repos for reporting security issues then
Github product is not helpful. It seems that most of the projects use private
mailing lists for that. For example, Linux kernel has secur...@kernel.org and
another one for coordination with distributions - more details here
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.18/admin-guide/security-bugs.html

So I think something like systemd-secur...@lists.freedesktop.org is
the way to go.

Alex

On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 3:42 PM Lennart Poettering
 wrote:
>
> On Di, 15.01.19 21:21, Alex Dzyoba (a...@dzyoba.com) wrote:
>
> > When you create a new organization you can choose "Team For Open
> > Source" plan. Here is the link
> > https://github.com/account/organizations/new
> >
> > Though, I don't know if it's possible to upgrade the existing systemd
> > organization, sorry. Maybe it's possible to contact github support to
> > ask for this.
>
> So I had a closer look at this, and found this:
>
> https://help.github.com/articles/github-s-products/
>
> IIUC "GitHub Team for Open Source" doesn't actually add anything we
> need. Because what we need would actually be the ability for arbitrary
> people (i.e. not people who necessarily are members of our systemd
> team on github) to send us private PRs and issues in order to handle
> security issues.
>
> It appears to me that plan does not provide the core need we have:
> allow those random folks from the Internet to report security issues
> in privacy to us... Or what am I missing?
>
> Lennart
>
> --
> Lennart Poettering, Red Hat
___
systemd-devel mailing list
systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel


Re: [systemd-devel] Fail to load network modules properly

2019-01-30 Thread Łukasz Słaboń
Well after analysing dmesg I see that only difference between successful
and failed boot is the time when ext4 main partition is mounted for the
second time. In failed boot it is mounted between cfg80211 module and wl
module. Detailed dmesg listing is in my first message.
That is why I asked is there any possibility to force loading cfg80211
module only after main partition is mounted for the second time. I assume
that is should be done somehow by systemd. But I'm not experienced enough
to solve this by myself.

Łukasz Słaboń


On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 4:50 PM Colin Guthrie  wrote:

> Łukasz Słaboń wrote on 28/01/2019 19:23:
> > Yes, as far as I know it should load firmware. Is there a possibility to
> > force loading wl driver and module only after partition is mounted? I
> > assume that something systemd scripts needs to be changed to force
> > different boot sequence.
>
> Firmware is usually stored in the /usr tree. systemd typically requires
> that /usr is available from early boot (i.e. before modules are
> initialised).
>
> If /usr is a separate partition, it is the job of the initrd to ensure
> /usr is mounted prior to pivoting into systemd on the filesystem.
>
> If the module is compiled into the kernel or included in the initrd,
> then the firmware file would also typically have to be included in the
> initrd too.
>
> dracut takes care of all this for you, not sure about other initrd
> generators.
>
> Col
>
> --
>
> Colin Guthrie
> gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie
> http://colin.guthr.ie/
>
> Day Job:
>   Tribalogic Limited http://www.tribalogic.net/
> Open Source:
>   Mageia Contributor http://www.mageia.org/
>   PulseAudio Hacker http://www.pulseaudio.org/
>   Trac Hacker http://trac.edgewall.org/
>
___
systemd-devel mailing list
systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel


Re: [systemd-devel] Bugfix release(s)

2019-01-30 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
Unfortunately, it likely was. I updated the webhook to also log when a tag
is ignored for the future and also changed it to use the rc tag.

--
Ryan (ライアン)
Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else
https://refi64.com/

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019, 12:34 PM Lennart Poettering 
wrote:

> On Di, 29.01.19 23:31, Ryan Gonzalez (rym...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > It's donotreply-systemd-...@refi64.com though I had already subscribed
> it
> > to the mailing list with a temporary route to my own email and then
> turned
> > off receiving messages, ... I'm guessing the whitelist would be better
> > though?
>
> Hmm. So I added this to the whitelist. And I just tagged v241-rc2, but
> no email appears to have been generated. Did you see the Github hook
> on your server? Or is this just some "pre" vs. "rc" artifact?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lennart
>
> --
> Lennart Poettering, Red Hat
>
___
systemd-devel mailing list
systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel


[systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] v241-rc2 tagged

2019-01-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
Quick heads-up!

I just tagged -rc2 of v241. Please test and report back. The next tag
is most likely going to be the final v241, hence last chance to find
bugs that need to be fixed pre-release.

