t-and-f: Alan Webb signs with.... Michigan
From today's Washington Post South Lakes' Webb Will Sign With Michigan By Alan Goldenbach Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, November 8, 2000 ; Page D11 South Lakes senior Alan Webb, a six-time All-Met runner, plans to sign a national letter-of-intent with Michigan during the week-long early signing period, which begins today. Webb, the top high school distance runner in the country, said he chose Michigan over Stanford and William Mary. Michigan's men's cross-country team finished fourth in the nation in 1997 and 1998 and was fifth last season, and won Big Ten titles in 1997 and 1998. The Webbs lived in Ann Arbor, Mich., before moving to Reston 14 years ago. "There was a feeling that I got that I fit in really well" at Michigan, Webb said. "Now I'm ready to get this out of the way and concentrate on running." The early signing period runs through Nov. 15, after which an athlete may not sign a national letter-of-intent until April 11. Football, field hockey, soccer and water polo are the only sports that do not have early signing periods. Athletes in those sports may begin signing Feb. 7. Three Montrose Christian basketball players--guards Tony Bethel and Drew Hall and forward Harvey Thomas--all intend to sign with Georgetown. Their teammate, power forward Levi Watkins, plans to sign with North Carolina State, giving Montrose more Division I signings than any other area team. The 6-foot-8, 220-pound Watkins, who played his first two high school seasons at Pallotti before transferring to the Rockville school prior to last season, averaged 16.6 points and 10 rebounds per game last season. Joining Watkins at North Carolina State will be DeMatha center Jordan Collins. A rare four-year starter for Coach Morgan Wootten, the 6-10 Collins averaged 12.7 points, 9 rebounds and 3 blocks last season. Billy Edelin, a second-team All-Met guard at DeMatha who transferred to Oak Hill Academy in southern Virginia last spring, will sign with Syracuse. Former Newport School forward James White, who transferred to Hargrave Military Academy over the summer after averaging 25 points per game for the Tigers, is expected to sign with Florida. Eleanor Roosevelt teammates Edward Basden and Delonte West plan to sign with Massachusetts and St. Joseph's, respectively. Paint Branch guard Rochelle Coleman plans to sign with Syracuse, to which she gave a oral commitment last month. "It still hasn't really hit me," Coleman said. "Until I see [the letter] signed in front of me, that's when I know it's really done. But I've got all my [Syracuse] shirts, and I'm ready to go." Riverdale Baptist All-Met first baseman Mikey Sweeney will sign with Florida, but baseball players' college decisions are not usually finalized until after Major League Baseball's amateur draft in June. © 2000 The Washington Post
t-and-f: Big bucks for swimming gold + WR
The Associated Press reported Tuesday that USA Swimming will give $1 million to an American swimmer won sets a world record in winning the men's 1,500-meter freestyle or women's 800-meter free at the 2004 Games. The winner's coach would get $500,000. The organization wants to produce "a higher level of focus, attention and enthusiasm to distance swimming." Maybe the USATF can achieve the same thing by offering a cabin on the side of a mountain or a trailer down by the river. The report didn't mention whether or not the winner had to be drug-free (just trying to cover all the major threads). Regards, George McWilliams R
t-and-f: NCAA south Regional
Entrants for this weekends NCAA south regional cross country championship are now posted at our web site. At our home page scroll to the middle of the page and click on the NCAA logo to take you to the NCAA regional page. This is the same site where results will be posted on Saturday mid-day. www.cfpitiming.com Enjoy Cleon Fowler C.F.P.I. Timing Data, Inc. www.cfpitiming.com "The answer to all of your timing needs"
t-and-f: Olympic trivia--twice.
I think I remember reading, somewhere, that Olympic champions in the earliest games of the modern era were awarded silver medals, not gold. I haven't been able to confirm this in sources I've checked recently. Can anyone set the matter straight? In the first of Stacy Dragila's Sydney vaults shown on TV, she appeared to be upset and anxious, even though she had cleared the height. That is very, very unlike Stacy, who typically is totally upbeat. Does anyone know what that was about? Thanks, Roger
t-and-f: RE: : Team USA Training Centers - How and Why?
