Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results

2001-08-02 Thread RunrCoach

This week's SI says to check out the following websites for results and 
features:

iaaf.org
trackwire.com
trackandfieldnews.com
usatf.org

A.C.



Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results

2001-08-02 Thread Hans-Erik Pettersson

Look for Results and you find the startlists!
Here is the Marathon-startlist:
http://www.iaaf.org/WCH01/Results/data/M/MAR/Sf.html

- Original Message - 
From: Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results


 Yesterday, NETRACK posted--
 
 Sorry to bother everyone. What's the best link for getting timely and
 up-to-minute results from the World Championships? Is it the IAAF link, or
 does the WC have their own link to results?
 
 Cheers,
 Larry
 
 I haven't seen an answer to Larry's question, and I'm finding the IAAF
 site, as usual, tortuous to navigate. I did get as far as a page headed
 Edmonton Championships--Results, but it was blank. In most track website
 organization, that would should startlists until results are available.
 
 Has anyone found, anywhere, startlists for events on Saturday; like 48
 hours away? If it's somewhere in the IAAF site, could you give the complete
 URL for that particular page? It would be much appreciated.
 
 Cheers,
 Roger
 
 




Re: t-and-f: CBC camera perspectives

2001-08-02 Thread Dr Kamal Jabbour

On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Roger Ruth wrote:

 ... Perhaps he
 would comment on the similarities and differences in the IBM and CBC
 systems and why they are so seldom used.
 
 I wouldn't be able to imagine--let alone explain--the difference between
 what I described as a gyro-balanced camera and what he called a
 critically damped open loop control system... 

I believe it is the same system. The camera is dangled over the stadium
from pillars at the four corners. Four stepper motors release or pull each
wire independently in small steps, positioning the camera anywhere in the
3-D space above the stadium. Three additional degrees of freedom allow
rotating the camera, tilting it up or down, and zooming it.

The software controls the entire system. Predetermined trajectories are
programmed into the computers to move the camera swiftly from one place to
another. For example: go to the pole vault pit, or follow lane 1 on the
track.

Kamal.

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2-222 Center for Science and Technology /|\/  |\
Syracuse University, Syracuse NY 13244-4100  | |
Phone 315-443-3000, Fax 315-443-2583  __/ \  \/ \
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RE: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids

2001-08-02 Thread DukeTrack

A few notes to add to this debate.  I took a pharmacology class this spring and wrote 
a review type paper on the present state of what is known of EPO and some of its uses 
and misuses.  If anyone wants to look at it or see some of the sources I found email 
me privately.  
Secondly I agree with Buck completely.  EPO is dangerous.  Carefully monitored it can 
be helpful.  I believe the doses used in some of the elite athlete trials that have 
been done were 50 unit injections received daily.  The enhancement on a cardiovascular 
test after 3 weeks of receiving injections was something on the order of 15% increase 
in cardiovascular run time on a treadmill (with the discontinuation of treatment if 
the Hematocrit level got above a certain %).  If someone does the math on that its a 
pretty good sized improvement.  
BUT BUT BUT BUT, there are some very serious risks that one is taking by using EPO.  
First is that using it will actually CAUSE anemia if you don't take supplements (As 
Buck mentioned), and the viscosity of your blood can get so high with increase in RBC 
levels that you have a great strain on your heart.  
Is it something college athletes use?  Probably not, is it available to one of these 
athletes? Maybe but that is unclear.  If the athlete did obtain it there would be so 
many factors that must be monitored for it to be effective that it would take a few 
very well trained doctors to do it.  Why do you think Lance Armstrong has an 
entourage?  (Not saying he is doped, but heck he has a guy that his sole job is to set 
up Lances altitude tent!!!).  
Lastly but definitely not least, the kids that Brian said stopped smoking pot 10 days 
before a drug test either 1) All failed that drug test because it takes at LEAST 30 
days for THC to go down to a low level to not be detected (by most standard tests)or 
2) They wanted to sound cool and anti-authority about the test and actually were not 
dope smokers.

Oh, and one final thing.  A professor here at Duke (the one who taught this 
pharmacology class I took) has written a new and really good book about a variety of 
different drugs used in sports.  It is called 'Pumped' and is by Cindy Kuhn.  

Jeremy Block
Duke University

PS -- Because of the way recombinant EPO (rhEPO) was made you can now test for it 
using markers I believe.



Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results

2001-08-02 Thread Roger Ruth

Yesterday, NETRACK posted--

Sorry to bother everyone. What's the best link for getting timely and
up-to-minute results from the World Championships? Is it the IAAF link, or
does the WC have their own link to results?

Cheers,
Larry

I haven't seen an answer to Larry's question, and I'm finding the IAAF
site, as usual, tortuous to navigate. I did get as far as a page headed
Edmonton Championships--Results, but it was blank. In most track website
organization, that would should startlists until results are available.

Has anyone found, anywhere, startlists for events on Saturday; like 48
hours away? If it's somewhere in the IAAF site, could you give the complete
URL for that particular page? It would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
Roger





Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results

2001-08-02 Thread Mike Takaha

The protocol for final entry confirmation has a rolling schedule, in which
events are finalized two days prior to the first round, by noon today for
Saturday's events and by 9:00 a.m. on succeeding days.  Once the entries
close for the day, I would assume some time is taken to confirm marks, etc.
to make sure the requisite qualifying marks have been attained and the
athletes are seeded properly for the first round, heats are drawn and
checked to make sure nothing is amiss.  It is likely the start lists will be
available late that evening or early the next morning (there may be
something in their instructions that specifies a time the start lists should
be released).

Mike Takaha

- Original Message -
From: Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results


 Yesterday, NETRACK posted--

 Sorry to bother everyone. What's the best link for getting timely and
 up-to-minute results from the World Championships? Is it the IAAF link,
or
 does the WC have their own link to results?
 
 Cheers,
 Larry

 I haven't seen an answer to Larry's question, and I'm finding the IAAF
 site, as usual, tortuous to navigate. I did get as far as a page headed
 Edmonton Championships--Results, but it was blank. In most track website
 organization, that would should startlists until results are available.

 Has anyone found, anywhere, startlists for events on Saturday; like 48
 hours away? If it's somewhere in the IAAF site, could you give the
complete
 URL for that particular page? It would be much appreciated.

 Cheers,
 Roger







t-and-f: National records before Edmonton

2001-08-02 Thread michel.saint-raymond

Just before the first event in Edmonton, look at the national records of 97
countries in the world in AthleRecords :
http://aimeserre.multimania.com/index.html




Re: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids

2001-08-02 Thread Mpplatt

In a message dated 8/2/01 5:11:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 Lastly but definitely not least, the kids that Brian said stopped smoking 
pot 
 10 days before a drug test either 1) All failed that drug test because it 
 takes at LEAST 30 days for THC to go down to a low level to not be detected 
(
 by most standard tests)or 2) They wanted to sound cool and anti-authority 
 about the test and actually were not dope smokers.
You can clear in a week.
Particularly if you have low body fat, don't smoke chronically and you drink 
a ton of water.
30 days is the standard for daily users.

Mike



t-and-f: Lewis facing heartache decision as illness strikes

2001-08-02 Thread Eamonn Condon

The Electronic Telegraph
Friday 3 August 2001
Tom Knight




OLYMPIC champion Denise Lewis is facing World Championship heartache here as
she was forced to pull out of training with a stomach complaint yesterday.
Her chances of competing in the heptathlon were put at only 50-50 by her
coach, Charles van Commenee.

Lewis is one of Britain's best hopes at the Games after taking the world by
storm to strike gold at last year's Olympics in Sydney.

However, her Dutch coach appeared at a press conference in her absence
yesterday and said: Denise has been suffering from a stomach problem since
yesterday and at this point it is hard to say what will happen. She is ill
and her chances of competing are 50-50. She will probably not be able to
make a decision until Saturday morning.

Denise has to feel good enough to compete and we shall see on the day, but
right now she is vomiting and has a stomach ache. She has had problems with
her stomach for years and some days are worse than others. She has seen the
team doctors here and the best thing for her now is to simply stay in bed.

Van Commenee said that although Lewis had suffered from similar problems in
the past, he did not remember them coming so close to a major championship.

A change of name could not prevent the world governing body running into the
same old problems yesterday. Despite protests from their biggest members,
the renamed International Association of Athletics Federations - they have
finally dropped the word, 'Amateur' from their title - successfully steered
their new rule on false starts through congress.

