[systemd-devel] Pronoun confusion
Hello Friends, I’m slightly confused by this commit: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=989fc2c61cb3c5376bd8bff6b2cfba9e4d740ffc. The use of their/they/them is correct as a singular gender neutral pronoun in English[1]. I think this change so that the language to reads “his” is worse. I think this because readers that do not identify as being a man may find that the language is exclusionary. I’m new to the ways of systemd so, if you genuinely believe this is better in the systemd context, I’d love to hear an explanation of why this change was made. I’m just trying to understand :) [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they Thanks — Sam Phippen ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] Pronoun confusion
B1;3409;0cOn Fri, 24.10.14 11:20, Sam Phippen (samphip...@googlemail.com) wrote: Hello Friends, I’m slightly confused by this commit: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=989fc2c61cb3c5376bd8bff6b2cfba9e4d740ffc. The use of their/they/them is correct as a singular gender neutral pronoun in English[1]. I think this change so that the language to reads “his” is worse. I think this because readers that do not identify as being a man may find that the language is exclusionary. I’m new to the ways of systemd so, if you genuinely believe this is better in the systemd context, I’d love to hear an explanation of why this change was made. I’m just trying to understand :) This has already been changed again: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=c1405e4f313768519d66f49e0ffcbe964409d150 Please always check git first whether the issue you are having is still there. I am not sure where you got your hints about this from, but it would be nice to report this back to wherever you got it from, so that we don't have tons of people posting the same here over and over again, because they are too lazy to check git. Thank you for your understanding, Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] Pronoun confusion
Ah, my bad. Just saw some stuff floating around twitter. Thanks for dealing with this more quickly and efficiently than I was expecting. Thanks — Sam Phippen On 24 Oct 2014, at 11:25, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: B1;3409;0cOn Fri, 24.10.14 11:20, Sam Phippen (samphip...@googlemail.com) wrote: Hello Friends, I’m slightly confused by this commit: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=989fc2c61cb3c5376bd8bff6b2cfba9e4d740ffc. The use of their/they/them is correct as a singular gender neutral pronoun in English[1]. I think this change so that the language to reads “his” is worse. I think this because readers that do not identify as being a man may find that the language is exclusionary. I’m new to the ways of systemd so, if you genuinely believe this is better in the systemd context, I’d love to hear an explanation of why this change was made. I’m just trying to understand :) This has already been changed again: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=c1405e4f313768519d66f49e0ffcbe964409d150 Please always check git first whether the issue you are having is still there. I am not sure where you got your hints about this from, but it would be nice to report this back to wherever you got it from, so that we don't have tons of people posting the same here over and over again, because they are too lazy to check git. Thank you for your understanding, Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] Pronoun confusion
On Fri, 24.10.14 11:27, Sam Phippen (samphip...@googlemail.com) wrote: Ah, my bad. Just saw some stuff floating around twitter. It would be fantastic if you could point the folks who use twitter to this commit, in the hope to get them off our backs, thank you: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=c1405e4f313768519d66f49e0ffcbe964409d150 Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