It was posted by From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 14:34:15 EST Subject: t-and-f: Team USA Training Centers Wire 89, November 3, 2000 In this edition of the Running USA wire: 1) Team USA Training Centers Announced Copyright (c) 2000 Running USA * FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE For more information, contact: Basil Honikman, (805) 683-0408; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ryan Lamppa, (805) 696-6232; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Team USA Distance Running Announces Two Training Centers On-Line Sites Selected at Rochester Hills, MI and Rochester, NY with More Coming As these seem to be created somewhat out of the vapor in the past few months, can someone post to the list a (pretty detailed) outline of : - how an area applied to be a Training Center - how these centers were selected (some don't seem to be hotbeds of running) - what is being provided for funding by both Running USA and USATF (like cash) - what the "center" or sponsor at that center is expected to provide (lodging, jobs, stipends, travel, ???) - what the short and long term funding is to be - what the focus of the program is - i.e., road running along, or distance running to include track 5/10? - what the status of women is, given the two named sites list no women on their rosters - whether athletes will be required to live "in-residence" at the centers, and what the athletes other obligations are? - whether there a plan to have a grant/support program that would work with areas that may already have, by chance, decent training groups or is all support going into these particular centers? - how the SoCal program will get an in at the Olympic Training Center - what the coaching / training / racing plans are for these groups - what the plan is to evaluate the successes of particular centers and the program as a whole Thanks Steve Vaitones SANTA BARBARA, Calif. - (November 3, 2000) - Team USA Distance Running, a joint program of Running USA and USA Track Field, announced today the establishment of two Team USA Training Centers in Rochester Hills, Michigan and Rochester, New York. The Centers--which will provide coaching, structured group training and athlete support and promotion--are a partnership between Running USA, USATF, Hansons Running Shop and Team BrownStone. "We welcome our first two Team USA Training Centers and applaud the initiative and generosity of Keith and Kevin Hanson and John Luther in forming their training groups. Their commitment to distance running is deeply appreciated. With several more training centers scheduled to be on-line in 2001, together, we have a chance to elevate U.S. distance running in the minds of the public and to create an American running renaissance," stated Basil Honikman, Team USA Distance Running coordinator. "We are very pleased to partner with USATF and Running USA to dramatically improve post-collegiate American distance running. The Hansons Running Shop Olympic development program is proud to have our program recognized as a role model for developing U.S. distance runners," said Keith and Kevin Hanson of the Hansons Running Shop. "It is an honor to be associated with Running USA and USATF as one of the first Team USA Training Centers. It is gratifying to know that what we at Team BrownStone started two years ago will be part of the Team USA structure that will help bring U.S. distance running back to world-class levels. The true winners in this endeavor will be the athletes who will now have a program available to fully support their training and goals," stated John Luther, Team BrownStone coach. Plans for Team USA Southern California are nearing completion and this center may open early in the New Year. Led by Bob Larsen, former UCLA head track coach and headed by U.S. Olympian and 10,000 meter champion Meb Keflezighi, Team USA Southern California will probably utilize the ARCO U.S. Olympic Training Center in Chula Vista, California (near San Diego) together with high altitude springtime training at Mammoth in the California Sierras, east of Yosemite. In addition, Team USA Training Centers in Seattle, Washington with Club Northwest and USATF Vice President Bill Roe and Pocatello, Idaho under the direction of USATF Men's LDR chair Danny Grimes are also scheduled to open in 2001. About Funds to Support Team USA Distance Running A fund raising program was announced at the U.S. Olympic Trials in Sacramento last July. The program was jump-started by Allan Steinfeld, New York City Marathon Race Director and President of the New York Road Runners Club, pledging $20,000 or $1 for every U.S. runner in the 2000 marathon. Bill Rodgers, four-time New York City and Boston Marathon champion, pledged $5000 from his December 2000 Jingle Bell Run and Denver Race Director and distance running leader, Creigh Kelley promised $2000 on behalf of the BKB Ltd. Holiday Series. In addition, Larry Eder of Shooting Star Media, publisher of American Track Field will provide
Re: t-and-f: RE: : Team USA Training Centers - How and Why?
