t-and-f: Fwd: August 13 - Media Release - Edmonton 2001 World Championships in Athletics

2001-08-13 Thread Conning

 



August 13, 2001
MEDIA RELEASE

It's a wrap!
Hosting the world proves to be extraordinary experience

Edmonton, AB - The Edmonton 2001 World Championships in Athletics has 
concluded, with more than 400,000 in attendance at an action-packed 10 days 
of exciting competition.

"Our final, total attendance for the past 10 days was 400,886 and we're 
extremely pleased with the daily average attendance of 40,089 at the 
Stadium. We went from just slightly under 29,000 on Saturday, Aug. 4 to a 
high of 54,920 on Day 10, the Closing Ceremony," said Chairman of the 
Board, Jack Agrios.

"I'm also very happy to announce that not only did we surpass our budget 
target of $12.5 million in ticket revenue, we believe we have set the stage 
for future Championships to be held on this continent," Agrios noted. 
"We've also set the foundation for the future development of track and 
field in Canada through the Run, Jump and Throw Education Program."

The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC), the Canadian broadcast 
Rightsholder, says the viewing audience was also strong throughout the 10 
days. During prime time in the early evening, an average of 588,000 
households was glued to their sets watching the action from Commonwealth 
Stadium. Still thousands upon thousands more lined the streets of Edmonton 
to take in the two marathons and the race-walk events.

Kinsmen Park was also the site of large crowds who took in the free, 
nightly entertainment for eight nights at The Festival of The World's?. In 
total, approximately 220,000 people attended the concerts, for an average 
of 27,500 per evening.

And, The World's? Plaza located in Churchill Square in downtown Edmonton 
saw more than 205,000 for nine days of entertainment and hands-on 
activities. Average daily attendance for the nine days at the Plaza was 
25,625.

"It took a great deal of work to make sure everything was in place before 
the Championships began 10 days ago," said Jim Hole, Chair, Fit Out, 
Edmonton 2001 World Championships in Athletics. "Work got underway last 
night to turn Commonwealth Stadium back over to the City of Edmonton to 
ensure its readiness for this Friday night's Edmonton Eskimos home game."

Decommissioning includes getting the field at Commonwealth Stadium 
converted back into a football field, taking out the areas at the south end 
that were used for medal presentations, photography areas and the media 
mixed zone, as well as replacing the press tribune areas with spectator 
seats.

Plans are also in the works to turn over the lumber that was used for many 
of the temporary structures that were utilized during The World's? to 
Habitat For Humanity in Edmonton. "The amount of wood that will be given to 
this outstanding organization will assist them in building more than three, 
one-thousand square foot homes," emphasized Hole. An auction sale to 
dispose of the Championships' assets, including the banners, will be set in 
the near future.

Equipment such as discuses, shot puts, javelins, high jump and pole vault 
mats will be turned over to Athletics Alberta for use by young athletes in 
training right across the province.

This is the first time the IAAF World Championships in Athletics have been 
held in North America. There were 200 competing federations, with an 
additional six involved in Congress, for a total of 206 federations 
participating at these Championships. As of August 3, 2001, 1766 athletes 
and 1413 officials came to Edmonton for The World's?.  1643 broadcast 
media, from 86 companies, and 1035 print and photographers were accredited 
to cover The World's?.

Edmonton 2001 World Championships in Athletics would like to acknowledge 
the following partners: IAAF Partners TDK, Adidas, Coca-Cola, EPSON, SEIKO, 
Eurovision and TBS.
Government Partners: Government of Canada, Government of Alberta and the 
City of Edmonton; Sport Partners: Athletics Canada and Athletics Alberta; 
National Partners: TELUS, Royal Bank Financial Group, Labatt, EPCOR, IKON 
Office Solutions, Sony of Canada Ltd. and the General Motors Dealers of 
Edmonton. For further information, visit the Edmonton 2001 Web site at 
www.2001.edmonton.com.

