Re: t-and-f: Now why didn't we see THIS in the media?
as i heard someone say to one of the official aggie spokespersons: "We have no comment. Regardless of our reputation, there is no evidence to suggest that a particular Ivy League grad was instrumental in the appearance of multiple homemade pony-kegs of home brew in the stands above the start of the 100...nor was there any evidence to suggest that myriad members of a particular group brought in literally cases of High Life over the three day period. As for the betting allegation: 'puh-lease.'" for malmo: hootie alive and well although not in rarefied attendance as the previous years. PAUSATF Grand Prix road race in Sacto that same morning seriously diminished ooodles of participants...and, as was noted earlier at the actual meet by previous Hootie denizens: "this crowd sucks"maybe that had something to do with something. regardless...cinco de hootie will present itself in full one year from now. -t. cook, esq. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Now why didn't we see THIS in the media? Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 00:44:32 EDT trust me I tried, but was stopped in my tracks In a message dated 6/26/2002 8:58:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Aren't "No Beer" rules like records? Made to be broken? > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Beer is not allowed in stadium, sorry :) > > _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
t-and-f: Original story on SDSU sprinter case
Y ask: Check out: http://www.uniontrib.com/news/uniontrib/wed/metro/news_7m26student.html Ken Stone
Re: t-and-f: Now why didn't we see THIS in the media?
trust me I tried, but was stopped in my tracks In a message dated 6/26/2002 8:58:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Aren't "No Beer" rules like records? Made to be broken? > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Beer is not allowed in stadium, sorry :) > >
Re: t-and-f: Now why didn't we see THIS in the media?
Aren't "No Beer" rules like records? Made to be broken? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Beer is not allowed in stadium, sorry :)
Re: t-and-f: Questioning Sean Shields's "WJR" in discus
The week before Nationals I was part of a U.S. Tennis Court & Track Builders Association (the major trade organization in the industry, of which I am a member) meeting with the high school federation (NFSHSA), the NCAA, and USATF to discuss issues of importance to members. I brought up the issue of the "bastard events" with the NFSHSA delegation, but didn't get much of a favorable response. If I had gotten a favorable response I would have brought up the introduction of the international junior implements. I'm 59 and I don't think I'll live long enough to see any change by NFSHSA in this area. I did get a favorable response in respect to one recommendation: Both NFSHSA and NCAA are silent with regard to the break line adjustment in the 800 and 4x400 (the extra distance people in all lanes except lane one must run as they break for the curb). I think this matter will be addressed in future editions of their respective rule books. Jon Alquist wrote: > Just a thought: Perhaps the National High School Federation should > consider adopting the new international junior implements (6kg > shot/1.75kg discus) so that marks made by U.S. preps would be more > readily comparable to those of international juniors. Of course, I > would still prefer that it first go back to running the mile and/or > 1500m and 2-mile/3000m instead of the those God-awful bastard > 1600m/3200m events. > > JON ALQUIST > ATFS, FAST -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarx 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice & FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com "Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated..." - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)
t-and-f: San Diego State sprinter jailed in stabbing death of boyfriend
The Associated Press SAN DIEGO (June 26, 2002 4:13 p.m. EDT) - A star sprinter from San Diego State University has been jailed in the stabbing death of her married boyfriend, who died early Wednesday. http://sportserver.com/track_field/story/447862p-3583839c.html
Re: t-and-f: Nationals
22.35 in the 200m, sad but true, these dopes can't think past 3-4 athletes per sport. MJR
Re: t-and-f: taping (was: Questioning Sean Shields's "WJR"