And while you are at it, explaining things, whoever the explainer may be, can you address this issueROCHESTER Grote adiRP - Original Message - From: Steve Vaitones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 4:45 PM Subject: t-and-f: RE: : Team USA Training Centers - How and Why? It was posted by From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 14:34:15 EST Subject: t-and-f: Team USA Training Centers Wire 89, November 3, 2000 In this edition of the Running USA wire: 1) Team USA Training Centers Announced Copyright (c) 2000 Running USA * FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE For more information, contact: Basil Honikman, (805) 683-0408; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ryan Lamppa, (805) 696-6232; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Team USA Distance Running Announces Two Training Centers On-Line Sites Selected at Rochester Hills, MI and Rochester, NY with More Coming As these seem to be created somewhat out of the vapor in the past few months, can someone post to the list a (pretty detailed) outline of : - how an area applied to be a Training Center - how these centers were selected (some don't seem to be hotbeds of running) - what is being provided for funding by both Running USA and USATF (like cash) - what the "center" or sponsor at that center is expected to provide (lodging, jobs, stipends, travel, ???) - what the short and long term funding is to be - what the focus of the program is - i.e., road running along, or distance running to include track 5/10? - what the status of women is, given the two named sites list no women on their rosters - whether athletes will be required to live "in-residence" at the centers, and what the athletes other obligations are? - whether there a plan to have a grant/support program that would work with areas that may already have, by chance, decent training groups or is all support going into these particular centers? - how the SoCal program will get an in at the Olympic Training Center - what the coaching / training / racing plans are for these groups - what the plan is to evaluate the successes of particular centers and the program as a whole Thanks Steve Vaitones SANTA BARBARA, Calif. - (November 3, 2000) - Team USA Distance Running, a joint program of Running USA and USA Track Field, announced today the establishment of two Team USA Training Centers in Rochester Hills, Michigan and Rochester, New York. The Centers--which will provide coaching, structured group training and athlete support and promotion--are a partnership between Running USA, USATF, Hansons Running Shop and Team BrownStone. "We welcome our first two Team USA Training Centers and applaud the initiative and generosity of Keith and Kevin Hanson and John Luther in forming their training groups. Their commitment to distance running is deeply appreciated. With several more training centers scheduled to be on-line in 2001, together, we have a chance to elevate U.S. distance running in the minds of the public and to create an American running renaissance," stated Basil Honikman, Team USA Distance Running coordinator. "We are very pleased to partner with USATF and Running USA to dramatically improve post-collegiate American distance running. The Hansons Running Shop Olympic development program is proud to have our program recognized as a role model for developing U.S. distance runners," said Keith and Kevin Hanson of the Hansons Running Shop. "It is an honor to be associated with Running USA and USATF as one of the first Team USA Training Centers. It is gratifying to know that what we at Team BrownStone started two years ago will be part of the Team USA structure that will help bring U.S. distance running back to world-class levels. The true winners in this endeavor will be the athletes who will now have a program available to fully support their training and goals," stated John Luther, Team BrownStone coach. Plans for Team USA Southern California are nearing completion and this center may open early in the New Year. Led by Bob Larsen, former UCLA head track coach and headed by U.S. Olympian and 10,000 meter champion Meb Keflezighi, Team USA Southern California will probably utilize the ARCO U.S. Olympic Training Center in Chula Vista, California (near San Diego) together with high altitude springtime training at Mammoth in the California Sierras, east of Yosemite. In addition, Team USA Training Centers in Seattle, Washington with Club Northwest and USATF Vice President Bill Roe and Pocatello, Idaho under the direction of USATF Men's LDR chair Danny Grimes are also scheduled to open in 2001. About Funds to Support Team USA Distance Running A fund raising program was announced at the U.S. Olympic Trials in Sacramento last July. The program was jump-started by Allan Steinfeld, New York City Marathon Race Director and President of the New York Road Runners Club,
Re: t-and-f: Olympic trivia--twice.
In a message dated 11/8/00 14:20:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think I remember reading, somewhere, that Olympic champions in the earliest games of the modern era were awarded silver medals, not gold. I haven't been able to confirm this in sources I've checked recently. Can anyone set the matter straight? de Coubertin thought gold was crass; originally frist and second were given silver and bronze. He relented for the '08 Games. gh
Re: FW: t-and-f: Temperature and performance
In a message dated 11/7/00 08:58:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have looked at some of these things over the past few years and I have not seen any hard data on adjusting times for temperature differences. Temperatures in the low to mid 60's F (15-20 C) seems to be ideal. Maybe some of the exercise physios in the crowd can cast some light on this (regards LOW temperatures). About 20 years ago I decided that i had read about X putting up a great distance performance "despite the cold" that I figured that such analysis must be plain wrong. Can't remember who--or what their credentials on the subject were like--but somebody once told me that the colder it got, the better it was for distance running simply because of the environment wicking away excess body heat. The only reason people tend to be hampered in the cold is because often there's a nasty wind which accompanies it. (talking distance running here, not sprinting). Was i fed a line? (empiric evidence has continued to convince me that there has to be some truth to it) gh
Re: t-and-f: RE: : Team USA Training Centers - How and Why?
