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While these two didn't go 1 and 11, the Pons twins(Chan and Corby) are my favorite NCAA brothers. Despite the fact that neither ever qualified for Kinney/Footlocker, they finished 18(Chan) and 29(Corby) in Bloomington in 1999. Chan did this while racing the last 5 miles with only one shoe. If he had kept both shoes on, I can say without doubt or further qualification that he would have finished in the top 10. Robbie Howell
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From: Robert J Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Robert J Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 07:50:40 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tf list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: NCAA brothers Resent-From: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-To: e. garry hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 07:38:59 -0800 While these two didn't go 1 and 11, the Pons twins(Chan and Corby) are my favorite NCAA brothers. Despite the fact that neither ever qualified for Kinney/Footlocker, they finished 18(Chan) and 29(Corby) in Bloomington in 1999. Chan did this while racing the last 5 miles with only one shoe. If he had kept both shoes on, I can say without doubt or further qualification that he would have finished in the top 10. Robbie Howell Hey, thanks for the addition: that now makes 7 sets of brothers I know of who have totalled fewer than 50 points in the same NCAA. If anybody finds any others, please let me know. gh
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:47:57 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NCAA brothers How about the Floras (Bob John), Ledyard (CT) H.S. and I think both went to Northeastern. I remember one of them having a great race when the NCAA was at Lehigh, I think the year Salazar and Rono duked it out. Jim Gerweck Running Times John finished 41-21-17 his last three years, but Bob never cracked top 50.
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Did the McChesney's ever have two brothers race at the same NC's? -Buck, the former Duck -Original Message- From: ghill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:07 AM To: track list Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: NCAA brothers From: Robert J Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Robert J Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 07:50:40 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tf list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: NCAA brothers Resent-From: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-To: e. garry hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 07:38:59 -0800 While these two didn't go 1 and 11, the Pons twins(Chan and Corby) are my favorite NCAA brothers. Despite the fact that neither ever qualified for Kinney/Footlocker, they finished 18(Chan) and 29(Corby) in Bloomington in 1999. Chan did this while racing the last 5 miles with only one shoe. If he had kept both shoes on, I can say without doubt or further qualification that he would have finished in the top 10. Robbie Howell Hey, thanks for the addition: that now makes 7 sets of brothers I know of who have totalled fewer than 50 points in the same NCAA. If anybody finds any others, please let me know. gh
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From: Jones, Carleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:02:25 -0700 To: 'ghill' [EMAIL PROTECTED], track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Re: NCAA brothers Did the McChesney's ever have two brothers race at the same NC's? -Buck, the former Duck Probably--they were one of the combos I was specifically on the lookout for. Surprised to see that Bill's record wasn't up to his track-time qualifications: 28thin '77, 43rd in '79, 44th in '81. None of the bros ever made top 50. gh
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What about the Donokowski (sp?) brothers at Michigan? ghill wrote: From: Jones, Carleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:02:25 -0700 To: 'ghill' [EMAIL PROTECTED], track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Re: NCAA brothers Did the McChesney's ever have two brothers race at the same NC's? -Buck, the former Duck Probably--they were one of the combos I was specifically on the lookout for. Surprised to see that Bill's record wasn't up to his track-time qualifications: 28thin '77, 43rd in '79, 44th in '81. None of the bros ever made top 50. gh -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarx™ 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated... - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)
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what about the Mastalirs? or the Plummers? (yes I know, sisters) At 09:12 AM 11/27/02 -0800, ghill wrote: From: Jones, Carleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:02:25 -0700 To: 'ghill' [EMAIL PROTECTED], track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Re: NCAA brothers Did the McChesney's ever have two brothers race at the same NC's? -Buck, the former Duck Probably--they were one of the combos I was specifically on the lookout for. Surprised to see that Bill's record wasn't up to his track-time qualifications: 28thin '77, 43rd in '79, 44th in '81. None of the bros ever made top 50. gh Keith Whitman Head Coach Cross Country/Track Field Muskingum College New Concord, Ohio http://www.muskingum.edu (740) 826-8018-Office (330) 677-4631-Home (740) 826-8300-Fax Galations 2:20