By a vote of 81 to 74, the IAAF Congress decided that, as from Jan 1, 2003,
in all races up to 400 metres, only one false start by a single athlete will
be allowed. After that, any athlete guilty of a false start will be
disqualified. The present rule states that every athlete is allowed one
false start.

Originally, the IAAF's ruling council considered having no false starts at
all, the system used in swimming. The new rule is therefore an untried
compromise. This most radical change in the rules seen for decades left
delegates from Britain, the United States and Germany shaking their heads in
disbelief and Europe's top meeting promoters accused the IAAF of not
listening to the athletes.

Svein Arne Hansen, who organises the Bislett Games in Oslo, said: Those
guys have never organised a thing in their lives. They did not listen to
what athletes have been telling them.

David Moorcroft, the chief executive of UK Athletics, said: The bigger
nations and meeting promoters asked for more time but clearly were not
listened to. Athletes will just have to get used to it and we have to help
them, whether we like it or not.

Craig Masback, the chief executive of USA Track and Field, claimed the worst
athletes had been handed an advantage. The new rule offers a bizarre
incentive for the slowest athletes in the field to take a false start in
order to hold the others back.

The championships, which begin tonight with the opening ceremony and men's
marathon, were hit by another doping controversy when Poland withdrew Marcin
Krzywanski from the 100m and Rajmund Kolko from the javelin after both
tested positive at their national trials.

Eamonn Condon
www.RunnersGoal.com




t-and-f: Emperor intent on producing stunning return

2001-08-02 Thread Eamonn Condon

The Electronic Telegraph
Friday 3 August 2001
Tom Knight




HAILE GEBRSELASSIE'S status in Ethiopia was confirmed on his return from
Sydney, when more than a million people lined the streets of Addis Ababa to
welcome him home after his Olympic triumph in the 10,000 metres.

After a career which already includes 15 world records, two Olympic gold
medals and four world titles, it is hard to imagine how Gebrselassie's
reputation as the greatest distance runner the world has seen could be
enhanced.

In Edmonton, this extraordinary little man with the toothy grin has the
answer. In his first appearance on a track since his Olympics victory over
Paul Tergat, Gebrselassie will attempt to capture a fifth consecutive world
title.

The world has missed him and no one but Gebrselassie could have the nerve
and self-belief to make a seasonal debut at a major championship.

There is no Tergat in Edmonton, but winning the 10,000m here still
represents probably the biggest challenge of his career. To win a fifth
title in my first race of the season would be wonderful, but it will not be
easy, he said.

The reason for his late start to the season lies in the damage his legs
sustained through all his years of running. He has never been a fan of the
hard, unforgiving tracks now favoured by the world's major stadiums, and in
Sydney the punishment finally took its toll.

Gebrselassie, 28, spent the winter recovering from surgery performed in
Switzerland to cure the inflammation at the base of his Achilles tendon. His
rehabilitation was slow but meticulous. He said: To be injured is bad but
to rest is good. I can handle both.

He was ready to race in the recent British Grand Prix at Crystal Palace but,
ever the diplomat, Ethiopia's biggest superstar chose instead to comply with
his federation's orders to stay at home with the national team before their
departure for Canada.

It simply meant more training and there is little doubt that Gebrselassie is
ready to put in a world- beating performance. The curing of his Achilles
problem could even mean he is in better shape than when he outsprinted
Tergat in Stadium Australia.

Gebrselassie added: To come into a competition like the World
Championships, you have to be perfect. I have prepared very well but if
someone is stronger than Gebrselassie, he can win.

Sydney was supposed to have been his last 10,000m but here he is, back
again. His marathon debut, postponed by the injury, will now come next
spring.

His manager, Jos Hermens, is in no doubt about Gebrselassie's stature, at
home or abroad: He is the Emperor. Ethiopia is a country racked by Aids,
famine and war and Gebrselassie is their one true success story. He travels
the country, giving out and receiving respect wherever he goes.

Eamonn Condon
www.RunnersGoal.com




t-and-f: USATF Release: World Champs set to start Friday

2001-08-02 Thread Usatfcom99

Contact:Tom Surber
Media Information Manager
USA Track  Field
At the Xerox Media Center: (780) 821-4150
http://www.usatf.org

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Thursday, August 2, 2001

Khannouchi, men's marathoners to kick off World Champs for Team USA

EDMONTON, Canada - The 8th IAAF World Outdoor Track  Field Championships 
begin Friday in Edmonton with Team USA in position to defend its status as 
the World's #1 Track  Field Team.