In a message dated 11/8/00 5:43:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And while you are at it, explaining things, whoever the explainer may be, can you address this issueROCHESTER Grote adiRP Rochester is a fine place to train with a group assembled that can support runners of caliber. Rochester and upstate NY has produced many Olympians and fine runners over the years.
Re: t-and-f: Performances comparison
In a message dated 11/7/00 11:25:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This website, developed by Rinaldo Zocca, has developed a statistically-sound approach to comparing world records. MJ's 400 and 200 are ranked as the most advanced, even compared to FloJo's 100, which is the leading women's performance. http://digilander.iol.it/rzocca/reccomp/reccomp.htm Sorry, but i have trouble accepting "statistically sound" for any methodology which rates anything above the 10.49. Not only was the legal-wind flow on a different planet from the rest, but the 10.49 was also not legal, pushing it even farther out of the realm of probability (how windy was it? let's just say that as the race ended i looked up and saw Dorothy and Toto go whizzing by). gh
t-and-f: Team USA Training Centers - How and Why?
RP, Put your name on your post, please. You should check your facts before running your mouth. Why would the New Mexico based agent who has no American Athletes in New Mexico (except soon to be masters runner, Eddy) need a vacation spot in NY. Would it not make sense for this to be the other way around when Albuquerque has one of the best climates for training year round? How about the fact that John Luther has gotten support from corporations and businesses to support young American distance runners and a training camp. What has MountainAir Sports Management done to get athletes supported in the 10k and Marathon distances? Answer; Nothing at all! The World 1/2 in being competed this week in Veracruz, Mexico and 3 of the 5 men are going to be Hellebuyck Managed Athletes. What other management group has more young Americans who are performing? Answer; None. Let us see, What management or training group had Four athletes in the top 10 at the Olympic Trials marathon? Answer; Hellebuyck, 2nd Peter De La Cerda, 5th Eddy Hellebuyck, 8th Jeff Campbell, 10th Teddy Mitchell. Not to mention the American Record Holder before Khannouchi.There are several others joining with Hellebucyk Enterprises as we speak. Whoever you are, RP! The Hanson's Group has some great runners and I wish them all the best. There are actually several other sites being considered for future training sites. Rochester was chosen mostly for the community support and the great leadership. Basically the Hanson Brothers and Rochester, John Luther, were the first sites to get it together and apply without delay. I could not let this one go without a response. RP you are a great person. Be proud to knock the agent of 8 total of the top 20 marathoners in America. Good Job! Teddy Mitchell Unv. Of Arkansas Hellebuyck Management US Army
t-and-f: Re: Team USA Training Centers - How and Why?
