Re: t-and-f: What's up with these officials???
At 09:37 PM 12/31/01 -0500, you wrote: Dave Johnson wrote: At 5:01 PM -0500 31.12.2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Listers, I was just reading the NJ Star Ledger and they had a story about how the lap counter at a meet did not ring the bell lap provoking the anchor leg on a HS DMR to run an extra lap. His 4-lap split was 4:23, and he was very annoyed that had the bell rang, he could've sprinted and maybe his team had a chance at the meet record (which they missed by mere seconds). I get very angry when things like this happens because the officials are there for a particular reason and they fail to (at times) realize it. In AAU competiton last year, I witnessed an official stop 3 consecutive 3,000m races a lap short! I can understand one, but 3!! He even went over to one of the participants, who was now at a water cooler, and informed her that she had an additional lap! What if she didn't advance? Another example occurred an indoor county meet in NJ, where the official physically prevented the runners from exchanging the baton and attempted to make them run an extra lap. Officials, pay attention to the track, PLEASE!! Larry A. Morgan, Sr. Elizabeth Heat TC As much as I sympathize with your identification of incompetency, I issue one warning: the only way to ultimately take care of the lap counting problem you identify is to become a lap counter yourself. I'm sure you can claim that you already spend enough time coaching, but there are many coaches who also officiate. And I've seen an awful lot of coaches who screwed up royally and then look for every whichway out of the pickle they've created by and for themselves. Don't get me wrong, meet directors, administrators, athletes and spectators (have I left anyone out?) screw up too. Just try watching a mile (or 1600m for Walt Murphy's sake) in their shoes. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I realize that another point is being made here but I was just told a few weeks ago that coaches are not allowed to officiate in Canada. I don't know if there are similar rules in the US. Regards, Martin In the far eastern provinces of Canada, NB NS in particular , almost all meets HAVE coaches officiating. Most meets would not even take place without the help of a coach or two with a tape measure , clipboard , stop watch or as the meet director. Peter Stuart Head Coach South-East Athletics Head Coach NB Canada Games Coach,Field Events, Universitie de Moncton NB Coaching Chair Master Course Conductor NB CSG web page http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/stuart/
t-and-f: X-C Races in SF Area
Netters, Does anyone know of an open cross country race in California, preferably within 50 miles of the SF Bay area in mid-late January through the first week of February? Reply to me or the list. Happy New Year! Thanks. Patrick O'Dowd
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Re: t-and-f: What are we really saying?
Hydrogen dioxide overdose caused the death of a runner in the Chicago Marathon so maybe it needs to be regulated so we can have a perfect world. TD I hope you are not against ergogenics. After all hydrogen dioxide is the world's most prevalent ergogenic aid. John the crazy alaskan runner
Re: t-and-f: chip timing at European Cross-Country Chamionships
In a message dated 12/31/01 12:35:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can this chip timing record team standing at every 5 km split and report those standing to a press room and TV in real time? Tom, I'm pretty sure this technology exists right now. Those of us stuck in the press room watching the TV feeds haven't experienced it, but folks at home in front of their computers could track individual runners' progress vie these very same mats. All it would take is inputting the data into a race scoring computer that would have the team registration info and spit out the intermediate scores as required. Jim Gerweck Running Times also hungry for new technology, but usually starving in the lunch line at the BAA press room.
Re: t-and-f: chip timing at European Cross-Country Chamionships
In a message dated 12/31/01 4:39:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A runner could have his torso cross first but have the transponder on his back leg and lose several places. I think S.O.P. in transponder timed Xc races is to have the competitors where a chip on EACH shoe, to lessen (though admittedly not eliminate) such occurences. Jim Gerweck Running Times
Re: t-and-f: What are we really saying?
Yes, it was water poisoning. It was this novice female runner's first marathon. She stopped at just about every water table and drank a liter or more at who knows how many water stations along the course, which depleted (diluted) her system of electrolytes. Basically the same thing that happens from alcohol poisoning (and, similarly - though physiologically different - if you wrapped your lips around the tail pipe of a car while the engine was running.) Because of this, some may want to call for the ban of alcohol and fossil fuel-burning combustion engines. But, I think this is a little different than from advocating drugs with the intent of improving athletic performance. Tom Derderian wrote: Hydrogen dioxide overdose caused the death of a runner in the Chicago Marathon so maybe it needs to be regulated so we can have a perfect world. TD I hope you are not against ergogenics. After all hydrogen dioxide is the world's most prevalent ergogenic aid. John the crazy alaskan runner
