Re: [systemd-devel] The meaning of CanMultiSession=no on non-seat0

[nerdopolis]

On Friday, April 3, 2020 3:28:52 AM EDT Pekka Paalanen wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Apr 2020 22:59:25 -0400
> nerdopolis  wrote:
> 
> > On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 8:59:30 AM EDT Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > On Di, 28.01.20 22:48, nerdopolis (bluescreen_aven...@verizon.net) wrote:
> > >   
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Sorry if this is the wrong place for this. I can't seem to find a 
> > > > system-user
> > > > mailing list for this purpose on freedesktop.
> > > >
> > > > So I am curious about what CanMultiSession=no means, as I am able to 
> > > > start a
> > > > Weston session on a secondary seat (eg seat1 if I set up the hardware 
> > > > with udev
> > > > or seat-pci-pci-_xx_xx_x if I use pci-bridge-seat devices on QEMU.
> > > >
> > > > These seats, since they don't have TTYs I guess say CanMultiSession=no 
> > > > which is
> > > > my understanding, however, I can start a second instance of Weston, and 
> > > > switch
> > > > in between them fine, and Weston seems to respond to the sessions 
> > > > switching, so
> > > > I am not quite sure what is missing? Is it something else related to 
> > > > security?
> > > > Or the kernel?
> > > >
> > > > Because as far as I can tell, I can start multiple sessions on these 
> > > > seats.  
> > > 
> > > Hmm, so it currently just lets you know if the seat has VTs (which
> > > only seat0 has effectively, if the VT subsys is enabled in the
> > > kernel).
> > > 
> > > In the old days we only supported session switching on seat0, since it
> > > was based exclusively on VTs. Later on David Hermann added support for
> > > session switching without VTs, at which point the boolean was wired to
> > > mean "has VTs". Maybe that was a mistake, dunno, and it should just
> > > have returned true for all seats at that point...
> > > 
> > > Lennart
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Lennart Poettering, Berlin
> > >   
> > Thanks. I was wondering if there was some security thing that depended on 
> > TTYs
> > for the two Display Servers running on the same seat to truly be secure or 
> > not.
> > (like reading /dev/input/* )
> > 
> > If you don't need TTYs to prevent the non-seat0 session from reading input 
> > from
> > the other non-seat0 session, the same as on seat0, then yeah, as I've been 
> > able
> > to run and switch between two sessions on non-seat0 since I first tried it 
> > in 
> > 2017...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > One thing I did notice though is that (as far as leaking input)
> > 
> > - if run Display Servers on the secondary seat (one, or more than one)
> > - On seat0, I chvt to a text-mode TTY
> > - Continuing to use the secondary seat, all keyboard and mouse (gpm) input
> >   gets sent to the TTY (and the actual display server)
> > - Switching back to a TTY with a display server, and the seats behave 
> > separate
> >   again
> > 
> > 
> > My (maybe bad) guess is that it would need to be addressed in the kernel 
> > though
> > And the CanMultiSession attribute on non-seat0 doesn't matter when the 
> > problem 
> > is all input from all devices gets sent to seat0 when seat0 is in a text 
> > mode
> > TTY
> > 
> > ..and even if you have some kmscon like thing installed, there could still 
> > be 
> > text mode TTYs
> 
> Hi,
> 
> that is both an excellent and horrifying observation. And it makes
> perfect sense to me why that happens, just like you think: seat
> assignments happen in userspace as udev properties. Someone would have
> to explicitly tell the kernel about it too to fix this, e.g. remove
> non-seat0 devices from the VT machinery.
> 
> I wonder if such kernel interface even exists?
> 
> The reason why display servers do not cross their input streams like
> that is that display servers do not use the VT for input. But VT gets
> its input assigned directly inside the kernel.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> pq
Hi

I'm not sure, but I am not an expert there. haha. However, I am just 
remembering as far as gpm goes,that one runs in userspace, as root so it's 
also not obeying seats, but THAT part is not the fault of the kernel. 

Maybe a utility could be made like gpm that grabs the keyboard input, but only
forwards the keys to the TTY, if the device is in seat0. But like, I am
guessing here, and I guess it would be a possibility for the hypothetical
utility to crash, and then all input would get sent to the TTY anyway.