In a message dated Wed, 26 Jun 2002 4:53:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, Robert Hersh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >There was a taping-the-hand issue. T&FN didn't buy the argument and >accepted the 67-9 as the HSR, even though it didn't get deserved Junior >status. I'm not sure if the mark would be legal under current taping >strictures. >< > >I doubt it. See IAAF Rule 187.4(a).> ahh.. nothing like having somebody else do the research for you :-) Yes, Carter (who in HS taped two fingers together becuase of an injury) would still be in violation, although i find it instructive to note that the first part of the rule reads, "no device of any kind--i.e., the taping of two or more fingers together--WHICH IN ANY WAY ASSISTS A COMPETITOR when making an attempt, shall be allowed." The caps are mine because of my belief that for a world-class putter taping fingers together doesn't assist. This is based on an emotional conversation I had once with Randy Matson (himself a fair-country putter). It was his contention that this was a stupid rule because while tape could prevent further injury (just as a wrap on any other joint), it actually HINDERS shot putting. He then proceeded to demonstrate something which is certainly incomprehensible to a normal human being (which undoubtedly includes the crafters of such rules, who rarely have any hands-on experience). When you or I try to throw a 16lb ball, you either get it down into your palm, or your fingers bend a ways back. Matson, et al, actually snap the ball off the end of their fingers. Tape inhibits this motion. I was left with the feeling (and nothing has happened to dissuade me in the years since) that it's a bad rule. gh
Re: t-and-f: Nationals
>From: Ed and Dana Parrot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >After having the opportunity to watch all the action this past >weekend, I >once again am reminded how exciting high level track and >field is to >watch. >Some thoughts: >-Davis is going big places in the triple jump. He seems like he is >very >under control and could add a foot or two by Athens. >- Ed Parrot I agree with you about Walter Davis. I was suprised that they didn't show it on TV. I was out at Stanford and taped the meet. When I got back home I'm scrolling through the coverage and I see at the end in the "and in other events" top 3 placers and was like "oh" I mean if 57'9 at nationals doesn't get you on TV what does? --Kebba _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
RE: t-and-f: Now why didn't we see THIS in the media?
So you went to your first track meet and sat next to the Aggies? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lee Nichols Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Now why didn't we see THIS in the media? I have a sportswriter friend who was at the infamous Cleveland Browns beer-bottle riot last season. He also was at USATF last weekend, and sent me this. Enjoy: > Man, did you hear what happened at USA nationals? I'm watching the >shot put, and John Godina had a really, really good attempt. Except the >meet official called it a foul. Real controversial. So then, the guy >next to me throws his beer on the field and I thought, "Wow.'' Then >everyone started throwing their beers. The meet officials and other >shot putters had to run off and duck beer bottles, and we all rioted >for half an hour. > > Just kidding. He had me going for about half a second. -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: Adams State College Ass't Coach desired
from Adam's State coach Damon Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Adams State College, a member if the NCAA Division II and the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference, is now accepting applications for the position of full time/ 10 month assistant men's and women's track and field coach, and instructor for HPER. Qualifications: Bachelor's degree required, master's preferred. Successful coaching experience of both men and women and the ability to recruit quality student athletes. Experience in sprints, hurdles and relays required. Duties include, but are not limited too: Assisting with practice, development of student athletes in the classroom and in competition, commitment to NCAA rules and regulations, assisting with meet management, team travel and special emphasis will be place on recruiting. Applications will be accepted until the position is filled. Send Letter of application and Resume to: Damon Martin Head Track Coach Adams State College Alamosa, CO 81102 Fax# (719) 587-7276 Mike Scott Vice Chair/Secretary, USATF Cross Country Council Clubs Coordinator, Team USA Distance Running Coordinator, CanAm High Performance Distance Circuit [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://miscott.home.att.net/
Re: t-and-f: elite track at Astrodome
Would they keep the seats the color of those ugly old Astro uniforms? - Original Message - From: "Lee Nichols" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: elite track at Astrodome > Well, even after seeing an artist's rendering, I'm still having a > hard time picturing it, but here's the idea for converting the Dome > into a t&f venue (scroll down to "Athletics"): > http://www.houston2012.com/thegames-venues/reliant_park.html > > -- > Lee Nichols > Assistant News Editor > The Austin Chronicle > 512/454-5766, ext. 138 > fax 512/458-6910 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: Nationals