For more information:
Randy Kilburn APR   
Media Relations, Edmonton 2001 World Championships in Athletics 
Telephone: (780) 821-2704
Cellular: (780) 919-4253
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: t-and-f: Post Edmonton thoughts

2001-08-13 Thread William H. Allen

Absolutely!
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: Post Edmonton thoughts


>
> In a message dated 8/13/01 5:05:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >Was a hard meet to get up for for some reason .. Didn't seem to have the
> usual >electricity associated with the Worlds
>
> I think the WCs have lost luster ever since the IAAF went for the money
and
> doubled the frequency of the meet. The post-Olympic year WC seems to be
> particularly hard hit, whereas at least the pre-Olympic meet has the
> anticipation of the impending Games to heighten the excitement.
>
> Sorry, but I think switching from quad- to biennial WCs was one of Primo's
> worse decisions (although I'm sure everyone's the richer for it, so I
doubt
> we'll see a return to the old schedule)
>
> Jim Gerweck
> Running Times




Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-13 Thread Jon Entine


Again, WHY THIS OBSESSION WITH nationality. It's absurd, especially in the
light of the silly barbs thrown my way.

But as for your latest barb, you are flat out wrong

I did discuss this numerous times, and most recently in my post a while back
about "why Brits" will are doing so lousy. The FACT is...and you can check
the lists of top times and top runners..is that you and others have
swallowed a MYTH that there were a lot of runners of "US, UK and Northern
European stock" that were setting the world on fire years ago. There were a
few great races by a handful of great runners such as Cram and Coe competing
in a field in which most of the rest of the world did not compete,
particularly runners from Africa, most of Asia, and South America.

Now that the field is more level, the best talent comes to the top. Again,
check the lists of top times and runners... Those so-called "great" times of
years ago pale in comparison RELATIVE to the population numbers AND overall.
In the 800 metres, for instance, 92 of the top 100 times are held by those
of mostly African ancestry. Was Coe a great runner. Of course. And we will
always have great runners. But he was no where near the consistent level of
a Kipketer or Cruz.

And as for why runners of "US, UK and Northern European stock" are not doing
as well as years ago, there are probably a number of explanations for it.
One of the most compelling is that runners of "US, UK and Northern European
stock"now have to compete in a world that is not unfairly skewed to their
benefit. The playing field is more level (although Africans still have far
fewer opportunities...wait until the field gets even MORE level!!!). Few
runners want to put in the grueling effort necessary to possibly achieve
elite status when they more or less know that considering the current
competition, they are likely to fall short of their goals. In other words,
just as whites have left pro basketball in droves, blacks avoid weight
lifting, and American, British and Canadian Blacks avoid distance running,
whites are RATIONALLY turning away from distance running in droves to pursue
other things (including sports) in which the effort they will have to expend
is likely to be rewarded.

That is a rational response by MOST "US, UK and Northern European stock" but
certainly not all, since there is a lot of human variation. Moreover, the
clear advantage of blacks of West African ancestry in the sprints is far
more impressive than disparities in distance running. The body
type/physiological advantages of certain populations in distance running is
quite small, meaning there will likely always be competitive whites, Asians,
etc. and even an occasional Coe and Cram. But don't hold your breath if you
think that the "old days' will return. It just can't happen.


On 8/13/01 4:12 PM, "Rich Harrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jon,
> 
> You have consistently failed to acknowledge why athletes from the US, UK and
> and Northern European stock are running more slowly than they did in the
> past. If they were running at the level of Cram, Coe, etc., perhaps they
> would be more competitive.
> 
> Rich Harrington
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Entine
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 2:46 PM
> To: Track and Field List
> Subject: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running
> 
> 
> Thought this would provoke the usual outrage. If anyone wants to print this
> unpublished article, or reproduce it on a website, please send me a note. I
> will be most obliging.
> 
> **
> 
> 9 August 2001
> 
> The End of the British Empire: Why a Brit (Black or White) Will Never Again
> Hold a Distance Running Record
> 
> By Jon Entine
> 
> When the gun goes off for the men¹s 1500 metre final at Sunday¹s World
> Championships in Edmonton, it might just as well signal the end of an era.
> The age of great British middle distance runners is gone forever. Once the
> world¹s dominant power, with a bloodline of Sebastian Coe, Steve Ovett,
> Steve Cram, and Peter Elliott that regularly left competitors in the dust,
> the British hopefuls are today mere also-rans in a field dominated by North
> and East Africans.
> 
> The collapse of the once mighty British Empire is actually part of a more
> sweeping trend. Where Brits, Aussies and others of Northern European stock
> used to dominate distance running, former greats such as Steve Cram and
> Sebastian Coe now indulge in British bashing. ³So where is the problem?²
> wrote Coe last week in the Telegraph. . ³The answer, I rather fancy, as
> Shakespeare said, Œlies not in the stars but in our hands¹ ­ run faster.²
> Coe went on to exhort aspiring Brits to train with the ³brutal² commitment
> of days gone by ­ ³the mental and physical intensity of what was commonplace
> 20 years ago,² he added modestly.
> 
> Here¹s a wake-up call: you might as well look to the stars, because distance
> runners from Britain, northern Europe 