So I'm not sure, also should we change the name of the thread since I think my
original question is answered now?


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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Michał Zegan]

W dniu 08.04.2020 o 00:44, juice pisze:
> Dorian ROSSE kirjoitti 2020-04-08 01:37:
>> Sorry I was say an error
>>
>>  I can't start them they happen crash
>>
> 
> Normally the getty@ttyX.services are off and are automatically started
> when you start a session on a VT.
tty1 is usually explicitly enabled, but othervise true.
> 
> Do you get anything relevant on journal?
> 
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Michał Zegan]

W dniu 08.04.2020 o 00:03, Dorian ROSSE pisze:
> I explain again the problem juice
> 
> I can't use my monitor foe edit script
> 
> Because console-getty et getty@tty1 service are disabled, 
> 
> I can start but I want both service become static, 
> 
> How to become both service as static ? 
Oh, I probably get it now.
console-getty is for getty at /dev/console and I believe you should not
do this...
You can type systemctl enable getty@tty1.service if for some reason it
is disabled. It is not intended to be static.
> 
> Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile 
> 
> *From:* Dorian ROSSE
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 7, 2020 7:47:53 PM
> *To:* systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> 
> *Subject:* your are happier but without become static some service I
> can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services
>  
> Hello,
> 
> 
> your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin
> by console-getty et getty@tty1 services on my monitor...
> 
> I have tried too ssh access but ssh mailing list has never answer my
> e-mail...
> 
> thank you in advance to help me become static some services,
> 
> Regards.
> 
> 
> Dorian ROSSE.
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[juice]

Dorian ROSSE kirjoitti 2020-04-08 01:37:

Sorry I was say an error

 I can't start them they happen crash



Normally the getty@ttyX.services are off and are automatically started 
when you start a session on a VT.


Do you get anything relevant on journal?

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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Andy Pieters]

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 23:37, Dorian ROSSE  wrote:
>
> Sorry I was say an error
>
> I can't start them they happen crash

Try getting help here Dorian https://forums.fedora-fr.org/
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Dorian ROSSE]

Sorry I was say an error

I can't start them they happen crash

Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile

From: systemd-devel  on behalf of 
Andy Pieters 
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:32:33 AM
Cc: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org 
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some 
service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

> On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 23:24, Dorian ROSSE  wrote:
> > Because console-getty and getty@tty1 service are disabled,
> >
> > I can start but I want the both service become static,
>
Why not just enable them?

systemctl enable console-getty.service getty@tty1.service

 ?
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Andy Pieters]

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 23:35, Dorian ROSSE  wrote:
>
> I can't enable them
>
Why? What happens when you try?
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Dorian ROSSE]

I can't enable them

Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile

From: Andy Pieters 
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:31:53 AM
To: Dorian ROSSE 
Cc: Kevin P. Fleming ; systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org 

Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some 
service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 23:24, Dorian ROSSE  wrote:
> Because console-getty and getty@tty1 service are disabled,
>
> I can start but I want the both service become static,

Why not just enable them?

systemctl enable console-getty.service getty@tty1.service

?
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Andy Pieters]

> On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 23:24, Dorian ROSSE  wrote:
> > Because console-getty and getty@tty1 service are disabled,
> >
> > I can start but I want the both service become static,
>
Why not just enable them?

systemctl enable console-getty.service getty@tty1.service

 ?
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Dorian ROSSE]

Sorry I speak to much fast

I explain again the problem juice

I can't use my monitor for edit script

Because console-getty and getty@tty1 service are disabled,

I can start but I want the both service become static,

How to become both service as static ?


Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile

From: Dorian ROSSE 
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:23:23 AM
To: Kevin P. Fleming ; systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org 

Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some 
service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

Sorry I speak to much fast

I explain again the problem juice

I can't use my monitor for edit script

Because console-getty et getty@tty1 service are disabled,

I can start but I want the both service become static,

How to become both service as static ?



Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile

From: systemd-devel  on behalf of 
Kevin P. Fleming 
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:14:35 AM
Cc: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org 
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some 
service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

Dorian: Please find a French-language support forum or mailing list
for Fedora Linux. They'll be glad to help you, and will be able to
address your questions in the Fedora system.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 6:08 PM Dave Howorth  wrote:
>
> I'm not sure why Lennart hasn't stepped in to moderate yet, but this
> discussion is going in my bit bucket.
>
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 22:03:25 +
> Dorian ROSSE  wrote:
> > I explain again the problem juice
> >
> > I can't use my monitor foe edit script
> >
> > Because console-getty et getty@tty1 service are disabled,
> >
> > I can start but I want both service become static,
> >
> > How to become both service as static ?
> >
> > Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile
> > 
> > From: Dorian ROSSE
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 7:47:53 PM
> > To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> >  Subject: your are happier but
> > without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et
> > getty@tty1 services
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > your are happier but without become static some service I can't
> > loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services on my monitor...
> >
> > I have tried too ssh access but ssh mailing list has never answer my
> > e-mail...
> >
> > thank you in advance to help me become static some services,
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> > Dorian ROSSE.
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Dorian ROSSE]

Sorry I speak to much fast

I explain again the problem juice

I can't use my monitor for edit script

Because console-getty et getty@tty1 service are disabled,

I can start but I want the both service become static,

How to become both service as static ?



Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile

From: systemd-devel  on behalf of 
Kevin P. Fleming 
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:14:35 AM
Cc: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org 
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some 
service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

Dorian: Please find a French-language support forum or mailing list
for Fedora Linux. They'll be glad to help you, and will be able to
address your questions in the Fedora system.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 6:08 PM Dave Howorth  wrote:
>
> I'm not sure why Lennart hasn't stepped in to moderate yet, but this
> discussion is going in my bit bucket.
>
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 22:03:25 +
> Dorian ROSSE  wrote:
> > I explain again the problem juice
> >
> > I can't use my monitor foe edit script
> >
> > Because console-getty et getty@tty1 service are disabled,
> >
> > I can start but I want both service become static,
> >
> > How to become both service as static ?
> >
> > Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile
> > 
> > From: Dorian ROSSE
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 7:47:53 PM
> > To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> >  Subject: your are happier but
> > without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et
> > getty@tty1 services
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > your are happier but without become static some service I can't
> > loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services on my monitor...
> >
> > I have tried too ssh access but ssh mailing list has never answer my
> > e-mail...
> >
> > thank you in advance to help me become static some services,
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> > Dorian ROSSE.
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[systemd-devel] sd_bus_add_match callback

[David J]

Question regarding sd_bus_add_match (sd-bus.c):



Is it acceptable (or recommended) to use the same callback for multiple signal 
match and then using the userdata parameter to distinguish among the different 
signals? See the sample code below for a reference of what I am trying to do.



/*Beginning=*/
int callback(sd_bus_message *message, void *userdata, sd_bus_error *error) {
  //there should be a lock applied here?
  if(get_signal_id(userdata) == 1) {
    //do something
  }
}

int main(...) {
  r = sd_bus_add_match(bus, , "type='signal'", test_callback, userdata);
  int r;
  sd_bus *bus = NULL;
  sd_event *event = NULL;
  sd_bus_slot *slot = NULL;

  r = sd_bus_default_system();
  assert(r >= 0);

  r = sd_event_default();
  assert(r >= 0);

  void *userdata1 = set_signal_id(1);
  r = sd_bus_add_match(bus, , "type='signal',interface='org.interface2'", 
callback, userdata1);

  void *userdata2 = set_signal_id(2);
  r = sd_bus_add_match(bus, , "type='signal',interface='org.interface1'", 
callback, userdata2);

  r = sd_event_loop(event);
  assert(r >= 0);
 
  bus = sd_bus_flush_close_unref(bus);
  slot = sd_bus_slot_unref(slot);
  event = sd_event_unref(event);
}


/*End =*/


I appreciate your help and your time.