Easy Bisquit... I was not knocking the group of runners from the Hellybuyck Group. I was just pointing out that the runners listed as members of Team BrownStone are from her New Mexico based group. Tell me if I am wrong there! I do not dispute the fact that you and your group have done well. My business is not involved in representing runners; however, if you want to compare bones...In the sports that I represent; my athletes have had the needs met; and excelled beyond even your wildest imagination in support, endorsement and World Level Competition. Granted, even though my roots are in the sport of running, my business and the way that I choose to make a living is not. People like you are why I do not contribute to this list. I see you have not changed since your days at UT. Rob Perkins Mountain Air Sports --- "teddym.10k" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RP, Put your name on your post, please. You should check your facts before running your mouth. Why would the New Mexico based agent who has no American Athletes in New Mexico (except soon to be masters runner, Eddy) need a vacation spot in NY. Would it not make sense for this to be the other way around when Albuquerque has one of the best climates for training year round? How about the fact that John Luther has gotten support from corporations and businesses to support young American distance runners and a training camp. What has MountainAir Sports Management done to get athletes supported in the 10k and Marathon distances? Answer; Nothing at all! The World 1/2 in being competed this week in Veracruz, Mexico and 3 of the 5 men are going to be Hellebuyck Managed Athletes. What other management group has more young Americans who are performing? Answer; None. Let us see, What management or training group had Four athletes in the top 10 at the Olympic Trials marathon? Answer; Hellebuyck, 2nd Peter De La Cerda, 5th Eddy Hellebuyck, 8th Jeff Campbell, 10th Teddy Mitchell. Not to mention the American Record Holder before Khannouchi.There are several others joining with Hellebucyk Enterprises as we speak. Whoever you are, RP! The Hanson's Group has some great runners and I wish them all the best. There are actually several other sites being considered for future training sites. Rochester was chosen mostly for the community support and the great leadership. Basically the Hanson Brothers and Rochester, John Luther, were the first sites to get it together and apply without delay. I could not let this one go without a response. RP you are a great person. Be proud to knock the agent of 8 total of the top 20 marathoners in America. Good Job! Teddy Mitchell Unv. Of Arkansas Hellebuyck Management US Army . Hellebuyck Management US Army . __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: t-and-f: RE: : Team USA Training Centers - How and Why?
In a message dated 11/8/00 8:53:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rochester... Nothing more than a vacation spot for the New Mexico based Shawn Hellybuyck stable of athletes. The list is of athletes that she represents. Politics, Politics. Bravo for Keith and Kevin Hanson getting selected. I think what they are doing for young American Distance runners is great. Much more than that shiester coach of the Athletics America crew did. Also, if any of you think that you can provide a better environment, benefits, coaching, and funding for a group in your area; Running USA and USATF is taking applications. I don't think they want to stop at just 2 locations. Cheers... RP Mountain Air Sports That was a clueless uninformed response. This is a John Luther project and something he has been working on for years, before he even met Eddy. The support team John has assembled is impressive. People do a lot of talking and complaining about our plight, some have made an effort to develop talent, others sit back and take cheap shot with no knowledge of the facts. Succeed or fail, Luther and company are putting their money where their mouth is, I for one support them. Mike Platt
t-and-f: Re: Team USA Training Centers - How and Why?
Rob Perkins, Now it is time to keep this off the list. This is my last response to the list. You do not and have not ever known me or the person that I am today or in 1990-93. The entire, you have not changes since, Tennessee is a very bad put down and a juvenile attempt at redeeming yourself. When I was at UT, I had a coach named Doug Brown, who wasted three years of my life. Argue this point, since I have had three coaches since this man and run 28:47 or faster for each one. How is it that since I do not know you nor have I even known you that you know me from my Tennessee days? If you get your opinions from anyone from Knoxville (athletes who ran with me and like to make up stories about orange juice and everything else to make themselves feel better) , you are dealing with jealous people. Remeber I left Tennessee and in 10 months won an NCAA individual title. This was an achievement that even the great Todd Williams could not do in Knoxville. Not one in Knoxville liked me after I won NCAAs. George Watts and Bill Webb are great coaches and I do not want this post to be directed towards any bad mouthing of UT or the Tennessee program. Shawn is based in New Mexico, but none of her athletes live there at all. No one besides her Husband, who spent the last 7 weeks in Rochester training for the Chicago Marathon, to be exact. There are actually two athlete named to the Brownstone group who just live in NY and are not a part of the Hellebucyk group as of today. People like me are the people who spend their own money and time to make a difference in the sport. I want to get on the the athletes advisory commitee at USATF to try to get more support for American marathoners. I speak to several leaders in our sport on a weekly basis. I am involved in helping young people stay in the sport. You can make me out as some asshole who cares only about myself, but me and my group and those who I represent know this not to be true. By the way Rob, I did not have an email account or computer at UT, so what does that entire comment mean? By the way, since I am in a regular US Army unit working 50-60 hours a week and going to the field, why is it that I was still 12th at the 10k road championships? Teddy Mitchell Team Hellebuyck Team Brownstone US Army
t-and-f: Do we really need help of sponsers, USATF, ect....
