t-and-f: Re: NSIC
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t-and-f: Liévin results
nice site: results of this meet being updated constantly, including field-events, which is always a delight.
Re: t-and-f: Liévin results
well, you know the history of French labor: the website union probably went on strike. :-) gh From: Wilmar Kortleever [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 17:04:11 +0100 To: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Liévin results ghill schreef: nice site: results of this meet being updated constantly, including field-events, which is always a delight. Mmm. I love those sites too and I have been refreshing the result site all afternoon (European time). It does seem however that they stopped updating (at least partly) 30 minutes ago? Though this is possibly only in part: triple jump is up to date, but high jump isn't. Neither is pole vault - and there is no new running result since 16.35 (half an hour ago). Regards Wilmar
t-and-f: Gebs Record Still Safe
Lieven 2M Results: Ptn Competitor Nation Born Result 1 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 1974 8:06,61 2 Laban Rotich KEN 1969 8:28,25 3 Driss Maazouzi FRA 1969 8:28,26 4 Mohammed Amyn MAR 1977 8:28,28 5 Khoudir Aggoune ALG 8:29,75 6 Kevin Sullivan CAN 1974 8:30,08 7 Said Chebili FRA 1973 8:31,57 8 Irba Lakhal MAR 1975 8:44,90 Salah Hissou MAR 1972 DNF Graham Hood CAN 1972 DNF Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*
Re: t-and-f: Gebs Record Still Safe
What the heck was up with the second group (everyone but ElG)? Were they only in the race for the purpose of rabbiting late-race after getting lapped??? That's some pretty high quality athletes to be that far off the pace. Dan --- B. Kunnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 8:06,61 2Laban Rotich KEN8:28,25 3Driss Maazouzi FRA 8:28,26 4Mohammed Amyn MAR 8:28,28 5Khoudir Aggoune ALG 8:29,75 6Kevin Sullivan CAN 8:30,08 7Said Chebili FRA8:31,57 8Irba Lakhal MAR 8:44,90 Salah Hissou MARDNF Graham Hood CAN DNF = http://AbleDesign.com - Web Design Custom Programming http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy TF @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\/ ^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ (503)370-9969 phone/fax / / __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: t-and-f: Pseudo-techno-crap
What's funny about this post is that it would have been more effective if it would have stopped with point number 1. Instead, it started a bit of a discussion about starts which is clearly part of the list charter. And Ben managed to get back on to the list again... Regards, Martin P N Heidenstrom wrote: 1. This is a commercial advertisement and as such is expessely forbidden by this list charter. Mr Entine has sailed near the wind and been roundly condemned by many on this list (while Mr Scott Davis has clearly infringed and continues to get away with it.) But this is blatant touting for business - if members do nothing, raise no objection, the list can look forward to being swamped with what can only be described in that grisly expression, infomercials. 2. It's also pseudo-techno-crap. Reaction time has no correlation with a sprinter's final time - unless it is a negative one. When reaction-time systems began to be used in the early 90s the first artifact they showed up was two or three New Zealand 100m runners having easily the fastest RTs at world junior champs - and finishing last - while the US sprinters - who placed highest in the fields - typically had the slowest RTs. So much so that some coaches and bio-mechanics experts suggested this supported the old maxim, More haste, less speed and showed that control, not quick reacting, was the key to fast overall sprint times. Some sprinters were impressed enough with the comparisons as to slow down the early stages of their races in favour of control, and found their final times improved accordingly. Of course these were not controlled experiments, which would be necessary to prove any correlation or otherwise. But the athletes themselves were convinced enough to reject the sort of claims made in this advertising. The greatest sprinter of all time (in terms of records as well as world and Olympic titles) was Carl Lewis - consistently a far slower starter than his opponents. Did he worry about that failing (if it was a failing?). Has anyone ever speculated on what his times might have been had he worked on his start? Did his coaches complain loudly? Was he a great sprinter in spite of his slow start, or a