Thank you,

David J (ema...@icloud.com)


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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Kevin P. Fleming]

Dorian: Please find a French-language support forum or mailing list
for Fedora Linux. They'll be glad to help you, and will be able to
address your questions in the Fedora system.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 6:08 PM Dave Howorth  wrote:
>
> I'm not sure why Lennart hasn't stepped in to moderate yet, but this
> discussion is going in my bit bucket.
>
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 22:03:25 +
> Dorian ROSSE  wrote:
> > I explain again the problem juice
> >
> > I can't use my monitor foe edit script
> >
> > Because console-getty et getty@tty1 service are disabled,
> >
> > I can start but I want both service become static,
> >
> > How to become both service as static ?
> >
> > Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile
> > 
> > From: Dorian ROSSE
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 7:47:53 PM
> > To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> >  Subject: your are happier but
> > without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et
> > getty@tty1 services
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > your are happier but without become static some service I can't
> > loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services on my monitor...
> >
> > I have tried too ssh access but ssh mailing list has never answer my
> > e-mail...
> >
> > thank you in advance to help me become static some services,
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> > Dorian ROSSE.
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Dave Howorth]

I'm not sure why Lennart hasn't stepped in to moderate yet, but this
discussion is going in my bit bucket.

On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 22:03:25 +
Dorian ROSSE  wrote:
> I explain again the problem juice
> 
> I can't use my monitor foe edit script
> 
> Because console-getty et getty@tty1 service are disabled,
> 
> I can start but I want both service become static,
> 
> How to become both service as static ?
> 
> Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile
> 
> From: Dorian ROSSE
> Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 7:47:53 PM
> To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
>  Subject: your are happier but
> without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et
> getty@tty1 services
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> your are happier but without become static some service I can't
> loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services on my monitor...
> 
> I have tried too ssh access but ssh mailing list has never answer my
> e-mail...
> 
> thank you in advance to help me become static some services,
> 
> Regards.
> 
> 
> Dorian ROSSE.
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[juice]

Hi Dorian;

I think the main problem is that you use google translate to try to 
express your problems. The translations do not come out as expected, but 
rather broken.


The best thing would be if there was someone native french speaker who 
would be able to help you, then the ideas would not be garbled on 
translation.


  - juice -


Dorian ROSSE kirjoitti 2020-04-07 23:35:

As I was say I am not a systemd worker

 Sorry if you are here just for discuss,

 But please stop to talk to myself for nothing,

 Regards.

 Dorian Rosse.

 Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile [1]
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Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 10:32:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become
static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1
services

Am 07.04.20 um 22:21 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:

I know there is a coredump mailing list


nothing like a "coredump mailing list" exists
period

you even seem not to know what a coredump ist but crying for it
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Links:
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Dorian ROSSE]

I explain again the problem juice

I can't use my monitor foe edit script

Because console-getty et getty@tty1 service are disabled,

I can start but I want both service become static,

How to become both service as static ?

Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile

From: Dorian ROSSE
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 7:47:53 PM
To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org 
Subject: your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin 
by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

Hello,


your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by 
console-getty et getty@tty1 services on my monitor...

I have tried too ssh access but ssh mailing list has never answer my e-mail...

thank you in advance to help me become static some services,

Regards.


Dorian ROSSE.
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Michał Zegan]

1. I am probably not a right person to say this, but please calm down,
because that way of discussing does not make sense.
2. The problem is that we literally do not understand what you are
saying. You ask for help about problems but at least I cannot (not at
all) decipher what is the question.

W dniu 07.04.2020 o 22:21, Dorian ROSSE pisze:
> As I was say stop to talk with me
> 
> I am not on systemd mailing list for hear you
> 
> I am on for discuss between linux happier dev worker
> 
> You spend time for talk 
> 
> But I want hear a worker, 
> 
> I know there is a coredump mailing list but when I was publish there is
> some year I have never receive any answer
> 
> Systemd need take back the coredump dev 
> 
> I feel like this you talk for nothing... 
> 
> Lol
> 
> Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile 
> 
> *From:* Reindl Harald 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 7, 2020 10:10:57 PM
> *To:* Dorian ROSSE 
> *Subject:* Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become
> static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services
>  
> 
> 
> Am 07.04.20 um 22:08 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
>> I am not a systemd worker
>> 
>> I am more a snort worker
> 
> you are an idiot provebale by read you shit opver 3 years, not more and
> not less, creep away
> 
>> Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile 
>> 
>> *From:* systemd-devel  on
>> behalf of Reindl Harald 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 7, 2020 9:56:06 PM
>> *To:* systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become
>> static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Am 07.04.20 um 21:53 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
>>> I am don't know why I keep talk to you, 
>>> 
>>> You aren't stop to speak, 
>>> 
>>> But when I need help you are are lazy person on the list
>> 
>> to get help you need to distinct between a problem and your imagination
>> and learn to express your imaginary problems in a way that another human
>> can understand what you are talking about, unless now any of your posts
>> is just noise for years
>> 
>> if you want coredumps seek for a broken application
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Reindl Harald]