Re: t-and-f: Post Edmonton thoughts

2001-08-13 Thread JimRTimes


In a message dated 8/13/01 5:05:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Was a hard meet to get up for for some reason .. Didn't seem to have the 
usual >electricity associated with the Worlds

I think the WCs have lost luster ever since the IAAF went for the money and 
doubled the frequency of the meet. The post-Olympic year WC seems to be 
particularly hard hit, whereas at least the pre-Olympic meet has the 
anticipation of the impending Games to heighten the excitement.

Sorry, but I think switching from quad- to biennial WCs was one of Primo's 
worse decisions (although I'm sure everyone's the richer for it, so I doubt 
we'll see a return to the old schedule)

Jim Gerweck
Running Times



t-and-f: Track and Field, TV Has a Problem With You

2001-08-13 Thread Louis LeBlanc

This pretty much sums it up!

http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-65765aug13.column?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dpe%2Dsports

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Re: t-and-f: Post Edmonton thoughts

2001-08-13 Thread koala

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:55:29 -0700, Conway Hill wrote:


>On to Zurich 


Ah yes, Zurich...the Swiss stud that 38-year-old Regina
Jacobs has been "saving herself" for...:-)

By the way, T&FN reports that El Guerrouj is gonna race
a 5K at Zurich this Friday...
...what are the odds for a sub-13 debut?


RT



t-and-f: Post Edmonton thoughts

2001-08-13 Thread Conway

Some of my thoughts following Edmonton:

Men's 100
Greene is the best ever in the event .. Times, averages, consistency,
competitiveness he has it all .. The question now is whether Montgomery is
for real or is he the Andre Cason of 2001 ?? If he is for real he Greene and
Williams could form the greatest trio in history ..

Men's relays
While the rest of the world may be catching up in individual events, the US
is still too deep for everyone else ...

Women's relays
Ditto on the women's 4x1 - too much foot speed for the rest of the world ..
And the women's 4x4 showed much heart but more importantly the most class of
the meet as they gave the most gracious losing interview I have ever seen ..

Men's horizontal jumps
Thank God for old men Pedroso and Edwards .. When they leave mediocrity will
reign ...

Women's 100/200
Jones appears flat all season .. Need for coaching change ?? OR has she
peaked ?? 2 more weeks and Miller may have given her another defeat at 200
!?!

Women's Pole Vault
IS FOR REAL !!! Great job by the women vaulters ..

Women's 400
Perhaps Grit Breuer is past her prime as well .. Should have dominated this
group but instead failed to medal .. Katharine Merry the future of the event
?? Should Jones run here ???

Men's 200/400
No Greene, no Johnson, no Washington, no Harrisons NO LUCK !! Should be just
a blip on the map for the US as injuries decimated here ..

Men's and Women's 800
One word for the US .. HELP 

Men's Middle Distances
Here's hoping Webb and Ritzenhieim and Hall mature quickly !!

Women's 100H
Model for the US as the old and the new blended perfectly and there will
apparently be no drop off in production as we transition when Gail decides
to retire ..

The Worlds
Was a hard meet to get up for for some reason .. The first couple of days
were very exciting as the 100 men burned up the track .. But things cooled
off and seemed to stay that way .. Didn't seem to have the usual electricity
associated with the Worlds .. Was nice however to see TV coverage that
featured competition over fluff !!!

