Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results
This week's SI says to check out the following websites for results and features: iaaf.org trackwire.com trackandfieldnews.com usatf.org A.C.
Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results
Look for Results and you find the startlists! Here is the Marathon-startlist: http://www.iaaf.org/WCH01/Results/data/M/MAR/Sf.html - Original Message - From: Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:59 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results Yesterday, NETRACK posted-- Sorry to bother everyone. What's the best link for getting timely and up-to-minute results from the World Championships? Is it the IAAF link, or does the WC have their own link to results? Cheers, Larry I haven't seen an answer to Larry's question, and I'm finding the IAAF site, as usual, tortuous to navigate. I did get as far as a page headed Edmonton Championships--Results, but it was blank. In most track website organization, that would should startlists until results are available. Has anyone found, anywhere, startlists for events on Saturday; like 48 hours away? If it's somewhere in the IAAF site, could you give the complete URL for that particular page? It would be much appreciated. Cheers, Roger
Re: t-and-f: CBC camera perspectives
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Roger Ruth wrote: ... Perhaps he would comment on the similarities and differences in the IBM and CBC systems and why they are so seldom used. I wouldn't be able to imagine--let alone explain--the difference between what I described as a gyro-balanced camera and what he called a critically damped open loop control system... I believe it is the same system. The camera is dangled over the stadium from pillars at the four corners. Four stepper motors release or pull each wire independently in small steps, positioning the camera anywhere in the 3-D space above the stadium. Three additional degrees of freedom allow rotating the camera, tilting it up or down, and zooming it. The software controls the entire system. Predetermined trajectories are programmed into the computers to move the camera swiftly from one place to another. For example: go to the pole vault pit, or follow lane 1 on the track. Kamal. DR KAMAL JABBOUR - Engineer, Educator, Runner, WriterO o 2-222 Center for Science and Technology /|\/ |\ Syracuse University, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 | | Phone 315-443-3000, Fax 315-443-2583 __/ \ \/ \ http://running.syr.edu/jabbour.html\ \
RE: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids
A few notes to add to this debate. I took a pharmacology class this spring and wrote a review type paper on the present state of what is known of EPO and some of its uses and misuses. If anyone wants to look at it or see some of the sources I found email me privately. Secondly I agree with Buck completely. EPO is dangerous. Carefully monitored it can be helpful. I believe the doses used in some of the elite athlete trials that have been done were 50 unit injections received daily. The enhancement on a cardiovascular test after 3 weeks of receiving injections was something on the order of 15% increase in cardiovascular run time on a treadmill (with the discontinuation of treatment if the Hematocrit level got above a certain %). If someone does the math on that its a pretty good sized improvement. BUT BUT BUT BUT, there are some very serious risks that one is taking by using EPO. First is that using it will actually CAUSE anemia if you don't take supplements (As Buck mentioned), and the viscosity of your blood can get so high with increase in RBC levels that you have a great strain on your heart. Is it something college athletes use? Probably not, is it available to one of these athletes? Maybe but that is unclear. If the athlete did obtain it there would be so many factors that must be monitored for it to be effective that it would take a few very well trained doctors to do it. Why do you think Lance Armstrong has an entourage? (Not saying he is doped, but heck he has a guy that his sole job is to set up Lances altitude tent!!!). Lastly but definitely not least, the kids that Brian said stopped smoking pot 10 days before a drug test either 1) All failed that drug test because it takes at LEAST 30 days for THC to go down to a low level to not be detected (by most standard tests)or 2) They wanted to sound cool and anti-authority about the test and actually were not dope smokers. Oh, and one final thing. A professor here at Duke (the one who taught this pharmacology class I took) has written a new and really good book about a variety of different drugs used in sports. It is called 'Pumped' and is by Cindy Kuhn. Jeremy Block Duke University PS -- Because of the way recombinant EPO (rhEPO) was made you can now test for it using markers I believe.
Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results
Yesterday, NETRACK posted-- Sorry to bother everyone. What's the best link for getting timely and up-to-minute results from the World Championships? Is it the IAAF link, or does the WC have their own link to results? Cheers, Larry I haven't seen an answer to Larry's question, and I'm finding the IAAF site, as usual, tortuous to navigate. I did get as far as a page headed Edmonton Championships--Results, but it was blank. In most track website organization, that would should startlists until results are available. Has anyone found, anywhere, startlists for events on Saturday; like 48 hours away? If it's somewhere in the IAAF site, could you give the complete URL for that particular page? It would be much appreciated. Cheers, Roger
Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results
The protocol for final entry confirmation has a rolling schedule, in which events are finalized two days prior to the first round, by noon today for Saturday's events and by 9:00 a.m. on succeeding days. Once the entries close for the day, I would assume some time is taken to confirm marks, etc. to make sure the requisite qualifying marks have been attained and the athletes are seeded properly for the first round, heats are drawn and checked to make sure nothing is amiss. It is likely the start lists will be available late that evening or early the next morning (there may be something in their instructions that specifies a time the start lists should be released). Mike Takaha - Original Message - From: Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:59 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results Yesterday, NETRACK posted-- Sorry to bother everyone. What's the best link for getting timely and up-to-minute results from the World Championships? Is it the IAAF link, or does the WC have their own link to results? Cheers, Larry I haven't seen an answer to Larry's question, and I'm finding the IAAF site, as usual, tortuous to navigate. I did get as far as a page headed Edmonton Championships--Results, but it was blank. In most track website organization, that would should startlists until results are available. Has anyone found, anywhere, startlists for events on Saturday; like 48 hours away? If it's somewhere in the IAAF site, could you give the complete URL for that particular page? It would be much appreciated. Cheers, Roger
t-and-f: National records before Edmonton
Just before the first event in Edmonton, look at the national records of 97 countries in the world in AthleRecords : http://aimeserre.multimania.com/index.html
Re: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids
In a message dated 8/2/01 5:11:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lastly but definitely not least, the kids that Brian said stopped smoking pot 10 days before a drug test either 1) All failed that drug test because it takes at LEAST 30 days for THC to go down to a low level to not be detected ( by most standard tests)or 2) They wanted to sound cool and anti-authority about the test and actually were not dope smokers. You can clear in a week. Particularly if you have low body fat, don't smoke chronically and you drink a ton of water. 30 days is the standard for daily users. Mike
t-and-f: Lewis facing heartache decision as illness strikes
The Electronic Telegraph Friday 3 August 2001 Tom Knight OLYMPIC champion Denise Lewis is facing World Championship heartache here as she was forced to pull out of training with a stomach complaint yesterday. Her chances of competing in the heptathlon were put at only 50-50 by her coach, Charles van Commenee. Lewis is one of Britain's best hopes at the Games after taking the world by storm to strike gold at last year's Olympics in Sydney. However, her Dutch coach appeared at a press conference in her absence yesterday and said: Denise has been suffering from a stomach problem since yesterday and at this point it is hard to say what will happen. She is ill and her chances of competing are 50-50. She will probably not be able to make a decision until Saturday morning. Denise has to feel good enough to compete and we shall see on the day, but right now she is vomiting and has a stomach ache. She has had problems with her stomach for years and some days are worse than others. She has seen the team doctors here and the best thing for her now is to simply stay in bed. Van Commenee said that although Lewis had suffered from similar problems in the past, he did not remember them coming so close to a major championship. A change of name could not prevent the world governing body running into the same old problems yesterday. Despite protests from their biggest members, the renamed International Association of Athletics Federations - they