Olympic gold medalists Marion Jones, Maurice Greene, Stacy Dragila, Angelo 
Taylor, Nick Hysong, Allen Johnson, Gail Devers, Bernard Williams, Tim 
Montgomery, Antonio Pettigrew, Jerome Young, Jon Drummond, Chryste Gaines, 
Jearl Miles-Clark and Monique Hennagan are on the Team USA roster for 
Edmonton. More than 60 of the Team's athletes were 2000 Olympians. 

During the World Championships, a male and female U.S. athlete will be named 
the Xerox Athlete of the Day during each day of competition. On the final day 
of competition, Sunday, August 12, the overall Xerox Athletes of the Meet, 
male and female, will win a Xerox WorkCentre M940. The Xerox WorkCentre M940 
includes a color flatbed printer, a copier, scanner and a PC fax. Xerox also 
is supporting the USATF Xerox Media Center at Commonwealth Stadium.

The Championships begin Friday with the opening ceremonies and the men's 
marathon. World record holder Khalid Khannouchi will lead the five-man 
American team in his first competition representing the U.S. after receiving 
his American citizenship last year. 

A native of Morocco, Khannouchi set the world marathon record of 2:05.42 at 
the 1999 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. In his first marathon as an American 
citizen, Khannouchi set the U.S. record of 2:07.01 last year in Chicago. 

During a USATF teleconference earlier this week, Khannouchi expressed his 
enthusiasm about wearing the U.S. singlet for the first time in Edmonton. 
I'm excited about the new experience, he said. All the years we've been 
fighting and working so hard. It feels good that finally I'm a citizen and 
that I can represent my country the way I want and the way people expect. 

Khannouchi also said that his training has gone well and he's ready to 
challenge the world's best. I think I'm pretty good, he said. I feel 
confident and excited about the new experience. I feel I'm ready to go. I 
want to make a statement - I hope I can get a gold medal for the U.S. in the 
World Championships, that will motivate the rest of the team.  

Other Americans competing in Friday's marathon include former U.S. record 
holder David Morris, 1999 U.S. World Championships member Eddy Hellebuyck, 
14th place finisher at the 2001 Boston Marathon Josh Cox, and 2001 Las Vegas 
Marathon winner Mike Dudley. 

In action on Saturday, two-time world outdoor champ John Godina, 2000 Olympic 
silver medalist Adam Nelson and 2001 U.S. 3rd-place finisher John Davis will 
compete in men's shot put qualifying in the morning, followed by the final 
later in the day. In the only other final on Saturday, 2000 Olympic Trials 
champion Tim Seaman will challenge the world's best in his specialty, the 20K 
race walk. 

Many of Team USA's top stars will compete in qualifying rounds on Saturday, 
including Maurice Greene, Tim Montgomery, Bernard Williams and Curtis Johnson 
in the men's 100m, and world record holder Stacy Dragila, Alicia Warlick, 
Mary Sauer and Tracy O'Hara will compete in women's pole vault qualifying.

Antonio Pettigrew, Leonard Byrd and Jerome Young will participate in opening 
round action in the men's 400 meters. Qualifying in the men's hammer throw 
will feature two-time U.S. champ Kevin McMahon. The first round of the 
women's 10,000 meters will also take place, featuring two-time U.S. champ 
Deena Drossin and Jen Rhines.

Two-time World Championships 1,500m silver medalist Regina Jacobs will join 
three-time Olympian Suzy Favor and Sarah Schwald in 1,500m qualifying, and 
2001 U.S. outdoor champ David Krummenacker will be joined by Derrick Peterson 
and Khadevis Robinson in the first round of the men's 800 meters.

The women's heptathlon competition begins Saturday, with the United States 
represented by two-time defending U.S. champion and 2000 Olympian DeDee 
Nathan and 1999 U.S. champ, 1999 World Championships team member and 2000 
Olympian Shelia Burrell.

LaMark Carter, Robert Howard and Walter Davis also will compete in men's 
triple jump qualifying.

# # #





Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results

2001-08-02 Thread Buck Jones

I found startlists for the marathon linked at the side of the event under
'status'.  Try here:

http://www.iaaf.org/WCH01/Results/Timetable/010803.html

They don't have the other start lists up yet.
Cheers,
Buck


-Original Message-
From: Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results


Yesterday, NETRACK posted--

Sorry to bother everyone. What's the best link for getting timely and
up-to-minute results from the World Championships? Is it the IAAF link, or
does the WC have their own link to results?