On to Zurich 

Conway Hill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





t-and-f: WARNING-BEER MILE RESULTS DISCUSSED

2001-08-13 Thread Martin J. Dixon

Please delete now if this offends your sensibilities. Courtesy of Ian
Fallas.
Regards,


Martin



Greetings,

These results have not shown up on the IAAF website yet and they probably
never will. All of this is thanks to BeerMile-organizer extraordinaire, Matt
Norminton. He had help from John & timers Taniya, Kylie, & Allison:

---
Women's Results

August 11, 2001 10:30pm

Confederation Park, Edmonton AB


1.  Seanna Robinson6:52
2.  Krista Beadows-English 8:36
3.  Darcie Montgomery  8:51
4.  Sue Pribaz11:10
5.  Elisha Gordey 11:48
6.  Jodi Lambent  15:08
7.  Jen Alexander 22:54
8.  Diana Gruber  22:53

* All women drank 4 beers



WC Beer Mile

Men's Results

August 11, 2001 10:30pm

Confederation Park, Edmonton AB



1.  Scott Jensen CAL 6:27
2.  Peter Cardle  BC 6:41
3.  Ian Fallas   NOR 6:43
4.  Mark BombaBC 7:00
5.  Todd McKenzie PQ 7:02
6.  Lanny Mann   CAL 7:22
7.  Eric LamghjelmBC 7:55
8.  Jason Lewis  CAL 8:12
9.  Hugh McKenzie8:41
10.  Aiden Hawnt EDM 8:42
11.  Sean Forbes EDM 8:43
12.  Daniel Mckay SK 8:48
13.  James Davidson   BC 8:53
14.  John White  GBR 9:04
15.  Craig Constantino   CAL 9:08
16.  Bill DonahueEDM 9:11
17.  Kevin Beatty ON 9:16
18.  Dave Harder  SK 9:17
19.  Brendan Connely  BC 9:19
20.  Shawn Brady  ON 9:24
21.  Jon McGavock PQ 9:27
22.  Darren Burrows  CAL 9:32
23.  Matt Brown   BC 9:39
24.  Lance White CAL 9:41
25.  Kip SigsworthON 9:50
26.  Kyle Marcotte   EDM10:56
27.  Steven Haggart  CAL11:09
28.  Howard HerningsonSK11:13
29.  Andrew Hakes   11:53
30.  Jeff Gonder CAL11:54
31.  Neil Chomos  BC12:10
32.  Jamie WilsonEDM12:21
33.  Allan Pribaz ON12:30
34.  Steve McIntyre SrSK12:50
35.  Craig Williams  CAL13:27
36.  Christopher Drozda  CAL14:04
37.  Steve McIntyre JrSK14:07
38.  Matt Wiens  CAL14:18
39.  Sean Surerus BC14:36
40.  Steve Shigeishi CAL14:44
41.  Gary Pluim  CAL15:31
42.  Ian Watts   CAL15:38
43.  Nathan Kendrick CAL15:45
44.  Rick MilliganAB16:03
45.  James Aldridge  JPN16:11
46.  Kevin Olsen EDM16:25
47.  John CassellCAL19:58
48.  Jason Lindsay   CAL21:44
49.  Mateo Ayala BUR24:10
50.  Daniel OuimetPQ24:25
51.  Sid Kwallel24:41
52.  Malcolm BalkPQ/GBR 25:53


Team Results

1.  Calgary  30pts (1,6,8,15)

2.  BC38pts (2,4,13,19)

3.  Edmonton63pts (10,11,16,26)

4.  Sask  92pts (12,18,28,34)
   ---

I would like to add a correction to the team results:

While many of us attempted to "internationalize" the results by competing
for countries of residence, dual-citizenship, or (in my case) birth, I think
my result ought to count for Calgary, particularly as Norway did not have a
complete team. Also, Eric Langhjelm was not counted for BC even though I'm
pretty sure that's where he's from. With these revisions, the team standings
look like this:

Calgary  18pts (1-3-6-8)
BC   26pts (2-4-7-13)
Edmonton 63pts (10-11-16-26)
Saskatchewan 92pts (12-18-28-34)
Ontario  95pts (17-20-25-33)
Quebec  128pts (5-21-50-52)

*If we count Seanna Robinson & Sue Pribaz as men, Ontario finishes with 62
points.