Am 07.04.20 um 22:35 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> As I was say I am not a systemd worker

don't matter

> Sorry if you are here just for discuss, 

th epoint is hat i am here for *technical issues* and not damaged brains

> But please stop to talk to myself for nothing, 

well, just shutup as long as you are not able to express the simplest
technical issue, even god don#t know what you want to hear as response
of 99.999% perecnt of yiour random words throwing into a mail lcient

> Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile 
> 
> *From:* systemd-devel  on
> behalf of Reindl Harald 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 7, 2020 10:32:37 PM
> *To:* systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become
> static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services
>  
> 
> 
> Am 07.04.20 um 22:21 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
>> I know there is a coredump mailing list 
> 
> nothing like a "coredump mailing list" exists
> period
> 
> you even seem not to know what a coredump ist but crying for it
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Dorian ROSSE]

As I was say I am not a systemd worker

Sorry if you are here just for discuss,

But please stop to talk to myself for nothing,

Regards.


Dorian Rosse.

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Am 07.04.20 um 22:21 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> I know there is a coredump mailing list

nothing like a "coredump mailing list" exists
period

you even seem not to know what a coredump ist but crying for it
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Reindl Harald]

Am 07.04.20 um 22:21 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> I know there is a coredump mailing list 

nothing like a "coredump mailing list" exists
period

you even seem not to know what a coredump ist but crying for it
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Dorian ROSSE]

As I was say stop to talk with me

I am not on systemd mailing list for hear you

I am on for discuss between linux happier dev worker

You spend time for talk

But I want hear a worker,

I know there is a coredump mailing list but when I was publish there is some 
year I have never receive any answer

Systemd need take back the coredump dev

I feel like this you talk for nothing...

Lol

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From: Reindl Harald 
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 10:10:57 PM
To: Dorian ROSSE 
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some 
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Am 07.04.20 um 22:08 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> I am not a systemd worker
>
> I am more a snort worker

you are an idiot provebale by read you shit opver 3 years, not more and
not less, creep away

> Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile 
> 
> *From:* systemd-devel  on
> behalf of Reindl Harald 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 7, 2020 9:56:06 PM
> *To:* systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become
> static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services
>
>
>
> Am 07.04.20 um 21:53 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
>> I am don't know why I keep talk to you,
>>
>> You aren't stop to speak,
>>
>> But when I need help you are are lazy person on the list
>
> to get help you need to distinct between a problem and your imagination
> and learn to express your imaginary problems in a way that another human
> can understand what you are talking about, unless now any of your posts
> is just noise for years
>
> if you want coredumps seek for a broken application
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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Dorian ROSSE]

I am not a systemd worker

I am more a snort worker

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Am 07.04.20 um 21:53 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> I am don't know why I keep talk to you,
>
> You aren't stop to speak,
>
> But when I need help you are are lazy person on the list

to get help you need to distinct between a problem and your imagination
and learn to express your imaginary problems in a way that another human
can understand what you are talking about, unless now any of your posts
is just noise for years

if you want coredumps seek for a broken application


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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Reindl Harald]

Am 07.04.20 um 21:53 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> I am don't know why I keep talk to you, 
> 
> You aren't stop to speak, 
> 
> But when I need help you are are lazy person on the list

to get help you need to distinct between a problem and your imagination
and learn to express your imaginary problems in a way that another human
can understand what you are talking about, unless now any of your posts
is just noise for years

if you want coredumps seek for a broken application


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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Dorian ROSSE]

I am don't know why I keep talk to you,

You aren't stop to speak,

But when I need help you are are lazy person on the list,

An advice stop to talk to me,

You are boring and a cowar just,

Stop to talk to me OK?