Cheers,
Larry

I haven't seen an answer to Larry's question, and I'm finding the IAAF
site, as usual, tortuous to navigate. I did get as far as a page headed
Edmonton Championships--Results, but it was blank. In most track website
organization, that would should startlists until results are available.

Has anyone found, anywhere, startlists for events on Saturday; like 48
hours away? If it's somewhere in the IAAF site, could you give the complete
URL for that particular page? It would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
Roger






t-and-f: The DQ scandal of Brisbane WMA

2001-08-02 Thread TrackCEO

Greetings, all

Before our memories of the 14th World Veterans Athletic Championships grow 
misty, we ought to have a clear-eyed review of what took place in the area of 
disqualifications. Brisbane had a ton of them -- at least 65 by my count -- 
most notably in the relays.

This comes from a review of results posted on the Web site at 
http://www.worldvac2001.com.au/tc_results.htm -- a site, BTW, that STILL is 
incomplete more than two weeks after the July 4-14 event. (As far as the site 
is concerned, the M85 100 and 200 never took place, even though Bert Morrow 
of California recounts his disappointing fourth-place finish in both and the 
races had many witnesses.)

In fact, National Masters News -- the official world publication for masters 
track -- apparently has gone to press with its WAVA Brisbane (now WMA) issue 
without results from more than a few events.  

DQs are part of the game, especially in the race walks. Considering the 
hundreds entered in the many age groups, male and female, the 20 walk DQs at 
Brisbane seems plausible.  Other events had their share of DQs, but they also 
seemed mainly minimal in terms of overall numbers. (The steeplechase 
accounted for three DQs, the hurdles -- short and long -- had six.)

(Side rant: Although Brisbane organizers claim to have had 6,000-plus 
participants, that figure is an utter fabrication -- based on a tourist arm's 
estimation of visitors to the area for the meet, which includes nonathlete 
friends and family. The real number of competitors -- and not just 
registered competitors but ones who actually showed up months after the 
entry deadline -- was most likely under 5,000, according to highly placed and 
knowledgeable sources.)

But something seems very wrong about the 400-meter dash and the relays.

Although I counted ZERO disqualifications in the 100s and 200s (a 
jaw-dropping fact in itself ),  the 400s saw 13 athletes DQ'd -- all but two 
of them male. 

In the M70 prelims Heat 2, the defending world champ from 1999 Gateshead -- 
Canada's Earl Fee -- was tossed. A witness to the Fee DQ says he was flagged 
for running on the line, but no supporting evidence was produced and appeals 
(throughout the meet) were pretty much summarily rejected (after individuals 
and teams posted $100 or $200 appeal fees). In the same 400 age group (Heat 
1) fellow Canadian Leslie Robson also was ejected. Robson was a finalist at 
the 1999 world vets meet.

But what really stands out are the relay DQs -- eight in the 4x1 and nine in 
the 4x4. By contrast, the 1999 Gateshead WAVA world meet had just five relay 
DQs (including one of a German 4x4 team that seemed bogus to many observers). 

Brisbane's relay DQs may have been exemplified by the experience of the M60 
4x1 team from the United States, which crossed the finish line in second.  

As anchorman Harold Tolson tells me, his team was immediately red-flagged 
when he started his sprint.  He took the baton properly in the international 
exchange zone, he tells me, but had been standing on the wrong side of the 
start line when he began his acceleration.  An official apparently was keen 
to nail offenders of a rule that few sprinters were aware of.  

What really sticks in Tolson's craw is the fact that at ANY time in the 
moments leading to the sanction, the official could have called out: Lane 8, 
move forward a step (or whatever). This is a common courtesy by professional 
officials at most meets. How often have you seen a sprint starter quietly 
remind: Lane 3, please move your fingers behind the line? 

The United States appears not to have been singled out. Just three USA relay 
teams were DQ'd (including a likely gold medal quartet in the M40 4x4 that 
featured  49.18 man Sal Allah, the M40 champion in the 400). And Aussies 
weren't immune either. One Aussie relay team (M50 4x1) was DQ'd. A total of 
17 Aussies were DQ'd in the meet overall. And not even the mucky-mucks were 
respected. The anchorman listed for South Africa's DQ'd M65 4x1 squad was 
none other than Monty Hacker,  WMA's general secretary (a member of the 
Executive Council)!