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Keith Whitman wrote: or the Plummers? (yes I know, sisters) How about Monica and Regina Joyce? bob
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From: Wayne T. Armbrust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Computomarx™ Reply-To: Wayne T. Armbrust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:49:34 -0600 To: track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: NCAA brothers What about the Donokowski (sp?) brothers at Michigan? Careers didn't overlap: Bill 23rd in '75 (consistent: 24th in '77, 25th in '76!); Gerard 7th in '82. And while researching that, found the Treacys, who also didn't overlap: John 2nd in '77, Ray 19th in '80. gh
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From: Keith Whitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:49:48 -0500 To: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED], track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: NCAA brothers what about the Mastalirs? Eric 51st in '89, no sign of Mark anywhere in the top 50. or the Plummers? (yes I know, sisters) I didn't do any women's research, not because of any antipathy towards that side of the sport, but because for me it was a fun historical project, startign in '38, but starting at '82 for the women just isn't history for me; that's recent news. Gh
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How about this year, the O'Neils from Yale, 2nd and 13th!! Dan Doherty Original Message: - From: Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:16:31 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: NCAA brothers Keith Whitman wrote: or the Plummers? (yes I know, sisters) How about Monica and Regina Joyce? bob mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
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Bill was in great shape in '81, I saw him tear up the Stanford golf course at Western Regionals, taking first. But alas, he was suffering from achilles troubles, was clearly in discomfort afterwards, and had the poor showing at NCAAS. Brian Brian McGuire - Original Message - From: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:12 AM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: NCAA brothers From: Jones, Carleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:02:25 -0700 To: 'ghill' [EMAIL PROTECTED], track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Re: NCAA brothers Did the McChesney's ever have two brothers race at the same NC's? -Buck, the former Duck Probably--they were one of the combos I was specifically on the lookout for. Surprised to see that Bill's record wasn't up to his track-time qualifications: 28thin '77, 43rd in '79, 44th in '81. None of the bros ever made top 50. gh
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How about the Mortimer brothers? And on the distaff side: Nenna and Shola Lynch? Kurt Bray _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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Also from NC State, Mary and Julie Shea. I don't know their best finishes, except that they were good. Ed Prytherch
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I'm not sure the years they matriculated, but I suspect it was in the AIAW years, before the NCAA took over. Like GH, that is so recent for me that it's not much of a history. Randy On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 20:09:37 -0500, you wrote: Also from NC State, Mary and Julie Shea. I don't know their best finishes, except that they were good. Ed Prytherch
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speaking of which, I forgot to cut Batliner from the ellipsed men in agate. Adam's been done for years; that's his bro. Popular question after yesterday is, are the Torreses the best bro combo in NCAA cross history?
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duh! Me not thinking. I only marked him as a member of one of the top 4 teams; virtually all the Eastern Michigan guys after Boaz and Thompson could get axed too if we went on name recognition. But it's been my understanding the last few years in NCAA XC agate that we wanted to list all runners for top 4 teams... or am I amiss on that? We care about listing only members of team winners?
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How about the O'Neil Twins from Yale in the Womens race, 2nd and 13th!! Dan Doherty - Original Message - From: Sieg Lindstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e. garry [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tf list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jon Hendershott [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dan Lilot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 2:50 PM Subject: t-and-f: Re: NCAA brothers speaking of which, I forgot to cut Batliner from the ellipsed men in agate. Adam's been done for years; that's his bro. Popular question after yesterday is, are the Torreses the best bro combo in NCAA cross history?
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Back in the late 60's or early 70's the Hoss brothers were doing some pretty decent running around New England. One (Peter?) ran for Umass and the other (Paul?) ran for Boston University. Anyone recall if they both made it to the NCAA X-Country finals? Larry New England Track [EMAIL PROTECTED]