After having the opportunity to watch all the action this past weekend, I once again am reminded how exciting high level track and field is to watch. Some thoughts: - The men's shot put was by far the highlight of the meet. Those guys had the crowd on fire. As great as it was, I also have to register my dislike of the "flights" concept, as others have done. The second flight built to a tremendous peak, only to have the air let out during the break before the finals. Nelson's final throw was still electrifying, but round 4 and 5 were yawners, made so largely by the break. If we had to have some qualifying rounds on thursday with no spectators, it would be a worthy tradeoff to regain the continuity of the finals. -The men's 5K was among the most exciting of the running events, with plenty of lead changes in the last mile. It was great to see Luchini in the mix as well. The 1500m should have been exciting, but was perhaps more notable for who wasn't running than for who was. -I would have liked to see another Teter-Jacobs matchup at 1500m, but they were each dominating in the event they ran. - Once again Devers shines best with a negative wind, not that she's bad in any wind! That had to be one of the best quality fields in U.S. history with so many under 13. - Women's pole vault was perhaps less than expected, largely because Stacey is so much better than everyone else. Since she didn't have the early misses, there was no suspense. None of her WR attempts were really that close, although it does seem like she's waiting on the pole more this year than she has done in the past (or maybe she's using a longer pole, I couldn't tell), and eventually that will translate to more WR's. -Davis is going big places in the triple jump. He seems like he is very under control and could add a foot or two by Athens. - The open 100's are probably my least favorite event to watch live. Neverthless, both centuries promised and delivered superstar wins with the challengers at least reasonably close. It will be curious to see if Montgomery can continue to close the gap, which is surely smaller than it used to be. - Ed Parrot
Re: t-and-f: elite track at Astrodome
Well, even after seeing an artist's rendering, I'm still having a hard time picturing it, but here's the idea for converting the Dome into a t&f venue (scroll down to "Athletics"): http://www.houston2012.com/thegames-venues/reliant_park.html -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: Questioning Sean Shields's "WJR"
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > There was a taping-the-hand issue. T&FN didn't buy the argument and accepted the 67-9 as the HSR, even though it didn't get deserved Junior status. I'm not sure if the mark would be legal under current taping strictures. < I doubt it. See IAAF Rule 187.4(a).
Re: t-and-f: Questioning Sean Shields's "WJR"
In a message dated Wed, 26 Jun 2002 4:37:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jon Alquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>WORLD RECORD OR NOT A WORLD RECORD? > >>Not to take anything away from University of Arizona freshman Sean >>Shields's fine winning shot put of 20.39/66-10.75 at the recent US >>Junior Championships, I was just wondering why he is being credited >>with setting an American Junior record and equalling the World >>Junior record.>> It's clearly a super-cheap record, but since the concept of "relative worth" can't enter into any record equation, the new Junior Records in the shot start w/ the 16lb mark; 20.39 for WRJ, 20.38 for AJR. As soon as somebody reaches that mark w/ the new 6kg, it's a record. There's no other way to do it, unfortunately. As a parallel (in reverse, because times get smaller while throws get longer), for decades, when English marks were still being ratified as WRs, Americans were getting cheap 880y records that were clearly far inferior to the 800m best. e.g., Harbig ran 1:46.6 (worth 1:47.3 for yards) in '39, but Mal Whitfield was given full WR credit for a laughably slower 1:49.2y in '50. >>To add to the confusion, although Carter's mark tops the all-time >>junior lists in both the FAST and ATFS Annuals, it is listed in both >>publications' record sections as not having been "officially >>ratified" by either USATF or IAAF. Does anyone know the reason why >>Carter's obviously vastly superior mark, which was made in an >>international dual meet against the Soviet Union in Boston on July >>4, 1979, has never been officially ratified? >> There was a taping-the-hand issue. T&FN didn't buy the argument and accepted the 67-9 as the HSR, even though it didn't get deserved Junior status. I'm not sure if the mark would be legal under current taping strictures. gh
t-and-f: Houston bids for 2012 Olympics
Talk about a state of the art facility if it could be done! >From ESPN.com HOUSTON -- Houston Olympic officials, hoping to attract the 2012 games, plan to complete a total conversion of the Astrodome into an elite track and field facility by 2007. Former Olympians lauded the plan as a step into the future for track and field in the United States. ''It will put the competition on level ground,'' former Olympic sprinter Bill Collins said Tuesday after visiting the Astrodome. ''You won't have to worry anymore about a time being wind-aided or the instrument not being calibrated correctly.'' As part of their package to be the host city for the 2012 Olympics, Houston officials already have pledged an $87 million renovation project for the Astrodome if the city is chosen. The facility would host track and field events. Houston officials now have