As athletes return home from Down Under and reports filter out about the 
meet, we may hear other horror stories.  But this one deserves attention, for 
starters. 

Contrary to the oft-stated goal of the Brisbane Organizing Committee that 
this would be an athlete-friendly meet, it seems to have been more  
designed to tap tourist dollars. I was told, for example, that the local 
newspaper, The Courier-Mail, refused to cover the meet in Sports or print 
results because Brisbane WAVA was a tourist event and not an athletic 
event. 

WMA had spent thousands of dollars and many hours sending inspectors to 
Brisbane to check on preparations. But in two key areas -- results 
dissemination and officials' training -- the LOC shows it perhaps was in over 
its head. 

How can we learn from this?

Here are the listed DQs from WMA Brisbane:

M50 -4X100 METRE RELAY- 53.61 

t-and-f: USATF Media Advisory: TIME CHANGE on Friday press conference

2001-08-02 Thread Usatfcom99

The time of USA Track  Field's Friday press conference at Commonwealth 
Stadium has been changed to 12:45 p.m. 

Two-time world outdoor champion and 2001 world indoor champion John Godina 
has been added to the press conference; other top Team USA athletes are 
expected as well.

Who: Team USA head coaches J.J. Clark and Orin Richburg; World Indoor 
champion shot putter John Godina; other Team USA athletes TBA
What: Team USA Press Conference
When: 12:45 p.m., Friday, August 3
Where: Commonwealth Stadium Interview Room
Why: Team USA preview of World Championships

For more information: Call the USATF Xerox Media Center, 780-821-4130.




Re: t-and-f: CBC camera perspectives

2001-08-02 Thread Roger Ruth

In response to my note about the overhead camera CBC will use at WC2001,
quoting Canadian Press,

 But the overhead camera is a relatively new concept, used only sparingly at
 the last world championships in Seville, Spain, and never attempted at the
 Olympics...

Kamal Jabbour wrote,

Wrong! IBM built the overhead camera system for the 1996 Atlanta Olympics.
Powered with a multiprocessor RS-6000 architecture, it followed the action
with minimal  bounce, using a critically damped open loop control system.
I have pictures of it!

Kamal.

As I recall, Kamal had his on-line video feed working from the 1994
Commonwealth Games, where the CBC overhead system was in use. Perhaps he
would comment on the similarities and differences in the IBM and CBC
systems and why they are so seldom used.

I wouldn't be able to imagine--let alone explain--the difference between
what I described as a gyro-balanced camera and what he called a
critically damped open loop control system. Far more to my level of
understanding was the emergency repair made by one of the Seiko technicians
to an on-field display board that wasn't working to his satisfaction. He
fiddled with it a bit, then turned his back and struck the frame with his
heel. Problem solved. My kind of repair.

Cheers





Re: FW: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids

2001-08-02 Thread Shawn Devereaux

I was told once that when an announcement is made that so-and-so athlete is
suspended for breaking unspecified team rules, this usually means a failed
drug test.

s.devereaux


Highfill, Floyd wrote:

 I'm sure Universities do try to cover up positive tests,
 but most of the positive results are known only to a few selected people in
 the athletic departments (usually only to trainers/medical personnel) and,
 by policy, are never made public, even when suspensions are handed out.

 Floyd Highfill




FW: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids

2001-08-02 Thread Highfill, Floyd

Adding to the points which have been brought up here -

The random drug testing referred to is only for anabolic steroids, diuretics
(and similar), and peptide hormones/analogs.  The NCAA does not test for
recreational drugs EXCEPT at their Championships.  Many Universities do
have their own drug testing programs which subject student-athletes to
testing for recreational drugs.  Positives in these instances are usually
handled with counseling.  Probably 90% of all track athletes go thru their
entire careers having never been selected for random NCAA testing and there
is certainly no EPO testing being done at the present time..

An athlete selected for random testing by the NCAA has only 24 hrs to
present themselves for sampling or face immediate suspension and loss of
eligibility.  They have even been known to take students out of class for
this sampling.  I'm sure Universities do try to cover up positive tests,
but most of the positive results are known only to a few selected people in
the athletic departments (usually only to trainers/medical personnel) and,
by policy, are never made public, even when suspensions are handed out.