I haven't discuss to the list for hear your injuries...

Envoyé d’Outlook Mobile

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Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 9:45:41 PM
To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org 
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some 
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Am 07.04.20 um 21:42 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> I am not a bot but when people unbring help it can be a bot yes

which help?
you are helpless and that's for sure

> I have more publish for nothing at systemd mailing list because your
> range of work in systemd is very short,

only god knows what that means

> And systemd version isn't often update,

whine at your distribution

> I want just use my monitor for set up script

again: only god knows what that means

take your meds guy!

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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Reindl Harald]

Am 07.04.20 um 21:42 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> I am not a bot but when people unbring help it can be a bot yes

which help?
you are helpless and that's for sure

> I have more publish for nothing at systemd mailing list because your
> range of work in systemd is very short, 

only god knows what that means

> And systemd version isn't often update, 

whine at your distribution

> I want just use my monitor for set up script

again: only god knows what that means

take your meds guy!

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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Dorian ROSSE]

I am not a bot but when people unbring help it can be a bot yes

I have more publish for nothing at systemd mailing list because your range of 
work in systemd is very short,

And systemd version isn't often update,

I want just use my monitor for set up script,

Regards.


Dorian Rosse.

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From: systemd-devel  on behalf of 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 7:56:55 PM
To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org 
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some 
service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services



Am 07.04.20 um 19:47 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin
> by console-getty et getty@tty1 services on my monitor...
>
> I have tried too ssh access but ssh mailing list has never answer my
> e-mail...
>
> thank you in advance to help me become static some services

i get the feeling you are a bad implementation of a bot after look at
all of your posts in the past years
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Re: [systemd-devel] how to check if coredump running now ?

[Dorian ROSSE]

I am happy to know coredump run in background

My fedora system install often kernel core rpm file

And by locate command line I have seen coredump in the kernel files :)

I don't translate your e-mail but that I have known,

Have a nice night from France,

It will be 22 hours,

Regards.


Dorian Rosse.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 9:32:03 PM
To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org 
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] how to check if coredump running now ?



Am 07.04.20 um 21:23 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> Coredump is a program it should run

coredump is something triggered when something crashed and controlled by
"kernel.core_pattern = |/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-coredump %P %u %g %s %t
%c %h %e" and there is no fucking reason that it runs all the time

you are seeking solutions for problems which don't exist for years now

> I feel like this

replace your feeling with technical knowledge at a basic level


> *From:* systemd-devel  on
> behalf of Reindl Harald 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 7, 2020 7:54:58 PM
> *To:* systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [systemd-devel] how to check if coredump running now ?
>
>
>
> Am 07.04.20 um 19:05 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
>> coredump should be available
>
> it is
>
>>> I have launch 'dnf install coredump' without sucess,
>>>
>>> I have launch 'locate coredump' finaly coredump is in the system too in 
>>> kernel !
>>>
>>> but when I launch 'systemctl status coredump' It can't be displayed
>>>
>>> what is the systemd command line for check if coredump running ?
>
> what do you expect "running"?
>
> hell until nothing crashes there is nothign runnign and why do you think
> it should?
>
> what in the world is the problem you try to solve and why do you think
> something needs to run?

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Re: [systemd-devel] how to check if coredump running now ?

[Reindl Harald]

Am 07.04.20 um 21:23 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> Coredump is a program it should run 

coredump is something triggered when something crashed and controlled by
"kernel.core_pattern = |/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-coredump %P %u %g %s %t
%c %h %e" and there is no fucking reason that it runs all the time

you are seeking solutions for problems which don't exist for years now

> I feel like this

replace your feeling with technical knowledge at a basic level


> *From:* systemd-devel  on
> behalf of Reindl Harald 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 7, 2020 7:54:58 PM
> *To:* systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [systemd-devel] how to check if coredump running now ?
>  
> 
> 
> Am 07.04.20 um 19:05 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
>> coredump should be available 
> 
> it is
> 
>>> I have launch 'dnf install coredump' without sucess,
>>>
>>> I have launch 'locate coredump' finaly coredump is in the system too in 
>>> kernel !
>>>
>>> but when I launch 'systemctl status coredump' It can't be displayed
>>>
>>> what is the systemd command line for check if coredump running ?
> 
> what do you expect "running"?
> 
> hell until nothing crashes there is nothign runnign and why do you think
> it should?
> 
> what in the world is the problem you try to solve and why do you think
> something needs to run?