pledged to complete the stadium sooner than earlier planned -- in time to host other events and work out any kinks in the new facility before the Olympics. ''It's going to be so great for fan appeal,'' Collins said. ''No more sitting in the sun for long periods of time to see the events. It'll be weather-controlled. They could even have a halftime and provide entertainment.'' Houston 2012 president Susan Bandy said the city would be ready to begin the process in November. ''If we are the host city for the United States in November, we'll spend the money on architectural design to have all plans ready to go in 2005,'' Bandy said. Houston is competing with New York, Washington and San Francisco to be the United States' nominee to compete with international cities to host in 2012. The United States Olympic Committee will choose the U.S. city in November. The International Olympic Committee will name the host site in 2005. Houston would attempt to host events such as the World Track and Field Championships and other competition to smooth out operations of the new facility before the Olympics arrive. ''The IOC pushes you to have had events the year before the Olympics,'' Bandy said. ''If we got the World Championships in 2009 that would not be the first event we could have here.'' Houston is preparing for another visit from the USOC on July 11-12, for an inspection before it selects its nominee in November. The Astrodome, the first domed facility, would be totally gutted and restyled into a stadium specifically designed for track and field, including a 400-meter track and 70,000 seats. It would be used for track and field events in the Olympics and would share the opening and closing ceremonies with nearby Reliant Stadium, future home of the NFL Houston Texans. John Chaplain, coach of the United States' 2000 Olympic team, has seen the plans and likes the concept. ''This would be a major step forward,'' he said. ''You're talking about a state of the art stadium that will go to the head of the class. I'm not opposed to multipurpose stadiums as long as we are part of the multi-purposes.'' Houston officials are hoping their plan to speed up conversion of the Astrodome, will help their selection. ''This would be the crown jewel of track and field facilities,'' former Olympian Leroy Burrell said. ''This would make for the fairest Olympics ever with no wind or weather. We've all showed up at the Olympics not knowing what the weather would be like. ''We would have the only facility like it in the world.'' _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Re: t-and-f: elite track at Astrodome
In a message dated Wed, 26 Jun 2002 2:43:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Post, Marty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >So would the marks there be considered as indoor performances (if the Dome makes it >completely closed facility) despite the track being the standard outdoor 400 meters >per lap?>> IAAF removed "indoor" from the WR definition several years ago (i think the Congress of '97 in Athens), although it went generally unnoticed, even by most statisticians. So long as other conditions are OK (like no banked track), makes no difference whether or not a facility has a roof. As it should be. gh
Re: t-and-f: elite track at Astrodome
They used to have an indoor track meet at the Dome. I believe that it was 5 laps to the mile. So, possibly a 400 meter track could be placed within the confines of the stadium. Where they might put all the field events would remain to be seen. Lance Phegley Editor Runner Triathlete News / Inside Texas Running [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.RunnerTriathleteNews.com / www.InsideTexasRunning.com (281) 759-0555 - Original Message - From: "Lee Nichols" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:13 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: elite track at Astrodome > >According to an Associated Press report Houston Olympic officials, hoping to > >attract the 2012 games, plan to complete a total conversion of the Astrodome > >into an elite track and field facility by 2007. > > > >So would the marks there be considered as indoor performances (if the Dome > >makes it completely closed facility) despite the track being the standard > >outdoor 400 meters per lap? > > Perhaps I'm just lacking in imagination, but I cannot conceive of how > a 400 meter track could possibly fit inside the Astrodome. You > wouldn't just be talking about a conversion, but practically building > a whole new stadium. As it is, the dome only holds 50,000 (too small > for Olympic desires, I'm guessing), and if memory serves, the stands > were right up against the field. > > It would be perfect for an indoor track, but it seems to me you'd > have to eliminate almost the entire lower section to fit a regulation > outdoor oval in there. But maybe I just don't understand the overall > architecture of the building. > > As to your original question: Wasn't the stadium in Montreal 1976 > indoor? I think basic logic would dictate that any marks on a > regulation 400m would be considered as no-wind outdoor marks. > -- > Lee Nichols > Assistant News Editor > The Austin Chronicle > 512/454-5766, ext. 138 > fax 512/458-6910 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: Questioning Sean Shields's "WJR" in discus