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/releases/tag/v241-rc2

Thanks,

Lennart

--
Lennart Poettering, Red Hat
___
systemd-devel mailing list
systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel


Re: [systemd-devel] Bugfix release(s)

2019-01-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 29.01.19 23:31, Ryan Gonzalez (rym...@gmail.com) wrote:

> It's donotreply-systemd-...@refi64.com though I had already subscribed it
> to the mailing list with a temporary route to my own email and then turned
> off receiving messages, ... I'm guessing the whitelist would be better
> though?

Hmm. So I added this to the whitelist. And I just tagged v241-rc2, but
no email appears to have been generated. Did you see the Github hook
on your server? Or is this just some "pre" vs. "rc" artifact?

Thanks,

Lennart

--
Lennart Poettering, Red Hat
___
systemd-devel mailing list
systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel


Re: [systemd-devel] systemctl condreload - Is it a thing?

2019-01-30 Thread Ian Pilcher

On 1/30/19 10:19 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:

The official name for "condreload" is "try-reload-or-restart". The
"condreload" name is supported still to make things easier for compat
cases, but I'd recommend not using it anymore. It's unlikely to go
away anytime soon though.


Makes sense.  (I suspected that might be the case, but I was thrown off
by the "or-restart" part.)


Generally, in systemd when we want to de-emphasize something redundant
or deprecated stuff we stop documenting it while still supporting it,
so that people stop using it slowly.


Well, that's one way to increase mailing list traffic.  ;-)

Thanks!

--

Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com
 "I grew up before Mark Zuckerberg invented friendship" 

___
systemd-devel mailing list
systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel


Re: [systemd-devel] systemctl condreload - Is it a thing?

2019-01-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 30.01.19 10:07, Ian Pilcher (arequip...@gmail.com) wrote:

> $SUBJECT pretty much says it all.  It seems to work, but I can't find
> any mention of it in the documentation or with my Google searches.
>
> Is it deprecated and going away?

The official name for "condreload" is "try-reload-or-restart". The
"condreload" name is supported still to make things easier for compat
cases, but I'd recommend not using it anymore. It's unlikely to go
away anytime soon though.

Generally, in systemd when we want to de-emphasize something redundant
or deprecated stuff we stop documenting it while still supporting it,
so that people stop using it slowly.

Lennart

--
Lennart Poettering, Red Hat
___
systemd-devel mailing list
systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel


Re: [systemd-devel] systemctl condreload - Is it a thing?

2019-01-30 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:07 PM Ian Pilcher  wrote:

> $SUBJECT pretty much says it all.  It seems to work, but I can't find
> any mention of it in the documentation or with my Google searches.
>
> Is it deprecated and going away?
>

It's an old "compatibility alias" added in ~v20. (Apparently, ALT Linux
wanted to just do a straightforward "service O V" → "systemctl V O"
substitution or something like that.)

I don't know if it'll be removed or not, but as is the general rule with
everything not in official documentation, I would say _don't rely_ on its
existence (unless it was specifically added for your use case).

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/64e5f1b721d76948e2987f65841dc087f684e1de

http://git.altlinux.org/people/piastry/packages/?p=service.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba51a53881638ff0d93172ae3778329b2d5b316e

-- 
Mantas Mikulėnas
___
systemd-devel mailing list
systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel


Re: [systemd-devel] systemctl condreload - Is it a thing?

2019-01-30 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 30.01.19 um 17:07 schrieb Ian Pilcher:
> $SUBJECT pretty much says it all.  It seems to work, but I can't find
> any mention of it in the documentation or with my Google searches.
> 
> Is it deprecated and going away?

"condrestart" and "condreload" are working just fine and aliases for
"try-reload" and "try-restart" as with the olld service-command while if
find "try" a dumb wording to be honest given that it's executed based on
the condition "is that service running" and not "tried"
___
systemd-devel mailing list
systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel


[systemd-devel] systemctl condreload - Is it a thing?

2019-01-30 Thread Ian Pilcher

$SUBJECT pretty much says it all.  It seems to work, but I can't find
any mention of it in the documentation or with my Google searches.

Is it deprecated and going away?

Thanks!

--

Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com
 "I grew up before Mark Zuckerberg invented friendship" 


___
systemd-devel mailing list
systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel