t-and-f: Drugs and America's game
I didn't know what idiocy to pick out of this article but here goes: Doctors ought to quit worrying about what ballplayers are taking, Bonds said when told doctors have suggested that widespread use of steroids in baseball -- 10 to 50%, by some estimates -- may cause liver, kidney or heart problems. What players take doesn't matter, Bonds said. It's nobody else's business. The doctors should spend their time looking for cures for cancer. It takes more than muscles to hit homers. If all those guys were using stuff, how come they're not all hitting homers? http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20020521/287815.htmlqs=steroids%20bonds Regards, Martin
Re: t-and-f: Drugs and America's game
Martin Dixon posted wisdom from Barry Bonds: What players take doesn't matter, Bonds said. It's nobody else's business. The doctors should spend their time looking for cures for cancer. It takes more than muscles to hit homers. If all those guys were using stuff, how come they're not all hitting homers? Problem with that statement is - they ARE all hitting HRs. Here are a couple things I'd looked up awhile back: Year # Players with 33 or more HR 19607 19655 197015 19717 (added this to see if 1970 was expansion blip) 19756 19807 19858 19909 199938 200032 Last year, the SS HR board includes the following - which I've compared with the HR leaders (all positions) for 1976: 2001 SS's 1976 All Positions ARod 52 Schmidt 38 Aurilia 37 Kingman 37 Tejeda31 Monday32 Valentin* 28 Nettles 32 Hernandez 25 Foster29 Jeter 21 Morgan27 Gonzalez 17 Bando 27 Cabrera 14 Jackson 27 Rollins 14 Hendrick 25 Halter12 May 25 Guzman10 Rice 25 Gutierrez 10 Lugo 10 Renteria 10 Clayton9 Gonzalez 9 Reese 9 Relaford 8 And of course, that's leaving off the injured Nomar Garciaparra, who had averaged 28 HR/year for 1997-2000. In 1976 all the starting SS's in the NL East combined for 8 HR. And that's only because Tim Foli had 6. Phil
t-and-f: Golden West Info?
Does anybody know who to contact with info on Golden West. A friend of mine has a 400 meter runner who is interested. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: Drugs and America's game
Masback ought to laminate this article in plastic and show it to anyone in the media who asks him about drug use in track. Martin J. Dixon wrote: I didn't know what idiocy to pick out of this article but here goes: Doctors ought to quit worrying about what ballplayers are taking, Bonds said when told doctors have suggested that widespread use of steroids in baseball -- 10 to 50%, by some estimates -- may cause liver, kidney or heart problems. What players take doesn't matter, Bonds said. It's nobody else's business. The doctors should spend their time looking for cures for cancer. It takes more than muscles to hit homers. If all those guys were using stuff, how come they're not all hitting homers? http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20020521/287815.htmlqs=steroids%20bonds -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarxô 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated... - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)
Re: t-and-f: Drugs and America's game
You know what amazes me is how my local paper (the Austin American-Statesman) won't print much more than a paragraph, if that, about Euro and Grand Prix meets (they had NOTHING about the Portland meet, not even agate), but everytime somebody gets busted for drugs, they suddenly have plenty of space to cover to cover track. I've written them letters; nothing has changed. Lee Masback ought to laminate this article in plastic and show it to anyone in the media who asks him about drug use in track. Martin J. Dixon wrote: I didn't know what idiocy to pick out of this article but here goes: Doctors ought to quit worrying about what ballplayers are taking, Bonds said when told doctors have suggested that widespread use of steroids in baseball -- 10 to 50%, by some estimates -- may cause liver, kidney or heart problems. What players take doesn't matter, Bonds said. It's nobody else's business. The doctors should spend their time looking for cures for cancer. It takes more than muscles to hit homers. If all those guys were using stuff, how come they're not all hitting homers? http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20020521/287815.htmlqs=steroids%20bonds -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarxô 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated... - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000) -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: t-and-f: Golden West Info?
Entry standards are at http://www.dyestat.com/us/2out/gwi/standards.htm You still have to be invited. The page says if you meet the standards (47.75 for boys 400), Go to the GWI web page www.gwinvitational.org, fill out the Athlete Information Form and FAX it to GWI at 916-487-8601. John Dye [EMAIL PROTECTED] DyeStat - the Internet home of high school track www.dyestat.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Track Field List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Golden West Info? Does anybody know who to contact with info on Golden West. A friend of mine has a 400 meter runner who is interested. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: Re: private post
I never intitated privacy from a stranger. Thumper!! especially when the nature of it has to do with my friends Hell yes!!! put that in your peace pipe and smoke on it In a message dated 5/22/2002 7:51:04 AM, Macdezal writes: Certainly is a low class move to take a private post and bring it to the list. Were you looking for people to jump on your bandwagon?
Re: t-and-f: Drugs and America's game
An article in the LA Times about a week ago quoted former big league star Jose Canseco as saying that about 85% of major league baseball players use steroids. Jose himself never admitted using, but back in his wild Madonna-dating days he was busted for driving his Jaguar 120 mph and they found steroids when they searched the car. Something certainly has changed in baseball. It used to be a remarkable achievement for anyone to hit 50 home runs in a year. That would happen once every 5 or 10 years. Now every year there are a bunch of guys hitting 50 and the top one or two guys hit 70. Kurt Bray Masback ought to laminate this article in plastic and show it to anyone in the media who asks him about drug use in track. Martin J. Dixon wrote: I didn't know what idiocy to pick out of this article but here goes: Doctors ought to quit worrying about what ballplayers are taking, Bonds said when told doctors have suggested that widespread use of steroids in baseball -- 10 to 50%, by some estimates -- may cause liver, kidney or heart problems. What players take doesn't matter, Bonds said. It's nobody else's business. The doctors should spend their time looking for cures for cancer. It takes more than muscles to hit homers. If all those guys were using stuff, how come they're not all hitting homers? http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20020521/287815.htmlqs=steroids%20bonds -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarxô 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated... - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000) _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
t-and-f: 9.85w by Fredericks
from sportserver.com Fredericks sets year's best 100m time (wind was 3.0) Agence France-Presse NAIROBI (May 18, 2002 12:29 PM EDT) - Veteran Namibian sprinter Frankie Fredericks showed he is right back in form by clocking the fastest 100 meters time of the year with a wind-assisted 9.85sec here on Saturday. The 34-year-old former Olympic and world silver medalist was one of the star attractions in the IAAF permit meeting. I am happy to run this time despite the high Nairobi altitude, said Fredericks who has already run 9.94sec this year since returning to the track after a two-year layoff due to injury. Kebba Tolbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) = Men's and Women's Jumps Multis Coach Syracuse University Track Field _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
t-and-f: USATF News Notes - 5/22/02
Contact:Melissa Beasley
Communications Coordinator
USA Track Field
317-261-0478 x335
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USATF NEWS NOTES
Volume 3, Number 50 Wednesday, May 22, 2002
National Track Field Hall of Fame Nominations Open
People wishing to nominate an athlete, coach or contributor to the National
Track Field Hall of Fame may do so through June 15. Nomination
information, forms, deadlines and criteria are available at the USATF Web
site, http://www.usatf.org/athletes/hof/nominations/
One hundred eighty-eight athletes, coaches and contributors currently are
members of the Hall of Fame, which will reopen in its new location at the
168th Street Armory in New York City in 2003. The Class of 2002 will be
inducted this December at the Jesse Owens Awards Dinner and Xerox Hall of
Fame Induction Ceremony, presented by The Document Company - Xerox. The
dinner is part of USA Track Fields 2002 Annual Meeting in Kansas City,
Mo.
Runyan to compete at Freihofers
Marla Runyan, holder of the American indoor record at 5000 meters, announced
Tuesday that she will join the elite field assembled for the 24th Annual
Freihofer's Run for Women Saturday, June 1 in Albany, New York. The race
will serve as the USA National Womens 5k Championship.
In 2001, Runyan, 33, announced she would target the 5000m and predicted an
American indoor record. She delivered Feb. 18 with an American record
(15:07.33) at the Armory in New York City. She then went on to win the U.S.
outdoor 5000m title in a time of 15:08.03.
Runyan comes to Freihofer's in peak form. At the adidas Oregon Track Classic
in Portland on Saturday, Runyan finished second in the 5000m to Ethiopia's
Tirunesh Dibaba (15:13.78) in a time of 15:13.96. Both Dibaba and Runyan
broke the old meet record of 15:14.03.
The field she will face at Freihofers is impressive, with four of the last
five race champions competing: Collette Liss ('01), Libbie Hickman ('00),
Cheri Kenah ('99), and Elva Dryer (97).
For more information on Freihofers Run for Women, visit the race Web site,
http://www.freihofersrun.com/
World record holders on hand at JavFest
Olympians Tom Pukstys, Bill Schmidt, Duncan Atwood and Tony Hall join world
record setters Tom Petranoff and Kate Schmidt at the 3rd Annual American
JavFest on June 14-16 at Steinbrenner Field on the campus of MIT in
Cambridge, Massachusetts. Special guest Janis Lusis, a two-time world record
setter, Olympic champion and four-time European champion, also will be on
hand.
Presented by Klub Keihas and The Throwing Zone, JavFest is a javelin summit
that presents throwers the best chance to improve their throwing or coaching
skills from the best coaches in the U.S. Dr. Bob Sing, USATF Developmental
Chair, Jeff Gorski and Gary Reddaway lead the combined clinic and
competition event.
For more information on registration, which includes all classes,
competitions, admission to evening social, clinic booklet and a tee-shirt,
visit the Klub Keihas website at www.intrex.net/klubkeihas
http://www.intrex.net/klubkeihas. For additional information contact Jeff
Gorski at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or Tom Petranoff
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED].
USATF volunteer named Teacher of the Year
Mark Brand, a longtime member of USATF's Media Services event crew and
accomplished masters athlete, has been named Teacher of the Year at Johnson
Wales University's Denver campus. The award was based upon teaching
excellence, student retention and student advising.
Brand, who also has done communications and marketing work for USATF,
currently is studying for his PhD in business with emphasis on marketing
from Tourou University International. A resident of Boulder, Colorado, this
winter Brand was part of the Olympic Torch relay. Also in 2002, Brand has
set personal records on the track at 800 and 1500 meters, and he competes
regularly at the national level in masters competition.
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Re: t-and-f: Drugs and America's game
And of couse Barry Bonds, until last year, had never hit more than 46 home runs, and had hit 40 only three times in his life. malmo Martin Dixon posted wisdom from Barry Bonds: What players take doesn't matter, Bonds said. It's nobody else's business. The doctors should spend their time looking for cures for cancer. It takes more than muscles to hit homers. If all those guys were using stuff, how come they're not all hitting homers? Problem with that statement is - they ARE all hitting HRs. Here are a couple things I'd looked up awhile back: Year # Players with 33 or more HR 19607 19655 197015 19717 (added this to see if 1970 was expansion blip) 19756 19807 19858 19909 199938 200032 Last year, the SS HR board includes the following - which I've compared with the HR leaders (all positions) for 1976: 2001 SS's 1976 All Positions ARod 52 Schmidt 38 Aurilia 37 Kingman 37 Tejeda31 Monday32 Valentin* 28 Nettles 32 Hernandez 25 Foster29 Jeter 21 Morgan27 Gonzalez 17 Bando 27 Cabrera 14 Jackson 27 Rollins 14 Hendrick 25 Halter12 May 25 Guzman10 Rice 25 Gutierrez 10 Lugo 10 Renteria 10 Clayton9 Gonzalez 9 Reese 9 Relaford 8 And of course, that's leaving off the injured Nomar Garciaparra, who had averaged 28 HR/year for 1997-2000. In 1976 all the starting SS's in the NL East combined for 8 HR. And that's only because Tim Foli had 6. Phil
Re: t-and-f: 9.85w by Fredericks
Shouldn't the wind have less of an effect at higher altitudes (less air density)? Any way you slice it this time was definitely aided (wind/altitude), but it definitely seems like a 3 m/s tailwind at a mile+ above sea level is not equivalent to a 3 m/s tailwind at sea level. Maybe we need altitude graded wind allowances (: At any rate its good to see Fredericks back in form again, this is shaping up to be a great sprint year and we havent even really heard from Greene or Boldon yet. --- Kebba Tolbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from sportserver.com Fredericks sets year's best 100m time (wind was 3.0) Agence France-Presse NAIROBI (May 18, 2002 12:29 PM EDT) - Veteran Namibian sprinter Frankie Fredericks showed he is right back in form by clocking the fastest 100 meters time of the year with a wind-assisted 9.85sec here on Saturday. The 34-year-old former Olympic and world silver medalist was one of the star attractions in the IAAF permit meeting. I am happy to run this time despite the high Nairobi altitude, said Fredericks who has already run 9.94sec this year since returning to the track after a two-year layoff due to injury. Kebba Tolbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) = Men's and Women's Jumps Multis Coach Syracuse University Track Field _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com = Randy Mayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com
RE: t-and-f: 9.85w by Fredericks
The following site has a wind-altitude adjustment calculator. For Nairobi (1675m) the corrected time would be 10.00 (sea level at 0.0 mps). http://desert.jsd.claremont.edu/~newt/track/wind/ -Original Message- From: Randal Mayes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 3:36 PM To: t-and-f Subject: Re: t-and-f: 9.85w by Fredericks Shouldn't the wind have less of an effect at higher altitudes (less air density)? Any way you slice it this time was definitely aided (wind/altitude), but it definitely seems like a 3 m/s tailwind at a mile+ above sea level is not equivalent to a 3 m/s tailwind at sea level. Maybe we need altitude graded wind allowances (: At any rate it's good to see Fredericks back in form again, this is shaping up to be a great sprint year and we haven't even really heard from Greene or Boldon yet. --- Kebba Tolbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from sportserver.com Fredericks sets year's best 100m time (wind was 3.0) Agence France-Presse NAIROBI (May 18, 2002 12:29 PM EDT) - Veteran Namibian sprinter Frankie Fredericks showed he is right back in form by clocking the fastest 100 meters time of the year with a wind-assisted 9.85sec here on Saturday. The 34-year-old former Olympic and world silver medalist was one of the star attractions in the IAAF permit meeting. I am happy to run this time despite the high Nairobi altitude, said Fredericks who has already run 9.94sec this year since returning to the track after a two-year layoff due to injury. Kebba Tolbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) = Men's and Women's Jumps Multis Coach Syracuse University Track Field _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com = Randy Mayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com
t-and-f: Update on Mike Morison
Netters: Mike Morrison, a Willingboro junir who cleared 7-0 or better half a dozen times last winter, hasn't managed to do it this spring, but ht hasn't been exacrlt idle It hasn't been very good high jumping weather in frigid NJ and Mike is still our top jumper to date with his 6-10 1/4 at Prnn. However, he has been quite active also as a runner. Indoors, he confined this to leading off Willingboro's 1600R team. Ourtdoors, he has picked up a new event, the IH and recently recorded a 54.88 wi in his first major outing (subbing for an injured teammate at the county meet) Mike is also a 22+ long jumper, but has stayed away from that event in open meets, probably because of the firigd and sometimes wet conditions. The LJ was postponed at the Burlington Cty meet and he was due to compete there. His reprtoire at the sectionals this wekend will probaly be the IH, 1600R, LJ and HJ. His soph teammate, Dijon Thomas, a basketball playert in the winter, has cleared 6-8 this spring. On another note, look for Winslow Twp (nee Edgewood) to dominate the 1600R the next few years in NJ. Not only is the present double twin team coming back intact in 2003, but Russ Bates has a 3:32 frosh team and a soph team which matched that with a 58-second leg. Camden also has a bright future. It ran an all-soph 400 team at the East Coast Relays Monday night at Morristown and finished third in 43.4+ Jamar Ervin is very doubtful for the scctionals this weekend and, if he doesn't run, that will be it for his HS career as he turns 19 next month. Bob Hersh recently suggested there must be something in the water here that produces so many twin combos. At present, we have five sets performing at a high lever: the two at Winslow, the Porters at Franklin, the Dillars, who have just become eligible at Toms River South after transferring from a nearby school, and, of course, the the Trotters. And every one will be vack next year. Ed Grant
t-and-f: Re: private post
Actually, I reside in a housing project. Perhaps, I am indeed low class ?? I have never know any difference. What do you suggest? Perhaps a visit with you and your family to straigten me out. Trading Places. That was a very realistic movie Are you free?? In a message dated 5/22/2002 2:47:04 PM, Macdezal writes: Just like what goes into a peace pipe, a low class move still leaves a low class residue, even after it's smoked!
t-and-f: USATF Release: Worldwide Superstars expected at Prefontaine Classic
Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track Field (317) 261-0500 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, May 22, 2002 Worldwide Superstars expected at Prefontaine Classic INDIANAPOLIS - Marion Jones, Stacy Dragila, Adam Nelson, Hicham El Guerrouj, Gail Devers, Allen Johnson, Jeff Hartwig Svetlana Feofanova and Sonia OSullivan are just a few of the top entries at the 28th annual Nike Prefontaine Classic in Eugene, Oregon on Sunday, May 26. The IAAF Grand Prix I meet, the second event on USATF's 2002 Outdoor Golden Spike Tour, will be televised on ESPN2 from 11 p.m.-12:30 a.m. Eastern Time. Now in its fourth year, the Golden Spike Tour provides America's best athletes the opportunity to compete in the United States and earn substantial prize money in front of a nationally televised audience. Sponsors of the 2002 Outdoor Golden Spike Tour are Verizon, Visa, and SoBe Sports System, with additional support from Nike, Xerox and General Motors. For more information on the Golden Spike Tour, visit the USATF Web site, www.usatf.org. Tickets for the 2002 Prefontaine Classic are $22.50 for reserved seats and $16.50 for adult general admission. Discounts are available for seniors, students and youngsters (2-10). Children under 2 years old are admitted free. Group discounts are also available. For more ticket information on the 2002 Prefontaine Classic visit www.preclassic.com. 2002 Prefontaine Classic at a Glance (fields subject to change). Women's Pole Vault - 1:00 p.m. THE FIELD: Stacy Dragila, Svetlana Feofanova (RUS), Kellie Suttle, Mel Mueller, Mary Sauer, Jill Schwartz. THE SCOOP: Only seven women in history have cleared 15 feet (4.57m) in the pole vault outdoors, and five of them will be jumping in the Prefontaine Classic on Sunday. Leading the field will be outdoor world record holder Stacy Dragila, and indoor world record holder Svetlana Feofanova of Russia. Dragila has dominated outdoors, winning the inaugural World Championships vault in 1999, the Olympics in 2000, and the 2001 World Champs in Edmonton. In Edmonton, she and the 21-year-old Russian engaged in one of the greatest vault competitions of all-time, both clearing 4.75 meters/15 feet 7 inches, a height second only to Stacy's 4.81m/15-9.25 world record, with the American taking the win on fewer misses. Indoors in 2002, while Dragila battled foot problems, Feofanova set five world records in 29 days. Her current world indoor record is 4.75m/15-7. Joining the two world record holders will be fellow 15-foot club members Kellie Suttle (4.60m/15-1), last week's adidas Oregon Track Classic winner Mary Sauer (4.61m/15-1.25), and Mel Mueller (4.62m/15-1.75). Men's Shot Put - 1:05 p.m. THE FIELD: Adam Nelson, John Godina, Kevin Toth, Adam Nelson, John Davis, Brad Snyder (CAN), Justin Anlezark (AUS). THE SCOOP: Olympic silver medalist Adam Nelson produced one of the greatest series in shot put history with his performance in the adidas Oregon Track Classic. His winning throw of 22.51m/73-10.25 was the fifth-best ever by an American, and all four of his fair throws were over 71-feet. Nelson wasn't the only hot thrower, as world #3 John Godina threw 21.89m/71-10, and comebacking Kevin Toth threw 21.78m/71-5.50. The Prefontaine Classic shot put record is the oldest one on the books, a mark of 21.52m/70-7.50 by Al Feuerbach, from the 1974 Renovation Meet (which became the Pre Classic the next year). The 28-year-old standard appears to be in serious jeopardy. Women's 1,500 Meters - 1:07 p.m. THE FIELD: Regina Jacobs, Nicole Teter, Jen Toomey, Cheri Kenah, Sarah Schwald, Mary Jayne Harrelson, Janet Trujillo, Mari Chandler, Ellissa Reidy, Jenelle Deatherage, Diane Cummins (CAN), Mardrea Hyman (JAM), Lyudmila Vasilyeva (RUS). THE SCOOP: Two-time World Outdoor Championships silver medalist Regina Jacobs will take on a strong list of competitors in this event. The ten-time U.S. Outdoor 1,500m champ, Jacobs also won the gold medal in this event at the 1995 World Indoor Championships. New American indoor 800m record holder Nicole Teter, who won her specialty (2:00.52) last Saturday in Portland, will challenge Jacobs, along with fellow Americans Cheri Kenah, who finished third in the 5,000m in Portland (15:14.69) and 2001 World Outdoor Championships semifinalist Sarah Schwald. 2002 U.S. Indoor mile and 800m runner-up Mary Jayne Harrelson is also in the field. Russias Lyudmila Vasilyeva, who ended the 2001 season ranked #9 in the world, leads an international cast that includes Canadas Diane Cummins and Jamaicas Mardrea Hyman. Men's 100 Meters - 1:23 p.m. THE FIELD: Tim Montgomery, Bernard Williams, J.J. Johnson, Coby Miller, Jon Drummond, Kim Collins (SKN), Aziz Zakari (GHA). THE SCOOP: Americans Tim Montgomery and Shawn Crawford will square off in a showdown as the
t-and-f: U.S Open Press Release 5/21
For Immediate Release May 21, 2002 WORLD'S TOP SHOT PUTTERS HEADLINE FIELD FOR ORACLE U.S. OPEN TRACK FIELD Any time Johna Godina and Adam Nelson go head-to head, expect big things. After all, in the world of the weightman in track field, the two Americans are the biggest of big shots. Godina, a three-time world champion, is regarded as the world's best shot putter. He was ranked No. 1 in the world last season by Track Field News Magazine after winning 13 of 15 meets and posting a season best of 72-1/4. Nelson ranked No. 2 in the world last season, handing Godina his only two defeats. Nelson had a best of 70-73/4, but that was merely a tuneup for 2002. Nelson currently tops the world list with his mammoth 73-101/4 on May 18 in Portland, Ore. That was good enough to beat Godina (71-10) and Kevin Toth (71-51/2) in arguably the finest competition in the world to date. Those three currently rank 1-2-3 in the world. Moreover, all three will headline the shot put field at the 2002 Oracle U.S. Open Track Field meet, set for 6 p.m. on June 8 at Stanford University‚s Cobb Track Angell Field. The nationally televised IAAF Grand Prix I meet, which will be shown on a tape-delayed basis on June 9 (1-2 p.m. PDT), also includes Olympians Marion Jones, Gail Devers, Stacy Dragila, Regina Jacobs and some of the finest Kenyan runners in the world. The USATF Golden Spike Tour event was one of