Re: t-and-f: IAAF is cautious on Charlie Francis statementagainst doping

2003-02-04 Thread Kurt Bray
Right, but which Charlie do you believe?  Charlie then or Charlie now?

What I'm saying is that IF (a very big if) Charlie has now seen the light 
thanks to watching Marion and Tim compete clean, then it is not unreasonable 
to conclude that the old Charlie was either untruthful or simply wrong, and 
that there were at least some clean runners at the top all the time.

Kurt Bray


or, *to play devil's advocate* (or, if you believe that part of Francis's
writings) Ben was the same caliber as those around him, and when they all
doped, the result was the same, but they just ran faster.


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 In other words,
 maybe Ben really was a no more than a second-tier sprinter who needed to 
use
 dope in order to beat clean athletes who were better than him.


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Re: t-and-f: IAAF is cautious on Charlie Francis statementagainst doping

2003-02-03 Thread ghill
or, *to play devil's advocate* (or, if you believe that part of Francis's
writings) Ben was the same caliber as those around him, and when they all
doped, the result was the same, but they just ran faster.


 From: Kurt Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 05:12:13 +
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 Subject: Re: t-and-f: IAAF is cautious on Charlie Francis statement against
 doping
 
 In other words, 
 maybe Ben really was a no more than a second-tier sprinter who needed to use
 dope in order to beat clean athletes who were better than him.