Do US road racers, mainly marathoners, really need help? Do we really need training centers that pay for our room and board, put us through these grinding tests, coach us, and pamper us like babies? I'm somewhat curious, did Bill Rogers, Frank Shorter and the other runners of the 70's and 80's have a whole lot of help? From my understanding weren't Rogers and others such as Steve Prefontaine fighting the AAU for help at the time? I may be wrong. Once again I may be mistaken, but US distance runners didn't have a whole lot of help back then either. It all comes down to how poor are you willing to live in order to maximize your running potential. Do we need more than an apartment shared by 2-4? I can easily see 4 people sharing a 2 bedroom apartment, 2 beds in each bedroom, for $500-$600 a month. Most apartment complexes pay for most of your utilities. You only pay gas and electric in most. So, add $400 for food and gas/electric and you come up with $900-$1000. That's only $250 split between the four per month. Each person could easily live on a 20-hr a week job. Less work, more run. Maybe my thinking is too spartan? It's only a matter of convincing runners in their early 20's to put "life" on hold, get a commited group together and move to an environment that is extremely runner friendly. The problem with runners in their upper 20's is that "life" has already began to take hold. Most people in their early 20's don't have houses to pay for or marriages and kids to worry about or careers to tend to. By the time you're in your upper 20's you've already wasted your goof-off time and you have to start thinking about your life. So, here I am. I plan on moving to Flagstaff, AZ next fall with one goal in mind...improve my running. I don't have the talent of a Webb, Ritz, Hauser, Teddy Mitchell or whoever, but what I do have is balls and commitment. Being only 22 I also have youth. By the time I'm 30, sink or float, I will have at least given it my best shot. This is an invitation to any other early 20-something runners to join me on my "attempt to climb the mountain" so to speak. Are there any young runners on here anyway? Alan _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
t-and-f: Do we really need help...
Alan, Do we need help? We sent one person to the Olympics in the Men's and the Women's Marathon! You figure it out or get a clue big man! Josh Cox has a similar story that he could share with you about training and making the break. The one major difference between the 70s and today is the Kenyan factor. Shorter, Rogers, and Pre were hard working athletes but they could not have done what they did if 2:09 was 61st in the world in 1974. The African national have upped the world standard and America is looking for ways to raise the bar in this country. Americans do not need to be pampered and those who are using these camps are not driving new cars and living the big lives. These guys are making ends meet to pay for a chance to train 10 hours a day. I am enlisted in the Army and I make $1243 per month. It is not great and I am not acquiring wealth, but I am able to train harder than those who have financial concerns. This is exactly how Dr. Rosa does it with the Kenyans. It is about quality of life. Focus on running is one thing, but life's daily worries can pull on a person mentally and keep him or her from reaching their athletic potential. The Fila Group in California has had some great results (Josh Cox 6 min in 6 months in the marathon, Christine Junkerman an incredible marathon debut in 2:32). This is what the camps do for Americans. This is the rise in American distance running that can lead to Americans going in the sub 2:09 range and many of us have the talent to do this today. Camps are not a new idea. Every country in the world has a national government sponsored camp for the cross teams and distance runners to gather and train very hard. Dr. Rosa and Fila recently brought this idea to the US and implemented it. The Fila Group has meals prepared for them and massage daily. Do you think this is pampering or preparing an athlete to get more quality work done on a daily basis? Josh Cox has ran over 130 miles per week at altitude for like 14 weeks going into the 2:13:54 at Chicago this fall. Josh had no life worries other than training hard everyday and her worked harder than most and achieved at an excellent level. Why do athletes have to suffer to run fast? This is not true at all. John Luther and the Brownstone group should get nothing but praise for the proposal and sponsorship that they have made available for athletes to be able to work harder and make bigger gains in training. Alan, I do not want to criticize you. Americans do need to work harder, but not at the cost of living in the greatest country on the planet without television, books, and computers to consume idle time. When you live cheap and work 20 hours a week in flagstaff, where it snows several inches in the winter, you will be behind the Hanson, Brownstone, and Fila trained athletes in the end, no matter how much you sacrifice because they are able to train harder than you. Quality of life is the real deal. Thanks for your time. Teddy M.
Re: t-and-f: Re: Team USA Training Centers - How and Why?
Netters Edward Nigma? Ed my apologies for being a bone head and really this is only because so many other bone heads come on with fake yahoo accounts. But have you ever noticed when you say Edward Nigma it comes out sort of close to enigma? Sorry.