the most successful in the world last season with a sellout crowd and fields filled with Olympic-caliber athletes. Godina, in fact, was among the field last year when he won the shot put with his yearly best of 72-1/4. That was good enough to beat Nelson (68-31/4). This season, however, Nelson has the upper hand thanks to the competitive nature of the event. I'm just beginning, Nelson said after his 73-101/4 mark in Portland. I've got bigger things in store. As long as I can stay healthy and get ready for Nationals [also at Stanford, June 21-23], there's going to be some really big things coming on—especially if we have competitions like this with Kevin Toth, Andy Bloom, John Godina and Brad Snyder, and all those guys pushing everybody. If we keep getting crowds like this, there‚s going to be some big things coming. „Throwing a 73-footer early in the competition was completely unexpected. I fouled earlier this year at 73-8, so I knew I could do it. But, to throw that far back-to-back was more than I could ever want right now.‰ In addition to Nelson and Godina, the Oracle U.S. Open field includes Toth, Bloom and Snyder. Nelson, Godina and Toth currently have 10 of the best 12 throws in the world in 2002. „I won‚t know where this competition ranks on the all- time meets in the world, but this has to be close to the top,‰ Godina said after his 71-10 throw got him second in Portland. To throw 71-10 and get 2nd, what are you going to do? Now my job is to get ready for the U.S. Championships. It's not fun to lose, but I got close to my PR and it was a really, really great performance on Adam's part. In addition to the elite athletes competing, the Oracle U.S. Open Track Field meet will also feature free sports clinics for children ages 14 and under. Taught by professional athletes and coaches, these clinics have attracted hundreds of youngsters who learn tips and techniques that help them improve their skills in a variety of sports. This year's clinics will conclude with one on the afternoon of the meet, starting at 2 p.m. Tickets for this meet, as well as for the USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships (June 21-23) at Stanford, are available through 1-800-STANFORD. For imore information on the 2002 Oracle U.S. Open Track Field meet, to to www.trackandfieldusa.org. For more information about Oracle, the world‚s largest software company, visit their web site at www.oracle.com.
STOP IT! (Re: t-and-f: Re: private post)
OK, guys. Cut it out. Now. Posting private messages up to the list without asking permission, off-topic banter, and personal insults are all against the charter. Go off and whack each other in public. If someone from the list repeatedly posts privately to you and you don't appreciate it, ask them to stop. If they don't stop, contact one of the list supervisors. But don't bring it to the list. You will be yanked for repeat violations. Thanks, Phil Occassional List Supervisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] owner-t-and-f@lists. cc: uoregon.edu Subject: t-and-f: Re: private post 05/22/02 04:58 PM Please respond to Lane71321 Actually, I reside in a housing project. Perhaps, I am indeed low class ?? I have never know any difference. What do you suggest? Perhaps a visit with you and your family to straigten me out. Trading Places. That was a very realistic movie Are you free?? In a message dated 5/22/2002 2:47:04 PM, Macdezal writes: Just like what goes into a peace pipe, a low class move still leaves a low class residue, even after it's smoked!
Re: t-and-f: Re: private post
Could the two of you not copy the list in any further exchanges. This isn't the appropriate place for your little lovers quarrel. this is a track and field mailing list, not the Jerry Springer show. thanks jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I reside in a housing project. Perhaps, I am indeed low class ?? I have never know any difference. What do you suggest? Perhaps a visit with you and your family to straigten me out. Trading Places. That was a very realistic movie Are you free?? In a message dated 5/22/2002 2:47:04 PM, Macdezal writes: Just like what goes into a peace pipe, a low class move still leaves a low class residue, even after it's smoked!
Re: t-and-f: Re: private post
Might I respectfully request that the 2 of you(actually just 1) keep this little chat off-line where it belongs. I'm sure the list charter deals with this behaviour. Can't lay my hands on it quickly, however. Regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I reside in a housing project. Perhaps, I am indeed low class ?? I have never know any difference. What do you suggest? Perhaps a visit with you and your family to straigten me out. Trading Places. That was a very realistic movie Are you free?? In a message dated 5/22/2002 2:47:04 PM, Macdezal writes: Just like what goes into a peace pipe, a low class move still leaves a low class residue, even after it's smoked!