have finally dropped the word, 'Amateur' from their title - successfully steered their new rule on false starts through congress. By a vote of 81 to 74, the IAAF Congress decided that, as from Jan 1, 2003, in all races up to 400 metres, only one false start by a single athlete will be allowed. After that, any athlete guilty of a false start will be disqualified. The present rule states that every athlete is allowed one false start. Originally, the IAAF's ruling council considered having no false starts at all, the system used in swimming. The new rule is therefore an untried compromise. This most radical change in the rules seen for decades left delegates from Britain, the United States and Germany shaking their heads in disbelief and Europe's top meeting promoters accused the IAAF of not listening to the athletes. Svein Arne Hansen, who organises the Bislett Games in Oslo, said: Those guys have never organised a thing in their lives. They did not listen to what athletes have been telling them. David Moorcroft, the chief executive of UK Athletics, said: The bigger nations and meeting promoters asked for more time but clearly were not listened to. Athletes will just have to get used to it and we have to help them, whether we like it or not. Craig Masback, the chief executive of USA Track and Field, claimed the worst athletes had been handed an advantage. The new rule offers a bizarre incentive for the slowest athletes in the field to take a false start in order to hold the others back. The championships, which begin tonight with the opening ceremony and men's marathon, were hit by another doping controversy when Poland withdrew Marcin Krzywanski from the 100m and Rajmund Kolko from the javelin after both tested positive at their national trials. Eamonn Condon www.RunnersGoal.com
t-and-f: Emperor intent on producing stunning return
The Electronic Telegraph Friday 3 August 2001 Tom Knight HAILE GEBRSELASSIE'S status in Ethiopia was confirmed on his return from Sydney, when more than a million people lined the streets of Addis Ababa to welcome him home after his Olympic triumph in the 10,000 metres. After a career which already includes 15 world records, two Olympic gold medals and four world titles, it is hard to imagine how Gebrselassie's reputation as the greatest distance runner the world has seen could be enhanced. In Edmonton, this extraordinary little man with the toothy grin has the answer. In his first appearance on a track since his Olympics victory over Paul Tergat, Gebrselassie will attempt to capture a fifth consecutive world title. The world has missed him and no one but Gebrselassie could have the nerve and self-belief to make a seasonal debut at a major championship. There is no Tergat in Edmonton, but winning the 10,000m here still represents probably the biggest challenge of his career. To win a fifth title in my first race of the season would be wonderful, but it will not be easy, he said. The reason for his late start to the season lies in the damage his legs sustained through all his years of running. He has never been a fan of the hard, unforgiving tracks now favoured by the world's major stadiums, and in Sydney the punishment finally took its toll. Gebrselassie, 28, spent the winter recovering from surgery performed in Switzerland to cure the inflammation at the base of his Achilles tendon. His rehabilitation was slow but meticulous. He said: To be injured is bad but to rest is good. I can handle both. He was ready to race in the recent British Grand Prix at Crystal Palace but, ever the diplomat, Ethiopia's biggest superstar chose instead to comply with his federation's orders to stay at home with the national team before their departure for Canada. It simply meant more training and there is little doubt that Gebrselassie is ready to put in a world- beating performance. The curing of his Achilles problem could even mean he is in better shape than when he outsprinted Tergat in Stadium Australia. Gebrselassie added: To come into a competition like the World Championships, you have to be perfect. I have prepared very well but if someone is stronger than Gebrselassie, he can win. Sydney was supposed to have been his last 10,000m but here he is, back again. His marathon debut, postponed by the injury, will now come next spring. His manager, Jos Hermens, is in no doubt about Gebrselassie's stature, at home or abroad: He is the Emperor. Ethiopia is a country racked by Aids, famine and war and Gebrselassie is their one true success story. He travels the country, giving out and receiving respect wherever he goes. Eamonn Condon www.RunnersGoal.com
t-and-f: USATF Release: World Champs set to start Friday
Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track Field At the Xerox Media Center: (780) 821-4150 http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Thursday, August 2, 2001 Khannouchi, men's marathoners to kick off World Champs for Team USA EDMONTON, Canada - The 8th IAAF World Outdoor Track Field Championships begin Friday in Edmonton with Team USA in position to defend its status as the World's #1 Track Field Team. Olympic gold medalists Marion Jones, Maurice Greene, Stacy Dragila, Angelo Taylor, Nick Hysong, Allen Johnson, Gail Devers, Bernard Williams, Tim Montgomery, Antonio Pettigrew, Jerome Young, Jon Drummond, Chryste Gaines, Jearl Miles-Clark and Monique Hennagan are on the Team USA roster for Edmonton. More than 60 of the Team's athletes were 2000 Olympians. During the World Championships, a male and female U.S. athlete will be named the Xerox Athlete of the Day during each day of competition. On the final day of competition, Sunday, August 12, the overall Xerox Athletes of the Meet, male and female, will win a Xerox WorkCentre M940. The Xerox WorkCentre M940 includes a color flatbed printer, a copier, scanner and a PC fax. Xerox also is supporting the USATF Xerox Media Center at Commonwealth Stadium. The Championships begin Friday with the opening ceremonies and the men's marathon. World record holder Khalid Khannouchi will lead the five-man American team in his first competition representing the U.S. after receiving his American citizenship last year. A native of Morocco, Khannouchi set the world marathon record of 2:05.42 at the 1999 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. In his first marathon as an American citizen, Khannouchi set the U.S. record of 2:07.01 last year in Chicago. During a USATF teleconference earlier this week, Khannouchi expressed his enthusiasm about wearing the U.S. singlet for the first time in Edmonton. I'm excited about the new experience, he said. All the years we've been fighting and working so hard. It feels good that finally I'm a citizen and that I can represent my country the way I want and the way people expect. Khannouchi also said that his training has gone well and he's ready to challenge the world's best. I think I'm pretty good, he said. I feel confident and excited about the new experience. I feel I'm ready to go. I want to make a statement - I hope I can get a gold medal for the U.S. in the World Championships, that will motivate the rest of the team. Other Americans competing in Friday's marathon include former U.S. record holder David Morris, 1999 U.S. World Championships member Eddy Hellebuyck, 14th place finisher at the 2001 Boston Marathon Josh Cox, and 2001 Las Vegas Marathon winner Mike Dudley. In action on Saturday, two-time world outdoor champ John Godina, 2000 Olympic silver medalist Adam Nelson and 2001 U.S. 3rd-place finisher John Davis will compete in men's shot put qualifying in the morning, followed by the final later in the day. In the only other final on Saturday, 2000 Olympic Trials champion Tim Seaman will challenge the world's best in his specialty, the 20K race walk. Many of Team USA's top stars will compete in qualifying rounds on Saturday, including Maurice Greene, Tim Montgomery, Bernard Williams and Curtis Johnson in the men's 100m, and world record holder Stacy Dragila, Alicia Warlick, Mary Sauer and Tracy O'Hara will compete in women's pole vault qualifying. Antonio Pettigrew, Leonard Byrd and Jerome Young will participate in opening round action in the men's 400 meters. Qualifying in the men's hammer throw will feature two-time U.S. champ Kevin McMahon. The first round of the women's 10,000 meters will also take place, featuring two-time U.S. champ Deena Drossin and Jen Rhines. Two-time World Championships 1,500m silver medalist Regina Jacobs will join three-time Olympian Suzy Favor and Sarah Schwald in 1,500m qualifying, and 2001 U.S. outdoor champ David Krummenacker will be joined by Derrick Peterson and Khadevis Robinson in the first round of the men's 800 meters. The women's heptathlon competition begins Saturday, with the United States represented by two-time defending U.S. champion and 2000 Olympian DeDee Nathan and 1999 U.S. champ, 1999 World Championships team member and 2000 Olympian Shelia Burrell. LaMark Carter, Robert Howard and Walter Davis also will compete in men's triple jump qualifying. # # #
Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results