Floyd Highfill

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Contopoulos [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:56 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids
 
 I was tested.  Notified the day before the test and then had to go in and 
 give a sample.  This was winter of 2000. I also know someone who was 
 busted for steroid use by the NCAA... so they do test with little notice
 
 AND find positive cases.  Often an athletics dept tries to cover up the 
 charge, however, so as to pretect their name.  That is why you don't hear 
 about it that often.  In the NCAA you get a one year ban, so I imagine a
 lot 
 of athletes use that as their redshirt year.
 
 M
 
 
 From: Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids
 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:11:38 -0400
 
  Division I NCAA track and field athletes are
 subject to year-round random testing for anabolic
 agents, diuretics, peptide hormones and analogues, and
 urine manipulators. 
 
 This is true ... they are SUBJECT to it ... but ask them how many times 
 they
 actually GET TESTED.
 
 
 The athletes that lived near me used to tell me they were going through
 withdrawal ... because they were due for drug testing in 10 days.  They
 had
 to quit smoking pot during that time.
 
 The frequency of testing and advance notice may vary from region to
 region
 and may have changed in the last ten years  but you can certainly get
 away with steroid use in NCAA athletics.
 
 
 
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Re: t-and-f: Greene unhappy at new start ruling

2001-08-02 Thread JimRTimes


In a message dated 8/1/01 10:47:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The IAAF and its technical committee yesterday decided that in races up
to 400 metres one false start will be allowed, but that any athlete
subsequently false starting will be disqualified immediately.

While I suppose this is an improvement on the current rule, it still means 
HS/college will have one set of rules, and opne runners another, a less than 
desirable situation, IMO.

Jim Gerweck
Running Times



RE: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids

2001-08-02 Thread Michael Contopoulos

I was tested.  Notified the day before the test and then had to go in and 
give a sample.  This was winter of 2000. I also know someone who was 
busted for steroid use by the NCAA... so they do test with little notice 
AND find positive cases.  Often an athletics dept tries to cover up the 
charge, however, so as to pretect their name.  That is why you don't hear 
about it that often.  In the NCAA you get a one year ban, so I imagine a lot 
of athletes use that as their redshirt year.

M


From: Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:11:38 -0400

 Division I NCAA track and field athletes are
subject to year-round random testing for anabolic
agents, diuretics, peptide hormones and analogues, and
urine manipulators. 

This is true ... they are SUBJECT to it ... but ask them how many times 
they
actually GET TESTED.


The athletes that lived near me used to tell me they were going through
withdrawal ... because they were due for drug testing in 10 days.  They had
to quit smoking pot during that time.

The frequency of testing and advance notice may vary from region to region
and may have changed in the last ten years  but you can certainly get
away with steroid use in NCAA athletics.



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t-and-f: Golf in Edmonton

2001-08-02 Thread Bettwy, Bob

I am planning on playing golf on many of the morning during the Worlds.  Can anyone 
suggest the best courses to play in Edmonton and/or is anyone interested in playing as 
well?

Please respond privately and sorry to bother the whole list.

Bob Bettwy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Director - Program Control
Washington Group
SRS Technologies
(703) 351-7266




Re: t-and-f: CBC camera perspectives

2001-08-02 Thread Dr Kamal Jabbour

On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Roger Ruth wrote:

 ... 
 But the overhead camera is a relatively new concept, used only sparingly at
 the last world championships in Seville, Spain, and never attempted at the
 Olympics...

Wrong! IBM built the overhead camera system for the 1996 Atlanta Olympics. 
Powered with a multiprocessor RS-6000 architecture, it followed the action
with minimal  bounce, using a critically damped open loop control system.
I have pictures of it!

Kamal.

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RE: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids

2001-08-02 Thread Mcewen, Brian T

 Division I NCAA track and field athletes are
subject to year-round random testing for anabolic
agents, diuretics, peptide hormones and analogues, and
urine manipulators. 

This is true ... they are SUBJECT to it ... but ask them how many times they
actually GET TESTED.


The athletes that lived near me used to tell me they were going through
withdrawal ... because they were due for drug testing in 10 days.  They had
to quit smoking pot during that time.

The frequency of testing and advance notice may vary from region to region
and may have changed in the last ten years  but you can certainly get
away with steroid use in NCAA athletics.