>WORLD RECORD OR NOT A WORLD RECORD? >Not to take anything away from University of Arizona freshman Sean >Shields's fine winning shot put of 20.39/66-10.75 at the recent US >Junior Championships, I was just wondering why he is being credited >with setting an American Junior record and equalling the World >Junior record. >Not even debating the legitimacy of comparing marks with a 6kg shot >against those made with a 16lb. shot, according to the All-Time U.S. >Junior List in the 2002 edition of the USATF/FAST Annual and the >2002 editon of the ATFS Annual the best mark by a junior with the >16lb. shot is 20.65/67-9 by Mike Carter in 1979. There is also the >indoor 21.05/69-0.75 by Terry Albritton in 1974. >To add to the confusion, although Carter's mark tops the all-time >junior lists in both the FAST and ATFS Annuals, it is listed in both >publications' record sections as not having been "officially >ratified" by either USATF or IAAF. Does anyone know the reason why >Carter's obviously vastly superior mark, which was made in an >international dual meet against the Soviet Union in Boston on July >4, 1979, has never been officially ratified? Outside of an >Olympics/World Championships, could you ask for a more legitimate >and "ratifieable" venue in which to set a world record. > >Seems like a major oversight and serious injustice to Mike. Also, >reflecting on the fact that Carter tossed the 12lb/5.45kg shot >81-3.5/24.77 (IMHO one of if not THE most remarkable performances in >t&f history at any level) that same year, one can only imagine how >far he might have throw the new 6kg implement . . .my guestimate >based on Shields's percentage improvement over his 16lb PB of >19.11/62-8.5 is that Carter would have easily have been capable of >22m+/72-3. Just a thought: Perhaps the National High School Federation should consider adopting the new international junior implements (6kg shot/1.75kg discus) so that marks made by U.S. preps would be more readily comparable to those of international juniors. Of course, I would still prefer that it first go back to running the mile and/or 1500m and 2-mile/3000m instead of the those God-awful bastard 1600m/3200m events. JON ALQUIST ATFS, FAST
t-and-f: Questioning Sean Shields's "WJR" in discus
>WORLD RECORD OR NOT A WORLD RECORD? >Not to take anything away from University of Arizona freshman Sean >Shields's fine winning shot put of 20.39/66-10.75 at the recent US >Junior Championships, I was just wondering why he is being credited >with setting an American Junior record and equalling the World >Junior record. >Not even debating the legitimacy of comparing marks with a 6kg shot >against those made with a 16lb. shot, according to the All-Time U.S. >Junior List in the 2002 edition of the USATF/FAST Annual and the >2002 editon of the ATFS Annual the best mark by a junior with the >16lb. shot is 20.65/67-9 by Mike Carter in 1979. There is also the >indoor 21.05/69-0.75 by Terry Albritton in 1974. >To add to the confusion, although Carter's mark tops the all-time >junior lists in both the FAST and ATFS Annuals, it is listed in both >publications' record sections as not having been "officially >ratified" by either USATF or IAAF. Does anyone know the reason why >Carter's obviously vastly superior mark, which was made in an >international dual meet against the Soviet Union in Boston on July >4, 1979, has never been officially ratified? Outside of an >Olympics/World Championships, could you ask for a more legitimate >and "ratifieable" venue in which to set a world record. > >Seems like a major oversight and serious injustice to Mike. Also, >reflecting on the fact that Carter tossed the 12lb/5.45kg shot >81-3.5/24.77 (IMHO one of if not THE most remarkable performances in >t&f history at any level) that same year, one can only imagine how >far he might have throw the new 6kg implement . . .my guestimate >based on Shields's percentage improvement over his 16lb PB of >19.11/62-8.5 is that Carter would have easily have been capable of >22m+/72-3. Just a thought: Perhaps the National High School Federation should consider adopting the new international junior implements (6kg shot/1.75kg discus) so that marks made by U.S. preps would be more readily comparable to those of international juniors. Of course, I would still prefer that it first go back to running the mile and/or 1500m and 2-mile/3000m instead of the those God-awful bastard 1600m/3200m events. JON ALQUIST ATFS, FAST
t-and-f: Todd C's deca marks
Y ask:
M45 -
1 Cristensen, Todd 12.245.77m 13.51m1.64m
59.39 16.92 34.46m3.60m 44.72m 6:37.86
w: NWI 18'11.25 44'04.00 5'04.50
w: NWI113'01.00 11'09.75146'09.00
Age-Graded Mark: 11.306.95m 15.95m1.95m
53.88 15.08 37.72m4.43m 58.12m 6:03.53
Age-Graded Percent: 87.25% 77.66% 71.86% 79.61%
80.35% 85.64% 53.05% 72.14% 60.56% 57.14%
Age: 45 7006(795)(802)(848)(758)
(645) 3848(840)(618)(740)(710)(250)
Open-level deca scoring table won't work for the hurdles, however, since he
didn't run 42-inch highs.