Re: t-and-f: Re: private post
on 22/5/02 22:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I reside in a housing project. Perhaps, I am indeed low class ?? I have never know any difference. What do you suggest? Perhaps a visit with you and your family to straigten me out. Trading Places. That was a very realistic movie Are you free?? Why is this being posted to the list? Randall Northam
Re: t-and-f: Drugs and America's game
If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck The quote really should read: Doctors ought to quit worrying about what ballplayers, footballers, basketballers, cyclists, tracksters, gymnasts, figure skaters, etc, etc, etc, are taking,. If there is money involved and it's a sport chances are many if not most at the top level are cheating. Alan From: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Track Field List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Drugs and America's game Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 05:51:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [128.223.142.13] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBEB4B7FB00C84136E85180DF8E0DBEDD0; Wed, 22 May 2002 03:04:22 -0700 Received: from darkwing.uoregon.edu (majordom@localhost [127.0.0.1])by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4M9uqwI005902for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 22 May 2002 02:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost)by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4M9uq7c005901for t-and-f-outgoing; Wed, 22 May 2002 02:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mrr2.millards.com (millards.com [207.61.19.2])by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4M9uowI005891for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 22 May 2002 02:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from millards.com (mjdixon.dialin.millards.com [192.168.3.19])by mrr2.millards.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g4M9lb231659;Wed, 22 May 2002 05:47:37 -0400 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 22 May 2002 03:04:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: darkwing.uoregon.edu: majordom set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk I didn't know what idiocy to pick out of this article but here goes: Doctors ought to quit worrying about what ballplayers are taking, Bonds said when told doctors have suggested that widespread use of steroids in baseball -- 10 to 50%, by some estimates -- may cause liver, kidney or heart problems. What players take doesn't matter, Bonds said. It's nobody else's business. The doctors should spend their time looking for cures for cancer. It takes more than muscles to hit homers. If all those guys were using stuff, how come they're not all hitting homers? http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20020521/287815.htmlqs=steroids%20bonds Regards, Martin _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
t-and-f: Israeli results
Dear friends, Tel Aviv, U17 Israeli NC: May 20, boys 100m (-0.4): Ram Mor (b. 180487) 10.89. May 21, boys 200m (+0.5): Mor 22.33. David
t-and-f: roids in baseball
Kurt writes: Something certainly has changed in baseball. It used to be a remarkable achievement for anyone to hit 50 home runs in a year. That would happen once every 5 or 10 years. Now every year there are a bunch of guys hitting 50 and the top one or two guys hit 70. As I'm sure you know, Kurt, there are many variables in this equation and while I may personally believe that many ballplayers are probably using steroids, I'm not ready to jump on the there-are-more-HRs-so-they-must-all-be-using-roids bandwagon. They have been talking for a last 2-3 years about juiced baseballs being the cause. Of course that could just be a smokescreen... Jim
t-and-f: WMA invites bids for 2004 world indoor meet
Greetings, all World Masters Athletics doesn't officially have a world masters indoor championships yet, but it's gearing up for an inaugural meet in 2004 by inviting bids now. Deadline is Dec. 31, 2002. Here's the WMA specs on subject: WMA World Indoors 2004 - bid invitation The WMA Council will forward a proposal to the General Assembly in Puerto Rico the next year that our masters Championships programme will also include World Indoors Championships with the inaugural Championships in 2004. For that reason we invite all our Affiliates to bid for these Championships that will preliminarily be organized over four days with March as the most probable month but after the national indoor championships in our major indoor countries (GER, GBR and USA). The Council is very confident that this proposal will be approved by the General Assembly and to be well prepared we invite already now our Affiliates to bid for these inaugural Indoor Championships. Normally September 1 is the deadline for bids for our Champion-ships but as we realize that more time might be necessary for bid preparations we have extended the bidding time to December 31, 2002, which will also give us time to make the necessary inspection visits and have bidders well prepared for presentations at the General Assembly in Puerto Rico. The rules for bids for these Indoor Championships are the same as for our Stadia and Non-Stadia Championships, i.e. a bid must have the support of our WMA Affiliate, the IAAF NGB and the host city's mayor. The sanction fee to be paid to WMA is USD 10.000:- and the WMA fee per athlete is USD 10:-. To organize these World Indoor Championships it is desiarble to have a single 6 lane track, dual simultaneous shot put/weight throw circles, dual simultaneous long/triple jump runways, dual high jump pits and a separate pole vault pit as a minimum to conduct the Championships. As with the WMA Stadia Championships