I found startlists for the marathon linked at the side of the event under 'status'. Try here: http://www.iaaf.org/WCH01/Results/Timetable/010803.html They don't have the other start lists up yet. Cheers, Buck -Original Message- From: Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:13 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results Yesterday, NETRACK posted-- Sorry to bother everyone. What's the best link for getting timely and up-to-minute results from the World Championships? Is it the IAAF link, or does the WC have their own link to results? Cheers, Larry I haven't seen an answer to Larry's question, and I'm finding the IAAF site, as usual, tortuous to navigate. I did get as far as a page headed Edmonton Championships--Results, but it was blank. In most track website organization, that would should startlists until results are available. Has anyone found, anywhere, startlists for events on Saturday; like 48 hours away? If it's somewhere in the IAAF site, could you give the complete URL for that particular page? It would be much appreciated. Cheers, Roger
t-and-f: The DQ scandal of Brisbane WMA
Greetings, all Before our memories of the 14th World Veterans Athletic Championships grow misty, we ought to have a clear-eyed review of what took place in the area of disqualifications. Brisbane had a ton of them -- at least 65 by my count -- most notably in the relays. This comes from a review of results posted on the Web site at http://www.worldvac2001.com.au/tc_results.htm -- a site, BTW, that STILL is incomplete more than two weeks after the July 4-14 event. (As far as the site is concerned, the M85 100 and 200 never took place, even though Bert Morrow of California recounts his disappointing fourth-place finish in both and the races had many witnesses.) In fact, National Masters News -- the official world publication for masters track -- apparently has gone to press with its WAVA Brisbane (now WMA) issue without results from more than a few events. DQs are part of the game, especially in the race walks. Considering the hundreds entered in the many age groups, male and female, the 20 walk DQs at Brisbane seems plausible. Other events had their share of DQs, but they also seemed mainly minimal in terms of overall numbers. (The steeplechase accounted for three DQs, the hurdles -- short and long -- had six.) (Side rant: Although Brisbane organizers claim to have had 6,000-plus participants, that figure is an utter fabrication -- based on a tourist arm's estimation of visitors to the area for the meet, which includes nonathlete friends and family. The real number of competitors -- and not just registered competitors but ones who actually showed up months after the entry deadline -- was most likely under 5,000, according to highly placed and knowledgeable sources.) But something seems very wrong about the 400-meter dash and the relays. Although I counted ZERO disqualifications in the 100s and 200s (a jaw-dropping fact in itself ), the 400s saw 13 athletes DQ'd -- all but two of them male. In the M70 prelims Heat 2, the defending world champ from 1999 Gateshead -- Canada's Earl Fee -- was tossed. A witness to the Fee DQ says he was flagged for running on the line, but no supporting evidence was produced and appeals (throughout the meet) were pretty much summarily rejected (after individuals and teams posted $100 or $200 appeal fees). In the same 400 age group (Heat 1) fellow Canadian Leslie Robson also was ejected. Robson was a finalist at the 1999 world vets meet. But what really stands out are the relay DQs -- eight in the 4x1 and nine in the 4x4. By contrast, the 1999 Gateshead WAVA world meet had just five relay DQs (including one of a German 4x4 team that seemed bogus to many observers). Brisbane's relay DQs may have been exemplified by the experience of the M60 4x1 team from the United States, which crossed the finish line in second. As anchorman Harold Tolson tells me, his team was immediately red-flagged when he started his sprint. He took the baton properly in the international exchange zone, he tells me, but had been standing on the wrong side of the start line when he began his acceleration. An official apparently was keen to nail offenders of a rule that few sprinters were aware of. What really sticks in Tolson's craw is the fact that at ANY time in the moments leading to the sanction, the official could have called out: Lane 8, move forward a step (or whatever). This is a common courtesy by professional officials at most meets. How often have you seen a sprint starter quietly remind: Lane 3, please move your fingers behind the line? The United States appears not to have been singled out. Just three USA relay teams were DQ'd (including a likely gold medal quartet in the M40 4x4 that featured 49.18 man Sal Allah, the M40 champion in the 400). And Aussies weren't immune either. One Aussie relay team (M50 4x1) was DQ'd. A total of 17 Aussies were DQ'd in the meet overall. And not even the mucky-mucks were respected. The anchorman listed for South Africa's DQ'd M65 4x1 squad was none other than Monty Hacker, WMA's general secretary (a member of the Executive Council)! As athletes return home from Down Under and reports filter out about the meet, we may