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Re: [systemd-devel] how to check if coredump running now ?

[Dorian ROSSE]

Coredump is a program it should run

I feel like this

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Am 07.04.20 um 19:05 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> coredump should be available

it is

>> I have launch 'dnf install coredump' without sucess,
>>
>> I have launch 'locate coredump' finaly coredump is in the system too in 
>> kernel !
>>
>> but when I launch 'systemctl status coredump' It can't be displayed
>>
>> what is the systemd command line for check if coredump running ?

what do you expect "running"?

hell until nothing crashes there is nothign runnign and why do you think
it should?

what in the world is the problem you try to solve and why do you think
something needs to run?

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Re: [systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Reindl Harald]

Am 07.04.20 um 19:47 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin
> by console-getty et getty@tty1 services on my monitor...
> 
> I have tried too ssh access but ssh mailing list has never answer my
> e-mail...
> 
> thank you in advance to help me become static some services

i get the feeling you are a bad implementation of a bot after look at
all of your posts in the past years
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Re: [systemd-devel] how to check if coredump running now ?

[Reindl Harald]

Am 07.04.20 um 19:05 schrieb Dorian ROSSE:
> coredump should be available 

it is

>> I have launch 'dnf install coredump' without sucess,
>>
>> I have launch 'locate coredump' finaly coredump is in the system too in 
>> kernel !
>>
>> but when I launch 'systemctl status coredump' It can't be displayed
>>
>> what is the systemd command line for check if coredump running ?

what do you expect "running"?

hell until nothing crashes there is nothign runnign and why do you think
it should?

what in the world is the problem you try to solve and why do you think
something needs to run?

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[systemd-devel] your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by console-getty et getty@tty1 services

[Dorian ROSSE]

Hello,


your are happier but without become static some service I can't loggin by 
console-getty et getty@tty1 services on my monitor...

I have tried too ssh access but ssh mailing list has never answer my e-mail...

thank you in advance to help me become static some services,

Regards.


Dorian ROSSE.
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Re: [systemd-devel] how to check if coredump running now ?

[Dorian ROSSE]

coredump should be available

dns is used for update or install in fedora

With the locate command line I am able to see all foldar or file with my 
coredump search by locate coredump command line

Can you help me know why coredump seem uninstall?

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Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 6:51:46 PM
To: Dorian ROSSE 
Cc: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org 
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] how to check if coredump running now ?

On Di, 07.04.20 15:36, Dorian ROSSE (dorianbr...@hotmail.fr) wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
> I have launch 'dnf install coredump' without sucess,
>
> I have launch 'locate coredump' finaly coredump is in the system too in 
> kernel !
>
> but when I launch 'systemctl status coredump' It can't be displayed,
>
> what is the systemd command line for check if coredump running ?
>
> when I chuss in program run window from my fedora web page I can't see any 
> coredump running 
>
> thank you in advance to help me install again coredump,

I don't undestand what you are trying to do. What is "coredump"
supposed to be in your case?

Please consider inquiring your downstream distribution for help first,
possibly in a french language forum of your distribution first. They
are probably better to help you, as locate/dnf and such things are not
systemd concepts.

Lennart

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Re: [systemd-devel] how to check if coredump running now ?

[Lennart Poettering]

On Di, 07.04.20 15:36, Dorian ROSSE (dorianbr...@hotmail.fr) wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
> I have launch 'dnf install coredump' without sucess,
>
> I have launch 'locate coredump' finaly coredump is in the system too in 
> kernel !
>
> but when I launch 'systemctl status coredump' It can't be displayed,
>
> what is the systemd command line for check if coredump running ?
>
> when I chuss in program run window from my fedora web page I can't see any 
> coredump running 
>
> thank you in advance to help me install again coredump,

I don't undestand what you are trying to do. What is "coredump"
supposed to be in your case?

Please consider inquiring your downstream distribution for help first,
possibly in a french language forum of your distribution first. They
are probably better to help you, as locate/dnf and such things are not
systemd concepts.