great sprinter because of his slow start? We need answers. We don't need press releases - this list is not the press, anyway - certainly not badly-written spam put about by people whose only concern is to make a fast buck. PRESS RELEASE February 19, 2003 Just How FAST Is Your Start? -- offers athletes an opportunity to learn how quick they are out of the blocks. They announced they will devote approximately an hour to testing the reaction time of clinic participants! In making the announcement, Clinic Coordinator, Cedric Walker, said The sprint start makes or breaks the race, he said. How often have you seen athletes lose because they were left in the blocks? It's the first thing we look for when there is an unexpected result at the finish line. Over the shorter distances, especially indoors, getting out can mean the difference between first and second. After the initial demonstration, Norton and assistants will put as many sprint athletes through the system as possible producing a graph showing their reaction time. They'll be able to see the drive off of both legs and learn whether they're driving straight out with a single push or two, Norton continued. This one push or two is referred to as having one hump or two based on the graph drawn by the computer attached to the blocks. But does this data actually help an athlete produce the ideal fast start? Norton says it can. It can record and display an athlete's gun-to-motion times to an accuracy of 1/1000th of a second. He defines FAST as: * Fast initial reaction time. * Acceleration that is explosive. * Short time in contact with the blocks * Transitioning rapidly into running phase
t-and-f: Radcliffe Record
BBC is reporting that Paula ran 30:21 in San Juan today. She won by more than a minute over previous world record holder Leghzaoui. Ed Prytherch
Re: t-and-f: Radcliffe Record
Worlds Best 10K Puerto Rico2/23/03 Place Name City State Age Bib Sex Pace Time 1 RAMAALA , HENDRICK N/A N/A 31 1 M 4:33 28:16 2 MAIYO , LINUS ROYERSFORD PA 19 17 M 4:33 28:16 3 CHERUIYOT , ROBERT ITALY N/A 24 11 M 4:34 28:23 4 KARANJA , DAVID BARROWSTAR N/A 26 15 M 4:35 28:23 5 TERGAT , PAUL NAIROBI N/A 33 3 M 4:36 28:31 6 KOECH , GILBERT ROYERSFORD PA 22 8 M 4:36 28:34 7 YUDA , JOHN ARUSHA TAN 25 4 M 4:40 28:59 8 MUCHIRI , GABRIEL WESTCHESTER PA 25 19 M 4:42 29:11 9 KIRUI , PAUL ITALY N/A 22 9 M 4:42 29:13 10 KWAMBAI , JAMES ITALIA N/A 20 5 M 4:43 29:15 11 ITATI , JOHN ROYESFORD PA 29 6 M 4:45 29:29 12 LIMO , FELIX KENYA N/A 23 12 M 4:47 29:39 13 GWACO , JOHN KENYA N/A 25 13 M 4:50 29:59 14 KAMAU , MICHAEL TUCSON AR 24 14 M 4:50 30:02 15 COLLAZO COLON , LUIS UTUADO PR 30 22 M 4:52 30:10 16 RADCLIFFE , PAULA LOUGHBROUGH UK 29 2 F 4:53 30:21 17 MAXIMOV , DIMITRY KOSTROMA N/A 25 7 M 4:56 30:38 Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online
t-and-f: Pseudo-techno-crap
I'm glad to be able to post Mr Norton's email as he suggests. P N H == Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:26:50 -0500 From: Giles Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,x-ns1ZHJFQ0M9Nh4,x-ns2Vb60bt0F638,ko To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Pseudo-techno-crap Dear Mr. Heidenstrom, A couple of points in response to your post on the track list. http://www.mail-archive.com/t-and-f%40lists.uoregon.edu/msg21369.html I am unable to post to this list so perhaps you could post this on my behalf? I was totally unaware that a press release that I approved on behalf of Lynx System Developers, Inc. was going to be used for any other purpose than to help attract young athletes to a Sprint Clinic hosted by Carl Lewis. The intention of our participation in the clinic was to give coaches and athletes the chance to work with the same false-start detection technology that is currently being used at many IAAF meets, and to present them with a chance to make their own decisions as to the value of the data this technology can produce when it is integrated into a sprinter's training program. The fact that this Release made its way onto this forum is something over which I had no control and which took the information away from the context for which it was intended. I hope that this makes our position clear. I apologize if you or others viewed the posting as an 'infomercial.' Best regards, -- Giles. Giles Norton Director of Corporate Communication [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.finishlynx.com Lynx System Developers, Inc 1-800-989-5969 175N New Boston Street Fax: (781) 938-0580 WoburnMA 01801 Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.