hear other horror stories. But this one deserves attention, for starters. Contrary to the oft-stated goal of the Brisbane Organizing Committee that this would be an athlete-friendly meet, it seems to have been more designed to tap tourist dollars. I was told, for example, that the local newspaper, The Courier-Mail, refused to cover the meet in Sports or print results because Brisbane WAVA was a tourist event and not an athletic event. WMA had spent thousands of dollars and many hours sending inspectors to Brisbane to check on preparations. But in two key areas -- results dissemination and officials' training -- the LOC shows it perhaps was in over its head. How can we learn from this? Here are the listed DQs from WMA Brisbane: M50 -4X100 METRE RELAY- 53.61
t-and-f: USATF Media Advisory: TIME CHANGE on Friday press conference
The time of USA Track Field's Friday press conference at Commonwealth Stadium has been changed to 12:45 p.m. Two-time world outdoor champion and 2001 world indoor champion John Godina has been added to the press conference; other top Team USA athletes are expected as well. Who: Team USA head coaches J.J. Clark and Orin Richburg; World Indoor champion shot putter John Godina; other Team USA athletes TBA What: Team USA Press Conference When: 12:45 p.m., Friday, August 3 Where: Commonwealth Stadium Interview Room Why: Team USA preview of World Championships For more information: Call the USATF Xerox Media Center, 780-821-4130.
Re: t-and-f: CBC camera perspectives
In response to my note about the overhead camera CBC will use at WC2001, quoting Canadian Press, But the overhead camera is a relatively new concept, used only sparingly at the last world championships in Seville, Spain, and never attempted at the Olympics... Kamal Jabbour wrote, Wrong! IBM built the overhead camera system for the 1996 Atlanta Olympics. Powered with a multiprocessor RS-6000 architecture, it followed the action with minimal bounce, using a critically damped open loop control system. I have pictures of it! Kamal. As I recall, Kamal had his on-line video feed working from the 1994 Commonwealth Games, where the CBC overhead system was in use. Perhaps he would comment on the similarities and differences in the IBM and CBC systems and why they are so seldom used. I wouldn't be able to imagine--let alone explain--the difference between what I described as a gyro-balanced camera and what he called a critically damped open loop control system. Far more to my level of understanding was the emergency repair made by one of the Seiko technicians to an on-field display board that wasn't working to his satisfaction. He fiddled with it a bit, then turned his back and struck the frame with his heel. Problem solved. My kind of repair. Cheers
Re: FW: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids
I was told once that when an announcement is made that so-and-so athlete is suspended for breaking unspecified team rules, this usually means a failed drug test. s.devereaux Highfill, Floyd wrote: I'm sure Universities do try to cover up positive tests, but most of the positive results are known only to a few selected people in the athletic departments (usually only to trainers/medical personnel) and, by policy, are never made public, even when suspensions are handed out. Floyd Highfill
FW: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids
Adding to the points which have been brought up here - The random drug testing referred to is only for anabolic steroids, diuretics (and similar), and peptide hormones/analogs. The NCAA does not test for recreational drugs EXCEPT at their Championships. Many Universities do have their own drug testing programs which subject student-athletes to testing for recreational drugs. Positives in these instances are usually handled with counseling. Probably 90% of all track athletes go thru their entire careers having never been selected for random NCAA testing and there is certainly no EPO testing being done at the present time.. An athlete selected for random testing by the NCAA has only 24 hrs to present themselves for sampling or face immediate suspension and loss of eligibility. They have even been known to take students out of class for this sampling. I'm sure Universities do try to cover up positive tests, but most of the positive results are known only to a few selected people in the athletic departments (usually only to trainers/medical personnel) and, by policy, are never made public, even when suspensions are handed out. Floyd Highfill -Original Message- From: Michael Contopoulos [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids I was tested. Notified the day before the test and then had to go in and give a sample. This was winter of 2000. I also know someone who was busted for steroid use by the