Lennart

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[systemd-devel] how to check if coredump running now ?

[Dorian ROSSE]

Hello,


I have launch 'dnf install coredump' without sucess,

I have launch 'locate coredump' finaly coredump is in the system too in kernel !

but when I launch 'systemctl status coredump' It can't be displayed,

what is the systemd command line for check if coredump running ?

when I chuss in program run window from my fedora web page I can't see any 
coredump running 

thank you in advance to help me install again coredump,

Regards.


Dorian ROSSE.
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Re: [systemd-devel] [Suspected Spam] Link groups in systemd-networkd

[Susant Sahani]

Please see  https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/15355

Susant
From: systemd-devel 
Date: Saturday, 4 April 2020 at 6:41 PM
To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org 
Subject: [Suspected Spam] [systemd-devel] Link groups in systemd-networkd
Hi,

are there any plans for supporting link groups in systemd-networkd (like
in iproute2: [1])?

Thanks for your help.
Best
Philip

[1]: 
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Re: [systemd-devel] reboot on emergency.target

[Lennart Poettering]

On Di, 07.04.20 11:26, Matwey V. Kornilov (matwey.korni...@gmail.com) wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I would like my system to reboot (with some cool down timeout) on
> emergency.target instead of running the emergency shell. What would be
> the recommended way to achieve this behavior? Is it ok just to override
> default emergency.service to whatever I want?

Just override emergency.service in /etc/systemd/system/ with a service
of your own, that sleeps and then issues "systemctl reboot".

You could also just mask the service and pull in a different service
instead. Or you could mask it + pull in reboot.target as a dependency
from emergency.target via a .wants/ symlink (but then you woudln't get
your cool down timout).

Lennart

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Re: [systemd-devel] how to become static a service by systemctl command line

[Lennart Poettering]

On Di, 07.04.20 11:00, Dorian ROSSE (dorianbr...@hotmail.fr) wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
> I have disabled service but I want thoses services start when they
> need by become thoses services static (I hope this is this word in
> English It went by the french word statique)

I cannot parse this, sorry.

Lennart

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[systemd-devel] how to become static a service by systemctl command line

[Dorian ROSSE]

Hello,


I have disabled service but I want thoses services start when they need by 
become thoses services static (I hope this is this word in English It went by 
the french word statique)

Thank you in advance for your help,

Regards.


Dorian ROSSE.
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[systemd-devel] Antw: [EXT] Re: reboot on emergency.target

[Ulrich Windl]

>>> Michal Zegan  schrieb am 07.04.2020 um 11:32 in
Nachricht
<5085_1586252516_5E8C4AE3_5085_481_1_30bb2233-0ec7-ce60-a2fb-1e6830564358@poczta
onet.pl>:
> Hi,
> Curious what is the use case. For me emergency is used mostly when I run
> the kernel with the emergency cmdline parameter or when something fails
> and I have to debug it before everything else starts.

"Boot makes everything good"? (from German "Alles gut macht der Boot") ;-)
> 
> W dniu 07.04.2020 o 10:26, Matwey V. Kornilov pisze:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I would like my system to reboot (with some cool down timeout) on
>> emergency.target instead of running the emergency shell. What would be
>> the recommended way to achieve this behavior? Is it ok just to override
>> default emergency.service to whatever I want?
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Re: [systemd-devel] reboot on emergency.target

[Michał Zegan]

Hi,
Curious what is the use case. For me emergency is used mostly when I run
the kernel with the emergency cmdline parameter or when something fails
and I have to debug it before everything else starts.

W dniu 07.04.2020 o 10:26, Matwey V. Kornilov pisze:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like my system to reboot (with some cool down timeout) on
> emergency.target instead of running the emergency shell. What would be
> the recommended way to achieve this behavior? Is it ok just to override
> default emergency.service to whatever I want?
> 
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[systemd-devel] reboot on emergency.target

[Matwey V. Kornilov]

Hi,

I would like my system to reboot (with some cool down timeout) on
emergency.target instead of running the emergency shell. What would be
the recommended way to achieve this behavior? Is it ok just to override
default emergency.service to whatever I want?

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