The new, improved official WMA age-grading factors for deca are at:
http://www.world-masters-athletics.org/app_C.pdf
The same for hep:
http://www.world-masters-athletics.org/app_D.pdf
Ken Stone
http://www.masterstrack.com
Re: t-and-f: elite track at Astrodome
>According to an Associated Press report Houston Olympic officials, hoping to >attract the 2012 games, plan to complete a total conversion of the Astrodome >into an elite track and field facility by 2007. > >So would the marks there be considered as indoor performances (if the Dome >makes it completely closed facility) despite the track being the standard >outdoor 400 meters per lap? Perhaps I'm just lacking in imagination, but I cannot conceive of how a 400 meter track could possibly fit inside the Astrodome. You wouldn't just be talking about a conversion, but practically building a whole new stadium. As it is, the dome only holds 50,000 (too small for Olympic desires, I'm guessing), and if memory serves, the stands were right up against the field. It would be perfect for an indoor track, but it seems to me you'd have to eliminate almost the entire lower section to fit a regulation outdoor oval in there. But maybe I just don't understand the overall architecture of the building. As to your original question: Wasn't the stadium in Montreal 1976 indoor? I think basic logic would dictate that any marks on a regulation 400m would be considered as no-wind outdoor marks. -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: Complete results of masters deca/hep
Y ask: Here are results of the 2002 national masters deca and hep held last weekend at Trenton, New Jersey: Deca results: http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/501d98/bc/Results/2002MenDeca.doc?BCTHiG9AO3cKl XkL Hep results: http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/501d98/bc/Results/2002WomenOutdooHept.doc?BCTHi G9AoZ5oQZTi Ken Stone (wishing I could finish 3 or 4 events in a day) http://www.masterstrack.com
t-and-f: elite track at Astrodome
According to an Associated Press report Houston Olympic officials, hoping to attract the 2012 games, plan to complete a total conversion of the Astrodome into an elite track and field facility by 2007. So would the marks there be considered as indoor performances (if the Dome makes it completely closed facility) despite the track being the standard outdoor 400 meters per lap?
Re: t-and-f: Now why didn't we see THIS in the media?
Beer is not allowed in stadium, sorry :)
t-and-f: Correction
Netters: Lest I have my head cut off, as someone has suggested, may I correct a mistake in the Still posting. Danielle Still is from Bishoip Eustace HS, not Paul VI, its next door neighbor. Ed Grant
t-and-f: Now why didn't we see THIS in the media?