NCAA... so they do test with little notice AND find positive cases. Often an athletics dept tries to cover up the charge, however, so as to pretect their name. That is why you don't hear about it that often. In the NCAA you get a one year ban, so I imagine a lot of athletes use that as their redshirt year. M From: Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:11:38 -0400 Division I NCAA track and field athletes are subject to year-round random testing for anabolic agents, diuretics, peptide hormones and analogues, and urine manipulators. This is true ... they are SUBJECT to it ... but ask them how many times they actually GET TESTED. The athletes that lived near me used to tell me they were going through withdrawal ... because they were due for drug testing in 10 days. They had to quit smoking pot during that time. The frequency of testing and advance notice may vary from region to region and may have changed in the last ten years but you can certainly get away with steroid use in NCAA athletics. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: t-and-f: Greene unhappy at new start ruling
In a message dated 8/1/01 10:47:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The IAAF and its technical committee yesterday decided that in races up to 400 metres one false start will be allowed, but that any athlete subsequently false starting will be disqualified immediately. While I suppose this is an improvement on the current rule, it still means HS/college will have one set of rules, and opne runners another, a less than desirable situation, IMO. Jim Gerweck Running Times
RE: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids
I was tested. Notified the day before the test and then had to go in and give a sample. This was winter of 2000. I also know someone who was busted for steroid use by the NCAA... so they do test with little notice AND find positive cases. Often an athletics dept tries to cover up the charge, however, so as to pretect their name. That is why you don't hear about it that often. In the NCAA you get a one year ban, so I imagine a lot of athletes use that as their redshirt year. M From: Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:11:38 -0400 Division I NCAA track and field athletes are subject to year-round random testing for anabolic agents, diuretics, peptide hormones and analogues, and urine manipulators. This is true ... they are SUBJECT to it ... but ask them how many times they actually GET TESTED. The athletes that lived near me used to tell me they were going through withdrawal ... because they were due for drug testing in 10 days. They had to quit smoking pot during that time. The frequency of testing and advance notice may vary from region to region and may have changed in the last ten years but you can certainly get away with steroid use in NCAA athletics. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
t-and-f: Golf in Edmonton
I am planning on playing golf on many of the morning during the Worlds. Can anyone suggest the best courses to play in Edmonton and/or is anyone interested in playing as well? Please respond privately and sorry to bother the whole list. Bob Bettwy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Director - Program Control Washington Group SRS Technologies (703) 351-7266
Re: t-and-f: CBC camera perspectives
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Roger Ruth wrote: ... But the overhead camera is a relatively new concept, used only sparingly at the last world championships in Seville, Spain, and never attempted at the Olympics... Wrong! IBM built the overhead camera system for the 1996 Atlanta Olympics. Powered with a multiprocessor RS-6000 architecture, it followed the action with minimal bounce, using a critically damped open loop control system. I have pictures of it! Kamal. DR KAMAL JABBOUR - Engineer, Educator, Runner, WriterO o 2-222 Center for Science and Technology /|\/ |\ Syracuse University, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 | | Phone 315-443-3000, Fax 315-443-2583 __/ \ \/ \ http://running.syr.edu/jabbour.html\ \
RE: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids
Division I NCAA track and field athletes are subject to year-round random testing for anabolic agents, diuretics, peptide hormones and analogues, and urine manipulators. This is true ... they are SUBJECT to it ... but ask them how many times they actually GET TESTED. The athletes that lived near me used to tell me they were going through withdrawal ... because they were due for drug testing in 10 days. They had to quit smoking pot during that time. The frequency of testing and advance notice may vary from region to region and may have changed in the last ten years but you can certainly get away with steroid use in NCAA athletics.