Anyway, with a total of 60 finishers, this is a record for participation in
a single race. The 

t-and-f: pre-empting and several thoughts

2001-08-13 Thread Phil Weishaar

Since I had already watch everything live off of the big dish satelite in
the afternoon  including around 40 javelin throws and 40 women's high jump
attempts and at least an hour of marathon and one of the best announcer
discussions I have ever heard about Vergerova's situation I didn't bother to
watch. 
 I suppose the only thing I missed would have been hearing the American
version of how Suzanne Reid screwed up.
  Here is wishing all you guys could have seen what several of us around the
country were able to see over the last 10 days. 


Phil Weishaar
Chapman Kansas

PS 1.  How does Amy Acuff get Performer of the day?  she the only one?

PS 2.   How does Jan Zelezny'a arm stay attached to his shoulder?  His arm
speed during one of his javelin throw's  might be the single most impressive
physical feat I saw.  

PS 3.   Is this the most countries ever to win at least one medal during the
championships?  43 right?  Truly a World Championship.




Re: t-and-f: Pre-empting

2001-08-13 Thread DJCRibeye

Why am I writing this?   I don't know, I am just as bored now as I was yesterday, 
But

I was just impressed that a guy I knew from my High School days, a three-sport star 
from Watertown, CT and former Detroit Tiger, NY Met, Philadelphia Phillie, Boston Red 
Sox, and most recently this year, Atlanta Brave, was doing the color commentary from 
Indianapolis on the Minnesota vs Iowa Little League WS Regional Championship.. I 
too wonder if ESPN2 got better ratings on the Little League than the track.  And could 
they have gotten the same ratings if they tape-delayed the baseball? Then again many 
of you would have missed the ending to the other game.

Dave Cohen


<
Reply-To: "Chapman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:39:37 -0500

>
>What are the chances that the World Series will pre-empted by a broadcast of
>a Gulf States regional junior olympic track meet?
>
>That's what happened here (in reverse) in the Central time zone - waiting
>40min past the scheduled start time of the WC broadcast for the final
>innings of a Little League World Series qualifier.  Really solidified my
>understanding of the sports importance food chain.
>
>The only salvo was that the game did go extra innings.  Louisiana brought in
>their stud pitcher to close with bases loaded & 1 out in the bottom of the
>inning and the kid was throwing some serious BB's.  I may have found a
>future javelin recruit in 5 years.  Plus, some of these kids handled the
>pressure better than our pros on the track.  Nary a bobble between their
>glove hand and their throwing hand 
>;-o
>
>RC>>




t-and-f: Most 3200/2M ever under 9:00?

2001-08-13 Thread Mcewen, Brian T

What is the most sub-9:00 2-miles/ 3200m races by a HS boy during his HS
career?

A friend asked me how many Ritz racked up and whether he had the most?

I knew he had quite a few (indoors and out) ... but others must have run
quite a few also.

/Brian McEwen




t-and-f: Selected results from Germany

2001-08-13 Thread Winfried Kramer

Back from Edmonton,  I can present a late amendment from 
Germany:

Buehl, 27 July
HJ:  Kreissig 2.31. Braiko  RUS  2.29, G. + N. Ciotti ITA  2.27



Winfried Kramer
Kohlrodweg 12
66539  Neunkirchen/Germany

Association of Track & Field Statisticians
Editor of NATIONAL ATHLETICS RECORDS
www.saar.de/~kramer



Re: t-and-f: Pre-empting

2001-08-13 Thread Ed & Dana Parrot

> What are the chances that the World Series will pre-empted by a broadcast
of
> a Gulf States regional junior olympic track meet?

I was thinking the same thing, but in all fairness, the track meet was taped
while the baseball game was live, and they did show the full hour of track
afterwards, pre-empting other things.  Even as a track fan, I don't think I
would have made a different decision from a programming standpoint.

Anyone have any idea what the ratings were for the baseball game compared to
the track meet, especially the first hour of the baseball game, since by
10PM there were plenty of track fans watching baseball?