it is required that the Hy-Tek Meet Manager Software as well as fully automatic timing be used. The LOC must provide transportation for athletes, officials and accompanying persons from the primary lodging areas to the venue(s) and back before, after and at reasonable intervals during competitions. On this stage all details are of course not established and many points can be discussed with WMA. Our Stadia Committee will meet in July and thereafter forward its proposal to the Council. A preliminary daily programme could be as follows (men and women where not other stated): 60 meters (Friday prelim, Saturday finals) 200 meters (Saturday prelim, Sunday finals) 400 meters (Friday prelim, Saturday finals) 800 meters (Friday prelim, Saturday finals) 1.500 meters (Sunday seeded heats based on times) 3.000 meters (Thursday seeded heats based on time) 60 meters hurdles (Saturday prelim and finals) 3.000 race walk (Sunday) 4x400 meters relay (Sunday last) 4x800 neters relay (Sunday next to last) high jump (throughout) pole vault (throughout) long jump (Friday and Saturday) triple jump (Saturday, Sunday) shot put (Friday, Saturday) weight throw (Saturday, Sunday) women's indoor pentathlon (Thursday) men's indoor heptathlon (Thursday, Friday) This programme is in no way final and the Stadia Committee and the Council are open for discussions. Based upon figures from European Indoors (1.500-1.800 competitors) and US Indoors (800-1.000 competitors) a realistic figure for these inaugural World Indoors would be 1.500-2.000 athletes. Outdoor experience has shown that athletes enter an average of 2.5 events each but - being fewer indoor events - an average of 2 events per athlete is more realistic. For further information please contact Tom Jordan, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), WMA Executive Vice President and/or Torsten Carlius, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), WMA President (both for administrative questions) and Rex Harvey, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). WMA Vice President Stadia (for technical questions). Torsten Carlius WMA President Ken Stone http://www.masterscopyandpaste.com
Re: t-and-f: roids in baseball
Juiced baseballs, harder throwing pitchers, bigger bats and hitters, smaller parks (and more at altitude), changes in mound heights, more teams (meaning more players to actually hit the dingers), etc have contributed to the rise in home runs. As for why more shortstops have, the type of athlete playing shortstop has changed from the nimble defensive player like Rey Ordonez is now (or Ozzie several years ago) to the less mobile but bigger guys like Nomar. M _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: t-and-f: Drugs and America's game
Hello to all... thought you might find the following comments from a baseball insider of interest. Steve pitched for Duke and played minor league ball for a few years before hanging it up last year. Joel From: Stephen Cowie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joel Gruver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: t-and-f: Drugs and America's game Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 18:09:43 -500 Joel, Those are certainly interesting quotes. Those comments leave little doubt that Bonds is taking steroids. Also the fact that he came into the majors at 180 lbs and now weighs 240 of solid muscle adds evidence. It is common knowledge among professional baseball players that steroid use is quite high in the sport. I have friends that have used them. I disagree with Bond's idea that it is nobody's business what ball players take. There is so much competition to make it to the majors and succeed that players will look for any advantage. What's bad is when players know others are using steroids, they can tend to feel like they too must use them in order to keep up. It's not good to create a situation where players feel like taking steroids is a good choice. The rewards of success in baseball are so high that players will ignore dangers of steroids or pretend they don't exist. They may tell themselves that they will quit using them once they have made it. As far as steroids not making people hit the homeruns I'll say this. It takes an incredible amount of talent and hard work to become a major league hitter. Hitting a homerun requires incredible concentration, hand-eye coordination, split second decision making and a fundamentally sound swing. Without these things strength is useless. However, if you are already capable of hitting extremely well, as Bonds has been for a long time, added strength will increase homerun hitting ability. Homerun frequency is through the roof and all the hitters today look like body builders. In summary, steroid use is rampant. The policies against use are a joke. Major Leaguers aren't tested. Minor Leaguers are given a warning for 1st time, then if they are caught again they are suspended for like 1 game. While it is fun to see big muscle men blast homeruns, and psycho closers throw 100 mph, it is no good for aspiring players. Also it ruins the integrity of baseball. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
t-and-f: NJ twins
Netters: Seems we have a sixth set of twins doing very well this spring, Michelle and Lizzelle Cintron, weight-throwers at Elizabeth HS. I had thought they were just siblings. Ed Grant
t-and-f: On baseball
Netters: I am surprised that, in the analysis of drugs and baseball, no one seems to mention the effect agency has had on the game in all aspects. Baseball player salaries are pegged at what the agents want to make out of their chattels and naturally they want them to last as long as possible,. So just as we now have super-annuated stars in tyrack, so we have them in all other sports. Ed Grant