I have a sportswriter friend who was at the infamous Cleveland Browns beer-bottle riot last season. He also was at USATF last weekend, and sent me this. Enjoy: > Man, did you hear what happened at USA nationals? I'm watching the >shot put, and John Godina had a really, really good attempt. Except the meet >official called it a foul. Real controversial. So then, the guy next to me >throws his beer on the field and I thought, "Wow.'' Then everyone started >throwing their beers. The meet officials and other shot putters had to run >off and duck beer bottles, and we all rioted for half an hour. > > Just kidding. He had me going for about half a second. -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: George Orton
Right on the colour of the medal, wrong on the citizenship. At least according to the following provided in response to the same posting to the Can list by Ian Reid. The paper has been duly notified. Regards, Martin http://www.athletics-heroes.net/athletics-heroes/stats_athletics/olympics/1900_m.htm Kurt Bray wrote: > >Canada did not send a team to the 1900 > >Paris Olympics, so he went with the U.S. squad; in the days before > >athletes competed for countries, he ran in the colours of the University > > > >of Pennsylvania; won gold medal in 2,500-metre steeplechase and silver > >in 400-metre hurdles." > > The lists I have showing him winning bronze in the 400m hurdles, not silver. > Also, on the same lists his nationality is shown as USA. Did he hold dual > citizenship, or was he somehow counted as an honorary American since he > showed up with the US team? > > Kurt Bray > > _ > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com
t-and-f: USATF Clarification: Olympic staff
The following are the titles and names of USATF-nominated staff members for the 2004 Olympic Team, track and field: Women's staff Head Coach: Sue Humphrey Head Manager: Stephanie Hightower Assistant Coach for sprints and hurdles: Curtis Frye Assistant Coach for jumps and multis: Craig Poole Assistant Coach for throws: Jeri Daniels-Elder Assistant Coach for middle distance: Beth Alford-Sullivan Assistant Coach for distance: Julia Emmons Men's staff Head Coach: George Williams Head Manager: Charlie Craig Assistant Coach for sprints and hurdles: Orin Richburg Assistant Coach for jumps and multis: Ralph Lindeman Assistant Coach for throws: Criss Somerlot Assistant Coach for middle distance: Vin Lananna Assistant Coach for distance: Bob Larsen # # #
Re: t-and-f: Todd Christensen wins national masters decathlon title
Major correction: Todd Christensen is NOT in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and it is seriously doubtful if he ever will be so enshrined. SGMW --- Reuben Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Former Raiders tight end Todd Christensen, a > member > of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, won the 45-49 > division of the masters decathlon championships over > the weekend at The College of New Jersey in > Lawrenceville with an age-graded 7006). > > His marks: > > 100: 12.24 > LJ: 18-11 1/4 > SP: 44-4 > HJ: 5-4 1/2 > 400: 59.39 > > 110HH (42): 16.92 > DI: 113-1 > PV: 11-9 3/4 > JAV: 146-9 > 1500: 6:37.86 > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
Re: t-and-f: George Orton
>Canada did not send a team to the 1900 >Paris Olympics, so he went with the U.S. squad; in the days before >athletes competed for countries, he ran in the colours of the University > >of Pennsylvania; won gold medal in 2,500-metre steeplechase and silver >in 400-metre hurdles." The lists I have showing him winning bronze in the 400m hurdles, not silver. Also, on the same lists his nationality is shown as USA. Did he hold dual citizenship, or was he somehow counted as an honorary American since he showed up with the US team? Kurt Bray _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: t-and-f: George Orton
Martin Dixon posted something about George W. Orton. Besides being the 1900 Olympic steeplechase gold medalist, Orton was the fastest Canadian miler of the 19th century (although I don't have his PR handy). Orton won several AAU mile championships. (See second URL below.) He also won one intercollegiate mile title apeice (IC4A, then the equivalent of today's NCAAs) from George Jarvis and John Cregan. Otherwise, both Jarvis and Cregan would have won four straight IC4A miles. (Cregan was one of the athletes who, two dozen years before the events in Chariots of Fire, refused to compete on Sunday at the 1900 Olympics. He skipped the 1500, his better distance, and subsequently took silver in the 800.) http://www.southam.com/nmc/ohcanada/snapshots/orton.html http://home.inforamp.net/~cshof/biograph/227.htm http://www.gbrathletics.com/nc/usa.htm http://www.gbrathletics.com/nc/ic4a.htm Another winner of multiple AAU miles, from the same era, was Alexander Grant. Orton, Grant, and another athlete founded a summer camp for youth in New Hampshire. Here are some more URLs on that, including two photos. http://www.camptecumseh.net/tecmain.htm http://www.camptecumseh.net/tour/tour02.htm http://www.camptecumseh.net/archives/t16a.htm Chris Kuykendall Austin, Texas USA
t-and-f: George Orton
Here is a "Died This Day" bit that was in the Globe today that I found interesting for a couple of reasons. I'm sure GH will be able to add some other personal reminiscences! Regards, Martin "George Orton, 1958 Athlete born Strathroy, Ont., Jan 10, 1873; won Canadian and American mile titles in 1892 and 1893; Canada did not send a team to the 1900 Paris Olympics, so he went with the U.S. squad; in the days before athletes competed for countries, he ran in the colours of the University of Pennsylvania; won gold medal in 2,500-metre steeplechase and silver in 400-metre hurdles."