- Ed Parrot




Re: t-and-f: Pre-empting

2001-08-13 Thread Jimmie Manning

It was a great ending.  I was glued to the television.  What a lead-in to the World 
Championships.  WOW!
-- Original Message --
From: "Chapman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Chapman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:39:37 -0500

>
>What are the chances that the World Series will pre-empted by a broadcast of
>a Gulf States regional junior olympic track meet?
>
>That's what happened here (in reverse) in the Central time zone - waiting
>40min past the scheduled start time of the WC broadcast for the final
>innings of a Little League World Series qualifier.  Really solidified my
>understanding of the sports importance food chain.
>
>The only salvo was that the game did go extra innings.  Louisiana brought in
>their stud pitcher to close with bases loaded & 1 out in the bottom of the
>inning and the kid was throwing some serious BB's.  I may have found a
>future javelin recruit in 5 years.  Plus, some of these kids handled the
>pressure better than our pros on the track.  Nary a bobble between their
>glove hand and their throwing hand 
>;-o
>
>RC
>



t-and-f: LA Times column: Track & Field, TV Has a Problem With You"

2001-08-13 Thread Seb Geb Meb Webb

Excellent column by Mike Penner:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/columnists/la-65765aug13.column?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dsports%2Dcolumnists

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RE: t-and-f: Pre-empting

2001-08-13 Thread John Dye

In Baltimore, we learned Saturday how big lacrosse is.  A lacrosse game
bumped the Saturday afternoon telecast from Edmonton on the local ABC
outlet.

John Dye   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DyeStat - www.dyestat.com
Internet home of high school track & field & cc


> >-Original Message-
> >
> >What are the chances that the World Series will pre-empted by a
> >broadcast of
> >a Gulf States regional junior olympic track meet?





t-and-f: Pre-empting

2001-08-13 Thread Chapman, Robert


What are the chances that the World Series will pre-empted by a broadcast of
a Gulf States regional junior olympic track meet?

That's what happened here (in reverse) in the Central time zone - waiting
40min past the scheduled start time of the WC broadcast for the final
innings of a Little League World Series qualifier.  Really solidified my
understanding of the sports importance food chain.

The only salvo was that the game did go extra innings.  Louisiana brought in
their stud pitcher to close with bases loaded & 1 out in the bottom of the
inning and the kid was throwing some serious BB's.  I may have found a
future javelin recruit in 5 years.  Plus, some of these kids handled the
pressure better than our pros on the track.  Nary a bobble between their
glove hand and their throwing hand 
;-o

RC



t-and-f: U.S. appeal successful

2001-08-13 Thread P. N. Heidenstrom

On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:13:57 -0400
"malmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  


But to the point:

1) There is no "steps" rule.
2) Where there is a material advantage gained (stepping inside on the
turn) there will be a DQ
3) Where there is no material advantage gained (stepping inside/outside
on the straight or outside on the turn) AND no other competitor is
obstructed there WILL NOT be DQ.

Simple, and easy for coaches and fans alike to remember, isn't it? No
amended or emended sub rules, subparagraphs, subscripts, superscripts or
other annotations anywhere to confuse.

Comment:

Simple, but unfortunately wrong.

The word "outside" can have many meanings, including
"not in". The grammar and logic of IAAF rule 163.3
and its involved ancestry show that here "outside"
does not imply movement towards the outside of the
track, but simply "not in"; that is, the opposite of
the earlier word, "within". Replace "outside" with
"out of" and the true meaning of this rule will be
clear. In brief, if a competitor has run OUT OF his
lane, he shall be disqualified, irrespective of
whether there has been material advantage, but with
the exceptions in rule 163.4.

In Edmonton as in the past, the IAAF have evidently
found their own rule too draconian and set it aside.
Under essentially today's rule, England's Terry
Higgins was disqualified in the early rounds of the
1950 Empire Games, after which the late Harold Abrahams
declared he would have the rule changed to include
material advantage; it was, but it has since been
changed back.
  




t-and-f: ANOTHER 11th!

2001-08-13 Thread JimRTimes


In a message dated 8/12/01 12:53:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Seems like Goucher DID finish 11th after all. The curse strikes back!
>Oleg.

And McMullen in the 1500. I think I am going out and buy some PowerBall 
tickets with lots of elevens in the numbers (and the jackpot is $110 million 
- eleven $10 millions!)

Jim Gerweck
Running Times



t-and-f: Needs new address for Tom Jordan

2001-08-13 Thread TrackCEO

Y ask:

I'm trying to reach Tom Jordan in Eugene, but his e-mail addresses listed at 
wava.org and preclassic.com result in bounced messages. Can anyone help?

Ken Stone
http://www.masterstrack.com